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I don't think the other members of the What's My Line panel liked Dorothy Kilgallen, Part 6

It might actually be needed!

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by Anonymousreply 278June 13, 2024 2:56 AM

Previous thread.

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by Anonymousreply 1May 15, 2024 9:25 PM

A tad premature, OP.

by Anonymousreply 2May 15, 2024 11:22 PM

Only slightly premature, R2. You never know when something like a newly discovered Arlene Francis tinsel ad will cause traffic on these threads to increase dramatically.

by Anonymousreply 3May 17, 2024 2:32 AM

Arlene in the style of Lempicka...

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by Anonymousreply 4May 17, 2024 2:48 AM

Arlene interviews a 27 year old Jacqueline Kennedy.

Listen to the dueling posh accents. Hear Arlene gasp: "There's a Caah!" at 4:45.

Jackie picks up laundry. Buys vegetables. Typical Jackie things.

She's so dull she seems mildly retarded but Arlene keeps things moving. Total pro.

Jack stops by and looks good.

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by Anonymousreply 5May 17, 2024 3:08 AM

I can't believe we're all still here together!

by Anonymousreply 6May 17, 2024 3:13 AM

Did Arlene ever comment on her diamond heart pendant on WML? I'm surprised whoever designed it didn't make an appearance as a contestant.

by Anonymousreply 7May 17, 2024 3:14 AM

Eldergay mental health warning alert:

I accidentally started reading the previous thread again, and it took an alarmingly long time before I realized I had read those posts before!

by Anonymousreply 8May 17, 2024 3:16 AM

Martin gave it to her, r7. It was later stolen.

by Anonymousreply 9May 17, 2024 3:16 AM

I know all that, r9, but I wondered if Arlene ever spoke of it publicly, especially on WML. Not about it being stolen but about what it meant o her, if it was given for a special occasion, etc.

by Anonymousreply 10May 17, 2024 3:20 AM

Keely Smith.

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by Anonymousreply 11May 17, 2024 4:39 AM

Father Joseph was a cool cat.

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by Anonymousreply 12May 17, 2024 4:51 AM

Wasn't a duplicate of Arlene's heart necklace available in stores at one point?

by Anonymousreply 13May 17, 2024 6:48 AM

R13, yes. My mother had one. It was a gift from my father on their 15th anniversary in 1961. She wore until the day she died.

by Anonymousreply 14May 17, 2024 7:55 AM

^^^ wore IT until ...

by Anonymousreply 15May 17, 2024 7:55 AM

After hearing the heart-breaking story of Arlene's mugging, designer Jose Hess created a similar heart necklace. This new necklace was presented to Arlene Francis at a surprise luncheon she attended.

by Anonymousreply 16May 17, 2024 8:21 AM

Neil Simon's apartment at Arlene's building, the Ritz on 57th and Park, was on the market 5 years ago:

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by Anonymousreply 17May 17, 2024 12:26 PM

R5 It's seems inappropriate for Arlene to be so familiar to just call her "Jackie"

by Anonymousreply 18May 17, 2024 2:34 PM

Roxanne from BEAT THE CLOCK, mentioned in the previous thread also played the stripper Electra in the movie version of GYPSY.

by Anonymousreply 19May 17, 2024 5:31 PM

Cornelia Otis Skinner.

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by Anonymousreply 20May 17, 2024 5:34 PM

[quote]It's seems inappropriate for Arlene to be so familiar to just call her "Jackie"

She was still just Jackie back then. She hadn't yet become JACKIE!

by Anonymousreply 21May 17, 2024 5:57 PM

Arlene's outfit at R5 is rather dowdy. I guess that's because it was a daytime program for housewives.

by Anonymousreply 22May 17, 2024 6:21 PM

Miss Roxanne *Arlen* would like a few words with you, r19.

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by Anonymousreply 23May 17, 2024 6:25 PM

R21, true, but she was still a senator's wife and, as far as I know, not personal friends. In those days, people who didn't know each other well were still "Mrs xxx" and "Mr. xxx", let alone "Sen. xxx".

If they had met privately and socially, I'll bet Arlene would have called her Mrs. Kennedy, which I suspect Jackie would have been more comfortable with. Her TV show may have been trying to create a homier, we're-all-friends-here atmosphere and thus gone straight to first names. Arlene is more than 20 years older than Jackie, so Jackie would have deferred to her usage anyway.

Speaking of names, I wonder if Arlene preferred to be Mrs. Gabel in non-work, social settings. Many married professional women used their husband's surnames socially.

by Anonymousreply 24May 17, 2024 6:38 PM

^^^ "husbands' " not "husband's". They didn't all share the same husband!

by Anonymousreply 25May 17, 2024 6:40 PM

The Italian bike racer after Cornelia is a cutie.

by Anonymousreply 26May 18, 2024 1:00 AM

r11 episode was fun!

Nice to see both ladies stand for the good Father Joseph upon his exit.

Keely Smith had such a distinctive hairdo. I thought I'd remembered it as a classic Louise Brooks bob but it really had quite a 1950s twist what with those spit curls and rat-chewed bangs (is that what they were called?).

The sausage maker 4th guest was an adorable nerd hottie. Wish they'd been able to spend a little more time with him.

Always love seeing Alan King on the panel. I've crushed on him for forever as he reminded me of my childhood bff's hot daddy.

by Anonymousreply 27May 18, 2024 1:07 AM

I always confuse Cornelia Otis Skinner with Adela Rogers St. John.

And that Italian bike racer was HOTTTTTTTT!

by Anonymousreply 28May 18, 2024 1:28 AM

Keely Smith had a terrific voice. I was aware of her when I was younger but I thought she was more of a novelty act with her deadpan demeanor and Louis Prima. But as an adult, I came to really appreciate her Great American Songbook recordings.

by Anonymousreply 29May 18, 2024 1:33 AM

Adela Rogers St. John reminds me of John Huston.

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by Anonymousreply 30May 18, 2024 1:35 AM

[quote]The Italian bike racer after Cornelia is a cutie.

Beppe Ogna died in 2010. Still handsome in old age.

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by Anonymousreply 31May 18, 2024 1:37 AM

I’m really glad to see IDTTOMOTWMLPLDK still going strong. Rest in power, part 5.

by Anonymousreply 32May 18, 2024 1:56 AM

Yes, r29, Keely had pipes.

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by Anonymousreply 33May 18, 2024 2:05 AM

[quote]Keely Smith had a terrific voice. I was aware of her when I was younger but I thought she was more of a novelty act with her deadpan demeanor and Louis Prima.

I liked her deadpan demeanor so much, I decided to get myself a deadpan demeanor of my own!

by Anonymousreply 34May 18, 2024 4:06 AM

She stole it from me.

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by Anonymousreply 35May 18, 2024 4:43 AM

What was it about deadpan manners back then? Was it considered sexy?

And how did they come up with the phrase deadpan (is it really one word?)?

by Anonymousreply 36May 18, 2024 1:19 PM

Suzanne Goodson, the last of Mark Goodson's three wives, has died.

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by Anonymousreply 37May 18, 2024 2:27 PM

Deadpan Wiki

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by Anonymousreply 38May 18, 2024 2:41 PM

Van Cliburn

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by Anonymousreply 39May 18, 2024 2:45 PM

R39 thanks so much for that clip. When I was in the second grade Van Cliburn was featured in the Weekly Reader when he went to Russian and won the Tchaikovsky competition. I was immediately in love.

My parents bought me the Extended 45 edition of the Piano Concerto in B flat Minor.

Then I saw his picture in Life Magazine and he had RED HAIR. I thought Van Cliburn was his last name....so I called him Tex Van Cliburn and was certain I would grow up and marry him.

Now I want to play my record......

by Anonymousreply 40May 18, 2024 8:21 PM

Perle Mesta

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by Anonymousreply 41May 19, 2024 4:36 AM

Dorothy says Bennett fingered Perle!

by Anonymousreply 42May 19, 2024 4:41 AM

*

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by Anonymousreply 43May 19, 2024 4:55 AM

Am shocked that Dorothy gives out her address on TV to the button maker.

by Anonymousreply 44May 19, 2024 6:04 AM

Oops I meant Arlene is the one who gives her address.

by Anonymousreply 45May 19, 2024 6:04 AM

Was Ethel Merman TRANS?

I ask because girl mermaids are called “Mermaids” and boys are “Mermen.”

by Anonymousreply 46May 19, 2024 6:41 AM

Ethel.

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by Anonymousreply 47May 19, 2024 10:28 AM

The mice raiser looks like Meryl.

by Anonymousreply 48May 19, 2024 10:41 AM

Fred Allen's last years.

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by Anonymousreply 49May 19, 2024 1:34 PM

R45 Nice real estate. This was before Arlene moved to the Ritz Tower to hunt unsuspecting tourists walking along 57th St.

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by Anonymousreply 50May 19, 2024 2:03 PM

[quote]Am shocked that Dorothy gives out her address on TV to the button maker.

John Daly, in a 1960s episode, mentions he lives at the Imperial House.

by Anonymousreply 51May 19, 2024 4:12 PM

r43 Why is that labeled as a "Broadway Original Cast Album" when Merman is the only one from the original cast on it?

by Anonymousreply 52May 19, 2024 4:29 PM

Believe it or not, in the old days (at into the 1970s), many celebrities' addresses and phone numbers were regularly listed in the NY phone directory. I can remember as a kid, wanting to write fan letters and surprised at how easily accessible they were.

by Anonymousreply 53May 19, 2024 5:53 PM

Sorry - at least into the 1970s ^^^^^^^^

by Anonymousreply 54May 19, 2024 5:54 PM

What a dick fuck you were, R53

/j

by Anonymousreply 55May 19, 2024 6:46 PM

R36, it’s still sexy, at least in men. Not smiling at lot or showing much emotion is masculine.

In a beautiful women, a deadpan manner conveyed an indifference and independence that some men would find very appealing.

by Anonymousreply 56May 19, 2024 9:59 PM

R39, he’s just about ready to fly right on out of there, isn’t he?

by Anonymousreply 57May 19, 2024 9:59 PM

Sorry I can't find him as funny as others do.

by Anonymousreply 58May 20, 2024 2:21 AM

Who, r58?

by Anonymousreply 59May 20, 2024 2:26 AM

Ethel 2

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by Anonymousreply 60May 20, 2024 2:28 AM

Ethel does look like a truck driver in drag in Ethel 2.

by Anonymousreply 61May 20, 2024 8:55 AM

Don't understand why the audience laughs at the vitamin salesman when he first arrives.

by Anonymousreply 62May 20, 2024 9:11 AM

Trini Lopez.

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by Anonymousreply 63May 22, 2024 5:40 AM

The garbage collector hath a lithp.

by Anonymousreply 64May 22, 2024 5:50 AM

Consuelo? Have you seen my dumbbells? I wanted to do some light calisthenics on the terrace…

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by Anonymousreply 65May 22, 2024 6:28 AM

Pia Lindstrom on the panel. Angela Landsberry as Mystery Guest.

1966 was the year of big dangly earrings and Pia's got them.

Arlene shows us the mask she wore at Capote's Black&White Ball, held the week before. Bennett and John were at the party too.

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by Anonymousreply 66May 22, 2024 6:49 PM

^ And Angela's got the earrings too.

by Anonymousreply 67May 22, 2024 6:54 PM

She was always bitter about Oscar—right there on WML, too

by Anonymousreply 68May 22, 2024 7:51 PM

Pia looks more like her father than her mother.

by Anonymousreply 69May 22, 2024 7:59 PM

[quote]Angela Landsberry as Mystery Guest.

Jessica Fletcher couldn't solve the mystery of that spelling.

by Anonymousreply 70May 22, 2024 8:40 PM

The earrings of 1966

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by Anonymousreply 71May 23, 2024 12:02 AM

It's so dumb when the panel asks a MG singer to sing a little something for them. Angela is the first one I have seen actually comply. Even Ethel Merman refused.

by Anonymousreply 72May 23, 2024 2:23 AM

to support R69

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by Anonymousreply 73May 23, 2024 2:30 AM

[quote]Angela is the first one I have seen actually comply.

25 year old Bobby Darin graciously complied but did it in such a classy way. Go to 17:50

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by Anonymousreply 74May 23, 2024 2:38 AM

Tonight on Have Gun, Will Travel:

*The Fatalist*

[quote]Martin Gabel stars as immigrant Nathan Shotness, a murder witness who may be the next victim. Smollet: Robert Blake. Rivka: Roxanne Berard. Viola: Regina Gleason. Paladin: Richard Boone...

by Anonymousreply 75May 23, 2024 2:41 AM

Maria Schell before she went crazy.

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by Anonymousreply 76May 23, 2024 3:16 AM

Maria Schell went crazy?

by Anonymousreply 77May 23, 2024 3:24 AM

The R74 episode Arlene's eyebrows seem stenciled on.

by Anonymousreply 78May 23, 2024 3:26 AM

Did handsome Max Schell ever make it over to WML?

by Anonymousreply 79May 23, 2024 3:29 AM

He did.

by Anonymousreply 80May 23, 2024 3:58 AM

No not according to his IMDb.

by Anonymousreply 81May 23, 2024 4:26 AM

R72, Louis Armstrong sang "Hello, Dolly" for the panel. His recording of the song eventually hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 on May 9, 1964, the first non-Beatles song at the top of the chart since January 25.

It's always Arlene who asks the MG to sing, as far as I've seen. She's completely charming when she asks (she also asks dancer-MG's to dance off the stage!), but in one of the earlier threads, there was a post stating that JCD didn't approve of any performances on the show. He certainly seems to enjoy Satchmo here, though.

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by Anonymousreply 82May 23, 2024 6:33 AM

In R74 they all comment on the beauty of the TV weather girl but I'm not seeing it.

by Anonymousreply 83May 23, 2024 8:14 AM

In R74 they all comment on the beauty of the TV weather girl but I'm not seeing it.

by Anonymousreply 84May 23, 2024 8:14 AM

R77 - Max's 2005 documentary on his sister showed her mental and emotional health deteriorated under the pressure of unhappy love affairs and a neurological disorder that robbed her of discipline and judgment. She has become a recluse in their parents’ old chalet in Austria and has spent herself into bankruptcy–a fate from which he rescues her by selling his own art collection. Oblivious to it all, she spends much of her days watching her old movies on TV, imprisoned in the past, that heart-piercing smile still playing on her now-aged features.

by Anonymousreply 85May 23, 2024 8:19 AM

An Austrian Miss Havisham!

by Anonymousreply 86May 23, 2024 10:44 AM

Other than that rather misbegotten version of The Brothers Karamazov with Yul Brynner, William Shatner and Lee J Cobb, did Maria Schell make any other American films?

by Anonymousreply 87May 23, 2024 1:50 PM

JCD referred to the weather girl as an extraordinarily handsome young lady so perhaps he didn't see quite the beauty there either, r83.

I remember Jeanne Parr as the local New Haven TV weather girl when I was a student at Yale. She wasn't so young by then.

by Anonymousreply 88May 24, 2024 2:58 AM

Jeanne Parr

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by Anonymousreply 89May 24, 2024 3:02 AM

Oooh, Jeanne with Glenda!

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by Anonymousreply 90May 24, 2024 3:05 AM

Maria also made The Hanging Tree which is referenced in the R76 show.

by Anonymousreply 91May 24, 2024 3:30 AM

Jill St. John.

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by Anonymousreply 92May 24, 2024 3:40 AM

Jill went to Vietnam with Bob Hope.

by Anonymousreply 93May 24, 2024 3:47 AM

[quote] Jeanne Parr

R89 Ooh! Her pearls really set off that weather front drawn on the chalkboard weather map.

by Anonymousreply 94May 24, 2024 4:15 AM

[quote]Other than that rather misbegotten version of The Brothers Karamazov with Yul Brynner, William Shatner and Lee J Cobb, did Maria Schell make any other American films?

She's not even the most famous Austrian Maria.

by Anonymousreply 95May 24, 2024 4:24 AM

Jill St. was back as the MG on August 20, 1967 but this is post-Dorothy so for me less interesting.

by Anonymousreply 96May 24, 2024 4:33 AM

Allan Sherman

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by Anonymousreply 97May 24, 2024 9:29 AM

Maria Schell was in As The Sea Rages (1959) with Cliff Robertson, also played the lead in the remake of Cimarron (1960), with Glenn Ford and Anne Baxter. And The Mark (1961) with Stuart Whitman.

by Anonymousreply 98May 24, 2024 9:42 AM

Noticed in R97 Arlene is wearing pearls and not her heart necklace.

by Anonymousreply 99May 24, 2024 5:25 PM

Allan Sherman as panelist.

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by Anonymousreply 100May 24, 2024 5:28 PM

I found Maria Schell's perma-smile very annoying, btw.

by Anonymousreply 101May 24, 2024 5:59 PM

My favorite episode is where Pat Suzuki is the mystery guest and one of the panelists joyously tells her they were all singing "Grant Avenue" from "Flower Drum Song" in the green room just before the taping of the show.

The image of Bennett Cerf singing, "Dong-dong! You're in Hong Kong, having yourself a time..." blew my mind.

by Anonymousreply 102May 24, 2024 11:14 PM

Bennett was more likely to sing "The girl who serves you all your food is another tasty dish."

by Anonymousreply 103May 24, 2024 11:27 PM

R100 "Did I ever give you a lift after a party at Joan Crawford's"

You gotta love Dorothy.

by Anonymousreply 104May 24, 2024 11:32 PM

Did Bennett ask Pat if she was of the Oriental persuasion?

by Anonymousreply 105May 25, 2024 12:35 AM

Pat Suzuki.

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by Anonymousreply 106May 25, 2024 2:23 AM

Is this the album Dorothy was referencing?

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by Anonymousreply 107May 25, 2024 3:55 AM

In the R106 Franklin Heller segment JCD references the previous week where they had the intruder come on set.

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by Anonymousreply 108May 25, 2024 4:10 AM

It's the most exciting tho-rough-fare I know!

by Anonymousreply 109May 25, 2024 4:22 AM

Bill Hartack in R100 looks like Sean Hayes.

by Anonymousreply 110May 25, 2024 7:42 AM

Nancy Walker.

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by Anonymousreply 111May 26, 2024 7:40 AM

Helen Traubel.

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by Anonymousreply 112May 27, 2024 6:33 AM

Jeez Wally Cox brings the game to a grinding holt.

by Anonymousreply 113May 27, 2024 7:03 AM

I can't recall a worse panelist than Wally Cox. Surely he was never invited back.

by Anonymousreply 114May 27, 2024 7:09 AM

Yes his humor leaves me stone faced. He was a panelist one more time on the episode March 27, 1955. He was the MG on September 20, 1953.

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by Anonymousreply 115May 27, 2024 10:43 AM

His wonderful talents are just as tedious and unfunny when he was the guest.

by Anonymousreply 116May 27, 2024 11:03 AM

Wally Cox made me long for the witty badinage of Sam Levenson.

by Anonymousreply 117May 27, 2024 11:15 AM

R114, Why was Marlon Brando so besotted with him?

by Anonymousreply 118May 27, 2024 11:39 AM

I loved Wally as Mr. Peepers, but his nervous shyness in that role is exactly what makes him awkward and vaguely embarrassing in other contexts.

by Anonymousreply 119May 27, 2024 12:23 PM

Wally was cute with a script. But ad libbing....just no.

by Anonymousreply 120May 27, 2024 1:32 PM

For me, anyway, Victor Borge is right down there with Wally as worst panelist ever.

by Anonymousreply 121May 27, 2024 1:33 PM

I wonder if the panelists were all singing songs from Rodgers & Hammerstein's Sweet Thursday before Helen Traubel's appearance?

by Anonymousreply 122May 27, 2024 1:55 PM

Sorry, I meant Pipe Dream (based on Steinbeck's novel, Sweet Thursday).

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by Anonymousreply 123May 27, 2024 2:03 PM

With Dorothy and Arlene and Bennett, I like Tony Randall as the 4th panelist though am not a fan of his acting, and Robert Q. Lewis. I like Joey Bishop for the hot factor.

by Anonymousreply 124May 27, 2024 2:55 PM

[quote] Jeez Wally Cox brings the game to a grinding holt.

Reminds me of my cousin, Adele Holt. She was a stripper.

by Anonymousreply 125May 27, 2024 2:58 PM

R124, those are good choices. I thought I was the only one who found Joey Bishop hot.

Tony Randall is pretty good, although he can be annoyingly mannered. RQL is an excellent player. Right now I'm watching 1964, and Steve Lawrence has been a guest panelist quite a bit. He's a good player and awfully cute.

Out of loyalty and liking, though, I'd have to put Martin Gabel at the top of the list of guests panelists. His charm, self-deprecating humor, great voice, and the fact that he obviously adores Arlene make him a favorite for me. I'm always happy when he turns out to the guest.

by Anonymousreply 126May 27, 2024 9:56 PM

^^^ "... turns out to BE the guest PANELIST." Jeez, I haven't even had a cocktail yet.

by Anonymousreply 127May 27, 2024 9:58 PM

Joey Bishop did not age well.

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by Anonymousreply 128May 27, 2024 9:59 PM

Joey Bishop was known to be a prick to work with/for, much like Jerry Lewis, Danny Kaye, etc.

by Anonymousreply 129May 27, 2024 10:01 PM

Regis Philbin was ABC late night host Joey Bishop’s announcer/sidekick.

by Anonymousreply 130May 27, 2024 10:07 PM

He was my sidekick!

by Anonymousreply 131May 27, 2024 10:31 PM

And mine!

by Anonymousreply 132May 27, 2024 10:32 PM

And mine!!!!

by Anonymousreply 133May 27, 2024 10:58 PM

R126 - Haha I forgot about Martin Gabel. Have you ever seen him on the same panel with Bennett and Dorothy and Arlene?

by Anonymousreply 134May 28, 2024 12:53 AM

Chuck Dressen.

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by Anonymousreply 135May 28, 2024 12:56 AM

Never heard of him! Would baseball managers be recognizable today to the general public?

by Anonymousreply 136May 28, 2024 1:52 AM

Chuck Dressen was manager of my hometown Detroit Tigers. Due to illness, he had to retire early in the season. He died that August. His interim successor, Bob Staff, also took ill & was unable to complete the season. He also was to die that fateful year.

by Anonymousreply 137May 28, 2024 2:29 AM

^ In 1966

by Anonymousreply 138May 28, 2024 2:31 AM

R133, And mine!

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by Anonymousreply 139May 28, 2024 2:43 AM

Can't remember if it was in one of these WML threads or another one entirely but there was a discussion of "deadpan" and some felt it could be a very sexy vibe. I guess Joey Bishop had a kind of deadpan thing going.

by Anonymousreply 140May 28, 2024 3:00 AM

Despite the bland exterior, Wally Cox was an avid weightlifter and had a very fit bod underneath those clothes. That may be part of what Brando saw in him...

by Anonymousreply 141May 28, 2024 3:06 AM

R135 makes references to Dorothy being back so I was curious who was in the previous show.

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by Anonymousreply 142May 28, 2024 3:31 AM

[quote]For me, anyway, Victor Borge is right down there with Wally as worst panelist ever.

Victor Borge gets my vote as the least funny "funnyman" ever. I watched an episode of "I've Got a Secret" recently in which Borge was setting up some elaborate musical routine that seemed to involve a hundred people. It just went on and on and on. I had to turn it off because I was losing my will to live.

by Anonymousreply 143May 28, 2024 3:59 AM

Faye Emerson also filled for Dorothy on September 14, 1952.

by Anonymousreply 144May 28, 2024 5:43 AM

Herb Shriner.

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by Anonymousreply 145May 28, 2024 9:38 AM

R134, yes, Martin was probably the most frequent guest panelist and was on with the three regulars often. It made for a cozy group because of course Martin knew Dorothy and Bennett almost as well as Arlene. He didn’t feel like a guest but rather a regular alternate.

by Anonymousreply 146May 28, 2024 6:01 PM

R136, NFL coaches (and quarterbacks) might be more recognizable today, but still not as much as baseball seems to have been in WML days.

by Anonymousreply 147May 28, 2024 6:01 PM

R141, that, and Wally was cute. It’s also possible that his annoying manner on WML was mostly an ill-advised shtick, and he was more bearable IRL.

R144, Faye filled in for Dollie Mae a few times later on as well. I started my WML binge with 1955, and I’ve seen her several times. She had an off-putting way about her. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but she was a bit distant and lacking in the warmth and humor our regulars have. Didn’t she later on go crazy or become a recluse or something?

by Anonymousreply 148May 28, 2024 6:03 PM

Think Bill Belichick as a mystery guest…that’s what it would have been like…

by Anonymousreply 149May 28, 2024 6:05 PM

Faye E.

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by Anonymousreply 150May 28, 2024 8:26 PM

Wally Cox was a great Mystery Guest.

He was doing an impression of his best friend Marlon Brando in "Streetcar".

Very funny.

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by Anonymousreply 151May 28, 2024 8:43 PM

^ And you just know Brando was watching this and laughing it up.

by Anonymousreply 152May 28, 2024 8:45 PM

^^ And getting hard over it.

by Anonymousreply 153May 28, 2024 9:27 PM

My boyfriend's bitter

No followers on Twitter

I'm shaving my shoulder

More hair as I get older

And all because of the show where no one pays.

by Anonymousreply 154May 28, 2024 9:33 PM

^oops that was for the Ben Platt thread.

by Anonymousreply 155May 28, 2024 9:34 PM

Didn’t she later on go crazy or become a recluse or something?

Are you confusing Faye Emerson with Frances Farmer? She looks just like her.

by Anonymousreply 156May 28, 2024 9:37 PM

Butterface?

by Anonymousreply 157May 28, 2024 9:39 PM

r156, did you read r150?

by Anonymousreply 158May 28, 2024 9:40 PM

Just watched the Wally Cox as MG episode. Hilarious, it's no wonder they asked him to be a guest panelist. Sad that didn't work out better.

Arlene: Are you a low comic?

by Anonymousreply 159May 29, 2024 2:08 AM

Yogi Bear.

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by Anonymousreply 160May 29, 2024 3:35 AM

3 beautiful people, plus Suzy Parker on the panel.

by Anonymousreply 161May 29, 2024 4:02 AM

Watching that episode, it was noticeably duller without Arlene's presence.

Funny/sad to think Miss Iceland the telephone operator and the cute Peace Corp worker would both be well into their 80s now, or dead.

by Anonymousreply 162June 1, 2024 3:11 AM

Suzy Parker is a lousy panelist but so beautiful.

I loved the audience...and John Daley's... reaction to the entrance of Yogi.

Berra is very charismatic.

by Anonymousreply 163June 1, 2024 3:47 AM

Suzy sure seemed to be flirting with the Peace Corps guy.

by Anonymousreply 164June 1, 2024 4:39 AM

Tuesday Weld. Another episode without Arlene.

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by Anonymousreply 165June 1, 2024 4:42 AM

Miyoshi Umeki

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by Anonymousreply 166June 1, 2024 2:18 PM

r166 Surely you're aware that any reference to Miss Umeki MUST be preceded by "The delicate, some would say flower-like ... " on Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 167June 1, 2024 2:26 PM

[quote]"The delicate, some would say flower-like ... "

She hit me in the head with a fondue pot.

by Anonymousreply 168June 1, 2024 2:28 PM

Arlene making a wisecrack about sukiyaki?!

by Anonymousreply 169June 1, 2024 2:30 PM

So funny when Dorothy is trying to guess the flea raiser. Bennett suggests cockroach and she asks, "WHAT would you be breeding them for?!"

by Anonymousreply 170June 1, 2024 2:32 PM

Fun fact: Yogi Berra and Joe Garagiola were childhood friends.

by Anonymousreply 171June 1, 2024 3:21 PM

FF: they were FB

by Anonymousreply 172June 1, 2024 4:24 PM

Tuesday Weld acquitted herself admirably but something tells me she just didn't want to be there with all those old fuddy-dudddies. I've never heard of the film she was promoting BACHELOR FLAT. Anyone?

by Anonymousreply 173June 1, 2024 6:24 PM

Bennett at R173. The kids have this new-fangled thing: Gidget, or Gurgle, or similar

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by Anonymousreply 174June 1, 2024 6:34 PM

Tom Poston.

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by Anonymousreply 175June 2, 2024 4:49 AM

When he was nearly 80, Tom Poston married Suzanne Pleshette. She was in her late 60s. Now that was an unexpected pairing.

by Anonymousreply 176June 2, 2024 5:07 AM

^She was in her early 60s.

by Anonymousreply 177June 2, 2024 5:09 AM

He was also a panelist 8 times.

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by Anonymousreply 178June 2, 2024 5:49 AM

That was a wild head jewel on the dental assistant in R175.

by Anonymousreply 179June 2, 2024 5:59 AM

Interesting comment on the YouTube page for R178 that calls back to the title of the thread.

Having watched a lot of these episodes in a row, there's definitely a little something-something between Dorothy and Martin. Martin might just be the only one who's truly nice to her (the others just seem to tolerate her), so she feels warmer towards him. It's very sweet how kind Martin is to her when the others are cold or indifferent.

by Anonymousreply 180June 2, 2024 6:44 AM

R176, They had dated many years prior, so it was a reconnection. After he died, Suzanne discovered he was much wealthier than she knew, but she didn’t live much longer to enjoy it.

by Anonymousreply 181June 2, 2024 9:03 AM

Jo Stafford.

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by Anonymousreply 182June 2, 2024 11:41 AM

R181 Basically, Emily married The Peeper.

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by Anonymousreply 183June 2, 2024 12:04 PM

Mystery Guest Leslie Uggams. Adorable

Michele Lee looking gorgeous.

And both are still with us!.

How short is Martin Gabel?

What a beautiful theatrical voice he had.

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by Anonymousreply 184June 2, 2024 1:02 PM

Tom Poston was no Troy Donahue.

by Anonymousreply 185June 2, 2024 1:44 PM

Martin Gabel did, indeed, have a wonderful voice. He was also one hell of an actor -equally adept at drama and comedy. It is a shame he is so little remembered. Many threads ago someone called him a troll, and questioned what Arlene ever saw in him.. I'd say it was probably that he was smart, kind, funny, and talented.

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by Anonymousreply 186June 2, 2024 9:32 PM

Weak chin—that’s why they got along well…^^

by Anonymousreply 187June 2, 2024 9:44 PM

^Wrong wife.

by Anonymousreply 188June 2, 2024 9:55 PM

No —my comment was as to how he got along with Dorothy

by Anonymousreply 189June 2, 2024 10:18 PM

Martin Gabel's great voice led to much work as a voiceover talent. He narrated many a documentary.

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by Anonymousreply 190June 3, 2024 12:29 AM

Nothing against Martin, I enjoyed his WML appearances very much and he co-starred in the first Broadway show I saw, BAKER STREET, as Moriarty. But seriously, r186. what other roles should we be remembering him from?

by Anonymousreply 191June 3, 2024 2:58 AM

R191, The boss Tippi Hedren stole money from in “Marnie”.

by Anonymousreply 192June 3, 2024 3:41 AM

Sadly, he didn't do much film work. My favorite is his uncredited role in Lord Love a Duck with Roddy McDowell and Tuesday Weld. He plays a teen-movie producer/director who wants to make Weld a star, talking Hollywood production budgets while standing in line for his unemployment check. It's a memorable role -not a tiny cameo. I don't know why it was done uncredited.

by Anonymousreply 193June 3, 2024 3:58 AM

What is happening with the window washers hair in R184?

by Anonymousreply 194June 3, 2024 6:30 AM

R180 and R186, I only know Martin from WML, but he's always warm, kind, gracious and self-deprecating on the show. From all appearances, he was a lovely man. And I'll be he was great in bed. Arlene seems like a very satisfied woman.

by Anonymousreply 195June 3, 2024 7:51 AM

The Leslie Uggams was referenced before. and it was noted how her makeup makes her look bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 196June 3, 2024 7:59 AM

Miss Janis Paige is DEAD to us.

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by Anonymousreply 197June 3, 2024 9:37 PM

^^^ BOO! I don't need more bad news today.

by Anonymousreply 198June 3, 2024 11:00 PM

Janis was never on WML.

by Anonymousreply 199June 3, 2024 11:17 PM

Our loss!

by Anonymousreply 200June 3, 2024 11:29 PM

[quote]Janis was never on WML.

I've Got a Secret and To Tell the Truth are What's My Line? adjacent.

by Anonymousreply 201June 4, 2024 12:29 AM

They were the cream of the game show crop.

by Anonymousreply 202June 4, 2024 12:31 AM

Allen Funt.

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by Anonymousreply 203June 4, 2024 1:49 AM

Allen Funt was one of the most disliked men in show business.

Both Joan Rivers and Liz Smith wrote of the horror of working for him.

by Anonymousreply 204June 4, 2024 2:20 AM

What about Dorothy Collins and Fannie Flagg? They also worked with Funt on Candid Camera.

by Anonymousreply 205June 4, 2024 2:32 AM

I always felt sorry for Bess Myerson that they made her sit on the far end of the panel on I've Got a Secret. On WML Dorothy and Arlene would switch the seat between the two male panelists and at least the loser got to sit at the head of the panel, not the rear end.

by Anonymousreply 206June 4, 2024 2:34 AM

They had to keep Betsy & Henry apart after Henry made a comment that offended Betsy.

by Anonymousreply 207June 4, 2024 2:46 AM

This is the July 1967 show where Henry Morgan was openly rude to Bennett during the introductions which angered John Daly.

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by Anonymousreply 208June 4, 2024 8:56 AM

It's not much of a story. Plus they hire comediennes to do the show so they want them to be irreverent.

by Anonymousreply 209June 4, 2024 9:52 AM

What's particularly unfortunate about Henry's remarks re Bennett is they seem to come from something that was said or occurred backstage, before the game began. He's just mean-spirited and the moment is so awkward, nothing funny or humorous about it, even as a jibe. I wonder what was behind it all.

by Anonymousreply 210June 4, 2024 12:52 PM

R210, It was two months before the final show of the series, I’m guessing that was Henry’s final appearance.

by Anonymousreply 211June 4, 2024 12:58 PM

That was Henry's last live appearance on the show, R211, but a pre-taped show with Henry aired subsequently.

by Anonymousreply 212June 4, 2024 1:15 PM

Had I've Got a Secret already ended its run?

by Anonymousreply 213June 4, 2024 1:47 PM

r208 I guess I must be ancient because I recognized Everett Dirksen right away.

by Anonymousreply 214June 4, 2024 5:11 PM

[quote] Had I've Got a Secret already ended its run?

Yes, its final telecast was April 3, 1967.

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by Anonymousreply 215June 4, 2024 6:01 PM

Someone mentioned Julie London having tension on the show with Dorothy. Let's see #1.

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by Anonymousreply 216June 5, 2024 2:29 PM

Julie London. I always thought that was such a pretty name.

Love her sexy sultry 1950s album covers.

Get a load of this:

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by Anonymousreply 217June 5, 2024 3:05 PM

She fucked Randolph Mantooth behind the fire truck parked outside the hospital, but just that one time.

by Anonymousreply 218June 5, 2024 4:40 PM

r216, that is not the tension-filled Julie London segment.

by Anonymousreply 219June 5, 2024 6:03 PM

Julie London #2

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by Anonymousreply 220June 6, 2024 1:27 AM

Dorothy fancied herself a singer and enjoyed singing for her party guests.

by Anonymousreply 221June 6, 2024 1:33 AM

I'm not sure anyone on the panel had much patience for Julie London at r220. I think that was actually the first of her 2 MG appearances and she stumped them all both times, a difficult performer to categorize, I guess.

But the false teeth maker for cows was one very handsome dude.

by Anonymousreply 222June 6, 2024 2:18 AM

Julie London is gorgeous in that episode but the panel seemed quite annoyed with her antics, especially Dorothy.

Up until Julie, the show is hilarious. Very free and loose.

The false teeth maker for cows was handsome indeed, and that interpreter was quite a looker too.

by Anonymousreply 223June 6, 2024 3:03 AM

The interpreter Alexander Akalovsky died in 2020 at the age of 97.

by Anonymousreply 224June 6, 2024 3:11 AM

I was on I've Got a Secret when I was three years old. In 1954. One of the panelists was my godfather, and they wanted a cute episode with a kid.

I wish I could find a tape of that show but I'm not sure they taped tv back then. Can anyone help?

by Anonymousreply 225June 6, 2024 3:16 AM

Julie London #3.

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by Anonymousreply 226June 6, 2024 3:41 AM

R225, a good many of the early IGaS episodes, in which Garry Moore would introduce the show as a “snoopy” kind of show, can be found on the BillCullenNet YouTube channel.

by Anonymousreply 227June 6, 2024 4:32 AM

Connie Francis. With Jerry Lewis as guest panelist.

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by Anonymousreply 228June 6, 2024 8:23 AM

The tiger trainer when young.

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by Anonymousreply 229June 6, 2024 8:51 AM

R228 Dorothy guessed Connie Francis in no time.

by Anonymousreply 230June 7, 2024 1:46 AM

Connie Francis was IMMENSELY popular from around 1959-1964. And though beginning as a teen fave, their parents loved her, too.

by Anonymousreply 231June 7, 2024 4:11 AM

Connie looks short.

by Anonymousreply 232June 7, 2024 7:13 AM

R232 = Addison DeWitt

by Anonymousreply 233June 7, 2024 10:47 AM

Sheilah Graham, Helen Hayes.

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by Anonymousreply 234June 8, 2024 7:41 PM

Sheilah Graham always seemed so pleasant and lady-like. Not like the cunty gossip columnist she actually was.

by Anonymousreply 235June 9, 2024 1:30 AM

For a "supposedly" brilliant actress, Helen Hayes didn't seem to have a clue as to how to disguise her voice.

by Anonymousreply 236June 9, 2024 1:42 AM

^^^ She was so used to putting on "character" voices that she probably assumed no one would recognize her actual voice.

by Anonymousreply 237June 9, 2024 2:51 AM

R232 She is short at 5 ft. and 1 in. 6ft. with heels and hair!

by Anonymousreply 238June 9, 2024 3:27 AM

Helen Hayes' first appearance on July 1 1951 seems to be lost. But here is her second appearance.

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by Anonymousreply 239June 9, 2024 4:33 AM

Dorothy and Arlene stood for Helen Hayes as she was leaving the stage.

by Anonymousreply 240June 9, 2024 5:54 AM

I didn't hear that Michael Romanoff has any accent.

by Anonymousreply 241June 9, 2024 6:12 AM

Since he was actually American, that's no surprise, R241.

by Anonymousreply 242June 9, 2024 6:33 PM

Mike Romanoff was a prince like Zsa Zsa’s husband is a prince.

by Anonymousreply 243June 9, 2024 8:12 PM

Althea Gibson

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by Anonymousreply 244June 9, 2024 9:34 PM

^ I can definitely see one of the regulars telling Althea Gibson that she was a credit to her race.

by Anonymousreply 245June 9, 2024 9:52 PM

R231 The ovation when Connie Francis entered was tremendous!

by Anonymousreply 246June 10, 2024 2:47 AM

I don't think anyone under 65, or maybe even 70, would understand (or believe) how popular Connie Francis once was, however briefly that fame lasted.

by Anonymousreply 247June 10, 2024 3:01 AM

R247, It wasn’t all that brief. Connie had a string of hit records for years in the 1950s and 1960s.

by Anonymousreply 248June 10, 2024 5:28 AM

The fans sounded like girls.

by Anonymousreply 249June 10, 2024 5:40 AM

R247, here's Connie's discography. She dropped off the charts pretty quickly after 1962.

I'm 67, and I always put her in the category of other teen idols like Paul Anka (on WML several times) or Frankie Avalon. I knew who she was, but I never thought of her as a current pop star because I wasn't paying attention to pop songs before around 1965.

by Anonymousreply 250June 10, 2024 9:44 AM

Oops. The CF discography.

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by Anonymousreply 251June 10, 2024 9:45 AM

Althea sings.

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by Anonymousreply 252June 10, 2024 10:08 AM

IIRC in the 1961 WML clip, JCD congratulates Connie on her 7 gold records and $15 million worth of sales and that was just between 1959 and 1961.

Maybe that doesn't sound like much in these days of Taylor Swift and Beyonce, I don't know. Connie was pretty much done by the time the Beatles showed up in 1964 but she had an incredible if short run, especially for a woman singer in the world of rock and roll, transistor radios and 45s.

by Anonymousreply 253June 10, 2024 1:37 PM

R252. She was also a professional golfer. The first black woman to play in the women’s PGA tour.

by Anonymousreply 254June 10, 2024 2:24 PM

R247 It was not brief! She racked up 17 million selling singles and was a top concert draw throughout the 1960s and beyond. She racked up 57 chart hits just in the USA. In the 1990s, she signed major contracts, and she continued to appear throughout the world. Not brief at all! Her problems produced sporadic shifts, but she was still a top concert draw. A 6 decade career.

by Anonymousreply 255June 11, 2024 2:03 AM

R248 I agree. In fact it was quite long when you consider her concert career, and how it survived the traumas of the 1970s and 1980s. She settled back down in the mid 1990's and became more consistent, and even has some Carnegie Hall appearances to great reviews.

by Anonymousreply 256June 11, 2024 2:07 AM

Here career as a contemporary A list performer was very brief.

YouTube is filled with her disastrous performances from the 70s through the 90s.

An SCTV skit come to life:

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by Anonymousreply 257June 11, 2024 2:23 AM

[quote]Not brief at all! Her problems produced sporadic shifts, but she was still a top concert draw.

Oh please. She's like Bobby Rydell, Fabian, Avalon, Bobby Vinton...they were all still packing them in Atlantic City, still "top concert draws". But who cares? They were/are nostalgia acts. Frankie Valli lip syncs to his old recordings and has sell-out performances. Frankie Avalon is in his 80s and grandmas want to hear him croak through "Venus". They have die-hard fans.

by Anonymousreply 258June 11, 2024 2:39 AM

Listen, I adored Connie Francis as much as anyone when I was a pre-teen in the early 1960s, but by 1965, she was about as relevant in show biz as George Jessel.

by Anonymousreply 259June 11, 2024 2:41 AM

Barbara Ann Scott and her little dog.

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by Anonymousreply 260June 11, 2024 9:09 AM

Dorothy was the one who most liked Pierre.

by Anonymousreply 261June 11, 2024 9:34 AM

Who was Barbara Ann Scott? She must be the only (non pro athlete) MG in WML history I've never heard of.

And yes, I know who Portland Hoffa and Peggy King were.

by Anonymousreply 262June 12, 2024 1:14 AM

Olympic gold medal figure skater.

Who was Sonja, or Tenley, or Carol, or Peggy, or Dorothy, or Katarina, or Kristi, or …so on

by Anonymousreply 263June 12, 2024 1:18 AM

There are lots of (mostly '50s) MGs who are unknown to me, a pop culture enthusiast & Boomer, R262. And, under the heading, "Fame is Fleeting," most of the MGs could be would be unknown today to a maskless panel of celebrities.

by Anonymousreply 264June 12, 2024 1:21 AM

Or Souji, or Trixie, or Anett… and so on

by Anonymousreply 265June 12, 2024 1:22 AM

She had a good life…

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by Anonymousreply 266June 12, 2024 1:27 AM

R259 Her singles sales may have diminished, but she was still a huge concert act, appearing at all major venues - The Copa, Carnegie Hall, The London Palladium, LV, AC, all over. In the mid-1990s, she was able to pull herself up financially by her major concert contracts. Yes, in the early 1960s, she was one of the biggest stars in the world. I do think that with the exception of a few, her choice of single releases left something to be desired, a complete contrast to the late 1950s and early 1960s. She was relevant to adult concert goers post-1965. Everyone's singles success tends to wane over time. She was a great entertainer and she then emphasized that aspect.

by Anonymousreply 267June 12, 2024 1:58 AM

Connie's success was immense that it now took Taylor Swift to break her records. All those years! SMASH!

by Anonymousreply 268June 12, 2024 2:00 AM

R258 She was in a category all her own. I think Joel Whitburn also made that remark. She left her teen idol status, but really was beyond that at the b=very beginning of her career, loved by all generations. While the teens loved her, the adults did as well. Dick Clark stated that she was a rare entertainer, performing for teens by day and in sophisticated adult venues by night.

by Anonymousreply 269June 12, 2024 2:05 AM

The Copa? At the Copacabana?

Still in a dress she used to wear…Faded feathers in her hair?!

by Anonymousreply 270June 12, 2024 2:17 AM

[quote]Her singles sales may have diminished, but she was still a huge concert act, appearing at all major venues - The Copa, Carnegie Hall, The London Palladium

We was spectacular in concert! Just watch!

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by Anonymousreply 271June 12, 2024 2:20 AM

At the R&R Diner?! Is that on Route 3A?

by Anonymousreply 272June 12, 2024 2:25 AM

That’s Liza time, R271!

by Anonymousreply 273June 12, 2024 2:26 AM

We've awakened the Connie Francis troll!

by Anonymousreply 274June 12, 2024 2:48 AM

Woody Allen on panel.

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by Anonymousreply 275June 12, 2024 1:21 PM

Mary is a gangly gal.

by Anonymousreply 276June 12, 2024 1:49 PM

R271 That was an exception. She was overmedicated for the 1989 London Palladium concert, and she left the stage early, producing chaos. The venue redid the stage for her appearances there and she was unable to perform. She appeared on TV the next morning only to make things worse. She was all over the UK tabloids. She later redeemed herself. Yes, she did have her bad performances during that era. Once she pulled herself together, things changed. She amassed over a 100,000,000 in record sales, not a brief career, and while she was almost bankrupt during the tine of this performance, she got herself up and was able to amass her current fortune through concerts. There were great Carnegie Hall concerts. I saw her at VFMC in 1990 in AC where she was just OK and seemed tired, and then again in 1993 where she was spectacular. She, herself, was surprised on that night, but that marked the beginning of her triumphs. She should be credited for getting back her life and fortune. She does own part of her catalog and she releases them as she pleases, and licenses them out when she wants to. She is still active behind the scenes, but in general, she lives a happy and active life, and continues to live like a superstar.

by Anonymousreply 277June 13, 2024 2:50 AM

R277 Yeah, right.

Please post one of her magnificent performances from the 1990s.

We'll wait.

by Anonymousreply 278June 13, 2024 2:56 AM
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