Manhattan Court of Appeals

Uh Oooh, Trump just shit his pants again.

Works for me, OP.

LOL! Dump is fucked.

They're going to bring back the electric chair, aren't they? 😂

LOOOOL!

Karma for the Central Park Five. It's possible he'll be locked up by the time we hit the tenth anniversary of the first "Lock her up!" chant, too.

Will Trump have to do the debate behind bars?

I hope they expedite this decision in the name of fair justice.

The Manhattan Five

Who’s grabbin’ whose stuff now, Don?

Pussy grabs back.

Works for me, R6.

The Klan with a Tan.

Here come the judges.

Op is a dumb shit. That pic is a single panel from a single appeal—assigned randomly. It is not the entire appellate division’s first dept. (which includes Manhattan), nor does it reflect which judges will hear Trump’s initial appeal.

There are 21 judges on the Appellate Division, 1st Department. About half are men. The photo was taken because it was the first time there was an all-Black panel. It might happen again, but probably not.

@r14, You're right, this court would be so much more sympathetic 😂

r14 & r15 Gurls, we know, it's just a humorous post. Dear Lord...

Dig that hole for yourself…

R16 that’s from the Second Dept., an entirely different division that does not include Manhattan.

R17

The Op knew nothing …like R16

Sorry—I don’t think it’s accurate to say “we know” who’s on the Appellate Division. I certainly didn’t know who was in that photo.

They just look like a group of nice women, who enjoy each other's company.

But I bet they are as tough as nails.

What is that on the forehead of the second judge from the left? Is that a birthmark?

Dump's standard tactic is to delay R7. Legal analysts all say he has filed over 4000 lawsuits in his lifetime and he always tries to delay and hold them up for as long as possible.

Yes, R23, every defendant tries to slow walk their own appeal…for the fun of it. 2nd least useful post on this thread, after Op.

There is no decision pending. Convicted felons don’t automatically get an appellate review. They have to file an appeal alleging an error of law or process by the judge. Trump will obviously come up with something, but I haven’t heard any suggestions that Merchan made any such mistakes.

R25. Appeal is by right, not by permission. They will file, and the appeal will be heard. SOP.

Having the right to appeal doesn’t make it automatic.

There is no appeal pending.

Let’s see what he comes up with.

It’s hilarious how many people on here act like they are attorneys and legal experts

The Supreme Court is going to reverse this, so I hope it's slooooowww walked for fear it'll precede the election.

Who’s dumber R27 or R29?

It's hilarious how the one lone Russian troll thinks he can sway a bunch of Gay people to think his way. I guess in Russia if you're too stupid to join the military they put you in entry-level troll farms

Many of us are attorneys.

R31 is the dumbest cunt here. She needs to take her antipsychotics.

@r30, The answer is r29... What do I win 🙂

1) For the Supreme Court to review a state court decision, there must be a substantial federal question involved, such as a violation of constitutional rights. Mere disagreement with the state court's interpretation of state law is generally not enough.

2) The Supreme Court will not review a state court decision if it is based on an "adequate and independent state ground". This means if the decision rests solely on state law grounds without implicating federal issues, the Court lacks jurisdiction

It would be helpful, after the fun of the photo, to remind ourselves that the appearance of a judge ought not to have any bearing on the fairness of a ruling on appeal.

It's a form of both-sidesism that we always need to be careful about. Because OP's photo also will be used by the Trumpian cunts to "prove" that New York courts can't deliver justice according to our judicial norms because blacks, etc.

This shit always plays both ways. As can be seen here after 33 posts.

I’m literally on The Supreme Court of Public Opinion

Nigged!!

Yes R32. But NY attorneys know that a criminal defendant may appeal by right, not by permission—and that’s a fact unchanged by requiring a notice to be filed within 30 days of sentencing. Yet the ill-informed DLers (with a little knowledge and no actual sense) will continue to claim there is no such right…wanna be pedants.

@r35, It's a joke, hon, lighten up

But just in case you don't understand jokes I'm here to help. Trump is a racist piece of shit who rapes and hates women. What a comical turn of events it would be if he got a court headed by all black women

Is any of this coming through yet?

R29 the briefs won’t hit the appellate division before Election Day. Any appeal for cert to the US Supreme Court is years away. Bless your heart.

R39 no—because your “joke” was lame. Not funny.

@r33, I know how to make you cum...

@r41, Wasn't my joke you fucking box of sand

Any of you white gays who think if a homophobic brown person assaults you, while you’re careening around NYC or anywhere in CA, that you will get a fair trial if you defend yourself, you’re sorely mistaken.

The brainwashing has moved past equality, equity = revenge. But keep pushing their agenda for them.

It doesn’t have to be—but you made the same assume post.

They’re calling the beautiful proud black Lady Judges, the Central Park Five

*assinine

Being R43

This is the ONLY court that counts. We know how it will rule. Sorry girls.

No R48 and any small chance would be years away

Re-read R34

That's a still from the 2004 Tyler Perry movie, "Madea: Here Come Da Judge!" featuring The Pointer Sisters.

Still not funny.

BAPs (Blacks After the President’s freedom)

@r47, you're just mad because you're stupid 🤪

That's Omarosa, Diamond, Silk, Candace and Kim K.

R29, SCOTUS can't interfere in State Court cases.

A whole lot of bigots—you all can fuck off.

R56 you too white-hating woke cunt.

Ahh, that’s more like it R57. Bring it on. Sunlight us the e best disinfectant to treat germs like you.

*is the best🌞

…for the worst, like you.

R58 same to you, cunt. Keep overplaying your hand.

And remember, Rethugs are States’ Rights freaks so they wouldn’t even consider intervening

Beautiful!

Rock, paper, scissors, Trump, Dobbs💥

The federal courts can take any state criminal case they want. They just need to find a Due Process claim under the 14th Amendment.

Here, they can claim that not 1) requiring the prosecution to specify and 2) the jury to be unanimous on what “unlawful means” were intended to be used in the conspiracy to influence the election was a violation of Trump’s rights to Due Process.

Although worded like crap, R64 wins the How This Will be Overturned on Appeal prize.

Thread started out fun.

^ Yeah, but that Russian shithead likes to poop on fun threads

@r64, and r65, That's really a convoluted stretch. Trump would need top notch lawyers to make that work. His legal team is a bunch of ambulance chasers. He won't live live long enough to see that happen. He also still has trials coming up he has to deal with. He hasn't the time, money or legal power to drag everything before the Supreme Court

He raised $40 million yesterday. Money is not an issue. He managed to get the Supreme Court to delay his Jan 6 trial. He had top lawyers for that. Time? He’s not writing the briefs himself.

I have confidence in the American people that he will not be an issue after Nov. 5th. His behavior since Jan. 6th has turned legions of voters off.

Remember, before then he was President/billionaire/genius/winner. But people who fell for his shtick in 2016 didn't in 2020, and he lost.

@r68, Just a reminder that yesterday Donald Trump became a convicted felon FOR THE REST OF HIS MISERABLE LIFE and nobody stopped that from happening

What does that gave to do with whether or not he will appeal?

Of course, if he wins his appeal, he will no longer be a convicted felon.

The Supreme Council will not give up their hard fought impartiality for this

^ Huh?

Megyn Kelly: How Trump Should Appeal the Guilty Verdict and Reach the Supreme Court, with Dershowitz and Geragos

Megyn Kelly and Dan Abrams debate Trump's guilty verdict | Dan Abrams Live

Megyn Kelly is a cunt.

^ I googled "cunt" and the first picture to pop up was Megyn Kelly cutting the cheese

Jesus Christ, what the fuck does she eat? Burn 🔥 that fucking stink dress!

You are all spinning your wheels. This has already been mapped out by experts, Trump will appeal several times and then he does have the right to go to the Supreme Court. FUCK. Technically, it could not happen until after the election to go through all the court process. However, I do not trust this conservative activist Supreme Court. It would not surprise me if they break all norms and protocol to jump in ahead of the election to safe Dump's ass. Just look at how long they are taking to decide presidential immunity.

He has the right to appeal to the Supreme Court, they can choose to find a federal issue and hear the appeal or not.

Judge Merchan can choose to impose a prison sentence or not, if imposed he can choose to delay the start pending appeal or let Trump appeal from jail or prison.

That judge is NOT going to put Trump in jail until all the appeal process is over. Even though every other person in America would in fact be awaiting their appeal behind bars, he's not going to do it. He will give some excuse about the safety of his court and those who work there. I mean, 10 violations of a gag order, still not even an hour in detention. Enough said.

I guarantee the prosecution will ask for jail time, and so will the guy who is supposed to evaluate Trump for that. The Judge will still override it I bet. Even though Trump shows no remorse.

[quote] He has the right to appeal to the Supreme Court, they can choose to find a federal issue and hear the appeal or not.

R80 By “they” do you mean Trump’s lawyers or the Supreme Court?

Trump’s lawyers can claim there is a federal issue, but the Supreme Court will only take the case if they agree that there is one.

But the Supreme court is corrupt, they will hear the "federal issue" argument and give Trump the win. Just claiming he was the president will be good enough for them as a federal issue.

R83 Thank you. So, it seems possible that Trump’s lawyers could come up with a potential Federal issue that might be weak, but it could still take the Supreme Court months to reject the appeal, including after the election.

It can’t (at least according to established law) be appealed to the Supreme Court until all NYS appeals are exhausted so theoretically it wouldn’t be appealed to them for some time.

The appeals could take years

Hmmmmm.

The Manhattan Court of Appeals will find NO grounds for Trump to appeal this case.

It is not a federal case the Supreme Court have no jurisdiction, and hopefully the make up of the court will be changing very soon if Mother Nature helps us out a bit.

Wrong, the Supreme Court can get involved just by decreeing it's a federal issues. They are corrupt, they will find an excuse to do so. That's a fact now, not my opinion. Who's going to stop them if you disagree with their activist approach to supporting Trump? Congress? NOPE. Good luck with that.

I wonder if it's common, in cases that don't involve violence, a man pushing 80 is put in jail?

I'm not trying to be contrarian (or Trumpian), I'm just curious.

Isn't Trump's CFO pushing 80? He just went back to jail for a second time. He had a clean record before all this. He was a boring old accountant basically.

R90 you’re an idiot.

You are so naive R93

This is not the Supreme Court of your father.

Either the DA’s office and/or the probation officer will recommend a short prison sentence (i.e. Rikers).

The judge, looking at history, will be inclined toward probation, as other similarly situated, albeit remorseful, felons have been sentenced. But tRump’s shown none. If left to his own devices he will continue to denigrate the courts and try to intimidate witnesses (who might be called in a retrial).

Were he in prison, candidate or not, his media contacts would be limited (as would conjugal his visits). No First Amendment or cruel and unusual issue.

My guess is the judge will sentence him to incarceration, and then allow him to serve it outside, as house arrest, so long as he doesn’t violate a continuing gag order regarding disparaging comments.

He’ll scream about “his Freedoms” and his “First Amendment Rights” (and he’ll - undoubtedly - violate the conditions of his lenient sentence); but the keys into prison will be in his mouth. The appellate court won’t undercut the judge’s effort to maintain the integrity of the judicial process.

R94 you don’t know what you’re saying. You are clearly ignorant of the basic rules of federal jurisdiction, much less appellate jurisdiction in general. Whatever your qualms about the state of the world, you couldn’t be more wrong here. Quit now.

R96 see R90.

There is a way for the Supreme Court to get involved, and they have already, at least 2 of them have been proven to be corrupt liars. They don't give 2 shit about how the court is supposed to work. They do what they want, including refusing to show up to congress or implement the same ethics that ALL other judges are supposed to abide by.

And two can do nothing by themselves.

[QUOTE] The five justices pictured in the post—Justice Bahaati Pitt-Burke, Justice Troy K. Webber, Presiding Justice Dianne T. Renwick, Justice Tanya R. Kennedy, and Justice Marsha D. Michael—are all members of the 21-person First Department Appellate Division. The photo was taken on February 24, 2024, after the five had been selected to hear arguments together in several civil cases, the first time an all-black bench had ever sat in the history of the First Department.

[QUOTE]While all five of these justices should be available to sit for an appeal to Trump’s guilty conviction, the actual five would be chosen from the department’s full roster of 21 justices. The First Department Appellate Division confirmed to The Dispatch Fact Check in a call that this selection process is random, meaning it’s impossible to determine which five justices would be assigned to Trump’s appeal in advance.

So there’s still a chance it could be them!

Tow corrupt judges can do a LOT R98. If you dont think so, just ask yourself why they are so resistant to sitting out their decision on all the Trump cases before the court. If those two were progressives, we would have totally different outcomes on things like Roe v Wade.

Tow-headed justices are the issue—amirite? 😵‍💫