Another UFO Whistleblower Coming Forward

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Were the aliens ancient?

Yes, they posted on the DL

What do they look like?

R4, like this?

Five seven, slim, black hair, glasses.

Oh wait, that’s Japanese guys.

Love it!

Five hours?

Can you just give us the highlights, OP?

Give cutie pie a listen. 20 minutes isn't too long.

Pentagon official reveals tantalizing seven-minute encounter with glowing blue UFO - which emitted enough energy to 'power a small city'

A US Department of Defense contractor's tantalizing encounter with a giant, glowing UFO has sparked 10 years of research and two patents inspired by his encounter.

Three witnesses, including that Pentagon engineer, report that they captured electronic evidence of a 'barbell' UFO, half the length of a football field, that glowed an eerie 'indigo' blue.

The craft, they said, flew silently over an old logging road in southwestern Ontario, Canada, on August 28, 2013, near where the trio had camped for a hunting trip.

'The captured data of the event,' the witness reported, 'may be the first real physical proof of not just a craft flying, but that it flies by virtue of an incredibly complex and [...] powerful spinning electromagnetic propulsion system.'

The case was investigated by the same nanotechnology expert whose analysis of a 2007 mass UFO sighting in Texas became a centerpiece of the Steven Spielberg-produced UFO docuseries 'Encounters' last year on Netflix.

'Is there another 'barbell' case we've investigated like this?' that engineer, UFO investigator Robert Powell, told DailyMail.com of this rare case. 'No, it's the only one.'

Powell told DailyMail.com that UFO cases with this shape are so rare that only about '50 to 60 cases' exist 'throughout history.'

Powell, whose new book on UFOs has garnered praise from former Defense Department intelligence official Chris Mellon, personally visited the contractor's lab and worked with him on analyzing the eerie interference on his UFO video.

'He gave me a tour of the defense facility,' Powell said, who vetted the source's identity and biographical claims.

'There was a heavy duty commercial 3D printer in the lab and there were offices with three or four engineers that worked there beside him in that his building,' he noted.

The August 28, 2013 'barbell' UFO encounter itself, these witnesses said, began at around 9:40pm as they were returning to civilization from a black bear hunting expedition, a practice that is legal when done in season in Canada.

The defense contractor witness was seated in the back of Dodge 4x4 truck, with the two other witnesses in the front seat, as reported to Powell and his co-investigator, retired former police detective Phil Leech.

'We were roughly four-and-a-half or five miles from the main road, when I noted something over my shoulder,' continued the defense contractor, who wishes to remain anonymous to preserve his Defense Department business contacts.

'The very first thing that was intense was just how bright this thing was,' he noted.

'It was spectacular. Having been involved with optical systems in the past, we're talking about a vehicle that looked like a stadium lighting scenario — it was brilliant.'

The witness described 'an indigo plasma that covered most of the craft,' which was bone-shaped or barbell-shaped and extended about 170-feet long, 60-feet wide and 20-feet tall, as it flew slowly just over the tree-line above this old logging road.

'It was spectacular. Having been involved with optical systems in the past, we're talking about a vehicle that looked like a stadium lighting scenario — it was brilliant.'

The witness described 'an indigo plasma that covered most of the craft,' which was bone-shaped or barbell-shaped and extended about 170-feet long, 60-feet wide and 20-feet tall, as it flew slowly just over the tree-line above this old logging road.

Blue Aliens?👽

Like that Corey Goode character claimed to be in contact with?

I love how the story begins “Pentagon official” which is then diluted to “Pentagon contractor” and then becomes three guys on a hunting trip.

Too bad in this day and age, everyone doesn't have, like a camera on their phone to film this shit as it happens!

Do we have a name for this whistleblower? Was it that Jason Sands guy?

Disclosure's acomin', youz rubes.

Or was it Karl Nell, OP?

Lou Elizondo’s book, Imminent, is out tomorrow and I’m gobsmacked to read that someone of Harald Malmgren’s stature confirming its basic veracity. 😳

More.

Also great, serious interview with Elizondo on CBS This Morning. Gayle King actually read the book too!

Lots of smoke now where's the fire?

^ UP YOUR NOSE WITH A RUBBER HOSE!

“What happened on a cold night in Upper Michigan? Is it fate or phenomenon?”

All the UFO stuff seems like redressed gnosticism which to me makes it seem less credible but also way scarier

They're real.

Did they take over Tulsi Gabbard’s brain?

i agree they are real...I want to know more!

I say we roll out the red carpet for the aliens

Pictures or it didn't happen.

I always find it strange that people want a picture of the thing they don't believe in and it has to look like the thing that they imagine the thing that they don't believe in would look like. And when shown photos they dismiss them as a bunch of lights, probably fake or a drone.

1/15/2009 a 727 flies over the busiest bridge in the world, flies over Manhattan next to the Westside highway, land on the Hudson river at 3pm and not a single cell phone captured the landing.

Good digital cameras have only been around for a few years, go try to film a single bird flying around in the sky and then ask why you can film a craft travelling at 200mph. After this story broke another passenger on the plane said they saw it also but did not get a pic. It was only in 6 frames.

Even if the U.S. or other governments disclosed what they know or don't know a huge percent of folks wouldn't believe them. If non human intelligences are here it is really up to them to disclose themselves. Maybe they are, and they don't care to, or only care to on a piecemeal basis. If they're here, i believe, it's likely we are like ants or cockroaches to them. Maybe we would be interesting to experiment upon or observe as we do zoo animals. I doubt they care what we think or believe except maybe as an anthropological curiosity So where does that put us? We are definitely trashing the planet and assume it is ours to trash. They might well hold that against us.

Yeah-drop everything for the boogieman-don’t forget to bring your autographed von Daniken ‘’Chariots of the Gods’’

Isn’t that Con dead yet?

‘’Carpetbaggers Of The Gods’’ by Inrich con Daniken

This is one subject where we, non experts, are all equally ignorant. Around the world, there are dozens of credible witnesses with varying degrees of evidence of non-humans, but so what? We're all just a bunch of dumb primates, what would we even do with the information? And what if they said "Give up bacon, pigs are your genetic superiors', would Americans believe them or shoot them and eat twice as many pigs just to own the aliens?

What would you do if you woke up one day and found a UFO in your Varhinga? In Brazil, A craft crashed, an alien was injured, a police officer found the alien, touched it, and died the next day of unknown reasons.

Watch the reactions of the witnesses and judge for yourself their credibility.

They are already here:

You bored fags will believe anything.

R37 You nasty trolls will insult anybody no matter what they say or don’t say. You are truly anonymous and irrelevant.No ideas no imagination and no empathy go back to your hole. That is how you will remain.

For the more credulous among us:

If you follow ufo shit you're already in a hole-enjoy. You won’t get those years back.

I believe that was the night that the lights went out in Georgia, too, y’all.

Talk is cheap.

Snowden had documents. Ellsworth had documents.

Wake me up when there is something more than talk.

I think they're talking to the whales. I know I would if I could.

Because we all look to a YouTube channel with under 400 subscribers for the truth about life in the cosmos.

Published two months ago.

Bring back the X Files to tv.

In December of 2009 I was at a wedding in Manalapan NJ. Halfway through the evening I went outside the wedding hall to have a cigarette (I smoked back then but don't anymore). It was clear and kind of cold night and being from NYC you really can't see much in the sky at night. However, in the burbs of NJ it's quite different. As I was outside, I looked up in the sky at the myriad of stars I never get in the to see in the city and there it was, a huge triangular craft with blue lights on each corner just floating overhead. I could see the commercial aircraft way above just as normal flying into Newark and Philly. You know when you get that feeling in your gut that you are seeing something not of this earth? Well That's what happened to me. This thing was not one of ours. I'll never forget it. Call me crazy.

Did you feel any sense of dread, R46, like they might kidnap you or something? I'd be scared shitless.

I and three others saw a wheel / orb shape of spinning colored lights while camping in the sierra national forest. They were pink green blue yellow and green ones. I couldn’t tell how big it was. It was too high to see details. It sat there for a few hours then disappeared at dawn .

Now for sale on Amazon: The Big Book of Credible UFO Encounters & Others Stories by Z. Sitchin

[quote] Snowden had documents.

Snowden is a Russian spy who obviously didn’t give a shit about violating national security or an NDA. The people in government and private industry who have direct access to the evidence aren’t willing to go to jail and/or lose their security clearances and livelihood over this.

Quite a few of the posters in this thread are clinically insane.

Why would alien spacecraft even need lights?

Because it's really experimental aircraft.

R30 Yeah. That Hudson River landing wasn't captured at all.

R2 They were justified AND ancient.

Show actual alien bodies or shut the fuck up. Pics and video are not proof.

Scratch the surface of any UFO Whistle Blower and find unethical,criminal,shifty,grifty behavior or mental illness/drug abuse and all on Trump Train.

I swear about every 6 months we have the Alien Conspiracists biannual meeting here on DL. I love a good snarky alien/ghost story but these fervent believers are bizarre, humorless and shrill about any doubters.

R54, that link shows CCTV footage. Read R30 again:

[quote]1/15/2009 a 727 flies over the busiest bridge in the world, flies over Manhattan next to the Westside highway, land on the Hudson river at 3pm and not a single cell phone captured the landing.

[quote]Scratch the surface of any UFO Whistle Blower and find unethical,criminal,shifty,grif - ty behavior or mental illness/drug abuse and all on Trump Train.

R57 Does that apply to Chuck Schumer too?

Snowden wasn't a Russian spy, but even if you believe that (and that itself would be a conspiracy theory btw), I LOVE how you think no one over the decades would be willing to go to jail or have their livelihoods ruined for the greatest secret in human history. The reason all the real folks that work at Area 51 and other places keep quiet is because they're working on secret humanmade aircraft for the US government and nothing more. Admittedly it's probably very cool humanmade tech, but it's still humanmade. And even the coolest of that would just be a logical progression of what has come so far. If it were actual aliens, they would have evidence, not just "trust me bro".

The only shrill I'm hearing here is from the people who are TERRIFIED of the truth, that non-human intelligences have been present and interacting with humans for many years. They can't see it's the GOVERNMENT that's softening us up for disclosure. 'Better start making your peace with this reality, ladies.

Why, because a homophobic nitwit with no evidence says so anonymously on the internet?

They come for the shopping.

R63 What does homo ANYTHING have to do with this thread, cunt?

Pay close attention, deniers.

R62, you have zero proof. You are like religious zealots.

I for one am not shrill. Merely stating facts.

This ufo kook pops up like clockwork here.

Trollhole^

Trollhole^

It’s NOT out there.

Posting YT videos is akin to magats doing their own "research" online.

The former Administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and a retired rear admiral of the U.S. Navy has made similar statements but yeah he's probably a "ufo kook" too 🙄

The deniers are ... passionate. They seems to have an agenda. Either that or it's personal for them. They're frightened to death NHI are real. Poor darlings.

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Oh R74, no one is scared of them. 😅

If they're here they don't seem to be doing anything. Your ilk appears to be anxious and scared considering how much time you fret over it.

Bugs you a lot, huh? You're so agitated.

Sure, doll. As agitated as Bigfoot, Beelzebub and the Madhatter make me.

You really are just trolling at this point.

False equivalences, mocking, name calling, and persistence -- like it's your job. What's your game, R78? Making DL safe from broader thinking?

I smell cube frau.

You smell something, but it’s more like a stall than a cube

R79, you lack self awareness.

R81 agreed. The ufo kook seems like a cube frau at work proclaiming their proof that Jesus is coming.

Sorry R83 was for R80.

[quote] Sure, doll. As agitated as Bigfoot, Beelzebub and the Madhatter make me.

And yet, here you remain.

*eye roll...

R85, yes, it does amuse me.

For those that don't seem to believe in anything, you may to take the time now to figure out just how much proof you are going to need or if you will go to your grave not believing and looking like an idiot when there is plenty of proof.

Once you wanted pics to believe they were real and scoffed at all the fake pics. Now that there are plenty of pics you want something else. When you get that then you will want something else.

You are going to be seeing and hearing about them all the time now because they are trying to get you adjusted to when they surface and you can't deny them any longer. It should all be out in about 5 years or less. That is why they have been so prevalent lately.

It isn't those of us that do believe in this stuff that are crazy.

When the Pentagon releases videos and fighter pilots come forward talking about their experiences, even saying, we see them all the time, there is certainly no doubt something is going on.

That guy from April, Jason Sands, had a bad reputation after he gave his interviews.

Tons of people believe in god. .one has to say they believe in god to become elected for president Do they have a photo. Everyone has got a cell phone now . Where’s the pic.

No R47 it was too far away for that. It was just up there in the sky moving very slow. I wish I could have taken a picture but didn't have a smartphone back then. It was right there in my sights. I'll never forget it in my mind's eye or the felling I had.

"Maximum Fear" has some great videos of some mystery objects/beings =

R93 Why are all these videos grainy and/or the camera is always herky jerky in these so-called mystery videos?

I firmly believe that aliens have been permanently on earth for thousands (maybe millions) of years, and we have had temporary visitors from various other aliens races for millennia. I believe that the human race is here due to the activities of aliens. They seeded this planet with us.

The governments of the world are terrified that if they tell the truth society will revolt once they know there are beings on this planet that are far more powerful than those we put into power. Governments are concerned that admitting the truth will turn the populace against them for all the lies they've been telling for a very long time. I believe if they admit that aliens exist a large percentage of people on earth will decide they don't have to abide by any rule or law they don't like.

R95 = Erich von Daniken

R94 if the camera was steady and clear you'd see how fake the pics are.😁

R98 Exactly.

When zooming in on an object in the sky from far away it is impossible to keep the object in your viewfinder from being fuzzy. You can do a better job if you have a high powered zoom lens with the camera on a very sturdy tripod, but even then the object is likely going to be moving around so getting a clear shot is virtually impossible.

No, OP.

We are, however, witnessing a specific psy-op tactic resurfacing, as an objective used in order to keep society off balance, with the goal being: individuals, questioning their reality.

It’s a money making ecosystem for influencers, retired ex government employees/contractors, who cash in via YouTube, podcasts, books, conventions, guest appearances, etc.

R100 So explain the herky jerky movements of all the so-called Bigfoot footage.

I dare say I you were out in the forest with a camera and you came upon a bigfoot you'd be shaking so hard while trying to photograph or video the creature your images would be jerky. Your adrenaline would be raging, your heart would be pounding, and your hands would be quivering like mad.

And how about the perfect photo at r30? It's certainly an object, why wouldn't the FAA investigate this as a near miss? Why didn't an astrophysicist reply with the speed and direction? The flight path, geography, air speed of the airplane and altitude and weather are available to analyze yet we have no expert interview. 6 frames of perfect pictures generates silence from the MSM and scientific community.

Go try to take a picture of bird with your camera phone and then wonder why the pictures are always shaky.

R103 Or it could all just be staged bullshit.

R104 That photo could be anything. It could be a plane, a drone, a balloon. A snapshot taken from a moving aircraft can be incredibly deceiving.

Look, I'm a believer that we are not alone in the universe. But photos like this and fuzzy, jerky videos do not overwhelmingly convince me that we have concrete evidence.

R104, a picture of a bird can be taken without shakiness.

R104

R106 that photo is actually a single frame of a video taken by a woman using her iPhone. The object was travelling incredibly fast and just happened to be captured by her.

If you watch the clip below it’s clear she had no idea what she was recording at the time.

R108 I have a professional mirrorless camera that can shoot up to 30 frames per second at 30MP, paired with a $4,000 telephoto lens and I regularly go out to take photos of birds, especially those in flight. I visit areas where I am guaranteed to find birds. I’ll take several thousand images in a few hours and even then may come home with a handful of usable images. So the idea that someone equipped with an iPhone who just happens to be there for an INCREDIBLY rare appearance of the UFO will capture an image of it is absurd.

R109, you really try too hard. You can't convince anyone with bad pics and yt videos.

It's not about "convincing" it's about looking at one person's experience in real time and the lack of curiosity of the authorities and experts.. Whatever it was passed a jet travelling 200 plus mph in 1/7 of a second. Which is also a good answer to "Why aren't there more good pictures?"

But ok, let's call it a drone,in LGA airspace and the FAA was not interested and ignored her emails. Look what happens where there's a kid on a roof with a laser pointer, a full on manhunt. She reported this to the FAA in real time. Wouldn't you think they would interview the pilots? You'd think the plane would have a dash cam? The only reason to ignore it is because it happens all the time and they can't do anything about it. The reporter didn't think "Hey, let's call United and ask them about it?".

As least 5 US Presidents have recounted personal UFO stories. There is a massive effort to control what little info we have available, We're all under informed on the subject.

I think you worry too much. Why do you think they should tell us everything? Besides, they know people are panicky, ignorant idiots.

But Erich von Daniken said…

Isn’t that fraud dead yet?

I won't believe until I've been probed.

You def probed that W&W button for yourself.

[quote] I won't believe until I've been probed.

Commence anal probing.

R46 here. When I said the "craft" had blue lights on each corner, they were blue but not "our blue" if that makes any sense. It's so hard to articulate. No way was this thing human made. It floated, darted away for a bit and floated back again.

Aliens: “Earthlings, we visit and mean you absolutely no harm. We are here to meet the most beautiful Miss Lindsey that has been observed. We want to be her gentleman callers. We will treat her as the Milky Way Queen. Once the seven of us are satisfied, we will leave in peace, but return to visit Miss Lindsey again next year.” 🚀 🛸

It's...it's a cookbook!

What does Giorgio A. Tsoukalos have to say about all this?

Cern is back in the news this week-

As is ex-DOD officer, Luis Elizondo.

[Quote]Luis Elizondo

Any relation to Hector?

^^^um, okay. Nothing new and no proof.

^So, what's your point? How are you adding something new to this conversation or is your only role to be a turd in the punch bowl? Something is happening and people are looking for evidence from all available sources.

Colonel Karl E. Nell is an Aerospace Executive, Senior Military Officer & Corporate Strategist. An Ivy League graduate, certified-PMP®, published author, War College alumni, and fully Joint-qualified commissioned officer in the Army Reserve, Karl has been honored to command at every grade level through colonel including activation of the Army’s newest expeditionary military intelligence brigade supporting XVIII Airborne Corps and JSOC.

^^^my point is there is nothing new. All of this has been discussed and no one ever produces real evidence. You show up on these threads posting links which still show zilch and get pissy if we all don't breathlessly proclaim belief.

R123 I saw the headline and thought, "Interesting. Let's have a look." Then I saw this:

The full interview airs Friday 9/8c on NewsNation.

Bye.

The guy at R123 is a total hack.

This was excellent -- had my doubts about Luis but hearing him at length here, I like him now and believe him more. Rogan does a pretty great job interviewing him.

Joe Rogan? Oh, for fuck's sake, R130.

FFS, So Rogans out , News Nation out, any and all videos on YT and lights that could be anything, out, any story that's not new, any and all eye witnesses, ex-officials who work on the actual UAP program, and I guess everyone else who has anything to say about the subject.? FAKE!

BTW Rogan has over 5 Billion views, half the planet. But you're so much smarter.

R132 Yeah, and 5 billion flies swarm to shit.

Yep, I'm so much smarter.

Just vote for Trump already.

The Rogan interview is OUTSTANDING, regardless of what some of your personal grievances are, R134. Luis is very smart, I was pleased to learn. Whaaaaa? Trump???? Stay on topic at least, cunt.

R135 Yep, a MAGAt, all right.

Cunt^

Another Joe Rogan no thanks. Trumper POS.

Come to think of it, young Lurch Trump may be an alien.

Disclosure is coming-vote dump

Well, it had blue lights but it wasn’t our blue-call me crazy- I was at a wedding-drunk off my ass.

There are too many pics and videos and eye witnesses accounts from all the the world for it to be fake...

What about crop circles?

I was waiting for someone to say that R141. The thing is, I don't drink.

You know what convinces me that all this is bs? If Dump was briefed he'd have blabbed it all and probably passed pictures round at Mar Lardo. That mfer cannot keep his fat yap shut and the temptation to boast would be too great.

R146 Excellent point! You're 100% correct.

He was not briefed. Presidents are regarded as "temporary employees" without a ned to know. NHI interaction on this planet is now, however, the worst-kept secret in the US government. Still, unelected people in our government are choosing what you will and will not know -- and many of these are religious fundies. That's from numerous insiders.

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Yeah-yeah-tell us all about the crop circles!!!

I don't appreciate that. Men in black showed up at my house and it was scared to death! But then he showed me his huge cock so I was cool with it.

Yeah, some rando on a website thinks they know what a president is briefed on. 😂

R131, I guess you still believe all the shit the msm is feeding you. You still don't see the bullshit? Rogan is out there, but he has guests from the farout to respected scientists, doctors and scholars. And, he lets them talk.

Given the state of the world, the incredible violence from racism and religion, brutality and exploitation from profoundly stupid people, I know humanity could never deal with the truth. Yeah, no, there is no allah and, no, you can't kill people and invade civilized countries and demand sharia or throw gays off roofs, etc. And you Catholics are not getting souls into heaven or whatever.

Exactly why intelligent life would avoid this ghetto ass planet R154.

UFO community also believes in Santa.

Absolutely boring podcast. Turned it off.

Seeing is believing and I ain't seeing nuthin'

Thank you for your cogent analysis, Buckwheat.

^I'm glad you said that. I was going to post "nyuck, nyuck, nyuck" myself but figured the humor would be lost.

TBF, the entire subject is a wormhole of info/disinfo with far more questions than answers. This is why we need to trust the former professionals with proven records who risk their careers and reputations to come forward.

There is zero doubt.

Paul Hellyer, Haim Eshed, Chris Mellon, David Grusch, Lue Elizondo -- people who were in a position to know all telling you the same thing, that they're here now.

I feel unincluded, I've never seen one.

One just came through my bedroom wall.

One just came ON my bedroom wall.

I've seen one r163.

Oprah says we should listen when people tell us who they are. She should include NHI because they're shouting.

Oprah?

In the end, does it matter?

Is Oprah a space alien also?

Meet Skinny Bob.

[quote] Is Oprah a space alien also?

No. She’s a teen girl.

People who are so rabidly into UFO mythology have replaced evangelistic fervor for Jesus with aliens.

I love a good alien story once in awhile but some you sound like lunatics.

It's real, they are out there. I believe our navy pilots