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Miami, You in Danger, Gurl! Cuba has collapsed

Get ready for more migrants! No MSM reports yet.

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by Anonymousreply 140May 17, 2024 1:42 PM

That sucks. Most of the hot, light skinned ones have already left.

by Anonymousreply 1May 15, 2024 3:50 PM

No mainstream news sources are reporting?

by Anonymousreply 2May 15, 2024 3:50 PM

This has been coming for a while. Googled for this and there's been articles for months in Bloomberg, Reuters, AP news predicting a total economic collapse

by Anonymousreply 3May 15, 2024 3:51 PM

[quote] THE FINANCIAL BANKING SYSTEM IN CUBA HAS COMPLETELY COLLAPSED, CUBANS WOKE TO LEARN THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS HAVE BEEN EMPTIED…THERE IS NO CASH AT ATM’S !

Margaret Thatcher — 'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.'

by Anonymousreply 4May 15, 2024 3:53 PM

Well all the Floridians who want a dictator in Trump should make their way back there.

by Anonymousreply 5May 15, 2024 3:55 PM

Quick, someone warn the Golden Girls!

by Anonymousreply 6May 15, 2024 3:55 PM

What a shitty embargo, how many decades did it take to get here??

by Anonymousreply 7May 15, 2024 3:58 PM

[quote] ATM’S

What does the ATM possess? Not cash apparently.

by Anonymousreply 8May 15, 2024 3:59 PM

[quote]Quick, someone warn the Golden Girls!

Blanche is already getting dolled up to head out on the water and rescue attractive men. She will leave their wives and children to drown.

This plan might be abandoned once Dorothy reminds her that most of these men are penniless.

by Anonymousreply 9May 15, 2024 4:00 PM

and it's a Trump in every thread in five replies. That's one below average. Kudos senorita.

by Anonymousreply 10May 15, 2024 4:01 PM

OLATT

by Anonymousreply 11May 15, 2024 4:14 PM

So why is this happening?

Anyone have an easy explanation?

by Anonymousreply 12May 15, 2024 4:16 PM

not enough money to go around

by Anonymousreply 13May 15, 2024 4:17 PM

the cash printing machine broke down!

by Anonymousreply 14May 15, 2024 4:17 PM

Communism always collapses.

by Anonymousreply 15May 15, 2024 4:17 PM

R9 I read penisless for a moment. Blanche does not care about pennys.

by Anonymousreply 16May 15, 2024 4:18 PM

miami will get what it deserves

by Anonymousreply 17May 15, 2024 4:19 PM

r15, really?

by Anonymousreply 18May 15, 2024 4:19 PM

If you think Vietnam and China are examples of communism......I just can't

by Anonymousreply 19May 15, 2024 4:20 PM

Right, Vietnam today is communist mostly in name only. It is one of the fastest growing economies on Earth. Not due to communism, of course.

by Anonymousreply 20May 15, 2024 4:34 PM

Progressives want the US to be Cuba.

by Anonymousreply 21May 15, 2024 4:38 PM

Yeah, I was in Vietnam on holiday a few years back. Never had I seen so many Roll Royces, Maybachs, Mercedes, Bentleys, Ferraris Lambos etc or so much conspicuous consumption. Its a fiercely capitalist society with a very very thin communist veneer that is peeling off everywhere at least in the cities

by Anonymousreply 22May 15, 2024 4:41 PM

Not sure if this report is true, but one of Cuba's main benefactors, Russia, is now a broke ass bitch. So that may be one sugar daddy gone

by Anonymousreply 23May 15, 2024 4:46 PM

[quote] Right, Vietnam today is communist mostly in name only. It is one of the fastest growing economies on Earth. Not due to communism, of course.

[quote] Yeah, I was in Vietnam on holiday a few years back. Never had I seen so many Roll Royces, Maybachs, Mercedes, Bentleys, Ferraris Lambos etc or so much conspicuous consumption. Its a fiercely capitalist society with a very very thin communist veneer that is peeling off everywhere at least in the cities

And ripe for corruption.

Like that lady who stole over a billion dollars from banks, and got the death sentence.

Vietnam is still a shithole 3rd world backwards country, trying to find its way in the modern world.

And China is.... China. It will never be anything but a corrupt, authoritarian society full of thieves and scammers.

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by Anonymousreply 24May 15, 2024 4:47 PM

That tweet is literally just a photo of a traffic accident in Cuba. If someone is shouting "why isn't the MSM reporting this?!" on fucking Twitter, it's safe to immediately disregard their message.

But yes, those of us who have been following the Cuban meltdown are well aware of their situation. Don't wait to be spoon-fed international news by news outlets, maybe venture out and read stuff on your own now and then.

by Anonymousreply 25May 15, 2024 4:47 PM

The Cuban economy is in no way affected by the most powerful nation in world history treating it as a pariah for decades. It’s just a 1:1 analogy to the Democrats here and proof that austerity is best.

by Anonymousreply 26May 15, 2024 4:48 PM

Wouldn't be a thread about Cuba without the requisite socialism quote from that dead bitch cunt from hell.

by Anonymousreply 27May 15, 2024 4:48 PM

Play it Sam. Play zRomy’s Theme.

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by Anonymousreply 28May 15, 2024 4:53 PM

This sounds like fake

by Anonymousreply 29May 15, 2024 4:56 PM

[quote] Vietnam is still a shithole 3rd world backwards country, trying to find its way in the modern world.

I wouldn't call it third world, it's developing. Third world is reserved for countries like Haiti and Papua New Guinea. All countries have to start from somewhere and Vietnam is progressing much faster than others.

by Anonymousreply 30May 15, 2024 4:58 PM

The Cuban Exile community in Miami is known for spreading nonsense like this, with zero proof or mainstream notice. They spent decades sharing the "breaking news" that The Beard was dead, and they were proven wrong every time.

It's rumors and gossip, nothing more.

by Anonymousreply 31May 15, 2024 5:03 PM

Well to be honest their economic collapse happened at the fall of the Soviet Union. It's a 3rd world shit hole to be honest. As soon as the collapse of USSR we should have taken continual baby steps to bring them into our sphere. Why we didn't I don't know.

by Anonymousreply 32May 15, 2024 5:06 PM

R32 Because Florida has a lot of electoral votes, and was a swing state in the 1990s and 2000s. And because the Cuban Exile community in Miami is potently - sometimes violently - opposed to ANY overtures of peace or normalization with even a post-Soviet and post-Castro Cuba.

We missed that opportunity because four presidents in a row were afraid of losing Florida in the next election.

by Anonymousreply 33May 15, 2024 5:10 PM

[quote] The Beard was dead, and they were proven wrong every time.

Except the last.

by Anonymousreply 34May 15, 2024 5:15 PM

This has to be fake. I think some US media would be reporting if an entire country just collapsed right outside our borders.

by Anonymousreply 35May 15, 2024 5:55 PM

I’ll wait until Gloria Estefan comments.

by Anonymousreply 36May 15, 2024 6:07 PM

The story could have merit.

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by Anonymousreply 37May 15, 2024 6:27 PM

Hmmm - why isn't the news covering?

by Anonymousreply 38May 15, 2024 6:32 PM

It would be hysterical to see what Trump's response to Cuban refugees. Far from viewing it as a Humanitarian situation, he would have to follow suit with his Anti-Immigrant agenda, and completely oppose it- or lose serious standing. However the Conservative Cuban community ( and many other Hispanics) would read him to filth.

by Anonymousreply 39May 15, 2024 6:32 PM

All the Cuban refugees with money already left. The ones still there are all broke and have lived under decades of socialism. It would be pretty easy to deny them access to the US. And the Hispanics here would be cheering that on.

by Anonymousreply 40May 15, 2024 6:58 PM

Send them to Mar-a-Lago

by Anonymousreply 41May 15, 2024 7:00 PM

Biden is the one opening up the borders and giving undocumented migrants prepaid VISA cards and shelter space.

by Anonymousreply 42May 15, 2024 7:19 PM

I need to get to Cuba for some cheap Cuban pinga.

by Anonymousreply 43May 15, 2024 7:22 PM

[quote]Don't wait to be spoon-fed international news by news outlets, maybe venture out and read stuff on your own now and then.

People who say stuff like this spend a lot of time surfing the internet for their inside information.

by Anonymousreply 44May 15, 2024 7:28 PM

R16 as long as they can sing and are gentleman

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by Anonymousreply 45May 15, 2024 7:30 PM

miami deserves it

by Anonymousreply 46May 15, 2024 7:36 PM

Still not on CNN, ABC or BBC.

Ok.

by Anonymousreply 47May 15, 2024 7:55 PM

Idiots, Cuba doesn’t have a globally connected financial banking system to collapse.

by Anonymousreply 48May 15, 2024 8:14 PM

This is the only news story I could find even remotely related to the twitter claim. It does talk about a shortage of banknotes, but does not say it's because the country has economically collapsed:

"Experts say there are several reasons behind the shortage, all somehow related to Cuba’s deep economic crisis, one of the worst in decades.

Omar Everleny Pérez, a Cuban economist and university professor, says the main culprits are the government’s growing fiscal deficit, the nonexistence of banknotes with a denomination greater than 1,000 Cuban pesos (about $3 in the parallel market), stubbornly high inflation and the nonreturn of cash to banks.

“There is money, yes, but not in the banks,” said Pérez, adding that most of the cash is being held not by salaried workers, but by entrepreneurs and owners of small- and medium-size business who are more likely to collect cash from commercial transactions but are reluctant to return the money to the banks."

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by Anonymousreply 49May 15, 2024 9:41 PM

Another article explaining Cuba's financial crisis—crisis, but not collapse.

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by Anonymousreply 50May 15, 2024 9:43 PM

The standard liberal position seems to be that if only Cuba would junk its system and instead install the kind of government that Washington likes to do business with, it would turn into a Switzerland on the Caribbean. Of course in order to hold this position you have to ignore all the actual real-life examples of countries in the region who have adopted the policies Washington wants them to adopt, like Haiti or Jamaica for example.

by Anonymousreply 51May 15, 2024 9:49 PM

I thought communist countries comprised the Second World?

by Anonymousreply 52May 15, 2024 9:53 PM

I visited Cuba and 2007 and loved it. It's a beautiful country and a fascinating people. There are good and bad aspects to life there. It has a thriving cultural scene and there is a solid basic social safety net, but of course there are also shortages, forms of rationing and restrictions on freedoms, as there are in different forms everywhere.

It is a pity that the US government and establishment has pursued such a psychotic vendetta against Cuba for so many decades. It seems that if you commit genocide, or ban all women from driving cars, or stamp out minority religions and cultures, you can still do business with Washington and get invited to address Congress and stay in the White House. But nationalise some oil company possessions and you are cancelled forever.

by Anonymousreply 53May 15, 2024 9:56 PM

R52 The 'Second World' originally referred to the countries which signed the Warsaw Pact with the Soviet Union (vs the '1st world' being the US and its NATO allies, and the Third World being the unaligned countries). Cuba never signed the Pact though it was a Soviet-aligned country. The term 'third world' has changed a lot in meaning though, and today is generally regarded as outdated, unless of course it is being used as a term of abuse like by the poster above.

by Anonymousreply 54May 15, 2024 9:59 PM

Have you ever met any of the Cubans in Miami, ConcernedEuropean?

by Anonymousreply 55May 15, 2024 10:00 PM

I haven't ever been to Florida R55, but I've read reports on the Miami Cubans and encountered some of their views online, and they do seem to me to be among the worst people on earth. The 'Elian' episode seemed from a distance to be absolutely psychotic.

My line manager's line manager at the university which employs me is a Miami Cuban. It might not be a total coincidence that the School he runs has one of the worst records for exploitative contracts and employment conditions in the whole university.

by Anonymousreply 56May 15, 2024 10:06 PM

Having met quite a few of the privileged Venezuelan exports, they are almost as bad.

by Anonymousreply 57May 15, 2024 10:08 PM

[quote] The term 'third world' has changed a lot in meaning though, and today is generally regarded as outdated, unless of course it is being used as a term of abuse like by the poster above.

I believe that "Second World" and "Third World" has been replaced with the term "Developing Nation."

Not sure what they now call "First World," though.

by Anonymousreply 58May 15, 2024 10:13 PM

SEEMS LEGIT. "FINANCIAL BANKING SYSTEM" DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A PHRASE UTTERED BY A CRAZY PERSON.

by Anonymousreply 59May 15, 2024 10:20 PM

Whatever else is true of Cuba, there is no reason to keep clinging desperately to our idiotic boycott. It's been an inane, neurotic, and stupid policy for decades, and if ending it completely today can help, I at least hope we do that bare minimum.

by Anonymousreply 60May 15, 2024 11:05 PM

The weird thing is that Cuba was an American playground for the rich and famous in the 1950's.

If not for the Castro revolution, I think it could have been one of our biggest allies in the region, especially since it's so close to the US.

It also would have been a huge tourist destination, with mega resorts and miles of beaches.

Our government should have tried to do something to fix that relationship.

by Anonymousreply 61May 15, 2024 11:10 PM

Our government could easily fix that relationship by actually just saying fuck off to a few dying old cunts in Miami and start acting like a normal nation dealing with another nation.

by Anonymousreply 62May 15, 2024 11:14 PM

One of Trump's last acts in office was to designate Cuba as a 'State Sponsor of Terrorism' on Jan. 12th 2021. One implication of this is that citizens of third countries who would normally enjoy the right to enter the US visa-free (like the UK or EU countries) lose this right if they visit Cuba after that date. This is especially dumb and vindictive if you consider some of the countries not on the list, like Saudi Arabia for instance.

Biden has mumbled something about reviewing this but hasn't fixed it yet. Maybe in the last week before he leaves office.

by Anonymousreply 63May 15, 2024 11:16 PM

Ask Russher for the money. Ginya

by Anonymousreply 64May 15, 2024 11:21 PM

Obama tried to open up diplomatic relations with Cuba, when he was in office.

What ever happened with that?

by Anonymousreply 65May 15, 2024 11:24 PM

[quote]I visited Cuba and 2007 and loved it. It's a beautiful country and a fascinating people. There are good and bad aspects to life there. It has a thriving cultural scene and there is a solid basic social safety net, but of course there are also shortages, forms of rationing and restrictions on freedoms, as there are in different forms everywhere.It is a pity that the US government and establishment has pursued such a psychotic vendetta against Cuba for so many decades.

Well, ConcernedEuropean, how do you feel about Hungary?

by Anonymousreply 66May 15, 2024 11:25 PM

[quote] Progressives want the US to be Cuba.

Progressives believe in capitalism with compassionate governance. No one should starve or be unhoused. However, Americans seem to want an oligarchy where the rich rule and dictate social policy and the poor suffer.

by Anonymousreply 67May 15, 2024 11:33 PM

R66 I visited many years ago. Budapest has a really cool complex of spas and thermal baths constructed on a network of natural hot springs.

Did you have a more specific question? I don't like Victor Orban much if that's what you are getting at.

by Anonymousreply 68May 15, 2024 11:37 PM

R68 I could take what you said about Cuba and relate it to Hungary. Especially the "psychotic vendetta against it".

by Anonymousreply 69May 15, 2024 11:42 PM

R69 Huh? Who is mounting a blockade against Hungary? It's an EU member.

by Anonymousreply 70May 15, 2024 11:47 PM

R70 Of course there's no blockade but there is a certain hostility, negativity, toward it.

by Anonymousreply 71May 15, 2024 11:57 PM

the negativity toward Orban is justified. He's a fascist authoritarian at heart. What wouldn't be justified is some inane, decades long boycott out of stupid spite.

by Anonymousreply 72May 16, 2024 12:04 AM

R72 My feelings toward Hungary: "There are good and bad aspects to life there. It has a thriving cultural scene and there is a solid basic social safety net...(...)....and restrictions on freedoms, as there are in different forms everywhere." "...and loved it. It's a beautiful country and a fascinating people. ".

by Anonymousreply 73May 16, 2024 12:21 AM

Today: State Department removes Cuba from short list of countries deemed uncooperative on counterterrorism

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by Anonymousreply 74May 16, 2024 12:33 AM

Why can’t these people get their shit together?

by Anonymousreply 75May 16, 2024 12:45 AM

which people? There's a whole lotta shit going on all over the world, including in God's Own Country, the good ole U.S. of A.

by Anonymousreply 76May 16, 2024 12:47 AM

Hi R74, my understanding is that there are 2 lists, a list of countries deemed not to be 'co-operating against terrorism', which Cuba has indeed been removed from, and a list of 'State Sponsors of Terrorism, which it is still on. This doesn't make a great deal of sense to me.

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by Anonymousreply 77May 16, 2024 12:57 AM

[quote]Obama tried to open up diplomatic relations with Cuba, when he was in office. What ever happened with that?

The presidency of Donald J. Trump happened.

by Anonymousreply 78May 16, 2024 12:59 AM

In any case R74, as you'll see if you check the last in this list of FAQs from US Customs and Border Protection, foreign nationals who have visited Cuba since 2021 are still denied visa-free entry to the US via the ESTA system.

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by Anonymousreply 79May 16, 2024 1:00 AM

R73 Ummm....ok? I liked Hungary when I visited. I'm sure I'll go again, even if Orban remains in power. If you offered me a free trip to Hungary or a free trip to Cuba though, I won't be choosing Hungary.

by Anonymousreply 80May 16, 2024 1:02 AM

[quote]I liked Hungary when I visited. I'm sure I'll go again, even if Orban remains in power.

If I had to chose between Salvador Valdés Mesa or Orban. I'll take Orban.

by Anonymousreply 81May 16, 2024 1:08 AM

[quote]My feelings toward Hungary:

It could have been so much more today had they not murdered all their Jews.

by Anonymousreply 82May 16, 2024 1:10 AM

R81 Which of those two do you think are friendlier to the gay community, out of interest?

by Anonymousreply 83May 16, 2024 1:10 AM

R83 I have gay Hungarian friends who are perfectly happy there (as I was in Italy).

As you said: there are "restrictions on freedoms, as there are in different forms everywhere."

by Anonymousreply 84May 16, 2024 1:16 AM

[quote]Progressives want the US to be Cuba.

And Conservatives want the US to be Christian version of Iran.

Once you start losing freedoms you enjoy, I highly doubt that you will be peddling that right-wing bullshit here or anywhere else.

by Anonymousreply 85May 16, 2024 1:17 AM

Cubans vs Haitians. Last one to Florida is a rotten egg!

by Anonymousreply 86May 16, 2024 1:35 AM

Unfortunately for Haitians, r86, we decided as a nation Cubans are sacred beings, Haitians are of the devil.

by Anonymousreply 87May 16, 2024 1:39 AM

[quote]the negativity toward Orban is justified. He's a fascist authoritarian at heart.

Among countries, Freedom House ranks Cuba as "not free" with a "freedom score" at 12 (out of 100). Hungary is ranked at 65.

by Anonymousreply 88May 16, 2024 1:39 AM

[quote] Margaret Thatcher — 'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.'

Things that are Ironyproof, part 73

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by Anonymousreply 89May 16, 2024 1:43 AM

My guess is Hungary benefits enormously from still being an EU member, when it comes to overall freedoms. There is an actual restraint on it, and for its sake I hope it stays within the union. I don't think there is anything about Orban these days that makes him like or value freedom itself. He does see a value in not offending the EU to the point where they toss his ass out.

by Anonymousreply 90May 16, 2024 1:44 AM

[Quote] THE FINANCIAL BANKING SYSTEM

The most critical banking system of them all — the financial one!

by Anonymousreply 91May 16, 2024 1:44 AM

Well there is the sperm banking system.

by Anonymousreply 92May 16, 2024 1:46 AM

R88 Washington-based think tank hates Cuba? Shocker!

by Anonymousreply 93May 16, 2024 1:46 AM

[Quote] Progressives want the US to be Cuba.

Gaslighting in modern culture, a series

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by Anonymousreply 94May 16, 2024 1:48 AM

[quote]I don't think there is anything about Orban these days that makes him like or value freedom itself.

The Fascist is Salvador Mesa. But that of course is OK with you.

by Anonymousreply 95May 16, 2024 1:52 AM

Orban is fascist r95. Salvador Mesa may be hardcore communist, or maybe not. I don't really trust what wingnuts say about Cuba. Regardless, I'm not okay with either, but in neither case do I think the answer is some endless, neurotic, and idiotic boycott based on some stupid fantasy about regime change from 1960.

by Anonymousreply 96May 16, 2024 1:55 AM

[quote]I don't really trust what wingnuts say about Cuba.

Freedom House: "Cuba’s one-party communist state outlaws political pluralism, bans independent media, suppresses dissent, and severely restricts basic civil liberties."

Ranking: Political rights 1 out of 40. Civil liberties 11 out of 60.

"Salvador Mesa may be hardcore communist, or maybe not."

One thing for sure though: you're a total idiot.

by Anonymousreply 97May 16, 2024 2:01 AM

OP still hasn’t shown any receipts, has she?

by Anonymousreply 98May 16, 2024 2:04 AM

And one other thing is clear, r97. You are an Orban fanboy. Why?

by Anonymousreply 99May 16, 2024 2:06 AM

R97 Like I said, Freedom House is an American organisation that operates within a particular political culture. It ranks Cuba below Russia in terms of political freedoms. Really?

That is not to say that Cuba is free - it isn't in many ways. Lifting the blockade would probably make it freer.

by Anonymousreply 100May 16, 2024 2:08 AM

[quote]And one other thing is clear, [R97]. You are an Orban fanboy. Why?

The question here is why is ConcernedEuropean such an apologist for fascist Mesa and one of the least free countries in the world.

by Anonymousreply 101May 16, 2024 2:37 AM

I don't think he is r101. He says it has a mix of good and bad, free and unfree, as some say Hungary is. That's fine. May be true, somewhat true, or whatever.

Regardless, whatever is happening in Cuba and whatever Mesa is like or believes, the Cuban Embargo remains a stupid neurotic mess that we in the U.S. should have abandoned as an idiotic waste of everyone's time and energy, decades ago.

by Anonymousreply 102May 16, 2024 2:44 AM

It is the Biden administration that has toughened the embargo.

by Anonymousreply 103May 16, 2024 2:52 AM

Take your meds R101. They'd be a lot cheaper if you lived in Cuba ;)

by Anonymousreply 104May 16, 2024 3:09 AM

But if he lived in Cuba he’d have no money to buy them at any price

by Anonymousreply 105May 16, 2024 3:47 AM

R105 Healthcare is free in Cuba man! It's the greatest achievement of the revolution!

Americans, your country is actually an outlier in quite a number of ways.

by Anonymousreply 106May 16, 2024 4:01 AM

What country are you from, ConcernedEuropean?

Is it anything Cuba, where medicine is free man! but there isn’t any because, well, it’s free man!

[Quote] Still, the shortage of medicines and medical supplies continues today, with many people taking to social media to tell their stories of hunting down supplies such as anesthesia, suture thread, gauze and antibiotics to undergo surgery.

[quote]Last month, Cubans took to the streets again, this time in Santiago de Cuba, to protest their living conditions, which includes a shortage of medical care.

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by Anonymousreply 107May 16, 2024 5:08 AM

R107 I go back and forth between the UK and Ireland.

Unfortunately due to a paywall I was unable to read your Miami Herald article written by a 'Cuban activist': a pity as I know it would have given a wise, fair, and balanced overview.

There are lots of criticisms you can level at Cuba but given its income level and relative economic and political isolation the performance of its health care system has been remarkable. It achieves similar or better outcomes than the US on a range of indicators at a fraction of the cost.

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by Anonymousreply 108May 16, 2024 5:28 AM

I’m afraid your link is approaching a decade old, concernedeuropean.

Meanwhile you went straight ad hominem on the link I posted despite not having read it. No need for the scare quotes on “Cuban activist” — she’s CUBAN, not a Cuban-American, from Vedado.

by Anonymousreply 109May 16, 2024 6:00 AM

R109 I'm speaking about the performance of the Cuban system since 1959. It has done remarkably well over that time period.

As for your link, I really did want to read it. I don't think it is massively unfair of me however to point out that any Cuban published by a Miami-based newspaper might be writing with some kind of agenda. Do they tell us what kind of activism she does? If not, why not?

by Anonymousreply 110May 16, 2024 6:08 AM

Come on, shake your body, baby, do the conga; I know you can't control yourself any longer!

by Anonymousreply 111May 16, 2024 11:26 AM

The rhythm got them.

by Anonymousreply 112May 16, 2024 11:40 AM

[quote] [R109] I'm speaking about the performance of the Cuban system since 1959. It has done remarkably well over that time period

Oh my god, ha ha ha ha! No, no we are not. We are talking about NOW. Everything in the discussion has been in the present tense. Including your own language.

It’s never been a discussion of historical trends or “developments since 1959” you’ve been “speaking of.”

by Anonymousreply 113May 16, 2024 12:42 PM

[quote] . I don't think it is massively unfair of me however to point out that any Cuban published by a Miami-based newspaper might be writing with some kind of agenda. Do they tell us what kind of activism she does? If not, why not?

Funny how you don’t go ad hom like this on links that support your position (from seven years ago).

If Fidel Castro had published an opinion piece in a Miami paper, would his motives be suspect. I mean, do they tell us what kind of communist revolutionary he is? If not, why not?

by Anonymousreply 114May 16, 2024 12:46 PM

ConcernedEuropean has no problem with "restrictions on freedom" if it's a "brown country". If it's a white country, "restrictions of freedom" means the government is "fascist". Typical white lefty hypocrite.

by Anonymousreply 115May 16, 2024 12:59 PM

R113 Okey dokey, here's a newspaper article from 2024 with some more opinions.

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by Anonymousreply 116May 16, 2024 1:07 PM

R117 I don't really think you can go 'ad hom' on a link.

If Fidel Castro had published a piece telling us what the Cuban healthcare system is like, would I present it here to you as reliable and objective evidence without checking with other sources? Of course not.

But there it is, not much more I can say unless you want to copy-paste your Miami Herald piece into the comments box.

by Anonymousreply 117May 16, 2024 1:13 PM

Cuba is known to have good health care.

It's also known to be one of the world's most repressive societies.

by Anonymousreply 118May 16, 2024 1:23 PM

^That is one impossibly tall order

by Anonymousreply 119May 16, 2024 1:32 PM

Cuba economy is so messed up it can't even grow its own sugar anymore

HAVANA, May 9 (Reuters) - The Cuban sugar harvest is winding down at the lowest tonnage since 1900, forcing the government to import and putting more pressure on its domestic rum, soft drink and pharmaceutical industries, according to official reports, two economists and a rum industry source.

President Miguel Diaz-Canel said at the end of April that the state-run industry had produced 71% of the 412,000 metric tons planned, or just shy of 300,000 metric tons, and would mill into May. Cuba produced 350,000 metric tons in the last harvest and while some sugar mills remain open, yields drop sharply in May as hot, humid weather sets in, accompanied by summer rains.

“This means we will have to import and, of course, less sugar means there is less syrup and alcohol for various industries and, of course, rum,” said Cuban economist Omar Everleny.

For the rum industry, domestic alcohol prices are up 46%, a well-placed industry source said, requesting anonymity.

The communist-run Caribbean island nation was once the world’s top sugar exporter, and produced 8 million metric tons of raw sugar in 1989, before the collapse of its former benefactor, the Soviet Union, sparked a steady decline.

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by Anonymousreply 120May 16, 2024 1:47 PM

[quote]Like I said, Freedom House is an American organisation that operates within a particular political culture.

Oh please.

Here's "Reporters sans frontières" headquartered in Paris

"Cuba remains, year in and year out, the worst country for press freedom in Latin America."

"Televisions, radios, and newspapers are all closely monitored by the government. The constitution prohibits privately owned media. "

"Access to the Internet is still mostly controlled by the state. Bloggers and journalists can express themselves online but do so at their own risk. They are often subjected to harassment that may range from being held for questioning to being placed under house arrest to prevent them from covering major events. "

"Arrests, arbitrary detentions, threats of imprisonment, persecution and harassment, illegal raids on homes, confiscation and destruction of equipment – all this awaits journalists who do not toe the Cuban Communist Party line. "

"The authorities also control foreign journalists’ coverage by granting accreditation selectively, and by expelling those considered “too negative” about the government."

For it's overall score of indicators: political, economic, legislative, security, Cuba ranks 168 out of 180 countries.

by Anonymousreply 121May 16, 2024 1:50 PM

R121 Cool. I've accepted many times Cuba has problems. So lift the blockade! It'll make it far more difficult to keep unwelcome ideas out.

by Anonymousreply 122May 16, 2024 1:55 PM

R122 You think its fascist government would suddenly begin to relinquish power and control and be more open? What do you base that assumption on?

by Anonymousreply 123May 16, 2024 2:00 PM

R122 And why do you keep pointing fingers at the US?

Cuba–European Union relations

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by Anonymousreply 124May 16, 2024 2:03 PM

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by Anonymousreply 125May 16, 2024 2:15 PM

R125 Hmm, I clicked on the link and read this:

[quote] The EU is Cuba's second most important trading partner (accounting for 20% of total Cuban trade). The EU is the second biggest source of Cuban imports (20%) and was the third most important destination for Cuban exports (21%). The EU is Cuba's biggest external investor. Approximately one third of all tourists visiting the island every year come from the European Union.[7]

Was that what you meant for me to find?

by Anonymousreply 126May 16, 2024 2:18 PM

[quote]The EU is Cuba's second most important trading partner (accounting for 20% of total Cuban trade). The EU is the second biggest source of Cuban imports (20%) and was the third most important destination for Cuban exports (21%). The EU is Cuba's biggest external investor. Approximately one third of all tourists visiting the island every year come from the European Union.[7]

R126 Has that exchange between the EU and Cuba made Cuba's government more open to "unwelcome ideas"? See post R121

by Anonymousreply 127May 16, 2024 2:24 PM

Saint JFK established the Cuban embargo. It would be sacrilegious to remove it.

by Anonymousreply 128May 16, 2024 2:27 PM

Good! The last radical marxist communists in the world left are Joe Biden, his gaspacho administration and his crime family (here look at that dick!) and the libs (what's left of them) who get us out of bed so that we can own them.

by Anonymousreply 129May 16, 2024 2:28 PM

R127 it has facillitated a lot of European visitors to the island in any case.

by Anonymousreply 130May 16, 2024 2:41 PM

I was in Cuba in February for a combination of business and pleasure.

Wonderful people, proud and realistic, victims of a government that is incompetent (and always has been) but supportive of the importance of self-rule and avoiding a return to the colonialism of the past and the corporate colonialism of the present.

Havana is decaying with three building collapses a day, the water is undrinkable, the communist ideal broken with impossible currency issues, the tardiness of food deliveries, and near-universal poverty among all groups. But there is hope and resilience.

I have never felt safer in any city, day and night. The begging is direct and understanding and polite. Americans are appreciated for more than their cash, and they have more sense if detaching the American people from US policy. Trump fucked them over after Obama worked towards normalization. It's impossible for family members to send cash from the US now. The Russian oil imports are slow - lines for 4 liters of petrol extend over a mile on the days when a rumored shipment is arriving.

But of any place I've ever been, including my own family reunions, I've never been treated so kindly by acquaintances and family alike.

Pity Cuba. Work for better policies. The US still stands on Cuba's throat while granting favored-nation status on many countries whose governments are just as totalitarian, duplicitous, cruel and incompetent.

And gay rights are fully accepted in Cuba, just so we all know.

by Anonymousreply 131May 16, 2024 2:57 PM

[quoteTrump fucked them over after Obama worked towards normalization.

Trump? Trump hasn't been President for a few years now.

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by Anonymousreply 132May 16, 2024 4:40 PM

Gay rights are fully accepted? They have come a long way since Reinaldo Arenas, apparently.

by Anonymousreply 133May 16, 2024 9:45 PM

[quote]Gay rights are fully accepted? They have come a long way since Reinaldo Arenas, apparently.

R133 hes right. They have done a massive, massive turnaround

I'm surprised too, and impressed. Well done Cuba, credit where credit is due

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by Anonymousreply 134May 17, 2024 5:49 AM

Raul Castro's daughter (Fidel's niece) Mariela was a leading campaigning figure.

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by Anonymousreply 135May 17, 2024 6:12 AM

^ Civil Rights in Cuba are among the very worst in the world.

Reporters Sans Frontières on civil rights in Cuba:

"Arrests, arbitrary detentions, threats of imprisonment, persecution and harassment, illegal raids on homes, confiscation and destruction of equipment – all this awaits journalists who do not toe the Cuban Communist Party line. "

"The authorities also control foreign journalists’ coverage by granting accreditation selectively, and by expelling those considered “too negative” about the government."

What do "gay rights" in Cuba mean in the context of the bigger picture?

by Anonymousreply 136May 17, 2024 6:22 AM

[quote] "Arrests, arbitrary detentions, threats of imprisonment, persecution and harassment, illegal raids on homes, confiscation and destruction of equipment – all this awaits journalists who do not toe the Cuban Communist Party line. "

It sounds like heaven

by Anonymousreply 137May 17, 2024 6:25 AM

Amnesty International 2023:

"Repression of dissent continued as activists, political opponents and journalists were harassed, persecuted and imprisoned. Human rights defenders faced obstacles and attacks, and some continued to be incarcerated without due process. The economic and humanitarian crisis continued with shortages of food, fuel and electricity."

"Discrimination remained prevalent, affecting Afro-descendants, women and girls, LGBTI people, political dissidents, and members of religious communities."

"Cuba lacked a national human rights institution in compliance with the Paris Principles, the country remained closed to international human rights organizations, and the international media faced obstacles in monitoring the trials of political dissidents."

"Surveillance and harassment of activists, opponents, journalists and artists continued to be widespread. Arbitrary detention and criminal processes without fair trial guarantees remained common and people deprived of liberty faced harsh prison conditions."

by Anonymousreply 138May 17, 2024 6:27 AM

Cuber

by Anonymousreply 139May 17, 2024 1:35 PM

[quote] "Repression of dissent continued as activists, political opponents and journalists were harassed, persecuted and imprisoned. Human rights defenders faced obstacles and attacks, and some continued to be incarcerated without due process. The economic and humanitarian crisis continued with shortages of food, fuel and electricity."

That's good enough.

by Anonymousreply 140May 17, 2024 1:42 PM
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