Jimmy Carter is 'coming to the end,' his grandson says

He was a great president. Smart, fair, kind, and caring. The Repukes were already into their dastardly deeds to smear Democrast and cheat. There is not fair play and respect with them.

When America was greater than it is now, say like after WWII, Carter would have been revered for his integrity and decency.

I'm tearing up a bit thinking about the passing of a decent, honorable man. I'll be a basket case when the funeral is on tv.

May he pass painlessly and without earthly burdens weighing on his heart and mind.

I'm not a religious person, but former President Carter is someone who lived his faith. I respect that.

Good lord, he’s milking the shit out of this. He’s been at death’s door longer than Valerie Harper. Total drama queen.

[QUOTE]He was a great president. Smart, fair, kind, and caring.

He was all of the qualities you mention, however, "great president" is not among them.

He needs to speak out against Trump

In between his moments of sleep. lucidity and grief, do you mean, r7?

May he be greeted with open and warm arms at the Pearly Gates.

He was a great president. No shots fired by the US. A lasting peace in the middle east. Deregulated a ton of industries that needed to be. Smart as hell, hired the right guy Paul Volcker to fix the economy. Volcker warned him that his method would make it worse before it better and Reagan got the credit. And kept Volcker. He championed the environment, mental health, social justice, solar power and peace and told the trilateral commission to fuck off. Of course we're taught he was a bad president.

This again? He ain’t gonna die

The real Walking Dead.

I respect his stubbornness. Should he drop dead now, it would be a bullshit sub plot. If he dies AFTER a verdict is handed down it’s going to be an extravaganza!

Carter is too good of a person to be a politician, someone who actually cares about people who have less than himself, not dishonest & slick enough.

Oh for God's sake, just DIE!

He allowed the Ayatollahs to overthrow the Shahs government in Iran and foment unrest in the Middle East that troubles us to this day. He did literally nothing save some unsuccessful negotiations for six months after they took our diplomats hostages save a pathetic rescue attempt . He was a very decent but weak and naive man.

I grieve for his son Jay-Z Carter and wife Beyonce Knowles-Carter. At least he got to see her dreams of being a famous country singer come true.

R16, there is a theory that was set up by the CIA through George H. W. Bush (who was once its Director) in order to discredit Carter and help Reagan.

Once and for all, HE WAS NOT A GREAT PRESIDENT.

R19 ITA, he has had a long life. Let go and move on.

I am hoping that he makes it to 100 this October.

Yes shortly before the election was the catastrophic attempted saving of the hostages. It was a nightmare and Muslim activists on US campuses were pulling the same shit they are pulling today. Fucking Muslims.

R18 a theory? A THEORY??? Wily diabolical Bush illegally acted as an official government agent to stop the release of the hostages until Reagan took the oath of office. At that exact moment when Reagan raised his hand , the hostages were released.

Iran-Contra

Behind the scenes he was a micromanaging toxic boss with a temper and a corrupt cabinet.

Any adult in the late 1970s would agree that he was an incompetent President.

A good person but a mediocre president. Sorry not sorry.

it's not a theory. The Reagan campaign sent Connally to the MIddle East and the release of the hostages was deliberately delayed until inauguration day when Reagan was sworn in. I remember watching it on TV as a teenager. In our house we loved Jimmy Carter. He was not weak. He was ahead of his time. Way ahead. Russia was already insinuating itself into the Republican camp back then. Carter stood up to Russia and Russia wasfucking around in the Middle East. And if you want to look at failure, look at the CIA . They operated almost independently as far as what was going on in the MIddle East. Nixon and Kissinger completely underestimated what was going on in Iran. They were so far up the Shah's ass they did not give sufficient attention to the Ayatollah in Paris orchestrating the demonstrations and turmoil in Iran. And then there was Russia always meddling and creating chaos in the MIddle East. They hated Carter. Carter acted out of compassion, and was persuaded to help the dying Shah get medical attention by Kissinger, knowing it would be messy. But the CIA failure to understand what was happening on the ground is the biggest underreported failure of that era. It would begreat if you went back and read some books.

Please, God, take me out before I get this old.

Agree, R28. I never want to be so incapacitated . I have seen people in their 90's called "super agers" who still have mobility and still have their brain function. But Mr. Jimmy is 99. I would love to see him get to his 100th birthday, in October, but it sounded like his grandson Jason was preparing us for something that may happen much sooner.

He was a LEGITIMATE Governor.

For the love of Christ, die already!

Can the family just shut up until he’s really dead? This near death Announcements are getting tiresome.

Never forget, a teetotaler loosened up regulations for breweries so that craft brewing could become common and the US is no longer beholden to the anheuser -busch clan

[quote]I am hoping that he makes it to 100 this October.

For what fucking point? To make you feel good? To make him feel good? To reinforce the ridiculousness of birthdays as milestones?

He's been in hospice care since February [bold]2023[/bold]. I don't harbor any ill wishes for him, not any wish to hasten his death, but why think it's some kind of great event if a barely alive man lurches past his 100th birthday?

R27 let the sunlight 🌞 of Truth expose the darkness

Do he have an Only Fans where he fucks 18 year old twinks?

He needs to call for Biden to drop out of the race.

My Jimmy is gonna leave us closer to his birthday in the Fall so he can influence the Georgia PResidential election. He hated Trump. Hated him. Called him an illegitimate PResident and insisted Russia helped steal the election in 2016. I loved him for saying that live on TV. God bless you Mr. Jimmy.

Hopefully, Peanut Man will not have a belabored DC funeral that will fuck up coverage of the POTUS campaigns.

A true American patriot.

I dread Carter's funeral, since we'll see Trump feigning respect and everyone else working at being polite to him.

R41, I doubt if Trump will be invited or crash it the way Ivanka and Jared crashed John McCain’s.

R31: Yes Biden drop dead already!

Lazy, entitled Americans did not respond well to being told by Carter that they should put on a sweater and turn down the thermostat.

So we voted in Ronny Raygun with all of the excess of the 80s. Of course, one of the first things Ronny did was rip those solar panels off the White House roof.

A lot of people were pissed at him for making the US boycott the 1980 Olympics. I wonder if that helped him lose the election that year.

R45 & R44, people were probably angrier at 1) the incredibly high mortgage rates and 2) the 55 mph speed limit than anything else.

r19, re-read r10, very slowly, if need be.

I was hoping he'd make it to 100, but his centennial birthday is not until October.

What a better world it would be if we didn’t end up with the dreadful Reagan.

R47, As a President, he was an an embarrassment.

^Pardon my stutter.

I wonder how many of you saying Carter was a great president were ALIVE when he was.

R46, also he signed away the Panama canal.

Me R52, I also read.

Would be hilarious if Carter’s funeral was a day Trump had to be in court.

R55, Hopefully, it will all occur in Plains and not DC.

He was before by time, but I think he was the last President that actually cared about people to a significant degree and let that influence his decision making. Even the best of the rest that have come after have been extremely guided by political calculations.

r50, as a rebuttal with persuasive, specific examples, your post is an embarrassment.

R52? Apparently [italic]you[/italic] weren't. because if you were, you'd know it's spelled [bold]O'Neill[/bold].

R25

Yes I was alive in the 1970s and we elected giants, except for Carter, back then for president

Nixon and Ford will be long remembered as great presidents of the 1970s.

R60. Huh? Both sucked!!!! Nixon opened China but that’s about it. And Ford did jack shit.

R61

No shit? :-)

OP, Trump disagrees with your assessment of who is the best ex-president. Has Carter been indicted for 91 crimes? Huh? I didn't think so.

Oh were you being sarcastic 62? Hah apologies if so. Sometimes I can’t see sarcasm well.

R58, Carter was weak, inefficient, made poor choices in selecting Cabinet members, had no understanding how Washington politics functioned and was looked upon by international leaders as incompetent.

Telling Americans to turn down their thermostats and put on a sweater was not leadership during an oil crisis that he could not handle.

R60, Really? NIXON and Ford?? Go Fuck Yourself!

He is a good man and I hope his afterlife is one of joy and peace.

R64 I see that unlike R66 you are both smart and have a sense of humor. So sad about R66 who seems to be lacking in both.

The first time I ever voted it was for Jimmy Carter and I've always been proud of that vote. He's a good man and his focus on Human Rights was outstanding. The shit Reagan/Bush pulled later on was disgraceful and led straight to Iran-Contra, for which Reagan should have been impeached and removed from office. TPTB knew it but decided it was too close to Nixon/Watergate and the country wouldn't be able to deal with it so they let him stay on.

The Carter Center is a great legacy. He's held himself with more dignity and grace than most of our former presidents. I hope President Carter leaves instructions that Dump is not to be invited to his funeral. I would hate to see him there.

^ I think because of his kindness, Trump will be allowed to attend....however, I hope that he doesn't as that will be very telling...

+1 on the Carter Center they do a lot of really great work,

Carter will be remembered, honored, and beloved on the Yard for the rest of time, He was their first one..

My MIL is 99 and shows no sign of getting near the bucket, let alone kicking it. She has cancer that we’re not treating (we prefer not to be kicked in the nuts by her good food while trying to wrestle her into an ambulette), but it’s a slow growing cancer, so she’s got years to go.

I was alive. I worked on Carter's campaign. I still think of him as "my" President. I am very proud of the fact I helped get him elected. Read R10 and R27.

He will kick the bucket on Friday, so all the media attention will be on him and not Trump attending Barron's graduation. That will rip Trump to shreds. Or he will die on May 19, the 30th anniversary of Jackie O's death.

Shame, I was wanting him to make 100. He does seem to have been unusually decent for someone who made it to the top of US politics. Weren't he and his wife the only two votes (or two of a very small number) in favour of integrating their church in Georgia? I'd say it was a tragedy for the US gay community that he lost to Reagan in 1980.

I wonder if his last words will be "Bonnie Franklin was damn good actress" ?

R73 = LOSER

He was not a great president. Under his watch America experienced an Energy Crisis, the fall of the shah, the Iranian Revolution, the coming to power of Khomeini, the Hostage Crisis, a spectacular and deadly rescue attempt, uneven economic growth, and high inflation.

He was a disaster as POTUS.

Carter was a great former president.

One achievement of his presidency was a change in policy towards Latin America, which led to the fall of many dictatorships there.

[Quote] Under his watch America experienced.... the fall of the shah, the Iranian Revolution, the coming to power of Khomeini

The reasons nations undergo these kinds of revolutions are many and very complex. It might be better if Americans didn't view it as their government's place or responsibility to try and control the affairs of other nations. Who knows, perhaps if the US hadn't engineered the overthrow of Mosaddegh in 1953 and replaced him with the fabulously corrupt Shah, it wouldn't have had the Ayatollah to deal with twenty years later.....

R79, you are right. But we cannot go back and change the past. We can only learn from it. Sadly, we haven't in many ways. Look at American support of Saudi Arabia. It will blow up one day.

Still, all that happened in Iran in 1979 happened under Carter's watch.

He was elected because of Nixon and lost because of Iran, the Energy Crisis, and the general state of the economy

Carter was reluctant but was persuaded by Henry Kissinger to take the Shah in for medical treatment, and the whole fucking mess came to a head with Nixon and Kissinger. Please keep in mind the energy crisis was a manipulation by the Oil cartel, in the MIddle East and the invisible hand of Russia.

Trump attended Bush’s funeral, so I suspect he’ll be in attendance for Carter’s.

Trump was “president” back then r82. He won’t attend. It will be akin to attending the inauguration.

Nah, R83. It’s not akin to going to the inauguration of the man who “stole” the presidency from him.

Jimmy Carter made no secret of his disgust with Trump. Jimmy wouldn't want him there. I suspect Jimmy Carter will have a funeral similar to Rosalynn's but with a stop in Washington D.C. They will have him lie in state for maybe a day and a night, then fly him back to Atlanta where he will lie in state at either the state Capital building or the Carter Center, then the funeral at his church. It's been 44 years since he was POTUS.Al Gore, the Clintons, the Obamas, the Bushes, and representatives from the Johnson and Nixon families, maybe a Reagan, but definite the Fords will be t here. No Trump. Jimmy said he was illegitimate. He said it outloud.

R80 Out of interest, what do you think Carter should have done differently re: Iran?

Bush had zero love for Trump, either, especially after how he treated his boys, yet insisted that he be not excluded from his funeral. Melania wasn’t excluded from Rosalynn’s funeral & Donald won’t be excluded from Jimmy’s.

R86 Supposedly the rescue mission to get the hostages had some internal sabotage with the helicopters. Later the Reagan campaign secretly made an agreement with the Iranians to not release the hostages to help Carter lose and to wait until Reagan was in office. Yet another example of Republicans treasonous actions.

He killed enough Guinea worms for any one man, he built many a house, but is it enough to make up for wrecking Afghanistan and the incredible misery he and that piece of shit fucker Zbig inflicted on an innocent nation just to get back at the Soviets and play their childish geopolitical games

Wrecking Afghanistan? WTF, Boris! He ran Russia's ass out of Afghanistan and they never forgave us for it. They wanted the gas and mineral deposits. Russia INVADED Afghanistan. 'kay? We helped arm them and push the Russians out.

R88 yes indeed- hence I'm asking if there was anything, out of the things he could control, which Carter should have done differently?

R87, you misunderstand. Dump won’t be excluded but he won’t go. He’s not top dog like he was at the Bush funeral. He’ll be shoved to the side. R84 what I meant was it was akin to going to the inauguration as a loser and second banana. He won’t be prez, he will be among people who think he’s a piece of shit.

I doubt it, at least on Iran. The Shah and US involvement in Iran was not of his making. He tried to mitigate and resolve the situation, but he was seen as an ineffective leader because the rescue failed. Had the rescue been successful, he most likely would have been reelected in 1980.

The man has been dying for the last 20 years. He will outlive us all. Just like my mom.

I doubt it. Sounds like he's in his last days. It's not likely that he'll live past May.

[quote]Not our best president, but by far our best ex-president.

What the hell does that mean?

I’ll take the contrary view. I believe he was a good president, one whose presidency will only look better as time goes one. But, although his lengthy ex-presidency was more ambitious than most, with solid achievements, I think he was a better president than an ex-president.

The former president's life is peacefully moving towards its close.

How can we miss you, Jimmy, when you won’t leave?

He was a fine, good-hearted man. He’s earned his peaceful end. Thank you, sir.

He understood that holding public office is a stewardship, not an ego trip. I think someone from the Trump family will show up. Because ...Georgia...election campaign. My guess is that Ivanka and Jared will go.

He was not a good president, but not as horrible as he was made put to be.

R90 the plan was to turn Afghanistan into Russia's Vietnam.

Nobody gave a shit about the Afghanis, including you, asshole.

Are you going to repeat all that once he is really, really dead?

R78

And based on your insight and analysis FDR was also a bad president because under his watch WW2 happened. Far worse than what ever happened in the world under carters watch.

Europe went up in flames. Asia went up in flames. FDR then led the US into the war and then he could not even win it. Truman had to save us.

Now I sound as dumb as you

[quote]Once and for all, HE WAS NOT A GREAT PRESIDENT.

We heard you the first time, Dee Plorable.

The Carters refused to serve liquor at White House state dinners and they would end them long before midnight.

Two things Nancy Reagan changed immediately.

It bears repeating, R106, so I will.

Once and for all, HE WAS NOT A GREAT PRESIDENT.

R108

Don’t be a silly goose. You don’t NEED CAPS. You also don’t need to keep repeating yourself. But the CAPS may be a bridge too far

Jimmy Connors was a great democrat president, I'll give him that. Not like that Obama we have today in the White House.

And you don’t need to “like” your own posts, R109.

R111

I have never understood this like business. Does it get you a prize at some point? Although I do see that I have 2 and you have 0.

Don’t feel bad just do better

Ted Knight says it best.

[quote]Two things Nancy Reagan changed immediately.

Did the other thing involve White House blowjobs?

Nancy had candy dishes of pills at the California governors mansion

R114 Nancy Davis was a regular at the White House glory hole. Ronny was busy in the corner counting his jellybeans.

Nancy would put ROnnie down for his nap so she could have "lunch" in the residence with Frank Sinatra. Frnka loved the idea of America's First Lady on her knees blowing him in the White House.

R117, Nancy had practice…lots of it.

Mr. Jimmy, he gonna die soon....how long? ...not long.

DL where gay men make fun of people that like to give blow jobs

It sounds like it would be the Onion but it’s the DL

LMAO at r113!

And I write this as having enormous respect for Carter.

R1 I understand what you are saying, but “smart kind, fair and caring” make for a good man. While good qualities for a president, they do not add up to a great or even good president. For a oresident, or any elected office holder it comes down to hard skills: what do you know, what have you done and what can you do? We have to stop electing people based on their personality. We need the best abd the brightest, but not necessarily the nicest. If Richard Nixon were alive and well today and eligible, I’d vote for him, dirty tricks and all. I wouldn’t shake his hand, but I’d vote for him.

[quote] If Richard Nixon were alive and well today and eligible, I’d vote for him, dirty tricks and all. I wouldn’t shake his hand, but I’d vote for him.

You don't think Nixon-imposed wage & price controls wreaked great havoc on the economy throughout the '70s?

[quote]Mr. Jimmy, he gonna die soon....how long? ...not long.

Reporters probably keeps asking if he's dead yet.

Is there a media death watch outside his house?

Is there a big difference between Nixon and Trump?

I don’t think Trump is the hater of Jewish people like Nixon was. And I don’t think Trump is the homophobe Nixon was. Although

And VN one found a way to avoid and one found a way to ruin the one really good chance we had for peace or a stand down in VN because he did not want the Dems to get credit so he promised secretly a better deal if he was elected and then left the SVN out to dry when they needed him. Trump never pulled that shit. Trump knew he was not up to that jungle fighting.

Of course there should be no shame aimed at anyone professing their support for the likes of Nixon or Trump as R122 has.

[quote] I don’t think Trump is the hater of Jewish people like Nixon was. And I don’t think Trump is the homophobe Nixon was.

I'm no Nixon defender, but I don't think this is an apples to apples comparison. The two were from very different generations.

R126, Richard M. Nixon was a statesman.

Well Trump is a statesman as well.

Nixon would have never felt confident to have a one on one private conversation , with no staff present for either, with Putin.

Just think of the statesman like shit Trump and Putin were discussing. Nixon would have never attempted to do that.

How old are you, R129?

Re: R129, Putin and Trump especially would have used their fluent foreign language skills to discuss global affairs. No need at all for any translators, let alone high-ranking foreign affairs cabinet members.

Just two reliable world-class statesmen, intent on making the world a better safer place. One need only look at how events unfolded subsequently to realise the mutual affinity and productive nature of their summit meeting.

R131

You might think they were conversing in Russian but they did have one translator. But no staff. Especially no senior staff.

I have no doubt they never discussed the Ukraine

r108 doesn't understand the concept of supporting a statement with specific, concise, credible examples and sources. Now r108, run back to the children's table and let the adults continue the discussion.

Back in 1957, someone told R133 that she was witty, and R133 actually believed them.

Is he dead?

The year is 2056. Jimmy Carter is not long for this world, says his great-great-grandson...

He coulda run for president this year and probably won.

He's outlived Dabney Coleman!

Let’s just accept that he’s immortal.

Talk about milking it.

On October 1st he’ll be 100. Any bets if he’ll make it?

I hope they do everything they can to help him reach his 100th birthday. If he dies in October it will also be good for the Democratic Ticket. People will be reminded what real PResidents do, not some blowhard fascist clown.

The words “real President” and Jimmy Carter should never appear in the same sentence.

Shut the fuck up r143

Jimmmmmaaaayyyyy!!!!

R143 I used plural:Presidents: You'll have people present who respected to office and loved their country, however misguided they may have been and even some I disagreed with. Trump never pretended t o understand the PResidency.

While living to 100 would be nice, his quality of life at this point is terrible. I prefer he goes soon rather than lingering on.

The longest lifespan of a president was George H W Bush at age 94. Jimmy Carter already has that beat by 5 years.

This man is going to outlive us all.

Bear in mind he was diagnosed with brain and liver cancer at 90. He's now nearing 100. It reminds me of Rose Kennedy: she had a stroke when she was 93. If your 93-year-old granny had a stroke, you'd be almost certain it was the end. Instead, she lived another eleven years.

How many times has he died, so far?

I think it’s really bad taste for the grandson to be walking around with a shovel

If you're interested in R143's posting history, you'll find how he hates Carter, loves Nixon (and probably has a tattoo with his name on his back) and roots for Trump. I nailed him the moment he wrote "the Ukraine" as the MAGAts like to say, as if it was a province, more specifically a Russian province, instead of "Ukraine" as you would say for any country. These people just can't hide.

R143 is meth head Roger Stone, basically.

[quote]Once and for all, HE WAS NOT A GREAT PRESIDENT.

[quote]Any adult in the late 1970s would agree that he was an incompetent President.

[quote]For the love of Christ, die already!

[quote]Hopefully, Peanut Man will not have a belabored DC funeral that will fuck up coverage of the POTUS campaigns.

[quote]R41, I doubt if Trump will be invited or crash it the way Ivanka and Jared crashed John McCain’s.

[quote]R47, As a President, he was an an embarrassment.

[quote]R58, Carter was weak, inefficient, made poor choices in selecting Cabinet members, had no understanding how Washington politics functioned and was looked upon by international leaders as incompetent. Telling Americans to turn down their thermostats and put on a sweater was not leadership during an oil crisis that he could not handle.

[quote]Once and for all, HE WAS NOT A GREAT PRESIDENT.

[quote]R126, Richard M. Nixon was a STATESMAN.

[quote]The words “real President” and Jimmy Carter should never appear in the same sentence.

FROM THE TREASON THREAD

[quote]R331, Clinton was a public servant at the time, Trump was not.

[quote]R359, The prosecution has yet to name the “crime”...

[quote]R362/R363, Absolutely nothing to with this “hush money” circus of a “trial”.

[quote]R375, Yes, four years in the White House.

[quote]R383 seems to be speaking of Bill Clinton.

[quote]Stormy lost the case for the prosecution on Tuesday with her testimony.

ff & ignore

You appear to be obsessed, R153.

Another lonely holiday weekend for you, I see.

Pity.

A bit much, R153.

You know, I have one observation to make and it's a general, but one Carter and other Dems usually get criticized for. Government regulation. Well, if our corporate citizens were responsible good citizens instead of shady, underhanded slime, we wouldn't need to regulate them. They wouldn't dump toxic waste into our rivers and streams. They would have safety measures for workers in their factories, they would not contaminate our food supplies with pesticides and pollute our air with carcinogens. They'd pay taxes and a living wage.

A good man. He will be remembered and spoken about with great respect.

why the fuck is the grandson even speaking to the press? He's a gossip monger! can't be trusted with secrets!

Our Jimmy has been coming to an end for over 99 years - we all leave sometime!

Patsy has spoken

Fun fact, when (if) Carter eventually dies the oldest living person to have been sworn in as President will then be.....

Joe Biden.

I don't think you quite know how fun facts work. That would only be a fun fact if Biden was even older than Carter.

Jimmy pulled American support of the Shah at the worst possible time. His damned self righteousness handed over Iran to the Ayatollahs with the consequence ignored by the loving media that the blood of every one of he millions killed directly and indirectly by the Iranian regime is on Jimmy's hands. That's 45 years of slaughter and counting.

America couldn't wait to kick his incompetent ass out of the White House. None of his post presidency PR work changes that.

R163 Oh, believe me, I am extensively acquainted with fun facts. It's a fun fact that Biden is older than Clinton who was President 30 years ago. And it makes it even more fun when you realise that Trump is, too.

If only it were you coming to an end instead, R163.

R163, Kissinger and Nixon gave Jimmy the "gift" of the Shah. By then he was dying and Carter allowed him to get needed medical treatment. The true failure was the CIA's intelligence failure to completely mis assess and under estimate the demonstrations leading up to the Shah's overthrow and not recognizing the threat of the cleric on the balcony in Paris urging his supporters togo after the Devil and the Americans who propped him up. Our intel and our state department that continued supporting the Shah, fucked up big time and that is on Kissinger and Nixon's doorstep, especially Kissinger who was an overrated pompous asshole. It is not unusual for PResidents to inherit other PResident's fuck ups.

Two months later and he’s still coming.

[quote] Two months later and he’s still coming.

Just like when we were married. Sweet memories.

He's sticking around to replace Biden.

Hey, Jimmy... Time to go

[quote] He's sticking around to replace Biden.

Well, he, like Trump, has another four years of eligibility.

His grandson is like the political Grim Reaper. Quit hovering, allow the man to die in peace then go running to the press. Every few months he comes out with the same announcement.

Jimmy has officially outlived Biden's campaign. Impressive.

I think Jimmy Carter will die before the election.

This isn't a good year for Democrats.

Is there any, I hate to say this, but is there any timing that could, you know, help Democrats or hurt Republicans?

Why do you think he’s holding on, R174? Living to make sure Trump never reaches the White House again is what drives him. He will die after the election, when he’s 100 years old, with a big smile on his face.

[quote] I think Jimmy Carter will die before the election.

If he did die before the election, I thought that would give Biden a good forum to eulogize Carter (he was the first senator to endorse his '76 candidacy). Now I wonder if Kamala would be given a speaking role if we have a pre-election funeral.

What are his days like? Is he in pain?

Doubtful. Hospice has him all morphined up.

[quote]R8: In between his moments of sleep. lucidity and grief, do you mean, [R7]?

Nothing like a snipe who doesn't know English fucking up her high-tone manner.

Speaking out against Trump WOULD be something appropriate in a moment of lucidity, cunt.

Oh, dear.

Ah ayam ready to run agin.

Jimmy will die in October just after he turns 100. The World, especially America will stop for a moment. It will pause to remember a truly decent man. And Joe, Kamala, Barack, and Bill will speak It'll be better than a pep rally. Jimmy wants to die at a time it will help get out the vote. He's our October surprise.

A baby born the year Carter left office would be 43 today.

He’s become irrelevant.

Has MTG commented yet?

Dayum! That is one tough old bird. Shit.

The only good thing Nixon ever did was start the EPA. China should have remained hidden.

Nixon started the Section 8 Voucher program too R186, which I think is a good thing.

We could maybe even say that Democrat one-termers, (Truman*, JFK*, LBJ*, Carter, Biden) turned out to be better Presidents than Democrat two-termers (Clinton, Obama). Discuss.

*Give or take a few fractions.

R188 FDR? Clinton and Obama had huge successes. Obama, in particular, was burdened by inheriting the Great Recession. It forever changed what could have been. He never got to fight for his true agenda, and what he got accomplished was monumental. The 2nd term “lame duck” name stuck for a reason.

Truman and LBJ were not two termeds. They each served 2 terms even if not full 4 year terms. Carter was not a great President. He’s been a very good ex president for sure.

Two termers…

Truman served just a few months short of eight years.

R190 Carter was much better than he’s given credit for. He inherited a crap economy from Nixon/Ford. He has a good job growth and GDP. He appointed the guy who eventually tamed inflation due to Nixon/Ford.

R190 Well technically both of them could have been elected to and served another full term (though in Truman's case not with the rules currently in place I believe).

In 1952, Truman WAS, like Biden, running for re-election until he didn’t. His administration was exempted by the then-new constitutional amendment prohibiting presidents from serving two terms in office. LBJ only served 14 months of JFK’s unfinished term, so, although subject to the amendment, he was eligible to run for re-election in 1968.

Harry Truman’s approval rating was only 31% when he left office in 1953.

Like Jimmy Carter, Truman’s legacy improved over time.

When he exits this mortal coil Pres. Carter should receive a send off worthy of a Pope. No other Chief Executive in the history of America has done more good for humanity than him.

R197, Including, producing a son with a big dick.

I'm almost 60 years old and he was the only US president of my lifetime who wasn't a war criminal.

R179 is unaware that a person does not live this long in hospice care if morphine is being dispensed.

Hey, R199, when you return to Earth from Planet Precious perhaps you can cut the useless, pointless quibbling over what power means and requires.

Being a cunt does not make you exempt from a rational orientation to the world. Equating war with war criminality will get you nowhere except appropriate dismissal. Save your bullshit for your two-legged rescue opossums.

I didn't know that R187. It is a good thing. I have had to use it and it was a lifesaver.

[quote]Jimmy Carter is 'coming to the end,'

The end of what?

Morphine kills the pain and if enough is administered it puts you under but it does not keep you alive. That body of his is not going to let go.

Unless he is given an overdose of morphine purposely by a Dr. when they figure what's the point of hanging on like this. Of course it's not legal but the law looks away.

Jimmy is a corpse tease.

I how he doesn’t die during the convention. He is a decent man but was not a great president.

He's gonna hang on until his 100th birthday in October.

R200. R179 is not saying he has been on morphine his entire time in hospice care.

R169 When we said a corpse over Trump we meant it!

Still with this we're talking???

As long as he's alive we're going to keep talking.

And we'll increase the volume when he's gone!

R203 The end of the rainbow Rose.

Now shut the fuck up you airhead!!!

It's now just 70 days (or 10 weeks) to his 100th b-day.

He’ll make it. Then just a few weeks more to see the White House door slam on Donald Trump’s face. He’ll make that, too.

And... he's dead.

Still no thread on his death on DL yet.

[quote]Still no thread on his death on DL yet.

Because he's not dead.

The long, long, long, long, long, long, looooooooooooong goodbye.

I think Mr. Jimmy wants to vote for Kamala and he is hanging on until he gets his absentee ballot filled out.

[quote] I think Mr. Jimmy wants to vote for Kamala and he is hanging on until he gets his absentee ballot filled out.

It's illegal to cast votes for dead people.

I'm not dead. You're dead!

I'm still dead, bitches!

I wonder how long the media outlets have had their obituaries ready for. I think there were pre-prepared obituaries for the Queen Mother back in the 60s.

R224 😆 you are such a mafucker.

[quote] I wonder how long the media outlets have had their obituaries ready for.

Since his presidency.

Geez, you guys are just as gullible as Republicans 😂

I hope Carter dies shortly before the election and Trump and Vance will say something really nasty that turns the last undecided voters off.

I just don't want him to die in a Trump administration. I don't want to die in a Trump administration.

For R216. And Mike Lee.

Is he dead yet?

R231 is Jimmy's thirsty grandson, just aching to break the news!

Anyone know if these old old historical figures outlived most of their children?

I'll outlive you, you little cunt!

Is he dead yet?

Rosalynn you will be the first to know.

Hunny, Rosalynn is sitting with him right now, whispering in his ear, "Now Jimmy, you have to hang on a little longer. You have to help the Democrats win this election, because that orange turd is going to throw everything he's got at them. We're going to give you a wonderful funeral and everybody is gonna come and speak. We'll do it just after your 100th birthday, but before the election. Now you just hang on!"

That man has outlived three different sets of tits for Kim Kardashian. He and Liza chat on the phone every day - with one another, but not really WITH one another if you know what I mean.

This is beginning to seem like the Cher Farewell Tour.

I love you, R237.

Still kickin'?

Is Jimmy putting a diamond stud in his navel again?

He's waiting to find out who will be Kamala's VP.

Were plannin' some big musical event here in the ATL for Mr. Jimmy. Prolly before his actual birthday. So he better stay well and shit, because were puttin' lots of work inta it If he makes it his100th will be in October. He wants to be Kamala's "October Surprise." Huge funeral. Biggest you ever seen.

God bless Jimmy Carter.

Jimmy Carter Told Son Why He Wants to Live Past 100: 'I'm Only Trying to Make It to Vote for Kamala Harris':

He’s been doing this “woe is me, pay attention to me” campaign for what, five years now. Total drama queen. He needs to shit or get off the pot.

Georgia law doesn't address whether absentee/mail ballots from voters who die before Election Day are to be counted.

R245 I love him. Imagine if he were re-elected. Dumb American cunts.

R247 =

This is the longest most drawn out death

He is going to bury us all. We'll have to stifle him with a sofa pillow.

Countdown to Jimmy Carter's 100th birthday

[quote]He’s been doing this “woe is me, pay attention to me” campaign for what, five years now. Total drama queen. He needs to shit or get off the pot.

And you're a total asshole. I assume your post was meant to be funny. It wasn't.

Why did it take him so long to endorse Kamala?

Sometimes people in hospice rally and seem almost back to their normal selves right before they die.

He's on his death bed R255. Endorsing Kamala is probably not the first thing on his mind.

R256 and the rest of you, can I just say, I have taken care of and watched my elderly grandparents die, my parents, anuncle, and a stray aunt or two. The Jimmy Carter I saw at Rosalynn's funeral, isn't saying shit to anyone. He's probably in a near vegetative state. My guess is right now he is being "fed" by a hose in his stomach, for liquid nutrition, and has lost the ability to swallow. He probably has those compression sleeves on his legs to aid circulation and prevent blood clots, and a catheter for urine output. He's very likely been intubated so he can keep breathing and may have even undergone a tracheotomy so they can put him on a ventilator and remove it as needed to deal with occlusions. As his nephew said in an earlier report, "he sleeps a lot." My guess is that he'll get "help" filling out his ballot. But I am sure if he could speak, which I highly doubt, he would endorse Kamala, and he would vote for her.

Agreed, R258. As much as I have come to love Jimmy, this reminds me of the story Nancy Reagan told of the long-demented Ronnie looking up at her with clear, focused eyes in his last breath.

Carter voting for Harris is like Coolidge being alive to vote against Carter in the 1976 election.

Hospice nurses will tell you that the "pre-death rally," even if paradoxical or inexplicable, is real. Not every patient has one, but sometimes people who've been completely out of it and essentially "dead to the world" for days will wake up with clarity and energy for a day or two, then die.

R261 I am very spiritual and I believe they have died already but in their new life have manifested the energy to reconnect with loved ones for the final goodbye of the physical death. I don’t mean new life as in re-incarnation. I mean new life as in the next dimension after this one.

(Rolls eyes)

r258 I know you have personal experience with end of life symptoms in loved ones but you can't say that for Mr. Carter with 100% certainty.

IMHO he'll pull through to late Sept. or his 100th in October. The man is far more robust than anybody gives him credit for! :-)

Finally his paper ballot has come in so I can pull the plug on him tomorrow.

R264, you're right of course. I was just going by the way he looked at the funeral, and that lower jaw hanging open all slack.

R266 That is mostly mouth breathing. My dad developed that his last couple of years.

Obviously this has been going on a long time. It happened to my father who said to me in his hospital bed shortly before he died, "I don't want to have too much hope but I feel good today."

What is really interesting it happens to the character of Violetta in Verdi's opera La Traviata where just before she dies she is suddenly filled with a moment of energy and thinks she is going to live. I think Carter is not going to have that moment. It sounds like from R258 he is being tortured. He is artificially being kept alive. They should allow him to let go. It seems cruel.

I will laugh my ass off if the attention whore grandson goes before Jimmy.

R262 that is because you are absolutely, clinically insane, TeaCake

[quote] Jimmy Carter’s grandson says his grandfather’s ‘engaged in the news’ as he approaches 100th birthday

Jason Carter, former President Jimmy Carter’s eldest grandson, said his grandfather is “really physically diminished” after spending over 18 months in hospice care, but he’s still keeping tabs on the 2024 election as he approaches his 100th birthday.

Jason Carter told USA TODAY the former president “doesn't do much on his own physically” these days. But in recent months, “he's really gotten more engaged in the news and what's sort of going on around the family.”

“He obviously is following American politics. He's following the situation in Gaza. Those are both things that are very close to his heart,” he added.

Carter's continued focus on the Middle East doesn't come as a surprise. During his term in the White House, the former president helped forge the Camp David Accords, paving the way for a peace deal between Israel and Egypt. The Carter Center, the international humanitarian organization Jimmy Carter and former first lady Rosalynn Carter established in the 1980s, called for a cease-fire in Gaza last year in the war between Israel and Hamas.

But domestically, the former president has also told family that, as he’s approaching his milestone 100th birthday on Oct. 1, he’s hoping to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris in the pivotal 2024 election.

Earlier this month, Jason Carter, chair of the Carter Center's Board of Trustees, addressed the Democratic convention, saying the former president wished he could have attended the convention in Chicago, but felt Harris has carried on his legacy.

Jason Carter said Thursday it’s a message he wanted to share this year because “My grandfather's legacy, in politics, has been one first and foremost of integrity and honesty and a desire to respect people from across all parts of the political divides and the country.”

He also criticized former President Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, accusing him of abandoning those values.

“Bringing people together and telling the truth and facing the facts for real and putting regular people at the center of the story is what my grandfather has been about. And for me, it's what Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are about,” Jason Carter said.

Jason Carter said Harris called the Carter family multiple times after Jimmy Carter entered hospice care and Rosalynn Carter’s death last year: “Not as a politician, but just as somebody who is extending her condolences and appreciation and admiration.”

“She wasn't getting a supporter by calling me, but it did just show a level of humanity and empathy that I appreciated personally,” he added.

The Democratic convention isn't the only major event the Carter family has planned for this year.

The Carter Center is holding a concert on Sept. 17 honoring the former president’s milestone birthday, which will include musicians ranging from D-Nice to the Drive-By Truckers and the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra Chamber Chorus.

Won't his early vote for Kamala be invalidated if he dies before election day? That would be awkward

Like the majority of states, Georgia has no law pertaining to the counting of early votes of voters who die before Election Day.

r273 Thanks, I always found it strange (and gross) that some states have those laws.

This man been dying for 2 centuries. He a vampire. He is Brat.

Jason must be planning another run for governor.

Jason?

ENOUGH!

“I’ll Be Home For Christmas”

R273 You can probably count the number of early voters in each state who died before election day on two hands.

R279 I don’t care. Right is right.

When he dies nobody will say. 'I thought he was already dead.'

Pitter patter, let's get at 'er.

27 days to 100. Go Jimmy!