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"Wicked" trailer drops

Okay, bitches. What do you think.

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by Anonymousreply 94May 17, 2024 7:13 PM

Fun fact: The trailer for #Wicked coming out today is not just any occasion, the date was specially chosen to come out on the birthday of the creator of the book “The Wizard of Oz”. 🤩

by Anonymousreply 1May 15, 2024 5:44 PM

Looks subtle

by Anonymousreply 2May 15, 2024 5:47 PM

Flop.

by Anonymousreply 3May 15, 2024 5:49 PM

It looks amazing and magical. This attention to detail is rarely seen in movies today. The sets are said to be the largest built for a motion picture since Ben Hur and Cleopatra. They planted 9 million real tulips on the path to Munchkin Land.

by Anonymousreply 4May 15, 2024 5:49 PM

All that CGI money and none of the magic.

by Anonymousreply 5May 15, 2024 5:53 PM

Are they still doing Part I and Part II?

by Anonymousreply 6May 15, 2024 5:53 PM

The trailer is much better than expected. I still don't see why it needs to be two films, but if they must do it that way they should release the second within a month or two of the first. Theatres can do back-to-back showings of the two parts. Waiting a year for the conclusion is rather anticlimactic -and totally betrays the point of doing two films in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 7May 15, 2024 5:55 PM

Johnny's playing Fiyero? I had no idea, he looks so good!

by Anonymousreply 8May 15, 2024 5:59 PM

The villains-as-misunderstood-heroes trope is so tired. Back in the day, villains were just bad. The wicked witch was just wicked. And she loved being wicked and didn’t need her wickedness explained away. Somehow, people understood that there are bad seeds in the world that need to be defeated, not empathized with.

Now, every villain has to have their origin story told in a way that makes them relatable, and at the same time, we’re meant to understand that the characters who appeared good — the more pleasant and attractive characters — were bad (or at least misguided) the whole time.

This is part of the reason why we have kids on college campuses simping for terrorist groups and shrilling for the abolition of prisons.

by Anonymousreply 9May 15, 2024 6:17 PM

This. Looks. Awful.

Mainly because Bowen Yang's in it.

by Anonymousreply 10May 15, 2024 6:22 PM

It’s Adele Dazeem!

by Anonymousreply 11May 15, 2024 6:26 PM

[quote]Back in the day, villains were just bad.

I don't know, I kinda wish someone had told me "no one is inherently bad" when I was growing up and listening to all those fairy tales. That's a better way to teach life lessons as it's truer to life. And just because something was back in the day and simpler, doesn't mean it was more justified or the right way to approach a story. They did all sorts of bad shit "back in the day", like hunting homos for sport.

by Anonymousreply 12May 15, 2024 6:26 PM

I hate Cynthia Erivo and would like nothing better than for her to have another flop. But it's Arianna who looks like she just doesn't have it.

by Anonymousreply 13May 15, 2024 6:29 PM

Looks great. I love the show though.

by Anonymousreply 14May 15, 2024 6:34 PM

[quote]I kinda wish someone had told me "no one is inherently bad" when I was growing up and listening to all those fairy tales.

I hate to break it to you, R12, but "no one is inherently bad" is a lie. There are inherently bad people out there. There are people who take pleasure in harming others and are irredeemable. Believing otherwise is the real fairy tale.

by Anonymousreply 15May 15, 2024 7:20 PM

You type old, r9.

by Anonymousreply 16May 15, 2024 7:27 PM

Looks better than the first trailer (not saying much) but that last note she (doesn’t) hit still sucks.

by Anonymousreply 17May 15, 2024 7:29 PM

I could do without Ariana's baby girl speaking voice.

by Anonymousreply 18May 15, 2024 7:30 PM

Who did Bowen Yang fuck to get a role in the movie?

by Anonymousreply 19May 15, 2024 7:37 PM

[quote]I could do without Ariana's baby girl speaking voice.

Yes, r18, it should be more deeply sonorous...like Chenoweth or Billie Burke.

by Anonymousreply 20May 15, 2024 7:39 PM

The sound people do seem to be Chenoweth-ing Ariana's singing voice.

by Anonymousreply 21May 15, 2024 7:47 PM

Musicals don’t sell.

by Anonymousreply 22May 15, 2024 7:49 PM

“Wicked” is one of the worst musicals I’ve ever had the displeasure of seeing. It’s third rate childish fanfic.

by Anonymousreply 23May 15, 2024 7:50 PM

And they aren't disguising that it's a musical.

by Anonymousreply 24May 15, 2024 7:57 PM

It’s a beautiful looking trailer, but Elphaba has ONE job, and that is to hit the F in Defying Gravity. Which she didn’t.

by Anonymousreply 25May 15, 2024 7:57 PM

[quote]Which she didn’t

...in the trailer

by Anonymousreply 26May 15, 2024 8:06 PM

To be fair, Maguire was ahead of the misunderstood villain trend as Wicked was published in 95. I quit the book halfway through though I loved his other books. I feel as though I should give them another try -- I think the Wicked series is 4 books total. Did anyone read them?

I think Erivo looks good in this. I was criticizing her casting because of her age but the green makeup distracts from it. This will be a very appealing movie to see in a theater. It should do well.

by Anonymousreply 27May 15, 2024 8:10 PM

I didn't see the stage show but the movie looks Potterfied.

by Anonymousreply 28May 15, 2024 8:34 PM

^I was thinking that too - that it looked like the American version of Hogwarts. That said, it looks entertaining and big spectacle movies are always kind of fun at the holidays when you need a break from your family. Looks better than that Wonka crap they rolled out last year.

by Anonymousreply 29May 15, 2024 11:24 PM

I agree with everything that Matty Maggiacomo says in this video. This will be The Sound of Music for our generation.

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by Anonymousreply 30May 15, 2024 11:59 PM

so all of the white people are against the black girl? Is that what this is about?

I don't know musicals. Looks like "hidden figures" or something.

by Anonymousreply 31May 16, 2024 12:23 AM

The show itself is terrible. I saw it with the original Broadway cast and it was just meh even with Joel Grey as the Wizard. The movie will end with "Defying Gravity" just like act one of the show. Act 2 was slow. For some reason the songs just don't resonate. When it opened in San Francisco pre Broadway it was 4 hours long. The book is so different and worth a read. The sequels have gay content too. Elphaba was a terrorist and the wizard was a dictator and caused genocide with the animal people and the munchkins. In the books Glinda is barely a character on the periphery. Joe Mantello has been collecting a big paycheck all these years so he can have his twinks.

by Anonymousreply 32May 16, 2024 12:26 AM

Any film that has its ending air a year later isn't worth it. Just release it with an intermission and make it a movie-going spectacle. Dragging it out is an insult to the audience, and turns me off to the whole experience.

by Anonymousreply 33May 16, 2024 12:36 AM

[quote] I feel as though I should give them another try -- I think the Wicked series is 4 books total. Did anyone read them?

The first one is terrific--it starts slowly but it really builds up in meanings and becomes hard to put down as you go. When Dorothy appears in the 2nd half of the book (after only appearing in the prologue before that), she's pretty much sidelined from the plot, but she becomes more and more important as it goes on, until finally when she's captured and then throws the bucket of water at Elphaba ("Oh, will this nightmare never end?" Dorothy wails) it feels so inevitable given everything that's gone on before. And the novel doesn't have the same (unconvincing) ending the musical has.

The second and third books are not very good (the third is pretty bad), but i read them all. The fourth book in the series is much more fun--Dorothy comes back, and she's no longer the grave, serious six-year-old of the first Baum book, but has grown up into the silly chatterbox of the later Baum books. Her character brings a levity that is much appreciated. All the subsequent books are not as good as the first one was, though--the first one was genuinely brilliant. I re-read it about every five years now.

by Anonymousreply 34May 16, 2024 12:54 AM

[quote]the first one was genuinely brilliant.

Agreed, r34. It's very dense and you have to be willing to give it time to sink in. It deserves a mini-series. I understand their reasons for making the musical what it is...they wanted it to run, which it certainly has.

by Anonymousreply 35May 16, 2024 1:43 AM

It looks fine. Might even be great. I’ll see it.

No matter how good it may be though, R3 and R22 are probably spot on. Musicals are rarely successful these days.

by Anonymousreply 36May 16, 2024 1:52 AM

Making the focus of the show almost entirely about the relationship between Elphaba and G(a)linda is the result of extensive notes given based on an early workshop by none other than DL Fave and Broadway’s Biggest Cunt (quite a title), Arthur Laurents. He wasn’t wrong given the material that Schwartz, Holzmann and Mantello had concocted even at that early stage, and, no doubt, it’s a big part of the reason it resonates with audiences (read: tween girls) and became one of the biggest hits ever.

by Anonymousreply 37May 16, 2024 2:14 AM

[quote]Musicals are rarely successful these days.

This is Wicked, r36. It'll do fine.

by Anonymousreply 38May 16, 2024 2:17 AM

Oscars for everyone!

by Anonymousreply 39May 16, 2024 2:37 AM

the reviews are going to be wicked

by Anonymousreply 40May 16, 2024 2:40 AM

[quote]the reviews are going to be wicked

They were for the Broadway show and it didn't win Best Musical...didn't matter.

by Anonymousreply 41May 16, 2024 2:43 AM

In the grand tradition of In the Heights, West Side Story (2021) and The Color Purple (2023)

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by Anonymousreply 42May 16, 2024 2:49 AM

then again R41 there was The Producers a smash Broadway success and a major flop of a film

by Anonymousreply 43May 16, 2024 3:08 AM

and don't forget Rent which flopped as a film

by Anonymousreply 44May 16, 2024 3:10 AM

And "Jersey Boys."

by Anonymousreply 45May 16, 2024 3:13 AM

[quote]In the grand tradition of In the Heights, West Side Story (2021) and The Color Purple (2023)

None of those (Producers included) were Wicked..in terms of runs or built in audience.

by Anonymousreply 46May 16, 2024 3:13 AM

Yet again they refuse to actually show much of people singing in the trailer. You hear the singing, but don't see many people actually singing.

by Anonymousreply 47May 16, 2024 3:19 AM

Phantom of the Opera was the longest running show on Broadway and the film flopped! R46

by Anonymousreply 48May 16, 2024 3:19 AM

I never miss a Gerard Butler musical.

by Anonymousreply 49May 16, 2024 3:20 AM

Cats ran for 18 years, and the movie was disastrous

by Anonymousreply 50May 16, 2024 3:23 AM

Chorus Line was a movie flop based on a show that ran for 15 years

by Anonymousreply 51May 16, 2024 3:25 AM

Does anyone really care anymore? The movie is 30+ years too late. And the two female leads are way too fucking old.

by Anonymousreply 52May 16, 2024 3:28 AM

Alternatively, I don’t believe either Sweeney Todd nor Into The Woods recouped on Broadway, though perhaps after the tours they ultimately did, yet both films were successful and got multiple Oscar nominations. That said, the less said about A Funny Thing… and A Little Night Music film adaptations, the better.

by Anonymousreply 53May 16, 2024 3:28 AM

[Quote] I never miss a Gerard Butler musical.

and I never miss a two-part film starring Ariana Grande

by Anonymousreply 54May 16, 2024 3:31 AM

I see the future

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by Anonymousreply 55May 16, 2024 3:33 AM

I've seen hundreds of Broadway shows, and "Wicked" was the most boring by a country mile!

I couldn't believe how long and dull it was!

by Anonymousreply 56May 16, 2024 6:32 AM

wait till you see the movie R56

by Anonymousreply 57May 16, 2024 6:33 AM

[quote] This is Wicked, [R36]. It'll do fine.

No it won’t.

by Anonymousreply 58May 16, 2024 11:02 AM

The fact that this is a two-part movie is insane. Money right down the drain.

by Anonymousreply 59May 16, 2024 11:03 AM

Erivo looks……unfortunate.

by Anonymousreply 60May 16, 2024 12:06 PM

You ARE old, R16.

by Anonymousreply 61May 16, 2024 2:09 PM

Yep, R25, the key of Defying Gravity is lowered, which a big surprise.

by Anonymousreply 62May 16, 2024 2:10 PM

The post on vocals are done already R26. It’s one of the first things they do in a movie musical. It’s recorded and finished. She sang the song transposed down. They won’t be raising the key.

by Anonymousreply 63May 16, 2024 2:12 PM

I am, r61....but I don't type it.

by Anonymousreply 64May 16, 2024 2:15 PM

Is this the first of two movies?

It looks like a fun film.

by Anonymousreply 65May 16, 2024 3:20 PM

Yawn. It looks like Harry Potter set in Oz. Erivo looks too old to be Arianna's sister; her mom, maybe.

by Anonymousreply 66May 16, 2024 4:55 PM

Shiz University looks like a fantasy of what the Bellagio wishes it were.

by Anonymousreply 67May 16, 2024 4:57 PM

I don't have the strength to endure what looks to be a tragic collision of overwrought CGI, amateur facial photoshopping, bad acting, and forced vocalization.

So for those of you who know the story, can anyone tell me how the wicked witch becomes wicked? Because based on this trailer, she looks to be a perfectly nice green lady.

by Anonymousreply 68May 16, 2024 5:17 PM

r68, she falls afoul of the Wizard's political schemes because he wants to exploit her magical powers since he has none. She resists, and so he makes her the enemy of the state, and spreads propaganda she is wicked and deserves to be destroyed.

In the Gregory Maguire novel, she begins to become different from her younger idealistic self because she gets twisted by the evil portrait of her the Ozites think she is (prompted by state propaganda) and because of her need to resist the Wizard. By the time she holds Dorothy hostage in the Castle of the Vinkus (or Winkies, in the L. Frank Baum stories), she's almost entirely lost sight of her original ideals.

by Anonymousreply 69May 16, 2024 5:24 PM

Rent and The Producers were sold out for years on Broadway and tickets were hard to get with people lining up at the theater BO at 10am. When they became films, you couldn't give the tickets away

by Anonymousreply 70May 16, 2024 5:29 PM

Whatever, r70, I still think it will do just fine.

by Anonymousreply 71May 16, 2024 5:31 PM

I went to a reading by Gregory Maguire in 2007 at Bank Street College. I had him sign my first edition of “Wicked” which I bought in 1995 when I read a small sidebar about the book in maybe “Entertainment Weekly” or “OUT”. The show had already been playing for almost 4 years by then. Maguire was very nice.

I had mentioned a book with a somewhat similar premise - 1992’s “WAS” by Geoff Ryman. Maguire lit up and said he loved “WAS” and because of the premise of the “behind the scenes of Oz” story, (the very sad and very fictional story of the “REAL” Dorothy Gael whom Baum uses as inspiration to write his book), Maguire almost didn’t write “Wicked”.

by Anonymousreply 72May 16, 2024 5:40 PM

Does the Dragon Time Clock fit into the musical at all?

by Anonymousreply 73May 16, 2024 5:41 PM

Thank you, R69.

So does the story end happily or tragically?

by Anonymousreply 74May 16, 2024 5:43 PM

Only about 2+ M views so far. That might be alarming to Universal. I believe some upcoming big releases have over 10M views at the same period.

by Anonymousreply 75May 16, 2024 5:46 PM

R74, I am not R69 but it ends ambiguously.

Did the witch ever come back?

“Not yet.”

by Anonymousreply 76May 16, 2024 5:47 PM

[Quote] I still think it will do just fine.

good for you Ariana

by Anonymousreply 77May 16, 2024 7:40 PM

call it The Color Green

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by Anonymousreply 78May 16, 2024 8:52 PM

Fun fact: Both Margaret Hamilton and Cynthia Erivo were 36 years old when portraying the Wicked Witch.

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by Anonymousreply 79May 16, 2024 11:21 PM

No R73 Maybe it did in early out of town tryouts but on Broadway its nothing.

by Anonymousreply 80May 17, 2024 12:32 AM

This looks like a flat out ball.

by Anonymousreply 81May 17, 2024 1:20 AM

it's a shame about the cast.

by Anonymousreply 82May 17, 2024 1:57 AM

Who would you have cast, r82? In the long run it doesn't matter because the show is the star. Like Mamma Mia! or Chicago.

by Anonymousreply 83May 17, 2024 2:05 AM

Wicked to feature prominently at the Paris Olympics this summer, according to Universal head, Donna Langley.

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by Anonymousreply 84May 17, 2024 2:08 AM

That evil isn't real was a big idea in the 70s. Of course it is real, Trump is proof of that.

by Anonymousreply 85May 17, 2024 2:18 AM

Already planning a night with my husband, sister, and niece to see at our Cinebistro. We'll have a ball. I'll eat a gummy but no one else will. Then we'll have cocktails and too questionable food. Who gives a fuck if the movie is okay, good or great. I'll go to appreciate the creativity that went into it from so many people.

by Anonymousreply 86May 17, 2024 2:28 AM

This girl is spilling facts! It will be the best movie musical of our time.

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by Anonymousreply 87May 17, 2024 2:30 AM

Kristin Chenowith was 35 when Wicked opened, Idina Menzel was 32.

Cynthia Erivo is 37, Ariana Grande is 30. I’m not getting that they’re too old for the roles.

by Anonymousreply 88May 17, 2024 2:56 AM

The distance of the stage is more forgiving, r88.

by Anonymousreply 89May 17, 2024 3:00 AM

Then she gets taken out undramatically by that bitch Dorothy with a bucket of water.

by Anonymousreply 90May 17, 2024 3:02 AM

[quote] That evil isn't real was a big idea in the 70s.

Despite the fact that Bonnie Franklin was starring in a popular television show!

by Anonymousreply 91May 17, 2024 3:47 AM

Was Bonnie an Elpheba or a Glinda?

by Anonymousreply 92May 17, 2024 5:36 AM

Eviro and Shrek. Separated at birth?

by Anonymousreply 93May 17, 2024 5:24 PM

Looks great!

by Anonymousreply 94May 17, 2024 7:13 PM
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