Family kicked off flight after pilot refuses to accommodate peanut allergy

Team Pilot.

The parents should be bitched slapped for spawning defective children.

Why do so many young people have peanut allergies--or do we just hear about it more often? When I was a kid in the 70s, I never heard about this.

Nor I growing up in the '60s.

Their flying would have created 1) extreme risk for the girl 2) very high liability risk for the airline.

Throw them off.

I don't know the correct solution for the girl. Will she / can she survive with medicine if there is a contamination? If not, she may be limited to travel by private car.

There's a treatment to reduce the severity of reaction called Palforzia. It's probably expensive. One reason we may not have seen so many peanut allergies years ago is that the recommendation to remove the allergens from the diet is fairly recent (and wrong). Turns out early exposure often helps prevent the allergy from developing.

12 going on 35. This gives me the creeps too.

It said they flew with easyJet the next day who were able to accommodate them just fine. Seems like the pilot was scared of a midair incident.

To be honest, I don't see why they can't just make planes nut free. It eliminates the risk for those who have life threatening allergies and I'm sure everyone else can live without a packet of peanuts or a Snickers bar for a few hours.

stop the world!

It's fine and easy for the airlines not to SERVE nuts. I believe the issue is gaining common agreement among all passengers that they may not consume their own nuts (so to speak). It's very difficult to get people all on board for any restriction, and also some passengers will be cunts or stupid.

I was on a plane where passengers in a certain area were asked not to eat nuts, Didn’t seem like a big deal.

I'm sorry, if you have an allergy eating commonly served foods and could possibly die if you do, DON'T EAT FOOD SERVED ON A FLIGHT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DIE IF YOU DON'T EAT FOR A FEW HOURS.

Just being in the vicinity of certain types of nut can trigger allergies in some people, but this is relatively rare.

Is it specifically peanuts or foods processed in factors in which peanuts are used? And what if she had a reaction?

I suspect the family wasn't so wonderful or victimized while innocent.

1. Psycho mommies aren’t feeding their kids certain foods when they’re young so no immunity

2. GMO is causing proteins to be higher and more reactive

Creepy family

Nuts to her.

I agree the whole serving nuts nuts just makes no sense. In my day we were not nuts and as a teenager I was treated like an adult on airlines even as a solo flying 17 yo.

The days of free cig packs that you could smoke on the plane, free booze even for a teenager and big comfy seats and air travel and life in general was not so bad.

Leaving Rome to Boston yesterday, a teen locked herself into a restroom and they delayed the flight on the tarmac because she couldn’t stop vomiting after the mom got her out.

Who the fuck boards a seven hour flight if they are that sick? Or know that they have that level of anxiety while flying?? (We found out later it was anxiety)

This is a Kardashain, “generation me” problem, expecting hundreds of people to kowtow to your needs.

R19 also the airlines have become Nazis about flight changes so these people push through with their plans to avoid hassle and end up causing hassles for everyone else

Are you kidding? The airlines can’t even get everyone to wear masks, turn off their phones or stop leaving bullets in their luggage! Now they will ban peanut snacks.

r8 not trying to be argumentative, but this just plays into the entire "me, me, only me" mentality. If one person has an issue, why should EVERYONE else have to pander to it? If you're boarding a flight, you accept the risk that someone may have a food item containing nuts, plan ahead (if there is some way to do so).

[quote] Why do so many young people have peanut allergies

R3 Because pregnant mothers were told by doctors that staying clear of allergens would lead to fewer allergies in babies. The opposite was the case - woopsie!

R6, yep, early introduction is basically inoculation.

Throw the whole "kid" out. Worthless.

It’s reasonable for the plane not to knowingly Serve nuts; but is the pilot really going to tell everyone who purchased their own food for a four hour flight not to eat it on the off chance it contains an allergen?

Meals passengers purchased at the airport may contain nut-based products (spreads, bagels with seeds, etc). The article mentions one kid who died in flight because she ate a baguette that they didn’t realize contained sesame seeds.

Parents of hyper sensitive children need to be armed with epi pen if they are going to fly.

Stop making your problem my problem.

The pilot had every right to throw them off. They created a disturbance.

Airline crews are accommodating for a whole host of needs.

Airlines cannot dictate what passengers bring on board for snacks.

Knowing their daughter has this allergy, the parents should have made arrangements well before they got to the airport.

Forgot to add...

The mother looks like Meghan Markle. Can you imagine if Princess Lilibet (Who the hell gives a child a nickname for a proper name?) has peanut allergies?

Meghan and her husband will accuse Camilla of sending bags of peanuts to her for birthday presents!

[quote] Meals passengers purchased at the airport may contain nut-based products (spreads, bagels with seeds, etc). The article mentions one kid who died in flight because she ate a baguette that they didn’t realize contained sesame seeds.

If my kid were that sensitive to ingredients I would make and pack all their food myself.

If your allergy is so severe that you don't even need to touch or eat the allergen in order to be severely affected, public transportation is not for you. There's simply no way to keep potential allergens out of everybody else's hands. It's not possible.

If the allergy is caused by ingestion or inhalation, don't eat or wear an industrial grade mask. If it is a contact allergy, wear a biohazard suit. Your kid's problem is your problem.

If the allergy was known and the parents didn’t have her meds with them then they’re to blame. The child shouldn’t leave the house w/o an Epi-Pen and injectable Benadryl and by the age of 12, should know how to use both.

R13- About 5 years ago there was a family in Queens. The mother was cooking a dish in the kitchen with peanuts 🥜 and the aroma/fumes from the peanuts wafted into the boy’s bedroom and killed him- I never knew anyone could be that sensitive to just the peanut aroma that it kills them.

Sorry you have a defective kid. Excuse me, stewardess, can I have another G&T?

Team Peanut here. She will not get an allergic reaction if people on the plane eat peanuts, anymore than I will get an allergic reaction from other people in a restaurant eating shellfish.

Have her take a seat in the toilet and remain there for the duration of the flight.

The little hussy is clearly not allergic to makeup!

The reason there are so many peanut allergies remains unknown, despite the experts here.

I had a friend who was allergic to peanuts - it was pretty rare, back then (he was an adult already when I met him). It was a severe allergy.

One theory is farming methods, or soil toxins.

When I was a kid there were peanut vendors in public parks, bags of peanuts sold at ball games, in bowls on bars, everywhere.

R36 Wrong.

I'm always amazed at the ignorance and intolerance of people just because they haven't personally experienced allergies. Are you stupid?

My next door neighbor's kid really is severely allergic to nuts. I witnessed him mistakenly eat a cookie with nuts, and his entire face, lips, etc. swelled to a freakish degree. It was alarming/fascinating, because I thought his mom always exaggerated it. It was very scary.

Meanwhile, now I want a Reese's peanut butter cup. Damn.

R40, see #3

There are reasons some people can't fly because of health issues. But they don't insist on making it other people's problem. They need to drive or take a boat. Do people insist on this on trains or buses? I haven't heard of one instance.

It's not the nuts it's the expectation that the world needs to cater to their allergies. If you are so allergic a molecule in your vicinity is going to kill you, stay home or wear a hazmat suit.

A story: man with service dog is in a waiting area. Woman sits down nearby and asks man to remove dog as she's allergic.he refuses as it's a service dog, she continues sitting. Is she really that allergic then or is she just using allergies to get everyone to do her bidding and cater to her?

R29, you are really invested in that topic. It doesn't belong here.

I thought the same about the mother, BonniePrinceCharlie r29 - the mother is very Markle-like.

I’m vegan and try to eat healthy - nuts are some of the main snacks I take on flights.

And now I’m supposed to not bring a bag of nuts or a sandwich with peanut butter onto the plane so a 12 year old stranger isn’t potentially exposed? wtf?.

Show me medical documentation that a vegan homo in his 40s eating almonds 3 rows ahead of her would result in some sort of catastrophic event.

I think this is an attention seeking stunt with the hopes of a payout or free flight. The parents need to worry about their 12 going on 30 daughter getting knocked up by 14, not having an allergic reaction.

R43 Argue with R34.

I don't understand the extreme entitlement here. Don't people THIS allergic carry an epi pen?

Sometimes you feel like a nut.

Funnily enough, I predict that girl will have a lot of nuts in her mouth in the future.

I have a nut allergy. But it is bizarre to request no one around you consume nuts. Just don't eat anything with nuts in it yourself and keep your Epipen handy.

Parents of kids with allergies this severe who are still alive at 12 always carry epi pens. They aren’t always enough. Which is why people that allergic don’t belong on planes. If they are so allergic that someone eating nuts a few seats away is an issue, then sitting in a seat that a toddler smeared peanut butter on yesterday is definitely going to kill them.

She's 12?

She obviously needs to live in a bubble. Or a full-body condom.

Do they still allow people to take dogs or cats with them, in those little carry-ons? What about those allergies?

This article was paywalled for me btw.

I wasn't aware that the epi pen isn't necessarily enough to prevent death. Thanks r55.

R34

That mother's an asshole. If one of your children has a peanut allergy, DON'T EVEN bring a fucking peanut in the house.

It's continually astonishing how stupid people are.

[Quote]This article was paywalled for me btw.

Oh, nuts!

You’re teyijf way too hard r29

R62 Nuts to you.

R61 We don't know the mother was aware the kid had an allergy.

BITPB

[Quote]teyijf

Are you okay, r63? Are you having an allergic reaction??

So this means I can't bust a nut in the lavatory?

Well, you know most flights that I've taken in the past few years I get some kind of cookies, or pretzels. They don't even serve nuts. Now maybe some passengers bring nuts for a snack, but the airlines don't serve them. I think airlines in general are sensitive to anything that could mess up a flight or put the airline at risk of a law suit.

I remember when airlines served full, delicious meals. Now you get a small, packaged snack and a can of soda.

"Delicious" is a stretch.

Do 12 yos get cheaper flights because I think they lied about that girls age.

She looks nothing like Meghan Markle? You guys are obsessed.

R71 When I was a kid in the '60s I had several delicious meals - including a great breakfast - on planes from the east coast to the west coast and back.

“Meal service was once a point of pride,” said Henry Harteveldt, who covers the travel industry for Atmosphere Research Group. Now, “the quality is so poor you have to wonder: Do airline executives actually have taste buds?”

r72 Wow so original

I even had a pretty decent breakfast once on an AA flight from Boston to San Francisco in 2002.

How does this girl navigate daily life if she's that fragile? Do the parents demand that her school be nut free? No one can have a PB&J? What about stores and restaurants? How did she even make it through the dangerous concourse stock full of peanuts to even get on the plane?

R77 I guess you don't know schools ban peanuts or tree nuts when there are allergic kids enrolled in the school.

As, R78, do allergists' offices. There are signs on the walls not to eat anything (not just peanuts), wear scent, or even bring the staff food or candy as a gift.

I take that to mean you don 't have to eat something to be allergic to it when in proximity.

[quote] GMO is causing proteins to be higher and more reactive

I don’t know why peanut allergies are so common now but it’s not, as R16 suggests, because peanuts are genetically modified. While there maybe be GMO peanuts being created in labs, no genetically modified peanut is being grown anywhere in the world for food production.

While I agree it’s not legal currently to ban people from bringing nuts on the plane, it’s absolutely possible. Lots of things are not allowed in planes which are ostensibly less dangerous and more common in our normal daily environment, like bottles of shampoo or mouthwash large enough for more than a single use.

The main problem here is that the parents apparently thought they could just show up and ask for this accommodation. You’d think they’d on ahead a bit better.

They obviously let this girl run wild because they allow her to walk around like a painted harlot before shes even in her teens.

r80 A few inaccuracies in your post, but I don't feel like listing/correcting them.

Remember the crazy ass mom who wanted the large oak tree removed from the schoolyard because her precious spawn had a nut allergy? We had a thread here. Another mom who wanted an entire stadium nut free for her little darling?

r82 I don't.

R79, an allergist’s office is not an airplane or a public space. That is a select clientele. Are you suggesting no candy or wearing deodorant on planes to protect the hypersensitive?

You'd think the "12 year old" would have succumbed years before because she and her parents obviously are all

NUTS.

Some kids need to be packed into a plastic bubble and fly steerage.

R80 Thank you, Helen Jorgenson.

They were going to Turkey. I am sure it is very allery safe and accommodating.

People who have allergies should never go anywhere.

The unfortunate truth is t hat people with allergies, serious allergies, have limits. There are things they can't do..

Fuck off with your all caps, extreme drama queen at r12.

Holy shit you're annoying as fuck.

I never heard of SunExpress before, but now I’m interesting in flying them if they boot people like this.

I never heard of peanut allergies when I was growing up in the 80s. None of the hudreds of kids I went to school with had one. When my nephew was in school in the 00s and 10s there were all kinds of food allergies among his classmates.

There is a solution.

The bigger question is why do they let their 12 year old daughter dress like a whore?

R91 who cares. The horrors of all caps. Don’t yell at me.

All caps [italic]is[/italic] considered "yelling," brainiac.

The mother's head looks totally photo-shopped.

Couldn't they have put the kids in cargo?

Even if the pilot told the other passengers to not eat peanuts, that doesn't mean they'd all listen to him. People are assholes. And there is nothing the pilot could do if they did eat peanuts. All the evidence would be gone!

I feel sorry for this family but you just can't rely on other people to care about your kids. I mean, republiqans care more about guns than they do about kids. Even their own kids.

That is a good question R95.

It's YOUR problem, not everyone else's problem, where a masked stupid arrogant cunts. Why do people feel they have the right to dictate other people's lives? Almost no one has a peanut allergy, you are the problem and it's a bit much to ask strangers to adapt to your very rare problem, I hope the bitch dies.

Some of the replies on here are wildly uninformed.

I worked for a guy whose daughter had a peanut allergy. If someone ate peanuts anywhere in her vicinity, she could go into shock.

R41 I actually have a lot of allergies, but I won't get a reaction of someone next to me is eating a peanut.

That's uncalled for, R102.

Apologies if this has been answered before:

Wouldn't a reaction so severe that it might cause death upon casual contact be considered a serious medical condition and not just Parent Protection Program issue? Wouldn't there be some form of documentation the child and/or parents could carry?

Also, if your child is that fragile, wouldn't you notify the airline in advance?

I'm allergic to pineapples. Nobody better be drinking a Pina Colada when I enter my bar.

[quote]Also, if your child is that fragile, wouldn't you notify the airline in advance?

The father says he tried, but there wasn't any way to do so on the website. The gate agent said to notify the crew once onboard. As far as I can tell, the only thing they did wrong was to raise a ruckus after the captain said they wouldn't make a general announcement.

I'm allergic to people who inconvenience complete strangers with their biological weaknesses.

[quote]I worked for a guy whose daughter had a peanut allergy. If someone ate peanuts anywhere in her vicinity, she could go into shock.

Then the airline was perfectly correct in throwing them off. The family can't have it both ways.

What I hate is that the family doesn't realize that it can't do everything that a regular family can do due to her allergies.

Take an almost 4 hour flight to Turkey for a holiday? Yep - we're gonna do it. We're gonna take the risk and just tell everyone on the plane not to eat nuts. Nevermind the people on the PRIOR flight who could have eaten nuts and there was residue left behind.

No - we DESERVE a sun-soaked holiday vacation to Turkey.

Telling people to not consumer nuts during the flight does not remove all the danger. Hell, they still serve warm nuts in first class on many flights - you going to tell people they can't eat those?

If your kid is so allergic it could die it should probably stay home and be homeschooled. You can't presume or expect every place you go to be allergen free and food is always problematic with unknown contagions.

Pregnant women need to start eating how our great grandmas ate when they were pregnant and ignore this "don't eat peanut butter" shit and feed toddlers little bits of everything.

Agree with R49. Seeking money and attention. Have the kid wear an industrial strength mask and gloves and keep them on the entire flight . No food or drink for you!!!!!!

I’m done with this bs

Nuts, indeed.

Well, too late to flush.

R114 already been done - how embarrassing for you

But we basically have to allow Jack 2000 to have an extra seat for his Cher doll.

on a plane recently that was delayed. Asked stewardess what was the delay. Someone had a nut allergy so they were taking all the food off the plane. it took ages and we almost missed our next flight. Surely u stress beforehand that there's to be no nuts. Who expects a plane full of people to bow down to their situation. And don't they make sure they have their eppie pen, in case of nut contact? What happens them on the tube, or a bus or a cinema..it must be like Russian roulette.

if you have an allergy that might take you out if you are in the presence of it, perhaps it's time to get in the bubble (boy).

From the link someone posted above:

[quote]Myth #3: Just being in the same room as peanuts is life threatening for my child.

[quote]Fact: Touching, smelling, or inhaling particles from peanuts rarely causes a severe reaction. It almost always requires ingestion to cause serious allergic complications. Since reactions are unpredictable, every allergic individual should maintain a food allergy action plan to help keep them safe.

Unless the peanut allergy kid is in direct contact with the evil nut, either eating it, snorting it up their nose, or rubbing it all over their body, it will not be a problem.

Where the fuck did peanut allergies come from? Nobody ever heard of this until about 15 or 20 years ago.

I would've pelted them with peanuts as they left!

“Don’t make me do it again!”

Not true, r122. I remember hearing about them when i was in high school...and that was the 80s.

I'm thinking she wouldn't be much comfort at a time like this.

[quote]R122: Where the fuck did peanut allergies come from? Nobody ever heard of this until about 15 or 20 years ago.

I heard of it in the early 1970s, but it wasn't common. From a historic standpoint, it has apparently occurred wherever there's been peanuts.

What happened twenty or so years ago was that pediatricians and dietary experts started advocating a waiting period of a few years before infants and toddlers were exposed to peanuts, thinking that lack of exposure would keep them from developing the allergy. Instead, this had the opposite effect, making the peanut allergy much more common. So there was an explosion in the instances of peanut allergies.

All things being equal, though, there will always be a certain 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑠𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑙 percentage of kids that are allergic to peanuts. But it's something that should be discovered about kids early, and infants/toddlers generally should not be shielded from all exposure to peanuts.

Despite its name, a peanut is not a nut; rather, it is a legume.

For 20 to 25% of children who exhibit the peanut allergy, 𝐢𝐭 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐛𝐞 𝐨𝐮𝐭𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐰𝐧.

Talk among yourselves!

Here's a topic: A peanut is neither a pea nor a nut. Discuss!

you are supposed to feed babies spoonfuls of peanut butter so they won't become allergic. When I was a kid in the 50s every kid ate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Peanuts are legumes and are in the same family as beans, lentils, and peas.

[quote] you are supposed to feed babies spoonfuls of peanut butter so they won't become allergic.

According to what? [italic]Baby and Child Care[/italic] by Dr. Josef Mengele?

[quote]R132: According to what? Baby and Child Care by Dr. Josef Mengele?

It happens to be the current medical consensus on how to prevent the development of the peanut allergy.

The more things kids are exposed to as children the less likely they will become allergic. I ate dirt all the time and ended up with a very strong immune system. My mom tried to get me sick with all the childhood diseases but to my great disappointment, I never got any of them and couldn't spend two weeks at home and not in school. I have barely ever gotten sick in my life and even to this day. I am 74. And only cataract surgery.

I understand that infants who are exposed to pets from birth rarely develop allergic reactions to most animals.

[quote]I ate dirt all the time

Someone who took Blanche's insult literally,.

Thank God dogs don't have peanut allergies.

Wasn't there a Cosby routine like that, talking about his father? "The man ate dirt, and was thankful to get it!"

I'm allergic to semen, so don't come on my face.

fun fact

the mother is a BBC weather presenter

Good Lord, the entitlement of the family in the article at r140!

[quote] we maybe fly once a year and have never had problems with other airlines

So why didn't you fly one of THOSE airlines???

Excuse me, but why are they endangering the life of their child?

R105 you are one on the fucking Mommy straight CUNTS I'm talking about, go suck a horse, this is not Mommy Fucking Central.

And we all know they will sue someone, probably fake allergy.

Worked for a sales group years ago & one of the other guys, son had a peanut allergy. My 1st day, he pulls me aside & asked if I could refrain from bringing peanuts or anything containing nuts into the office as he could become "contaminated" & take something home that could kill his son. He said even shaking someone's hand after they ate a peanut could be enough to kill his son...... He was a little crazy & left soon after I started. It's been 15 years & his son is married & doing well. I thought he'd be dead.......

Oiy! Peanuts. Bloody French bitch.

[quote] The father says he tried, but there wasn't any way to do so on the website

There rarely is, which is why he should have phoned them.

And now, a musical moment with Dean Martin.

As as soon as kids can start solid food they should be given a wide variety including peanut butter.

Low doses of Arsenic also help develop a good immune system.

When I was a kid if you forgot your lunch the school gave you free pb&js.

If that chick is 12, then I’m 136

r149=Mrs. Patsy Ramsey

When I was a President if you forgot your cunt the intern gave you free bjs.

The proper way to accommodate their worries (and get to be a total cunt in the process) would be to say, "We'll be happy to make an announcement. Unfortunately, there's no guarantee that people weren't eating peanuts on the previous flight and due to the SEVERITY of your daughter's allergy, we're not comfortable taking chances with her health. Let's go back to the gate where we can refund your tickets and help you find accommodations on another carrier."