That seems to be her proudest achievements. Why didn't she do more?
How come Streisand only directed 3 films?
by Anonymous | reply 97 | June 11, 2024 10:27 PM |
Studios saw those three and said “No fucking way.” Barbra may still be Heeba, Queen of the Long Island Passover Set, but Hollywood is trying to run a business.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 29, 2024 4:32 AM |
She was lazy and only really motivated by a handful of projects. She was never interested in directing for directing's sake.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 29, 2024 4:35 AM |
She’s a perfectionist and it takes her 15 years to see one from start to finish
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 29, 2024 4:35 AM |
Same thing with Jodie Foster. She wanted to direct so much but did very little of it.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 29, 2024 4:41 AM |
She was only okay as a director.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 29, 2024 4:48 AM |
Because she's awful.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 29, 2024 4:56 AM |
She wanted to do more but it didn't work out.
The Normal Heart
Skinny and Cat
Catherine the Great
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 29, 2024 4:58 AM |
[quote] Catherine the Great
One can only imagine the soaring Barbra ballad in the background as Catherine fucks her horse to death.
“Our Final Ride (Love theme from “Catherine the Great”)”
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 29, 2024 5:04 AM |
She’s preparing Gypsy for a 2027 release.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 29, 2024 5:06 AM |
Three imperishable masterpieces from the greatest American auteur!
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 29, 2024 5:10 AM |
She was offered the chance to direct many more films by the major studios, but she turned them down when they wouldn't let her also play the lead. For example, "Lara Croft: Tomb Raider."
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 29, 2024 5:19 AM |
She needs to do everything and can't get past her need to be the star.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 29, 2024 5:27 AM |
R4, Jodie only directed a few features, but she’s done a good bit of television. It’s something she seems to enjoy pursuing even when it doesn’t seem calculated to advance her career or her fame.
Try to imagine Barbra directing a prestige streaming series, and it’s impossible. But Jodie did that for House of Cards, Black Mirror and Orange is the New Black. I think that shows that while Foster might not be a workaholic, she’s not a dilettante as a director, either.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 29, 2024 5:33 AM |
Building the mall took up a lot of her time.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 29, 2024 5:36 AM |
[quote] Try to imagine Barbra directing a prestige streaming series, and it’s impossible.
Diane Keaton also directed some TV episodes, like for "China Beach" and "Twin Peaks."
But you're right, it's impossible imagining Streisand doing it.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 29, 2024 6:30 AM |
Didn't she say in her book that she's kind of lazy?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 29, 2024 7:08 AM |
By most accounts, she's NUTS.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 29, 2024 7:14 AM |
Cloning a pack of Cotons de Tuléar took up a lot of time.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 29, 2024 7:48 AM |
She didn’t get instant Oscars in the first 3 attempts and lost interest..
by Anonymous | reply 19 | May 29, 2024 8:22 AM |
I prayed really, really hard.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 29, 2024 9:03 AM |
[quote]Diane Keaton also directed some TV episodes, like for "China Beach" and "Twin Peaks."
Keaton also directed the documentary Heaven and the video for Belinda Carlyle's Heaven Is a Place on Earth.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 29, 2024 9:08 AM |
Does anyone watch the three films she made?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 29, 2024 9:19 AM |
Roz does. At least pretends to. Babs has to keep nudging her to make sure she's awake.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 29, 2024 3:29 PM |
Because Babs is terrified a lead actor will try to micro-manager her the way she did to other directors.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 29, 2024 5:23 PM |
Women have shitty work ethics, no accountability and a lack of direction
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 29, 2024 5:31 PM |
[quote] Does anyone watch the three films she made?
Repeatedly. Over and over. To the point of madness.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 29, 2024 7:11 PM |
She said she'd encountered an 'old boy's network' while filming, "The Prince Of Tides". So much different than the kum-ba-yah environment of Yentl. The toxic misogyny soured her on directing for years.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 29, 2024 7:57 PM |
She wanted to work from home but found it was impossible.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 29, 2024 7:58 PM |
because she was a raging cunt
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 29, 2024 7:59 PM |
Laziness.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 29, 2024 8:13 PM |
The real reason is she could never get financing for the projects she wanted to direct without putting up her own money.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 29, 2024 8:19 PM |
Because she's delusional.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 29, 2024 8:58 PM |
She says she regrets not doing more comedies when she was at her peak. I wonder what comedies she turned down.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 30, 2024 2:41 AM |
Prince of Tides was a convoluted mess that was somehow nominated for 7 Oscars.
As star, director and co-producer, Streisand shifts the book's focus from the Wingo past to the Tom-Susan love affair. This could have worked had Streisand directed herself better--if, indeed, she had directed herself at all. Instead of a performance, we get smirks, poses, campy shots that linger on her outrageously long manicured fingernails, and radiant, cloying smiles. Streisand's inadequacies, though, are more than compensated for by Nolte's compelling Tom. He brings conviction and depth to the role, treading a fine line between self-pity and self-respect and exposing his frailties with a rare sensitivity.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 30, 2024 2:52 AM |
[quote]I wonder what comedies she turned down.
ZERO. Barbra Streisand is a serious actress, remember?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 30, 2024 1:32 PM |
R34, she had to use the part of the story where her role is prominent because getting the film financed depended on her screen time. A Barbra Streisand love story sells, or so they thought.
Upon seeing The Prince of Tides again recently, I find her work - acting and directing - dull and perfunctory. Nick Nolte's performance, on the other hand, is hopelessly hammy. Streisand the director should have told him to being it down a few notches.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 30, 2024 5:46 PM |
[quote]Studios saw those three and said “No fucking way.” Barbra may still be Heeba, Queen of the Long Island Passover Set, but Hollywood is trying to run a business.
YENTL (1983) -- grossed $68 million on a $12 million budget (adjusted for inflation that's $211 million and $37 million, respectively)
plus 4 Oscar nominations: Supporting Actress, Production Design, Score, Song
PRINCE OF TIDES (1991) -- grossed $135 million on a $30 million budget (adjusted for inflation that's $306 million and $68 million, respectively)
plus 7 Oscar nominations: Picture, Actor, Supporting Actress, Adapted Screenplay, Production Design, Cinematography, Score
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 30, 2024 6:13 PM |
She realized she would never again get a script as brilliant and complex as THE MIRROR HAS TWO FACES.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 30, 2024 6:24 PM |
R39 Known by its original title, "A carrot stick and a haircut lands you Jeff Bridges!"
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 30, 2024 6:43 PM |
[quote]Barbra Streisand is a serious actress, remember?
She could be a funny girl when she wanted, r35.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 30, 2024 7:42 PM |
^ Not since 1972
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 30, 2024 7:46 PM |
Which is why, r43, she wishes she had done more comedies.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 30, 2024 7:49 PM |
Direct more films? That hack?
I got more talent in one of my farts than that broad has in her entire body.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 30, 2024 8:25 PM |
R44, Streisand is not funny. That’s why she wasn’t drawn to comedies once she had clout. Jesus, she didn’t even want to do What’s up Doc, and dislikes the film.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 30, 2024 8:49 PM |
Because women should not be directors.
- Dick Dreyfuss
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 30, 2024 8:54 PM |
She's very funny in Owl and the Pussycat, r46.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 30, 2024 9:15 PM |
She could have been a great director, had she gotten out of her own way. She gets great performances out of actors, but her vanity ruins her projects. She has always been her own worst enemy.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 30, 2024 9:35 PM |
Richard Dreyfuss may be available
by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 30, 2024 9:42 PM |
Need a source or link for the she “wishes” she had done more comedies. I only once heard her say something like “i should have done more comedies I suppose” to a question about why she hadn’t done more movies. That was a TV interview at least 30 years ago, haven’t heard it elsewhere.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 30, 2024 9:59 PM |
R48, dear, The Owl and the Pussycat came out in 1970. She hasn't BEEN FUNNY SINCE 1972.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 30, 2024 11:10 PM |
R52, dear, she was also amusing in Meet The Fockers. Now stop screeching.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 30, 2024 11:40 PM |
Too aggresive but she's more laid back now.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 30, 2024 11:54 PM |
She can be very funny. When she started out, she was considered a bit of a comic actress.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 30, 2024 11:58 PM |
R53, Meet the Fockers - best comedy of the 21st century!
by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 31, 2024 12:07 AM |
[quote]Try to imagine Barbra directing a prestige streaming series, and it’s impossible.
Yeah, well she did produce "Serving in Silence: The Margarethe Cammermeyer Story" and was Emmy nominated for Outstanding Made for Television Movie, and earning Emmys for Glenn Close Best Actress and Judy Davis Best Supporting.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 31, 2024 12:26 AM |
R56, no one was talking about the movie, they were talking about her performance. Do try to keep up.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | May 31, 2024 12:49 AM |
[quote]Didn't she say in her book that she's kind of lazy?
No not kinda, she says she's really lazy, but once she is actually working on a project, she's all in.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | May 31, 2024 12:52 AM |
R57 = Seth Rogen
by Anonymous | reply 61 | May 31, 2024 1:12 AM |
She tried to get a number of films made as director and the deals fell through for different reasons. It’s all in one of the latter chapters of her memoir. Actually her recollections and story are interesting in terms of how difficult it is to put together a company to make a film.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | May 31, 2024 1:19 AM |
I've always said it's because she feels disrespected by the Academy. Not once has she been recognized as a director in those three films - not even POT, which was nominated as best picture, but was one of those rare times when the director was not recognized. (In her book she calls it sexism).
I always believed she turned her back on Hollywood after they ignored her efforts for YENTL, which she worked on for 15 years to bring to the screen. In the past 40 years she only made 5 more movies ? Yet she continues to record new music nearly every year - because the Grammy voters continue to recognize her efforts with nominations every year.
As she said in an interview a few years ago " You go where you are nurtured." (Hollywood hasn't nurtured her - at all.)
by Anonymous | reply 63 | May 31, 2024 2:23 AM |
Oh please. Hollywood nurtured her fine. The problem has always been with her. Prince of Tides would have gotten her the acclaim had she stayed closer to the novel and not rearranged it to make it a star vehicle for her.. Mirror was nothing but a mindless exercise in vanity. Had she cast someone like Goldie Hawk it would have gotten better reviews. The critics lambasted her with those films because she gave them the ammo to.
Streisand is great for crying sexism when it pertains to her but conviently glosses over the fact that she’s been an utter shitbag to many of her female peers.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | May 31, 2024 2:35 AM |
I worked at Warner Bros/Columbia stidios when Funny Lady was filmed.
Babs was known to be a royal pain on set and micro-managing everything. Generally a pain to work with for everybody.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | May 31, 2024 3:01 AM |
Columbia stidios or Columbia Studios
by Anonymous | reply 66 | May 31, 2024 3:04 AM |
I read at one time she thought about directing Shadowlands and asked Sean Connery to star with her. But he said he had been in more films than her so why should he let her direct him.
Then when Richard Attenborough was directing she wanted the female lead but he went with Debra Winger instead.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | May 31, 2024 3:11 AM |
[quote] Then when Richard Attenborough was directing she wanted the female lead but he went with Debra Winger instead
Oooh, she must’ve been seething!
Tell me more.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | May 31, 2024 3:39 AM |
I've heard her say that she was interested in both Frankie and Johnny and The War of the Roses but couldn't get a meeting with Gary Marshall and Danny De Vito.
She'd have been a good choice for Frankie and Johnny. Michelle Pfeiffer got so much flack for being to beautiful for a role that was written for Kathy Bates.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | May 31, 2024 3:40 AM |
[quote] Michelle Pfeiffer got so much flack for being to beautiful for a role that was written for Kathy Bates.
Barbra would have faced the same, jealous criticism.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | May 31, 2024 3:46 AM |
[quote]Prince of Tides would have gotten her the acclaim had she stayed closer to the novel and not rearranged it to make it a star vehicle for her.
It was Oscar-nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | May 31, 2024 4:50 AM |
Michelle Pfeiffer got so much flack for being to beautiful for a role that was written for Kathy Bates.
She had a rotten personality.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | May 31, 2024 4:53 AM |
Love Barbra.
She's busy with Gypsy.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | May 31, 2024 6:04 AM |
But, sadly, no "Prince of Tides."
by Anonymous | reply 76 | June 1, 2024 4:25 AM |
Hate watch party at my place tomorrow night. I stopped at Gelson's to steal some snacks!
by Anonymous | reply 77 | June 1, 2024 5:03 AM |
I watched Prince of Tides for the first time last year. I never would have guessed that the origin of Nick Nolte's trauma was being raped by an escaped convict who burst into the home during dinner. The only way they could have made it more over the top is if he was raped by a clown. I couldn't take the movie seriously after that scene.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 1, 2024 7:10 AM |
Pat Conroy worked on the script with Baba and loved what she did with Prince of Tides.
Part of the problem is Barbara is very much of her time and is deep into wanting mid-century cultures of psychotherapy a d the like. Not much different than the Fondas working out their family issues in front of the world in On Golden Pond. It's not aging well and comes across as self-absorbed in isolation, but makes sense in the larger context of Boomers figuring out their shit in their 40's.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | June 1, 2024 7:19 AM |
Completely off topic but is On Golden Pond worth watching?
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 1, 2024 8:06 AM |
R80 I really enjoyed it. The acting is great and genuine. And you really feel like you spent the entire summer with them on the lake house,
Henry Fonda and Katharine Hepburn both won Lead Oscars and Jane Fonda was nominated for Supporting Actress.
Doug McKeon, who played the grandson, also deserved a Supporting nod, IMO.
It's free to watch on YouTube:
by Anonymous | reply 82 | June 1, 2024 8:24 AM |
Jane is at her most "earnest and sincere" in On Golden Pond which is hard to take but everyone else is great.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | June 1, 2024 10:16 AM |
R80, I liked not loved it in 1981. Could get through ten minutes of it in 2015.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 1, 2024 11:30 AM |
I think the thing about Barbra is she puts her elbows out in male spaces, but also areas of hard-earned expertise like directing and clothing/costume design. She has one of the world's most beautiful voices with a microscopic amount of training, so I can totally see why she thinks her successful approach to singing could work elsewhere. So here she is, sticking her nose in, and it pisses people off. I don't think there's anyone to blame here.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | June 1, 2024 11:42 AM |
Oh please, she's just a fucking cunt
by Anonymous | reply 86 | June 4, 2024 11:55 PM |
Barbra seems to make such a big production out of everything, she just couldn't do more films.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | June 5, 2024 12:12 AM |
She sucked
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 5, 2024 12:27 AM |
[Quote] Not once has she been recognized as a director in those three films - not even POT, which was nominated as best picture, but was one of those rare times when the director was not recognized. (In her book she calls it sexism).
R63 Barbra is hardly a lone example. Many films nominated for Best Picture including some that won Best Picture did not receive a nod for the director: Funny Girl, Hello Dolly, An unmarried Woman, Midnight Express, Jaws, Taxi Driver, Bound for Glory, The Sand Pebbles, Dr. Doolittle (1967), A Thousand Clowns, Airport, The Towering Inferno, Argo, Green Book, Driving Miss Daisy, Jerry Maguire, Anne of the Thousand Days, Apollo 13, A Touch of Class, Fanny, The Music Man, Mutiny on the Bounty (1962) Auntie Mame, Chocolat, Finding Neverland, Separate Tables, Sense and Sensibility, Anatomy of a Murder, The Alamo, Elmer Gantry, Ship of Fools, Sounder, Five Easy Pieces, The Lord of the Rings: Two Towers, Four Weddings and a Funeral, The Shawshank Redemption, As Good As It Gets, Rachel, Rachel, Field of Dreams, Atonement, The Color Purple, The Fugitive, Alfie, Nicholas and Alexandria, Cleopatra (1963) Lilies of the Field, How the West Was Won, The Russians are Coming . . .
by Anonymous | reply 89 | June 5, 2024 2:37 AM |
R78, I guess Deliverance didn't do it for you either. I thought that rape scene was a bit of a stretch.
The rapist in PoT could have been an escaped psychopathic pedophile.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | June 7, 2024 9:25 PM |
YENTL IS ON TCM RIGHT THIS MINUTE!
by Anonymous | reply 91 | June 7, 2024 9:48 PM |
Too much effort for that cunt-hope she and Martha are dead cunts soon-thanks
by Anonymous | reply 92 | June 8, 2024 1:31 AM |
^ DJT
by Anonymous | reply 93 | June 8, 2024 11:56 AM |
[Quote] I guess Deliverance didn't do it for you either. I thought that rape scene was a bit of a stretch.
It certainly was!
by Anonymous | reply 94 | June 11, 2024 5:00 AM |
I don’t think anyone considers her a great director. She’s too self-involved.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | June 11, 2024 5:17 AM |
She may be on the scale of very good directors in process. The problem is that the end product is mediocre.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | June 11, 2024 11:13 AM |
Hope she is a memory soon, just a memory.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | June 11, 2024 10:27 PM |