Delusional Claims of Family Prominence

These people are on shaky ground now with the anti-white movement gaining full steam. Their days of security are limited.

Very specific. Tell us which cunty faggola you’re talking about…

We were practically the last white people in my neighborhood growing up.

R2 This is more than just one person I know which is why I made the thread. If it was just one person, I would continue to roll my eyes.

But it’s hilarious to me because no one knows who they are and no one knows who their family is. And if they did know, they’re dead.

R4 you sound upper middle class and white. We shall assume you are new money.

It's easier to verify the prominence among my Happy Few friends in Geneva and Paris. There will usually be a town or region with their name, and a chateau or two or three, and a lengthy wiki entry. I mean, if you don't already know the name, and you probably do.

First the location.

Then the family.

R1 whining about the "anti-white" movement sounds like a Republican who spews the replacement theory. Like 90% of billionaires are white. Stop whining, racists

I worked for an attorney who had delusions of grandeur and would refer to himself as coming from a “prominent Los Angeles” family. His parents were nobodies and he was important only in his own mind.

R9 that’s what I’m talking about! What do you think made him like that?

Would this qualify as 'genealogy nazi'?

The Americans who boast too much and too often of their own family connections are usually Mama's boys from the wrong branch of the Harrisons, the Rutledges, the Van Rensselaers or whoever. Their great, great aunt who took in sewing had a grandmother who married a ne'er do well distant cousin of the fourth generation of an already faded family name.

Or they are women once just wild enough to snag one of the few poor duPonts and keep the name and the old Volvo and a couple hundred thousand after the divorce.

I've known Vanderbilts who lived in very ordinary 2-bedroom condos and who had to watch their money, and direct descendents of very prominent and very rich people who figured prominently in local or national history who had nothing but history books and street names to show for it. Holding onto money and prominence or a name that has currency is a real trick, and usually doesn't involve boasting (for one thing, everyone else will do it for you.)

Well some of those old families at least might have passed down big cock genetics if not trust funds. One can expect size meat from the Van Rensselaer men. Biddles, Gores and Peabodys, too.

I have a delusional aunt like this. She claims we are related to one of the founding fathers and British nobility

[quote] Personally, I am related to historically significant individuals, including some of the founding fathers of the United States.

Every accusation is a confession, the DAR version.

Serving on boards of a few nonprofits, I have known some very self-interested underachievers who may draw some income through trusts and manage to hang on to some larger old homes, but just barely. I know a few who have (self) published books about their family lineage. These are some of the most tedious types.

Weirdly, still others with more impressive ancestries tend to stay quiet. They seem focused on making others comfortable around them and in “elite” settings. I prefer that type of notable.

[quote] I have a delusional aunt like this. She claims we are related to one of the founding fathers and British nobility

We have a DLer like this as well. See: OP.

Not only do I know them, OP, I know them in St. Louis.

Chouteau, Clark, Desloge.

Not 300, years, though. Maybe 250.

I know enough about genealogy to know it is common to be able to claim being related to someone famous or noteworthy. That is why I do not talk about my own famous relations outside the family.

[quote]That is why I do not talk about my own famous relations outside the family.

This is very big of you and we certainly do appreciate it.

R15 my point was I’m related to more prominent people on a national level and I would never bring it up. These people are bringing up how they’re related to only local people 75-100 years ago almost every conversation.

"my point was I’m related to more prominent people on a national level and I would never bring it up"

Um R21, I think you just did.

Is OP Anderson Cooper?

OP here back with an update. One friend has died and the other is at death’s door and in denial about their alcoholism and toxicity.

That just leads me to believe they were very insecure about their accomplishments in life and building themselves up from their alleged family members’ pedigree.

It’s sad really.

Living in your own Grey Gardens…..

R25 The other one who is left alive spends a lot of time in his garden as that’s all he has left. No friends, no family. Only delusions left.

I knew some queens like this back in Boston. The most absurd case, we all started calling him Little Edie and eventually he found out.

I have one friend who brags about how many millions his family has in stocks and in their bank accounts but then also hits me up to borrow money for food and cigarettes. He can’t afford a car either.

When you're tied to your Mother's apron, no one talks about castration....

It's a Tennessee Williams thing among gay white males of a certain age (but in no danger of dying off too soon.). Any comment on their roots looks not to the lackluster near past but to shinier, more illustrious, and more distant and more vaguely recollected relations...from a long and prominent line, having something to do with the foundations of the city, the first subscribers to build a public library, known for their charity and discerning taste.

They will embroider Mother's Lenox china into something passed lovingly down through the generations, as if that fussy little floral sprig crap were a great marker of quiet WASP money, carted over on the goddamned Mayflower. (Nevermind that the china company was only founded in1889).

They tart up disparate little gems of family lore hoping that their audience will connect them as a diamond necklace because, of course, the family was never one to talk about money. They just drop (too many) hints about trust funds and fortunes past hoping it gives them a little of the stonk of Old Money. It's odd, many don't care so much to make a convincing case, I think they just like talking as though they have done connection to Old Money or Old Manners or both, no matter how tattered or how long lost.

[quote]Personally, I am related to historically significant individuals, including some of the founding fathers of the United States.

Do you think you're royalty of some kind OP? What a vacuous moron you must be...

All hail peasants outstanding in their fields 🥔

The Joneses as the TOAST of Gary, Indiana! I could never move to Indianapolis.

OP sounds fat.

I remember being on a two-week cruise where everyone thought I was part of the XYZ family- after all, I have the not-very-common same last name as them. And then, finally, on the second to last night somebody decided to bring up the subject. They asked me what was my involvement with XYZ company (assuming I was), and you should have seen the looks on their faces when I told them as far as I knew, I didn't have any connection at all.

And, no, I didn't lead them on the first dozen days- I had no idea that such an assumption had been made.

I have a BMI of 27 so I guess I am, R34.

R1, what "anti-white" movement? America voted for a guy who lied about black immigrants eating people's pets

There are 35 million living Mayflower descendants. Yet people brag about this stuff like it is something unique or special

Pillars of the community!

OP, you seem very invested in this narrative.

Is this a regional thing? I live in the PNW and never encounter fake old money gays.

[quote] Is this a regional thing? I live in the PNW and never encounter fake old money gays.

There are some wealthy old families, though. Portland has the Corbetts and the Schnitzers.

Every city has them.

And then there is the question of 'how old does money have to be' in order to be "old money"? I remember discussing this with a UK friend who belonged to all the right clubs and had all the right initials after his name, and he said that since they only had been prominent since the mid 1800s they were very definitely not old money. He was in the middle of the Sunday Times Rich List and did his home repairs mostly himself.

[quote]R26 The other one who is left alive spends a lot of time in his garden as that’s all he has left. No friends, no family. Only delusions left.

Well, that sounds peaceful. At least he doesn’t have to go toil in a factory all day.

[quote]R30 They will embroider Mother's Lenox china into something passed lovingly down through the generations…

I want a thread on Mother’s Lenox China, where we discuss poor crockery choices.

Lenox PINE is not very inviting.

[quote]R42 Portland has the Corbetts and the Schnitzers.

Don’t get me started on those damn “snitcher” Schnitzers!

Come from fahhmers, both sides, for generations.

It's only going to get worse. I'm in fund-raising and I have to deal with self-important third generation types who have literally done nothing but inherit. They talk the lineage, self-important shit all the time, and you just have to endure. Scratch the surface and they are usually very sad types, prone to all kinds of ridiculous behaviors and abuses. So many drunks. They don't have any of the drive or smarts or perspective of their grandparents who actually made the fortune. And no concept of real work. I now primarily solicit new money types. However challenging, they at least have a sense of reality I can deal with. And oh year, burn down the country clubs.