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Drifter, 2024 German film about a young man exploring all the ways to be queer in Berlin's club scene

I looked for a thread here and didn't see it. An interesting "indie" film (with quick jump cuts, episodic narrative, expectations that the viewer can figure out the timeline and developments)... cute and capable lead actor (Lorenz Hochhuth) who moves to Berlin as a 22 year old still finding his way. He loses love, finds out how many men want him, explore hustling and drugs while maintaining a certain Gen Z authenticity and even integrity. Other characters show the facets of the various subcultures in Berlin: non-binary, EDM club scene, Dom/Submissive scenes. All with some empathy and courage. Erections, blow jobs, skullfucking, timid explorations and many, many drugs... but despite its explicit sex, did not at all seem pornographic. Well made and provides a non-judgmental, non-sentimental portrayal of young folks living very sexually-active lifestyles. Curious how DLers see it....

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by Anonymousreply 17May 26, 2024 6:41 PM

It's OK. The twink isn't as hot as all the characters go on about, but he's hung so there's that I guess.

by Anonymousreply 1May 26, 2024 4:13 PM

How many sex scenes and how graphic are they?

by Anonymousreply 2May 26, 2024 4:16 PM

A couple. Not graphic. Jonas is the pretty boy.

I am not OP but happen to have seen this recently.

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by Anonymousreply 3May 26, 2024 4:23 PM

Gustav Schmidt

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by Anonymousreply 4May 26, 2024 4:26 PM

R3 I guess we've different ideas of what is "graphic"... the film opens with the main characters erect uncut cock getting jerked off then blown by his boyfriend. A submissive med student is chained and skull-fucked and spat upon because he wants it. My interest was how explicit some of these scenes were but the focus was on the humans, that is how they experienced the sex, not on the act itself. I thought wat was unusual.

by Anonymousreply 5May 26, 2024 4:37 PM

Well first of all, that Jonas's cock. Which we see in low light for about 5 seconds. The med student scene - all the action is off camera and implied. I agree that the focus is on the humans and I stand by my view that the sex is not "graphic" if that means explicit.

by Anonymousreply 6May 26, 2024 4:46 PM

“Queer”? I’m not familiar. 🍸

by Anonymousreply 7May 26, 2024 4:46 PM

What is going to be hilarious is when the next generations of kids decide Queer, non-binary etc. are sooooo granny and move onto something more rebellious and leave these aquahairs in their dust. So sad.

by Anonymousreply 8May 26, 2024 4:48 PM

We saw different things, I guess. The fact that it was Jonas's boner means it wasn't explicit? The med student appeared to have cum on his lips after he was skull-fucked... but beauty is in the eye of the believer, I guess.

R8 I did think the "queer" not "gay" (although "you are gay" was a statement several times... one muscular Turkish (?) hustler did claim "I'm not gay but I like these dom/sub scenes" and the main characters quasi-attraction to women friends and non-binary cross-dressing friends... it all seemed to be a younger world where "gay/straight" melted into a queer miasma. It's this quality to the film that wouldn't set well with DL's eldergay sniff brigade. One reason I posted it here; art =windows into worlds we don't see, agree with, approve of.. but the art deepens our understanding.


by Anonymousreply 9May 26, 2024 4:54 PM

The more rebellious identities will be "postqueer normcore" in other words Heteronormativity & Cisnormativity

by Anonymousreply 10May 26, 2024 4:55 PM

Will I need a Silkwood shower after the movie is over?

by Anonymousreply 11May 26, 2024 4:55 PM

r8 It's not sad, it's just how generational change works. There was no "gay identity" as such even a century ago.

by Anonymousreply 12May 26, 2024 4:56 PM

R10 That perspective is generated by the young male, Joe Rogan-driven reaction against non-straight identities, isn't it? Could happen, but I think the 20% of those reactionary males are outweighed by the 80% females and non-stressed males. Now if the MAGA Reich gets power again LAWS cold determine that alternative sexualities (that would be all of us at DL) might be illegal and suppressed. Tying this back to the film, I thought the "decadent drugs and sex" subculture could be parallel to the Weimar Republic's decadence before the Nazi Reactionary suppressions (i.e. gassing and burning gay folk, there's that, eh?)

by Anonymousreply 13May 26, 2024 5:00 PM

I'm over 60 and nothing about the pictured Berlin milieux seems new, transgressive, surprising, delightful. Not much happens that couldn't have gone on in the Weimar Republic. I take issue with the claim it could challenge DL's oldster gays in flyoverstan. Oh please. My takeaway is that if the film is accurate, Berlin is stuck in rut of decidedly unfresh identities and cosplays. Which is, of course, very typical of German psychology.

by Anonymousreply 14May 26, 2024 5:04 PM

R14 - totally agree. And Germany also seems to the top country for the fetish scene - gay or straight.

Maybe it's all that 'order' and rules. Ordnung muss sein.

by Anonymousreply 15May 26, 2024 6:28 PM

I prefer Asian small gay movies because I am less familiar with the cultures. And the cultures are quite different from the west, so I find them more surprising. For Dom/sub try Sei no Gekiyaku (2020)

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by Anonymousreply 16May 26, 2024 6:40 PM

I wrote R14. But I'm not saying this is a bad movie. It's just OK, and with some local color can characters.

by Anonymousreply 17May 26, 2024 6:41 PM
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