More and more straight men are done with women by age 45

Link?

Such an informative thread, with so much detail and documentation of the research which gives us this fact.

The heading should have a sub-title: Horny Whores Rejoice

The sad sex lives of heterosexuals!!

Fascinating OP. What other gems do you have for us?

I’m happy!

Sure

More and more men can't get it up after 45, so there's that.

more cocks to suck

Source:

Lounge, Data (2024) "Mass Delusions of the Average DL Poster: A Review of the Literature," Journal of Internet Mental Disorders, Vol. 7, pp. 102-135.

I just had a conversation with a friend about this recently, and he fits this profile perfectly. He just said, why go through the hassle of dating when I can pretend a hot girls is sucking my cock. I kind of get it, but still want him to meet someone.

^ Yes, pretending what would never happen in real life is better.

Is it really a reasonable expectation to marry and have a fulfilling sex life until one of them dies? Who would assume such a thing, gay or straight? I'm sure it can happen, but I doubt that it is a realistic goal for marriage. I find it more realistic that at least one of them says 'Been there, done that.'. Then they stop having sex or look for new experiences somewhere. I know I sound jaded. But am I wrong?

But that's not what OP is saying, R13. He's implying that they're unilaterally done with all women, not "done with their wives and out chasing 17 year olds."

I think the reason is that more young and older women are done with men. Look at the 4B movement and "I choose the Bear."

A lot of straight women are done with men too. My sister just turned 60 and is done. All of the men she's dated have issues getting it up or keeping it up. She's gone through menopause and at this time in her life just wants to enjoy doing her own thing, travel, hang out with friends and not take care of some guy who "eats dinner at 4, watches Wheel of Fortune and wants to be in bed by 8". Her words.

I'm a 45yo gay man and feel the same way.

Straight men are forced to be done with women, because women are [italic]definitely[/italic] done with them.

You should hear the things straight women tell me...

R16 here. I'll also add that my sister said that the last time she had great sex was when she was in her mid 40s. Her more recent forays into dating included two guys refused to kiss, something she likes, refusal to perform oral sex though they'd walk up and try and shove a dick in her face. If the guy did perform oral, they sucked at it and many times she felt like she was being pawed by clumsy meat hooks. She thinks all the guys who are good in bed are in relationships because they aren't in the dating pool now.

R19, most straight men of all ages are like that. I’ve been hearing it from women for all of my adult life.

Yes, almost every straight woman I've ever discussed this with seems to agree that maybe 1 out of every 20 men even remotely knows what they're doing when it comes to oral sex. For centuries women were told their parts were just more difficult to operate than men's, but lesbian women don't seem to have the same issue reaching orgasm with their partners, so clearly, it's the low-effort straight men.

Straight men are cumming, gay men are cumming, lesbians are cumming, it's only straight women who seem to be left out. It's not hard to see who the problem is.

Or ANY SEX with a female, R21.

And the age they are done with them is dropping faster than ever. They are tired of paying for everything chasing them around in a self deprecating manor and then being expected to satisfy their hungry holes before fucking off on que. I’m seriously embarrassed for my straight male friends, even the married ones are often expected to follow orders closely while never even getting sex at all.

First off, fuck all of you for your incoming responses to what I’m about to say…

But militant feminism has ruined straight people with some residual to the LGB. Men, especially younger men, are lacking purpose, they’re going to be passed over for jobs that will instead go to women, unless it’s some intense physical labor position. They can’t provide to create a family, women have zero respect for them. Women are very unhappy too, a lot of young women are realizing this corporate hustle is bullshit. They’ll drink away their best years, make workplaces into drama factories, and end up alone or if they do marry, their shriveled eggs will produce a special needs baby.

The whole narrative of acting like every woman was being raped and beaten every second of the day before feminism and that every man was a cheating alcoholic is drummed up by a bunch of angry femnazis. Studies show that the rank of happiness is first: married women with children, then single moms, then last single childless women. We really ignore biology in the LGBTQIA123XYZ+ community for a crowd that was screaming “Believe the science!” during COVID. We’re trying to outrun Darwinism, but women are made to have children, men are made to protect the women and children. That’s the biological evolution. There is purpose for the gays and lesbians too, our biological purpose is to step in when there is lack in those roles in the family or community. We evolved now because we have too many people. Smart people are seeing the dwindling resources and have stopped breeding, idiots are still fucking like rabbits.

Rampant extreme sexuality and now transgenderism is a huge sign of an overly privileged society that is past its peak. We’re just soaking in the spoils of the past. If we have WWIII or other apocalypse type events or once the upcoming food shortages start you’ll see how fast the lazy privileged folks will switch gears. We’ll go back to patriarchy so fast your head will spin. It would be hilarious to encounter one of these Starbucks dweller radfems having to forage for food or just use a screwdriver with half of her, I mean zir’s aqua hair grown and her dishwasher roots showing.

These young people have no direction and purpose, which AI and robotics will only worsen. Creating content is not fulfilling for most people. The future is bleak.

I read a study years ago that said single women live longer than their married counterparts and married men live longer than single men. Makes me believe straight men expect a mommy their entire lives.

We’re dealing with the decadence which emerges in all wealthy empires at some point. The current iteration is the conflict of the capitalistic individual vs necessary collective sacrifices to survive and ensure a better future. The individual has shat on the collective for decades now.

Eventually there will be some huge event that will disrupt society, like the grid goes down for an extended period of time, people will lose their fucking minds. Everyone is addicted to dopamine hits from the phone all day, incapable of doing basic tasks that older generations were taught, it’s a recipe for disaster. Society is hanging on by a thread.

My (admittedly unscientific) observation - i.e., among straight female friends of mine - is that many straight women tolerate heaps of bs from their bfs, way more than what most gay men would put up with.

My closest female friend knows that her bf is a loser and a parasite. She’s been on the verge of breaking with him ten or fifteen times. But then she makes dumb excuses (he’s sweet, he gets me, blah blah blah).

In the meantime, she’s constantly on Tinder looking for guys who get hard, stay hard, show passion. Those she meets up with are almost always a one-and-done thing. She gets hurt and confused when they don’t continue texting, when they don’t offer the whole BFE.

I keep telling her, You’re not in a position to offer them what you’re asking of them. Lose the bf first then do what you want. The whole thing to me is ridiculous. She’s been functioning like this for at least five years. On some level she knows it’s ridiculous but I guess she cannot understand the meaning of Shit or get off the pot. I love her but it can be a frustrating friendship.

The older I get the less I understand how straight women operate.

And vice-versa, OP! Tired of their attempts to control, "give permission," avoid house care, criticize, and in general offer an annoying presence.

Most straight men are default misogynists .They love women's genitals. The human beings attached to the genitals...not so much.

R28, how old is she? My sister and other older women, who are smart, just finally said fuck 'em and buy a good vibrator, go out have fun with other women, enjoy living alone or with pets. Most are divorced with grown kids. My sister is an introvert, like me, and enjoys solitude. She finally realized after her last bf that she liked it when he left and the not great sex was not worth having a potato playing couch commando with her remote when he was there and wanting food and drink brought to him.

I'm sure that guy was divorced for a reason.

INCEL ALERT - R24

And a SMUG AUTODIDACT SELF-DELUDER ALERT - R24 - as well, R32.

The predatory dykes have arrived. You’re not getting that straight pussy no matter how much you make them hate men.

R32 ‘s father is allegedly a pedo rapist and wife beater

R24 fell off the #MGTOW train

[quote] The predatory dykes have arrived. You’re not getting that straight pussy no matter how much you make them hate men.

Look who's projecting. You're not getting that straight dick no matter how many beers you pour down their throat .

Somehow gay men avoid having such horrible relationships and sex lives with the men in their lives. We enjoy men. It's not a chore like apparently it is to fraus.

R37 I know. I wouldn’t want that bag of emotional issues anyway. Next.

Is there any scientific evidence, or just the illusions by OP?

“I don’t like when my husband masturbates, it offends me!” 🤡

The whole dynamic of the relationship is different, R38; gay men look at men as their equals while straight men look at women as their inferiors, particularly when they reach their 40s. Gay men put in the effort to make themselves attractive (as least the ones who want to have a relationship), engage in interesting hobbies and pastimes, take care of themselves, and realize that for a relationship to work you have to try. Straight men (as far as I can tell because I'm not one but I do know some), don't worry about their appearance, think watching football on TV is a hobby, leave skid marks in their undies, and think that it's all women's fault that they're not interested in them.

Aging straight women are like the Ejaculation Gestapo. It’s weird how they want to control men’s sexuality.

R42 the 1950s are over. Don’t act like modern women respect men and don’t treat them all like idiots.

…and have you seen women nowadays? They look like homeless crackheads with lip gloss and ratty ponytails. The ones who do their makeup like drag queens are even worse demons.

Stay at home moms with kids have no choice but to be "happy" because they're completely fucked if they have to leave.

R45 they should not have kids and just go to corporate happy hours and drag brunches and have secret lesbian affairs with diesel dykes for the rest of their lives

R35 = Same Incel

[quote]The predatory dykes have arrived

Same Incel - R24

This is why more and more bisexual women are choosing to date women. And they are the biggest part of the LGB population.

[quote] More and more straight men are done with women by age 45

Is it because they won’t do anal, and refuse to swallow.

Hey, R31. She’s in her late 30s. And you made another point that applies in her case. All her bf wants to do is get high and watch sports on tv. Only cleans/cooks/shops when begged.

I used to stress over this a lot… over how she gets taken advantage of and is wasting the prime of her life. She’s not defensive about any of this and is ok with me being honest with her. But we just have the same conversation again and again.

She’s an adult. Not that young. It’s up to her to live as she chooses. And up to me to just accept that. Not always easy.

Incel isn’t an insult. It’s like “racist”, you say it for everything and over and over and over and eventually it means nothing.

R49 right. "Bisexual women." And I love how you use the word choice. Sexual orientation is seemingly a choice for women but it sure isn't for men.

R44 = disgruntled husband who isn’t getting any

Guess who R52 is.

Homosexuals are done with homosexuals by age 45.

[quote]The older I get the less I understand how straight women operate.

Christ, R28 -- I've been trying to figure them out my entire life.

That said, I never knowingly dated or had sex with a straight or bi woman; it's waaaaaay too easy for them to leave you for a man.

[quote]Studies show that the rank of happiness is first: married women with children, then single moms, then last single childless women.

I don't believe that for a second. That ancient Ann Landers survey found that when women are free to be anonymous, a huge percentage of them admit they regret having children. And the now locked-down subreddit Regretful Parents was a real eyeopener.

I've never known a purposefully childfree woman who regretted her decision (infertile women who want but can't have kids are another matter). Choosing not to have kids shows that a woman has actually made a decision and taken steps (birth control) to achieve it. You can't tell me that a 40-year-old with money in the bank, friends, and no kids is less happy than a woman of the same age who's popped our four children and is dependent on her husband for survival.

Okay then.

True R58. Happiest are SINGLE WOMEN and MARRIED MEN. this shouldn’t be news. For all the men don’t want to be married horseshit, they actually do. Notice how men usually remarry quickly after divorce? And the idea that women are always desperately looking for a man to marry, equal horseshit.

Straight men must be schizophrenic to crave this yet loath it at the same time.

R38, Agree and add that the same thing could be said of lesbian couples. Imho, men and women should live in same sex groups and get together to have sex when she’s ovulating. Heterosexuality doesn’t seem satisfying to males or females.

Gay men and lesbians’ relationships are as drama filled and dysfunctional as any straight, maybe even more so; the current hetero climate is due solely to women having the ability to support themselves financially. It leaves many unlikeable and unattractive men behind and they are quite bitter about it if they are unable to get sex outside of a relationship and don’t have a network of friends and family.

Speak for yourself r63. Gay male couples don't have nearly the rate of divorce as straights or lesbians.

They don’t have even close to the rate of marriage either R64. What a ridiculous comparison. Gay men don’t enter into long-term relationships to nearly the same degree that straight people do either. But of the gay long-term relationships it’s as much of a shit show as any straight marriage.

R65 according to whom? You?

And who exactly made you some authority on gay relationships?

According to anyone with eyes and a brain R66. Which excludes you.

R53 = dumbass. I said they choose to date women, because believe it or not, bisexuals are attracted to both genders, so yeah, they can choose to avoid men altogether and only date women

[quote]straight men are done with women by age 45

most are slow learners

That’s an interesting one…

R69 fake bisexual bitches desperately craving attention

"Same-sex marriage is now legal in more than 30 countries and territories around the world, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis. In 24 of these places where detailed statistics are available, same-sex marriages in recent years have ranged from less than 1% to 3.4% of all marriages."

E72 Yes, fake bisexuals date women for years or even marry women for attention. Fuck, you are dumb.

^^^ R72

It’s easier to live with 100 men than 1 woman

R76 another favorite about what nosy, annoying, intrusive nags they are is…

“If a hotel had 100 rooms and 99 of those rooms were exclusively for women, but there was 1 just for men, the women would spend all their time beating down the door of that one room to see what the men were doing.”

R24 is such a drippy diseased dick.

This thread devolved quickly.

I beg to differ, R76.

Keep in mind that when I was in the Army, I lived in a barracks with 7 women and 250 men. And four of us women were lesbians.

Not a day went by that I didn't get grabbed or crudely propositioned by some of the most despicable men I've ever known: drug addicts, former pimps, thieves, you name it. Those were the days (late 70s) when a judge would say, "You can go to jail or you can go into the Army." Guess where they went?

But yeah, R76 -- it's easier to live with 100 men than 1 woman. Sure it is.

R76 and R77= effeminate queens who don’t know straight men at all.

Interesting R80. Because getting groped and propositioned by a bunch of straight men is a dream to most gays and yet as a lesbian, your worst nightmare.

“She wouldn’t be lesbian if she got me!”

Based on these vicious posts, baffled how any of us are here.

Sex is easy waiting for a woman to get ready is hard.

R78 bitch get the fuck out of here. Where do you think you are? L Chat?

The straight oral sex refusal phenomenon is a two-way street! There are men who have never performed the act at all. The life of the heterosexual is sick and boring life etc.

Men need women less than women need men. Screw those bitches. Let them create their own society.

Humanity needs women more than men, let’s get real. Fertile women are a precious and necessary resource—sperm is cheap and easy. It’s also quite clear men want women more than women want men. Quite a few Reddit threads where men openly admit it. They may be turning to poor countries for prettier younger women but they are certainly not done with them .

OP is making things up and fantasizing about straight men going gay. Nothing new on DL.

Many women have achieved financial independence in the last couple of generations and a man can’t just buy one from her father like in the good old days. It’s going to to take a long time for men to realize they might have to shape up and offer a decent personality in order to catch a woman, now. Mostly they seemed very aggrieved that whore/maids can’t be bought in the West anymore

Ummm yeah R89. I would love to see a society where women are the construction workers, they're lifting huge, heavy things, they're the engineers, cops, soldiers.

Yeah, get back to back me when that happens.

Women are more likely to be attracted to bon bons and the couch than any real work. That’s what men are for.

I’d love to see a society where men keep humanity going R91. Oh wait, they can’t. Even gay men need women.

R92 but not gay men. This much we know.

R93 what are you even doing here? You're obviously a lost frau

R93 oh yeah? And how are women going to keep humanity going without men?

Oh wait! You can't! Not even dykes.

It’s almost as if men and women can’t live without each other huh genius R96? Because without women there’d be no one to birth humanity and the human population would die. Which is why western countries are scrambling about the dying birth rate.

R95 enlightening the painfully stupid gays who think some gay troll speaks for straight men. Straight men are not, and will never be, done with women. These discussions have been had ad nauseum outside gay forums and men admit that they need and desire and want women to a much much higher degree than women.

Hey CUNT R97. You got a problem with gay men?

The homophobia just pours right off of you.

Consider yourself warned.

No twat R98, I have a problem with stupid gay men who try to make inaccurate sweeping statements with nothing but wishful thinking to back it up. Luckily most gay men aren’t stupid like you and the OP.

Lonely straight guys with boners are in your area! You just need the tools to draw them out of hiding and you’ll have a chance sure you will!

I suggest a bible and a meth pipe!

R100 cunts with huge gaping vaginas are free too! Just look at R99

[quote]Men need women less than women need men.

Older straight men were not taught how to take care of themselves. They’re always trying to get women to move in with them, even if they have to resort to marriage.

It seems like a lot of women have caught on to these late-in-life Romeos. They say the men are looking for a nurse with a purse; someone to do housework, keep them clean and healthy, and contribute to his finances.

Nobody wants these crusty, musty, dusty charity cases, OP. Just pay for the rent boys. It’s nicer for you and puts money back into the economy!

R102, why not take it to a group of elderly straight men?

Per usual, women feel entitled to pick the low-hanging gay fruit.

most straight men are done trying to appeal to women physically well before 45

If a straight man hasn’t eaten pussy, and you have at some point as a now gay man, isn’t it his fodder to be thrown back? I mean how can you like women, and not be able to eat one? If a gay man won’t go down, he might not be able to score much at all long term. Unless he pays me really well…

R80 Why was the percentage of lesbians so high?

R88 "Men need women less than women need men."

This just might be the single dumbest thing that was ever written on this board.

Sounds good to me. We antinatalists take a win wherever we can get it. NOTHING is worth causing more human suffering via birth. ✊

The "retiring from sex" thread is a good companion to this one.

For straight women too, R82.

R98, that warning crap will get you tagged here. Best to take your insecurity elsewhere.

Boris and Svetlana are giggling into their vodka rations today

R80 an aging diesel dyke giving us anecdotes from 5 decades and a few generations ago. We’re talking about now, not the Nixon administration.

R42- Bears 🐻 don’t make an effort to look attractive.

I'd say men need women more. Women are far more independent these days. As stated above men in the past were raised not knowing basic household chores and women had limited choices except marriage. I know one woman, whose mother died young in childbirth, and her father basically remarried immediately just to have a nanny/housekeeper. He didn't know where his socks were because his wife laid his clothes out every morning and drew his bath water. I have similar stories in my own family. Sure these are a older people but I still think younger men expect it too, to a degree. Look at the magat push for "trad" wives and the creeps who bring in mail order brides.

There are still girls out there whose only dream is to get married and make babies from a young age.

R115 you know what is also creepy are women who are lazy cunts and use men as their ATM slaves

Hence my comment at R116, R117.

R116 = Harrison Butker

R116 that is, in fact, most of the young women in the world. These American bitches think everyone is like them when it fact nobody is

[quote]a self deprecating manor

Oh, dear!

[quote] Which is why western countries are scrambling about the dying birth rate.

Which is ridiculous because the birth rates are waaaaay to high. We need less babies being born.

R122 too high of certain demographics

That's why I kind of laugh when I see the threads here fantasizing about straight men. Most of them are kind of piggish and it gets worse with age. They don't always have the best hygiene and their bathroom habits are gross. I know a few widows and they said they loved their husbands (they had married them when they were young) but they don't want to deal with a man again.

A lot of married men take their wives for granted. My dad was actually a good husband and father but sometimes my Mom would say "treat my like you do your friends". Once you are married most men don't feel like they have to be sociable with their wives.

R125 in the past it was better because men and women mostly maintained separate social lives. Now younger couples are together 24/7, of course you get tired of each other.

My mom kept the house up and was a good wife and mother, but she gabbed on the phone a lot during the day. I always thought being a stay at home mother would be a good gig. I need a sugar daddy. ;)

why did everyone get mad at that striked out poster, he was right about every word. you old marys actually have the gall to think you remotely understand the life of young straight men today? you can't even download a jpeg!

The ladies just get two dogs and a vibrator. Uhh that sounds nasty.

[quote] you old marys actually have the gall to think you remotely understand the life of young straight men today?

Oh no, don't hit me where it hurts! My powers of understanding straight men!

I quit women at age twenty

I quit women in utero.

Hopefully this pullback from the breeders of each sex will ripple through their respective cohorts all the way to the back edges, resulting in more total antinatalist misanthropes. Hikikomori/NEETS may be an unattractive group, but it's valuable work to help slow down consumerism. We have way too many people, but there's hope. If capitalists keep doing their part to make life a living hell for young people and neo-puritans can keep erecting walls around sex, we can definitely start reducing globally before 2100! 👍

This is unfortunate. I can theoretically relate as i will be in this situation in 18 hears.

R96 yes we can keep it going without men. It turns out women have sperm in their bones which can be extracted to fertilize an egg.

Women maybe could keep going without men and they would get the world they deserve. Id like to see it.

R130 i'm not trying to hurt you or pop off i'm just confused by why everyone lashed out at that guy. it's just banter.

R133 yeah we need to maximize the number of future mass shooters

I doubt this statistic is true, OP. It's more like, more and more straight men are done with their first wife or bored with marriage, at 45-- and probably so are their wives. 45 y.o. straight men who are either single or playing the field behind their wife or gf's back, are dating probably around 10-15 if not 20 years younger than they are. Why? Because they want someone who looks at them like they have they answer, that they know what they are doing. Women their own age know that no one has the answer. We all fake it till we make it. Men (or women), relationships, are not the answer to your problems. They can be nice, they can be fulfilling, and they also cannot be. At 45 you start getting disillusioned. Straight, gay bi or whatever.

I wonder if gay men, choosing to not be monogamous, helps their relationships last..and if sex does stop after 45 with each other, or one partner is way less interested, it helps the rest of the relationship to keep moving happily along. Straight men dont get the sex they want, need..and that must affect then. Straiht women are led by society to dump a cheating guy..wheras she might be happy hes getting it elsewhere and leaving her alone. I read an articlr that said the gay divorce figures in the UK were mostly due to lesbian divorces. I wonder if it's because women will separate over the smallest of dalliances..like straight women are told to do.

Some straight men get it more often. The church people sometimes encourage at least the southern ladies to provide service as a way to preserve marital accord etc.

You lost me after “More and more straight men,” OP. :(

[quote]wheras she might be happy hes getting it elsewhere and leaving her alone

Sounds good...but don't discount the STD's these slob guys bring home. If straight men learned how to please their wives, they'd get plenty of sex.

Oh God r135. Only men have sperm in a boner. I think you're alluding to parthenogenic reproduction? You should really leave these things to better informed people, or people who can write a basic joke.

R140=gay man who knows nothing of straight guys. No one will dump someone faster than a straight man who finds out his woman is cheating. Monogamy is expected of straight women, not straight men.

This is one of the reasons so many bisexual men choose women over men. They could not handle their partners getting sex outside their relationship, they expect total fidelity and they simply won’t get that with another man. Women are easier to dominate.

Most young women would find them old, that's why.

[quote] I read an articlr that said the gay divorce figures in the UK were mostly due to lesbian divorces. I wonder if it's because women will separate over the smallest of dalliances..like straight women are told to do.

R140 that's because women are emotional vampires and neverending melodrama