Kevin Spacey Documentary Lands at Max, ID for U.S. Release

Spacey is a monster. Datalounge knew the truth about him and called him out before the mainstream media did

We already know.

Now they’re just piling on.

Well, the word is out. The guy is amorous. Approach at your own risk. Like PePe LePew.

Frisky, one might say.

He's a creep and has been for decades

R2, tell that to the fanboys and fangirls who defend him

What's obvious to you isn't obvious to everyone

Even Michael Jackson has defenders and that guy was a classic pedophile

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He still has cultists. There was some street art on a construction site near Carnaby Street in London a few years ago depicting Spacey crucified on a cross. I'm surprised I didn't end up in casualty for rolling my eyes so much.

He sounds like a real pervert. Anyone have his number?

Yawn.

Given the UK’s libel laws, don’t expect much in this.

Spacey can use the same libel lawyers as Russell Brand after C4's expose on him

If Brad Pitt did the same things, these men would regale us with tales of how sexy they were that Brad hit on them.

I prefer handsy and rapey R4!

What a load of horseshit R14.

[quote]Now they’re just piling on.

And more will follow after the broadcast, not all of them fantasists. I imagine though Rupert Graves will choose to maintain a dignified silence.

I hope Rupert Graves speaks out. And certain other actors.

Spacey is portraying himself as the victim

damn -- he looks awful.

He's never been attractive

Ugly on the inside and the outside

New allegations will be featured in docu-series.

“I felt like I was staring at a soulless monster,” Daniel, an actor, says of his alleged sexual assault by Kevin Spacey in a new Channel 4 documentary promising a “forensic look” at the Oscar winner’s rise to stardom and his alleged sexual misconduct.

Spacey Unmasked features 10 men, Daniel among them, to tell their stories of alleged abuse at the hands of Spacey. None of them were involved in the London trial that saw the actor acquitted of nine charges in July 2023, and all but one have never spoken out before. The charges stemmed from alleged acts that occurred from 2001 to 2013; Spacey was artistic director of London’s Old Vic Theatre from 2004 until 2015.

[quote]Each time I have been given the time and a proper forum to defend myself, the allegations have failed under scrutiny and I have been exonerated.

In which case the actor will have recourse to legal action against the broadcaster and its programme participants for making such allegations.

He has never sued anyone for defamation, not any of the dozens of guys who spoke out. Because they're not lying.

New article

Oh my god I cringed so hard at this paragraph

[quote]Now, Spacey Unmasked — a two-part documentary from British broadcaster Channel 4 — is delving into his allegedly inappropriate and exploitative behavior, covering accusations that span five decades. The documentary is a crucial entry into the conversation around male victims of sexual misconduct — and highlights how men haven’t yet developed a vocabulary to describe or process these situations. “Men are not used to discussing this, talking about this, naming it, or giving it language,” says executive producer Mike Lerner. “One of our hopes is that after this series goes out, there will be more people realizing that they should and can speak out about what’s happened to them.”

Men have never used the terms dirty old man, predatory homosexual, groper, sex pest, rapist, bully, casting couch etc.

JFC

He’s just misunderstood.

[quote]“Men are not used to discussing this..."

The sentence might usefully have included the word 'publicly', also, 'about famous double Oscar-winning actors.'

However, some men publicly discussed the predatory behaviour of (eventually jailed) Jonathan King, whose MO seemed not unlike Spacey's. Also, many men have in recent years painfully spoken out about how abuse at their schools ruined lives, and was ignored or covered up for decades. Public discussion about such predation is more open now.

A young straight actor has said that Spacey tried to finger him through his suit trousers on the press night of Sweet Bird Of Youth, back in June 2013.

if you want to get around the paywall open it on your iPhone and tap Show Reader and you can read it all

He said he had heard rumours about Spacey taking a shine to younger actors.

Everyone knew about Spacey. Everyone.

The paper for the above link has front-paged the story as an exclusive, complete with big picture of Spacey. Another strong publicity boost for Channel 4's Monday broadcast.

This idiot went on Dan Wooten to plead his case. Two harassers chit-chatting.

Douglas Murray has also defended Spacey, despite Spacey being a paid up Democrat hack.

There is a reflex instinct from the anti woke people to defend anyone accused of anything vaguely "woke", like sexual assault.

That should read ‘There is a reflex instinct from the anti woke people to defend anyone accused of anything vaguely "ANTI woke", like sexual assault.’

Spacey probably sniffs and licks his fingers after taking them out of a guys ass.

Dan Wootten? LOL

Airs in the UK tonight

First testimony is from an actor who played a security officer on House Of Cards - Spacey assaulted him during a take.

Second testimony a sexual assault in 1981 in NYC

Third testimony is a very hot straight ex marine turned aspiring actor who was introduced to Spacey in the late 90s

WHAT KIND OF SICK PERVERT MASTURBATES IN A CINEMA DURING THE OPENING SCENES OF SAVING PRIVATE RYAN?!?!

Someone who grew up in a house full of Nazi regalia?

Testimony 4 - young production assistant working on The Big Kahuna, which Spacey also produced.

Another straight guy, another guy who knew complaining would ruin his career.

There is a pattern.

Testimony 5 - former marine and aspiring actor Travis Wade who declined Spacey's affections.

Testimony 6 - a college friend of Spacey's, a straight boy a year younger than Spacey he knew from the school theatre group

Just finished the first episode. I had no idea what to expect.

Very powerful. The tone is solemn and respectful. The stories are convincing and upsetting.

Testimony 7 - a pretty twink working in the Old Vic selling ice creams during a performance who Spacey crept up and rubbed his crotch in the twink's face. The assaults continued for a while.

This is the most upsetting one so far. A real abuse of power.

I hope this documentary finally, completely kills Spacey's career. He is a monster.

Testimony 8 and 9 - two acting students (one British one American) who Spacey found during the Old Vic's programme for young actors. Inappropriate relationships with no sexual assault accusations.

Testimony 10 - a young actor in the Sweet Bird Of Youth production Spacey assaulted at the press night. He sexually assaulted a young actor after buying him an expensive gift.

Gd'Damit! I have been told many time I look a lot like this guy. Now my reputation is soiled.

Did he steal Robert Redford’s ugly hairpiece? He looks like a wrinkled potato with a dishcloth on his head.

Horrible vile man.

Such a long pattern of abusive and predatory behavior and as the hot ex marine said, what happened to the guys who didn't fight him off or did respond to his advances in expectation of something that would benefit their career.

Are there are any well known Spacey "boys"? There was the security guard from House Of Cards who got a bigger role and I think went to Wimbledon with Spacey.

What's really chilling is the clip of Spacey talking about his important role as leader on the House of Cards set. If he sees anyone treating people disrespectfully he "will call them on it".

Psycho.

I remember the insider here who posted about the House of Cards set. He had all the dirt about Spacey being a pig

Mention of Wimbledon reminds me that Spacey for a while followed Andy Murray from tournament to tournament.

Interesting that the programme didn't mention Spacey's night cruising episode in a park near The Old Vic. After which the great actor performed in a press conference with a story no-one believed, but somehow kept the show on the road.

Does anyone remember the "A Cry For Help: The Taking of Kevin Spacey's Phone" thread? It popped up after Kevin's "mugging" escapade in the park

Hee hee. I remember it r55

Did he touch their taint?

Good review

I just watched Part 1. It’s compelling.

Spacey brought the young marine to a theater in LA to see Saving Private Ryan and he jerked off next to the poor kid. And this was in the first 20 minutes of the film which depicted the gruesome carnage during the invasion of Normandy.

Spacey is/was one sick puppy.

Nothing makes me hornier than dead soldiers!

[quote]Interesting that the programme didn't mention Spacey's night cruising episode in a park near The Old Vic. After which the great actor performed in a press conference with a story no-one believed, but somehow kept the show on the road.

Popbitch covered this story - he wasn’t cruising…..

In 2004, Kevin Spacey's ludicrous tale of tripping over his dog in the park in the middle of the night was given an airing live on the BBC's Today. Newspapers and TV all sniggered when covering it but, aside from a few inverted commas in their copy, his version of events (which was such obvious horseshit) went unchallenged. Long-time Popbitch readers will remember that we gave you the real story: Spacey picked up a star- struck waiter, took him for drinks (in the bar below our office, no less) pushed his luck a little too far and got a punch in the chops for his troubles. Yet no-one picked it up, affording Spacey another 13 years of blind eyes and turned heads.

[quote]he wasn’t cruising

[quote]Spacey's ludicrous tale of tripping over his dog in the park

Long ago now, but I thought there were additional details involving a young man in the park at night, and a mobile phone. The police were somehow involved, meaning Spacey's account needed to be at least somewhat coherent.

I do recall the end of a TV South Bank Show about Spacey at The Old Vic. The end credits rolled over a long tracking shot on a walkway in a South London park at night, as though the camera was cruising. I doubt many viewers were mystified by this reference.

I still wish Rupert Graves would come forward and tell his story of being groped by Spacey in his dressling room and Spacey stalking him. Does sitting in his car outside Graves’ home count as stalking? I think it does. Graves refused to do the Broadway transfer of The Iceman Cometh because of Spacey. Spacey was obsessed with him, most likely because of the role he’d played in the film Maurice. And Graves is married with children. To paraphrase someone quoting Spacey on last night’s broadcast “I love flipping straight guys.”

How many of these men were gay? I'm not reading any of that, straight men looking for money, again it's straight people.

R64 - a lot of the victims were straight because for Spacey it was about power rather than sexual attraction.

How many? I think it's just to go after a gay man, how many were gay and how many straight? Fuck your power shit, STRAIGHT CUNT

At least a few of the men who came forward to expose Spacey are gay and out

Spacey's favorite album:

Spacey didn’t just spend years in the closet, he denied being gay and attacked people who suggested he was.

He is this century’s Roy Cohn.

Los Angeles Times recap of the new allegations:

Has anyone ever tried to get a comment from Dianne Dreyer? I think she’s holed up in the same bunker as Shelly Miscavage.

I still love you, Dianne! Please don't spill the beans on all those guys I groped!

Your Loving Boyfriend, Kevin

Dianne Dreyer was a highly respected script supervisor on major films. It seemed toward the end of Part 1 that she might actually be interviewed on camera but nope.

The main ick factor bit in tonight’s Part 2 was from a young British actor who greeted Spacey at the Savoy for the opening night party of Sweet Bird of Youth and Spacey responded by reaching down into the guy’s boxers to stick his finger in his crack.

I wonder if Spacey woukd oblige Travolta from time to time. Travolta apparently loves that sort of anal attention and has supposedly begged licensed masseurs from reputable agencies in LA to “go that extra mike.”

For US viewers:

Airing Monday, May 13th on ID. It will be streaming on Max

If you bitches had a VPN you could log into a UK IP address, create a free account on Channel4.com and watch it, like I'm doing tonight.

I rip all UK shows like that. The UK has a lot of great free content. Unlike this shit hole.

Yeah, bitches, how else will you get to watch the Eurovision Song Contest final on Saturday night on BBC iPlayer which will have Graham Norton’s delicious ongoing commentary? Get with it.

Preview

Gosh, R75. You're the coolest kid on the playground.

[quote] Spacey didn’t just spend years in the closet, he denied being gay and attacked people who suggested he was. He is this century’s Roy Cohn.

Wrong. He actually said that the pieces were homophobic. Outing is not okay. He had every right to be angry.

A lot of these men admit to giving him head, kissing him, being willing to do whatever he wanted to get something and we’re supposed to feel sorry for them? If they got what they wanted, by their logic, it was okay. Spacey has an issue keeping his hands to himself but these men are hardly victims. The one from the set of “House of Cards” I do feel sorry for. The others are pretty ridiculous. This is the most publicity they’ve gotten in their entire failed lives. At any rate, people love gossip and love to be outraged over sex. What Spacey did was tame compared to what gay men do every day in real life. Not one of us would fall to pieces if someone started beating off next to us. Hell, it happens every day on the subway. My main issue with this is people making money off selling their stories. Go to the police and for Christ’s sake stop crying.

Having watched the second episode, it was made clear that these men came forward because he won both court cases and they felt with his power as a famous Oscar winner, that he was gettting away with it, and was now empowered to do whatever he wanted to others.

R80 which subway do you use?

[quote]What Spacey did was tame compared to what gay men do every day in real life

Though not so tame he didn't seek help at a sex-addiction clinic in Arizona.

[quote]for Christ’s sake stop crying

Spacey often cries during his long interview with Dan Wootton.

If Spacey's entire long harassing career was 'just' clumsy horny over-eagerness, fit only to be laughed off or forgotten, the above wouldn't have occurred. And if as the actor says to Wootton that he is now learning more about himself, then maybe it was right for the men he groped to break silence, for many good reasons.

I think r80 is giving some needed perspective here. I've been grabbed and groped (without invitation and sometimes very surprisingly) by men and women over the years. I've also been aggressively pursued in ways that I didn't encourage or want a few times. The only time it cost me anything emotionally was when it was connected to employment or advancement. In those instances it did stress me out considerably, but honestly only because I had to weigh the option of giving in to get ahead (pun intended) Something I only did once when I was attracted to the guy and would have hooked up with him anyway and later I did regret it, but I got over it. I've met a few very hot straight guys who were unaware of the impact they had on gay men, principally because they can't imagine being strongly attracted to another man, even if they've dabbled or been approached in the past. But most really hot guys, like hot girls, KNOW the fleeting power of the impact of their appearance and use it to varying degrees of awareness. I think it is different for women and smaller men who might legitimately be afraid of being physically overpowered. I never had that fear. I never feared for my safety. Just my job and I always felt like I could get another job. Another luxury many don't have, so I concede that when harassment is tied with employment in some way the reality is many people are legitimate victims.

HAVING SAID THAT, if you are a screenwriter who is straight and are willing to suck a movie stars dick for a few seconds in the hope of getting a deal, you are not a victim. You may be ashamed and embarrassed, but you are not a victim. If your employer sticks his hands down your pants, you are a being preyed upon, no question but if its an implied quid pro quo that is not delivered on, I am not considering you the victim of anything other than bad judgement and bad deal making. Some of these guys were victimized by Spacey for sure, and countless others who successfully executed a quid pro quo with Spacey are enjoying the fruits of that endeavour and are remaining anonymous.

I want to point out the reason Spacey felt so free to do this is true universally in almost every business: Because it works. In past years it could be dismissed with little effort if you were rich and powerful and more people give in than resist, so it's part of that culture. Some of the people crying victim are just failed negotiators and others were legitimately victimized and exploited.

It is ok to notice and point out the difference because its insulting to those who were truly predated upon to be grouped in wiith bad dealmakers.

Thanks r78. I try. 🤪

[quote] Spacey is a monster. Datalounge knew the truth about him and called him out before the mainstream media did

Just like with Harvey Weinstein and Ellen DeGeneres, I heard about their horrible antics on Datalounge decades ago before it finally hit the media.

"HAVING SAID THAT, if you are a screenwriter who is straight and are willing to suck a movie stars dick for a few seconds in the hope of getting a deal, you are not a victim."

Go after the pigs, not the people they dragged into the mud with them. As a star, producer, or director, you should be pressuring young wannabes to have sex with you for roles or $$$. You should be offering jobs to the people who are the most qualified, instead of giving them to people just because they had sex with you

[quote]Just like with Harvey Weinstein and Ellen DeGeneres, I heard about their horrible antics on Datalounge decades ago before it finally hit the media.

Ellen was mean to people. She wasn't a predator.

R84 is a slut people person I think.

If porn sites are accurate then this happens constantly on the Mexico City subway, r82.

R80 sounds like a dumb asshole and a Spacey apologist. Saying the victims had "failed lives" when he knows nothing about them. He is also a homophobe by pretending that all gay men do this. Uh, no we don't

r80 replying to r90

My quote below is my description of the facts as told by one of Spacey's accusers from the documentary :Looks like you missed it or haven't seen the documentary that is being discussed here. The guy is a straight identifying man who had no attraction to Spacey , but had ambitions to be a screenwriter he thought Spacey could help him achieve/ Spacey dangled promises so the guy finally relented and tried to give Spacey head for a few seconds. I mentioned him in contrast with some of the other men who, I believe, were genuinely victimized by Spacey. I watched the documentary before commenting oin it.

[quote] [ f you are a screenwriter who is straight and are willing to suck a movie stars dick for a few seconds in the hope of getting a deal, you are not a victim.

to your other assertions

[quote] sounds like a dumb asshole and a Spacey apologist

On the contrary, I am drawinbg a distinction between people genuinly victimized by Spacey with those who thought they could enter into a quid pro quo with him.

[quote] He is also a homophobe by pretending that all gay men do this. Uh, no we don't

Never said anything indicating anything near that. I did say that among the very wealthy gay and straight, sexual predators were free to do as they wished for decades and to some extent still do.

I realize from the reactionary tone of your post that you didn't really understand what I wrote, but I won't continue to explain myself. This is it

above post is r84 replying to r91 apologies for the confusion

[quote] [R84] is a slut people person I think.

I am a ""people person" and I have been a "slut" at veriious points However, I question the last part of your commentary: "I think"

That’s gay, and creepy.

R92, you're the one saying this is what gay men do in their everyday lives. So, yes, you are saying that gay men are all predators

You attacked ALL the victims by saying they had "failed lives" and accusing them of only coming forward for publicity.

[quote][R92], you're the one saying this is what gay men do in their everyday lives. So, yes, you are saying that gay men are all predators You attacked ALL the victims by saying they had "failed lives" and accusing them of only coming forward for publicity.

Show me the quote where I stated "all gay men are predators" Not your fanciful interpretation, just where I said "all gay men are predators" those words.

Show me where I "attacked ALL the victims by saying they had "failed lives", again not your self serving interpretation, show me where I used those words.

likewise with your lie accusing me of saying I accused them of "only coming forward for publicity"

I never said or implied any of the bullshit you are attributing to me.

R97, how about the quote that begins "What Spacey did was tame..."

And then there is:

"This is the most publicity they've gotten in their entire failed lives"

[quote][ R97], how about the quote that begins "What Spacey did was tame..." And then there is "This is the most publicity they've gotten in their entire failed lives"

How about the fact those aren't my posts and certainly not my thoughts? I am R84 and t92

Did anyone watch tonight?

[quote] Spacey is a monster.

I don't care. I still want them to let Kev remake the final season of House of Cards

I had no sympathy for the screenwriter who sucked Spacey’s dick expecting quid pro quo. HE was the one, in the end, who was pursuing Spacey. HE faxed Spacey an Oscar congrats with his phone number (didn’t they have email when ‘American Beauty’ came out?!!) and did this after Spacey had come on to him in the bar bathroom.

I also had NO sympathy for the high school drama classmate dude. Spacey wasn’t in a position of power at that time. He touched his dick while he was driving. Maybe Spacey thought he might be gay too? I wish I had been more forward with some of my high school classmates in retrospect.

If you are somewhat and have ever walked into a gay bar or nightclub, chances are VERY high that your dick was grabbed or butt was groped at some time or another. It’s not behavior that I think is appropriate, but it’s also not traumatizing. Spacey sounds like a homophobic creep, but unlike Harvey Weinstein, there are non criminal charges against him. He never raped anyone, but he certainly created a hostile work environment and his professional losses following the allegations/investigations are justified. I just don’t think we need a Max documentary full of “groping” stories. It’s patterned behavior and shouldn’t happen, but it does. There was also an “ick” factor with some of the straight men talking about “having their dicks touched” and “morals”. Spacey is a self hating creep, but he didn’t rape them, but their “victim trauma” on camera makes it seem like he did. The Saving Private Ryan dude - c’mon you know why you went up to his hotel room and I don’t think it’s MORE offensive that Spacey was jerking off while the Normandy attack was on screen. He’s a creep and a pervert. What do you expect?

And the brother… sad life with father, but is he closeted as well or does have a Diane in his life? I was surprised he never addressed his own sexuality issues, if there were any, in the doc.

^ You have no sympathy for the high school classmate who was groped against his will? Why? Because you're an asshole? Most of the victims are straight, just because you want to get groped by a man doesn't mean straight guys do

It was neither an abuse of power nor rape when Kevin Spacey groped a drama class mate in high school. His other groping incidences, on set and at the Old Vic, were abuses of power. Makes sense r103?

Did you ever attempt to get frisky with someone in high school and they turned you down? It happens all the time. The documentary attempts to establish this as the start of Kevin’s patterned behavior, which I think is wholly unnecessary and undermines the voice of the groped victims.

[quote] He never raped anyone, but he certainly created a hostile work environment and his professional losses following the allegations/investigations are justified. just don’t think we need a Max documentary full of “groping” stories.

Because Spacey was acquitted of criminal charges it's not unreasonable to assume he will achieve a comeback of sorts. I think this documentary is 'needed' to establish that this man should never be in a position of authority again, in the theater or anywhere else. The documentary is reminding people that he is a serial harasser, that's why it's 'needed'.

I think everyone knows about Kevin Spacey’s lack of professional conduct by now. I’m not a fan. He has always come across as a narcissistic smug asshole, but I’m also suspect of victims who associate “addiction issues”, “problems with relationships”, and “not making it in Hollywood” to sexual advances from Spacey. His behavior was wrong, but this documentary unnecessarily magnifies his prior indiscretions. He’s 64 and hasn’t worked in 7 years. He won’t comeback.

R104, it's illegal to grope someone without their permission. Whether you consider it "an abuse of power" or not

I don't go around "getting frisky" with random straight guys or guys who've never shown any interest in me. If you do, good luck with that. Hope you don't get murdered

Groping outside of a consensual sexual interaction is almost always unwelcome. In the workplace, it absolutely warrants disciplinary action.

I don’t think the dude from his high school drama class can call himself a victim here. The wannabe actors/screenwriters who went to Spacey’s hotel room… they knew they were walking into quicksand and should have learned from their lapse in judgement. If you want someone to read your screenplay, meet them in a bar. Don’t give them head and call yourself a victim when Spacey ignores your screenplay.

^ Don't try to lure guys into your web by promising that you'll help them succeed in the business if they have sex with you

I watched part 1 last night, and am absolutely fascinated by Kevin's brother, who dresses like a cross between Rodney Bingenheimer and Liberace. I need to know more about their relationship or lack thereof.

R109, absolutely wrong behavior, but these men knew what they were walking into by going to his hotel room or other private spaces with him. For both parties involved, it’s not appropriate to “conduct business” in someone’s hotel room or in a movie theater.

Going to someone's hotel room doesn't mean you deserve to be abused. And most of the abuse didn't happen in hotel rooms, anyway

(The few Harvey Weinstein defenders here, reactionary guys who want to lash out at metoo, always try to make the same argument. She went to his hotel room, so she deserved it! I guess even the worst guys have their defenders)

That one guy said he could smell him. I’m guessing he smelled of alcohol, cigarettes, eau savage, ass and stale cum.

R110, he’s a Rod Stewart impersonator in addition to limo driver

R112, I’m pretty sure if you accepted an invite to join Kevin Spacey in his hotel room you would know that a sexual advance could happen. I don’t buy that these men were surprised it happened. Spacey is a creep, but one thing leads to another.

They were starstruck and didn't want to say no. He also told one of them that there would be a party in the hotel room and that other people would be there. He didn't know he'd be alone with Spacey. Other guys had made similar claims about Spacey - that he'd invite them to a "party" and then he'd be the only person there

It was sad when one of the ex-marines said that Spacey made fun of a gay couple at a bar. Of course that's the kind of awful thing Spacey would do

I used to be a huge Kevin Spacey fan. I saw all his movies. It pisses me off that he’s a piece of shit, now I can’t watch him at all.

Some not especially relevant actors have called for Spacey to be allowed to return to work.

Not surprised about creepy Stephen Fry but Sharon Stone and Liam Neeson are disappointing. Would Neeson trust Spacey around his sons?

Stone, the most bankable female star of the 90s in films such as Basic Instinct, suggested in a statement that Spacey had been a victim of his own fame and success.

She told The Telegraph: “I can’t wait to see Kevin back at work. He is a genius. He is so elegant and fun, generous to a fault and knows more about our craft than most of us ever will.”

She said it was clear aspiring actors had “wanted and want to be around him”, adding: “It’s terrible that they are blaming him for not being able to come to terms with themselves for using him and negotiating with themselves because they didn’t get their secret agendas.”

Neeson, one of Britain’s biggest stars since starring in Schindler’s List 30 years ago, said: “I was deeply saddened to learn of these accusations against him. Kevin is a good man and a man of character. He’s sensitive, articulate and non-judgemental, with a terrific sense of humour. He is also one of our finest artists in the theatre and on camera. Personally speaking, our industry needs him and misses him greatly.”

F Murray Abraham, Oscar winner for his role as Salieri in Amadeus, said he counted Spacey as a friend, adding: “I vouch for him unequivocally. Who are these vultures who attack a man who has publicly accepted his responsibility for certain behaviour, unlike so many others?”

Abraham went on: “He is a fine man, I stand with him, and let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

In a withering assessment of the Channel 4 documentary, Fry accepted that Spacey had been “both ‘clumsy’ and ‘inappropriate’ on many occasions” but that to “bracket him with the likes of Harvey Weinstein” and “to continue to harass and hound him, to devote a whole documentary to accusations that simply do not add up to crimes … how can that be considered proportionate and justified?”

Fry said Spacey’s reputation had already been “wrecked”, adding: “Surely it is wrong to continue to batter a reputation on the strength of assertion and rhetoric rather than evidence and proof?”

He added: “Unless I’m missing something I think he has paid the price.”

He didn’t commit any criminal offenses and hasn’t been in the spotlight for almost seven years. Why not give him a second chance? Some of y’all just want him to suffer in perpetuity because you sound like you have a boner with his suffering.

He’s a narcissistic, homophobic, aggressive, tone-deaf creep. If you hate him, don’t be friends with him. However, he’s talented and should continue to act. I feel the same about Woody Allen and Roman Polanski. We care far too much about the personal lives of celebrities. They’re not politicians. They’re employed to entertain us with masks on.

R119 thinks rich and famous guys should get a free pass. You wouldn't be defending non-famous guys who did what Spacey and Roman Polanski did

And where do you get off saying he didn't commit any criminal offenses? Groping people without their permission is a crime

Spacey taking his dick out during a screening of Saving Private Ryan (specifically during the battle of Normandy scene) and asking the straight marine sitting next to him to help him rub one out was pretty funny.

I couldn't even get through the first episode. That big, buff Marine talking about how Spacey took advantage of him? Oh, please. He could have done what other big, buff, straight Marines have done: punch Spacey in the mouth and never see him again.

But no! He didn't go that! Because the Marine had an ulterior motive, and he pouted when Spacey wouldn't help him.

The entire time I was listening to these guys whine and moan, I couldn't help but wonder why they were so fucking stupid. OK -- a young-ish/naive woman might fall for those lines. But god almighty, these are men! You would think they would know how men act! Stormy had the same thing happen; she had sex with Trump for three minutes or so, put her clothes on, and went on about her life for many years until she realized that her story was worth some money, and then she got it. Case closed (until now).

But this shit happens to men and it's a fucking catastrophe -- when you would think that, of all people, men should know how other men can be. Talk about naive!!

The cases that went to court were dismissed, r121. The “allegations” against him were determined to NOT be crimes.

Two things are true.

Kevin Spacey has never been convicted of a crime.

Kevin Spacey has been accused by multiple people in multiple productions of unprofessional behaviour.

So film and theatre companies are welcome to hire Spacey but any sane producer will arrange for him to be chaperoned to avoid any similar complaints and will also have to consider whether Spacey’s involvement risks appealing to audiences.

"Oh, please. He could have done what other big, buff, straight Marines have done: punch Spacey in the mouth and never see him again."

He talks about this in the show. He points out how men who've never been in that situation say "I'd beat him up!"....guys say that because they want to sound macho. Look at the Dr. Strauss case at Ohio State. He groped a bunch of athletes, none beat him up

"The cases that went to court were dismissed"

OJ was found not guilty. So was Casey Anthony

R126, that doesn’t make you the judge and jury after watching a poorly executed, one sided documentary series on a narcissistic, homophobic, disturbed actor.

It wasn't poorly executed. It was "one sided" because there is no other side - Kevin has groped hundreds of men over the years. Stop the "both sides" shit. He's a predator. Calling him homophobic and disturbed won't hide the fact that you're clearly biased towards him

The stuff about his brother being violently raped by their father for years was disturbing. Spacey’s behavior - forcing himself on straight men, taking his dick out, doing shit in semi public settings all seem to suggest he gets off on the shock and humiliation factor as well as the sexual aspect of it.

And how the men kept saying he had this empty cold expression when he was doing this pervert shit.

VERY disturbed guy.

He doesn't have cock sucking lips. Must give horrible blow jobs

Does anyone have the Instagram for the hot marine?

^ Although at least a couple of the guys he groped did. The bit actor from House of Cards was HOT

[quote]"I'd beat him up!"....guys say that because they want to sound macho.

No, honey @R125 -- some guys actually do it. See: gay panic defense.

The reason he didn't is because he thought Spacey would help him "get in the biz."

r133, now do all the guys who were groped by Richard Strauss

Hundreds of victims, none beat him up

R134, that's simple: the doctor was an authority figure. He had the power to keep an athlete from competing.

Spacey? Not so much.

R135 huh? Once Spacey he was famous he had the power to make or break these peoples careers. I agree that some of these men were naïve, but there were several who were groped inappropriately. If nothing else, if this was in corporate America, he’d be an HR nightmare.

R135, he was rich and famous. Guys were starstruck and intimidated by his status

I wonder if somebody like Chris Evans or Brad Pitt had done the same thing, would those guys have been willing?

R138, most are straight so I doubt it

He can suck my dick if he wants, I'll just close my eyes and pretend it's someone else

The effect it had on those two English theater guys seemed a bit drastic.

A decade of PTSD? Years of substance abuse issues?

One got his ass grabbed and the other Spacey rubbed his crotch on him or something. I can understand being angry and grossed out but the emotional ruination they described I couldn't really comprehend.

Precisely, r141. It’s like Brendan Fraser claiming a Golden Globe producer grazed his clothed taint which caused him to overeat, abuse substances, and then lose his hair and Hollywood career.

I don't think gay men understand how a straight man feels after being assaulted by a man

[quote]I don't think gay men understand how a straight man feels after being assaulted by a man

I think that is true, r143 and I agree that it's a different experience. I will add, though, that straight identifying men who are in the entertainment business are most likely aware that when they go to an important industry person's home for a party and discover just the guy in his robe MUST be aware something is in the offing. I don't blame anyone for using whatever they've got to get ahead in the business, its fucking tough to get ANY traction, but the guys that kept meeting up with Spacey had to be at least willing to consider putting out for the right "price" Not defending Spacey, just stating what I think is obvious and it makes me crazy being asked to pretend that isn't the case

Is Kevin Spacey married now? He wears a ring.

Yes, we are married, but Kevin is trying to keep it a secret. I'm not sure why.

Is he still seeing his handsome "manager"?

[quote][R133], now do all the guys who were groped by Richard Strauss

I hate hearing this, I'm a big fan of Till Eulenspiegel.

It’s DIANNE, by the way.

I'm dilsexic!

[quote] Not defending Spacey,

But you are, aren't you?

What happened to the Kevin Spacey at the skatepark thread?

Did that queen complain about it? 😁 🤣 😂

Is the next episode on tonight?