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Mount Everest 2024

It's that time of year again, and they got NEW RULES!

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by Anonymousreply 146May 19, 2024 12:07 AM

Yes! After Christmas, I look forward to Everest time. I've been watching lots of old videos of all the deaths. I can't wait to see the teams this year.

by Anonymousreply 1April 15, 2024 3:25 AM

Yes, we discussed the new chipping guidelines when they were announced. DL is always on top of everything Mount Everest, it is one of the more peculiar things about this place.

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by Anonymousreply 2April 15, 2024 4:05 AM

[quote]climbers would be required to haul their feces off of the peak and down to Base Camp via plastic WAG bags.

Yeah, it's about time they started protecting the environment from a bunch of nasty Westerners on holiday. I don't see a problem.

And Free Tibet.

by Anonymousreply 3April 15, 2024 4:05 AM

We had a bumper crop of deaths in 2023. 17!

by Anonymousreply 4April 15, 2024 12:33 PM

Do people die every year?

by Anonymousreply 5April 15, 2024 1:02 PM

Take them all, Chomolungma.

by Anonymousreply 6April 15, 2024 1:09 PM

Awwwww yeah, let’s get this party started!

by Anonymousreply 7April 15, 2024 1:35 PM

I thought I’d missed it.

“ Everest permits are down 34%. The trend in recent years is for teams to arrive much later than, let’s say, a decade ago, so we’ll see.” From the Alan Arnette blog linked below.

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by Anonymousreply 8April 15, 2024 1:54 PM

Idiots. There's plenty of nature to enjoy without having to worry about it trying to kill you.

by Anonymousreply 9April 15, 2024 1:56 PM

Everest is fascinating because every year there is an increasing amount of people with more money than sense who seem to think Everest is some sort of theme park (especially after seeing pictures of the lines) and they think it makes them heroes or something when all it makes them look like is entitled morons. There is nothing heroic anymore. There are ladders and tour guides and warming tents. Hell, you can get married up there now. And after each tragic event we can tsk tsk and say "Death by Misadventure". Not to mention it reminds us to admire George Mallory's absolutely magnificent nude photos taken by Virginia Woolf's sister.

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by Anonymousreply 10April 15, 2024 4:07 PM

I propose a meeting for the Supreme Court Justices there --------------- let;s see who are the REAL men and women?????

by Anonymousreply 11April 15, 2024 4:37 PM

R11 is more damaged than anything Mt Everest could do to anyone.

by Anonymousreply 12April 15, 2024 8:54 PM

I need a break and some oxygen climbing a set of stairs.

by Anonymousreply 13April 15, 2024 9:19 PM

For R7:

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by Anonymousreply 14April 15, 2024 9:25 PM

R5 Not every year, but we always hope.

I can't believe we've never discussed this chick.

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by Anonymousreply 15April 15, 2024 9:32 PM

We did discuss her here. The Arnette blog has brief bios of many of the (non-professional) climbers (less so in recent years) who then had blogs of their own covering their Everest journey. I used to read up on a few of them and then see how far they got. Hers was a combination of misplaced determination, over confidence, under preparedness, and a cut rate expedition company. Wow, that was back in 2012.

by Anonymousreply 16April 15, 2024 11:36 PM

R15, thank you for the video link about her story. The woman narrating looks like SNL's Debbie Downer.

by Anonymousreply 17April 15, 2024 11:36 PM

R16 Yes, the Arnette blog! That's where we can find who we want to follow this year.

by Anonymousreply 18April 16, 2024 2:07 AM

There's an episode of The Fifth Estate about her.

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by Anonymousreply 19April 16, 2024 2:21 AM

She was interesting for the simple fact that she had no experience at all, couldn't even put on crampons, and for some reason, she and her husband were thinking she could really do this. I guess she did though, right? It's the descent that got her.

by Anonymousreply 20April 16, 2024 2:23 AM

Shah trained for the climb using a Stairmaster in her gym

by Anonymousreply 21April 16, 2024 2:28 AM

How did she manage to get as far as she did without much training? I remember that part about the stairmaster, r21.

by Anonymousreply 22April 16, 2024 3:25 AM

I can't answer this question and I don't know why Shah wasn't pursued to pursue another personal challenge

by Anonymousreply 23April 16, 2024 3:29 AM

I guess it's not a hard climb, technically. It's not like Anapurna or K2. You can get up with sheer determination and a sherpa. Paraplegics can do it with help.

by Anonymousreply 24April 16, 2024 3:32 AM

55K for a permit? See you in Aruba toots.

by Anonymousreply 25April 16, 2024 3:32 AM

"Whatever ever she'd do she'd do it with passion." Bitches like that deserve to die.

by Anonymousreply 26April 16, 2024 3:33 AM

Persuaded to pursue

by Anonymousreply 27April 16, 2024 4:00 AM

[QUOTE] How did she manage to get as far as she did without much training?

She was born in Nepal so had high altitude tolerance in her DNA.

by Anonymousreply 28April 16, 2024 4:09 AM

I read somewhere that as challenging as the climb up is the real danger is the climb down. I think it has to do with oxygen levels. I’m sure this has been discussed at length on the annual DL Everest threads, but maybe someone can provide some detail for this thread.

by Anonymousreply 29April 16, 2024 9:21 AM

R29 - exhaustion plays a huge part. Adrenaline will get you up but it won't get you down. The push from Camp 4 to the summit is one of the most physically and technically demanding sections of climbing Mount Everest and typically takes anywhere from 10 to 20 hours — some of this will depend on the queue at the summit.

Many climbers don't leave themselves enough oxygen to get back down and others forget that it's much easier to slip and fall when climbing down as it is when climbing up. They feel like they've done the hard part and become less vigilant.

Also, the longer a climber remains in the Dead Zone (above 8000 metres) the more chance there is of HAPE or HACE setting in. Often this hits on the down climb or at Camp 4.

by Anonymousreply 30April 16, 2024 3:09 PM

Yes R29. It's the descent that kills you. You're pretty wiped out at that point and you've been in the death zone for a long time and your body is dying the whole time you're up there. You don't really want to dick aroundd, you want to get back down asap. Yes, what R30 said.

by Anonymousreply 31April 16, 2024 3:10 PM

They should install a funicular.

by Anonymousreply 32April 16, 2024 3:13 PM

She had been awake for 26 hours when she became unresponsive on the descent. Staying at the top for 4 hours was also unwise.

Just seeing the very long queue waiting to ascend, it’s not a unique challenge. Anyone can see that now. But it’s a huge source of income for a poor country.

by Anonymousreply 33April 16, 2024 3:23 PM

Four hours at the top? Insanity. 30 minutes max is what is recommended.

Article reviewing new book about Everest.

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by Anonymousreply 34April 16, 2024 3:28 PM

I know I'm going to hell but the way the sherpa's just casually said...we tied her body to the ice and left her. LOL she's as bad as the one having a sherpa carry a coffee maker and then fucking on the mountain.

by Anonymousreply 35April 16, 2024 3:35 PM

I wonder if any of the Sherpas are rough trade?

by Anonymousreply 36April 16, 2024 4:04 PM

I’m guessing climbers will make their Sherpa carry their poo, like I do when I walk my dog.

by Anonymousreply 37April 16, 2024 4:06 PM

It's not just poo. They're wiping their arses too and leaving toilet paper allover the place. Well at least I hope they wipe their arse.

by Anonymousreply 38April 16, 2024 4:22 PM

They have been leaving their shit up there for years so now they have to bring it back down to feed the yaks

by Anonymousreply 39April 16, 2024 4:26 PM

I've said this on other Everest threads, but in many articles about Everest, they'll be spotlighting a climbing expedition and the various group members, and inevitably there's someone who just flat out bails - at base camp, at camp 2 or 3. It always makes me laugh. Like they wake up one morning and say, "yeah, this isn't gonna happen; I'm gonna chill. Maybe I'll learn Spanish when I get home - that seems like a doable challenge."

by Anonymousreply 40April 16, 2024 4:33 PM

For some people just getting to base camp is the whole challenge R40. I would probably bail too, as soon as I saw the Icefalls and those shitty ladders that go over them. I appreciate them leaving though, man has to know his limitations.

by Anonymousreply 41April 16, 2024 4:56 PM

Totally, agree R41. If they're doubting it in any sense, to any degree, it's smart and responsible bail.

by Anonymousreply 42April 16, 2024 4:59 PM

Reading more of the AA blog, the “mandatory GPS tag” is no such thing. He thinks it’s a small tag that needs a hand held receiver to scan for it. Which means you have to have those scanners at hand and a pretty good idea where someone got lost.

But here’s the absolute easiest thing to cut down on Everest deaths/overcrowding/trash:

“Require all climbers to have summited 7000 meters or higher before issuing them Everest permits.”

(^ and those are mainly in the Himalayas or that part of the world)

by Anonymousreply 43April 16, 2024 6:01 PM

Preach R43! I'll go one better, no supplemental oxygen allowed. That will clean up the mountain too.

by Anonymousreply 44April 16, 2024 7:00 PM

"Require all climbers to have summited 7000 meters or higher before issuing them Everest permits.”

Alk 7k expeditions cost at least another $30k so they won't specify that because it means only millionaires can afford to summit Everest. Jon Krakauer himself did well and had never submitted a 7k.

by Anonymousreply 45April 17, 2024 10:32 AM

Serious climbers have sponsors.

Also:

David Breashears died March 14 at the age of 68 of natural causes. He was found unresponsive at his home in Marblehead, Massachusetts. David is the filmmaker who co-directed and co-produced the 1998 IMAX documentary “Everest.” He was making the film in 1996 and stopped when disaster hit, taking eight lives, including Adventure Consultants’s co-founder, Rob Hall. Breashears stopped his film project and provided spare oxygen tanks, batteries, and food to searchers.

by Anonymousreply 46April 17, 2024 11:18 AM

David Breashears is a great loss to mountaineering. One of the few of his generation who didn't die in the mountains. Really enjoyed his book on Everest.

by Anonymousreply 47April 17, 2024 12:39 PM

When someone dies or there's a high death rate during one season all these narcissists want to blame someone else.

by Anonymousreply 48April 17, 2024 7:23 PM

I'd root for avalanches if they could distinguish between Sherpas and trust fund thrillseekers.

by Anonymousreply 49April 17, 2024 7:42 PM

As of April 15, 20% fewer permits issued.

The sherpas setting up the path through the Khumbu Icefall can only advance 3 ft per day according to Alan Arnette.

Summit period is mid to late May.

by Anonymousreply 50April 20, 2024 1:32 PM

Three feet only? Did you mean 30?

by Anonymousreply 51April 20, 2024 2:26 PM

It said 3 ft. I guess it was much more difficult than usual.

by Anonymousreply 52April 20, 2024 8:07 PM

“ Moving three feet a day, the Doctors noted five potential areas where climbers could be in danger as the glacier moves and teetering ice towers wobble. Everyone will need to be focused and get through those areas quickly.”

(Hit post too soon.)

by Anonymousreply 53April 20, 2024 8:08 PM

Thank you r52/53.

Most normals like us would be freaking out to cancel the season in such conditions. Right?

by Anonymousreply 54April 20, 2024 10:25 PM

If I could have one wish, I’d wish that K2 was the highest mountain in the world.

by Anonymousreply 55April 20, 2024 11:36 PM

Or Annapurna, R55.

3 feet a day is absurdly slow progress. The Icefall must be a nightmare. They have ten days to get it sorted before the season starts and that won't happen. Maybe the mountain will be closed this year.

by Anonymousreply 56April 21, 2024 8:02 AM

The icefall is 1.62 miles long, roughly 2,000ft of climbing and usually takes between 3-6 hours for climbers to navigate.

Impossible to get it ready in time.

by Anonymousreply 57April 21, 2024 8:03 AM

The icefall is the fucking craziest part! That would be the summit for me, and they do it multiple times...insane.

by Anonymousreply 58April 21, 2024 2:10 PM

Did they really mean 3 feet or 30. Someone had suggested upthread that it was a typo?

by Anonymousreply 59April 21, 2024 7:00 PM

R48 There were many accommodations made in 1996 to accommodate the Imax crew, I think they cannot be seen as blameless.

by Anonymousreply 60April 21, 2024 7:17 PM

Well, looks like business is picking up. Nepal processed 203 permits last week so the total so far exceeds this time last year by 33.

by Anonymousreply 61April 23, 2024 12:52 AM

The last report I read said permit applications (or maybe granted) were down by 20%. Guess an impoverished country needs more stupids to keep up the GDP, or something.

by Anonymousreply 62April 23, 2024 3:40 AM

Base camp would be my goal, too. Plenty close enough to see the scary shit, not be able to breathe very well, be cold AF constantly and get to commune with Chomolungma.

by Anonymousreply 63April 23, 2024 5:58 PM

Do we have any favorite expeditions this year? Any good teams? I need to look at Arnette's blog. I have to find someone to root for.

by Anonymousreply 64April 23, 2024 6:00 PM

Poop Corpse Mountain

by Anonymousreply 65April 23, 2024 6:05 PM

Arnette hasn’t highlighted any climbers (yet), just the companies who’ve applied for permits.

by Anonymousreply 66April 23, 2024 6:43 PM

Here's a few no oxygens at least.

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by Anonymousreply 67April 23, 2024 7:04 PM

"These no Os attempts are always fascinating to watch and often with tragic results, as we saw last year with Hungarian Szilard Suhajda, who was climbing Everest alone with no Sherpa support and without supplemental oxygen when he went missing. A Seven Summits Trek summit team of Sherpas guiding Chinese clients last saw him at the base of the Hillary step. He is presumed dead as he was never seen again last season."

by Anonymousreply 68April 23, 2024 7:06 PM

The solo climbers are insane. Even Ueli Steck got into trouble doing that.

by Anonymousreply 69April 23, 2024 8:05 PM

What a terrible idea.

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by Anonymousreply 70April 23, 2024 8:12 PM

Yes R70! This is what I'm looking for, the ones that are so ridiculous and can only be brought up with help from a sherpa. Not everyone gets to summit Everest, and most of them are sighted and can hear, I don't get why these people want to do this. There are other ways to show you're like everyone else, this isn't one of them.

by Anonymousreply 71April 23, 2024 8:24 PM

They can just take her to base camp and tell her it's the summit.

by Anonymousreply 72April 23, 2024 8:25 PM

Will Bosley the guide dog be going too? I can't wait to see.

by Anonymousreply 73April 24, 2024 12:10 AM

The guide dog is named Tenzing.

by Anonymousreply 74April 24, 2024 1:40 AM

I was watching American Housewife and there was a cute kid on it, I looked him up and he's famous!

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by Anonymousreply 75April 24, 2024 1:59 AM

Panorama view.

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by Anonymousreply 76April 24, 2024 2:57 AM

If Mosedale is at Camp 1 have the Icefall doctors finished?

by Anonymousreply 77April 24, 2024 3:14 AM

How long does it take to get the icefall ready?

by Anonymousreply 78April 24, 2024 3:16 AM

Pretty soon they'll be hauling cousin Geri up that mountain.

by Anonymousreply 79April 24, 2024 8:49 PM

R79 Ha! They definitely could, and should, maybe she'd at least be funny.

by Anonymousreply 80April 25, 2024 1:06 AM

The 2024 climbing season on Mount Everest is in full swing this week as some expedition teams are arriving at Base Camp and others have begun acclimatization rotations on the peak.

As Outside recently reported, the official start on the mountain’s Nepali side is delayed this year due to dangerous conditions in the Khumbu Icefall. The circuitous route through the glacier that precedes the easier climbing up to Camp I and Camp II is longer than the one used in previous years, due to an unusually dry winter and a lack of snowfall.

The scheduling delay and new route aren’t the only dynamics impacting expeditions on the world’s highest peak this year. Competition from China has drawn some climbing teams away from the southern Base Camp in Nepal. And new rules and regulations imposed by the Nepali government will shift how some teams handle safety, decorum in Base Camp, and even poop.

More at link.

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by Anonymousreply 81April 25, 2024 10:08 PM

388 permits granted. That’s 185 more since last week but last year on this date, it was 454.

by Anonymousreply 82April 25, 2024 10:48 PM

17 deaths last year despite their claims that Everest is safer than ever. That's more than were killed in the earthquake and in the Ice Fall disaster.

by Anonymousreply 83April 26, 2024 5:35 AM

What was the Ice Fall disaster?

by Anonymousreply 84April 26, 2024 7:19 AM

R84 In 2014 I guess an avalanche killed a bunch of people in the already precarious icefall.

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by Anonymousreply 85April 26, 2024 2:20 PM

"What was the Ice Fall disaster?"

Ask Sasha Cohen.

by Anonymousreply 86April 26, 2024 11:51 PM

People are acting like the mountain belongs to them. If Nepal wasn’t so dependent on tourism, I wish they could ban tourists from climbing the mountain until they can clean up their mess that they created.

by Anonymousreply 87April 27, 2024 12:10 AM

Maybe you could volunteer to check if the climbers are cleaning up their mess at Camp 4, R87? I can see you now, staggering around and trying to screech 'pick up your shit', then getting mown down by an katabatic wind and tossed over the Kangshung Face.

by Anonymousreply 88April 27, 2024 5:28 AM

R88 So precise.

by Anonymousreply 89April 27, 2024 5:33 AM

[quote]R31 It's the descent that kills you. You're pretty wiped out at that point and you've been in the death zone for a long time and your body is dying the whole time you're up there.

Why don’t they construct a big, twisty plastic slide from the summit to the next camp down? Then people could get there quickly, without accidents.

The slide should be a bright color, so tired hikers can find it.

by Anonymousreply 90April 27, 2024 6:50 AM

Actually, you could make it like chutes and ladders, and they have to roll to get to the top.

by Anonymousreply 91April 27, 2024 4:15 PM

Big Picture

New Everest permits have slowed and will probably not set a record this spring. Nepal issued 38 new Everest permits this past week, bringing the total on Everest to 390.

Some teams are slowing down their rotation plans, waiting for Camps 2 and 3 to be established. They were delayed when the Icefall Doctors took an extra ten days to establish a route through the Icefall.

My Summit Coach clients tell me it is long, zig-zags a lot and feels dangerous with tall seracs hovering above the route in places. They will need to get through it as quickly as possible, but some reports take ten hours, almost twice as long as some last year.

Sherpas from Seven Summits Treks are steadily fixing the route up the Lhotse Face. IMG reports, “fixing teams reached the Yellow Band today, so they are making good progress on Lhotse Face. Hopefully, they will reach the South Col in the next couple of days.”

Some expect them to reach the summit in mid-May.The weather has been dry and cold thus far, but this is about to change. High winds could hamper some progress on Everest. I suspect the rope fixers will pause around May 1 to let a disturbance calm before reaching the South Col.

- Alan Arnette

by Anonymousreply 92April 28, 2024 3:28 AM

[QUOTE] My Summit Coach clients tell me it is long, zig-zags a lot and feels dangerous with tall seracs hovering above the route in places.

Promising, as long as they don't fall on any Sherpas

by Anonymousreply 93April 28, 2024 9:46 AM

[QUOTE] . I suspect the rope fixers will pause around May 1 to let a disturbance calm before reaching the South Col.

Basically the weather from hell is coming and everyone will be stuck in their tents for days chomping codeine for their Base Camp headaches.

by Anonymousreply 94April 28, 2024 9:48 AM

So the icefall is what's taking so long? FUCK THAT! What's the problem there? Also, don't they have to summit by mid May? I thought the window firmly slams around the 17-20. So if it's taking longer than that, they're screwed. Alright, shit's gonna start getting interesting. And what of our blind and deaf heroine? I hope she's doing well and enjoying the peace of not having to see piles of shit everywhere, and hear base camp transmissions.

by Anonymousreply 95April 28, 2024 2:01 PM

There MUST be a virtual Everst program by this point with a VR headset. That would be interesting to get even a little feel of the height and steepness and views.

by Anonymousreply 96April 28, 2024 5:01 PM

You’d need something to simulate the lack of oxygen

by Anonymousreply 97April 28, 2024 5:21 PM

How about that blackout game on tik tok R97? Play that shit with your vr headset on.

by Anonymousreply 98April 28, 2024 9:49 PM

Oh R88, great voice of reason. I hope you and your momma falls off the mountain.

by Anonymousreply 99April 28, 2024 11:16 PM

Climbing Everest used to be an even more dangerous pursuit than it is today, requiring huge bravery, endurance and skill. Even then the mountain could kill. A century ago, it claimed the lives of two of Britain’s finest gay climbers, George Mallory and Sandy Irvine.

The world’s highest mountain eventually succumbed to human challenge when, almost three decades later, Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay carried the flags of Britain, the UN, and Nepal to its summit on 29 May 1953. Sporadic trips involving handfuls of explorers continued over succeeding years.

But the slopes of Everest have been transformed in recent years. Its peaks and ridges are now regularly flooded with tourists vying to reach its 29,032ft (8,849 metre) summit. In 2023, more than 1,200 people – paying fees of around £40,000 a head – attempted the feat. Of these, more than 600 succeeded. A place once synonymous with remote, unsullied grandeur has become a high-end tourist trap, leaving its once pristine slopes littered with tattered tents, abandoned gear and human waste. Everest tourism may generate hundreds of millions of pounds for Nepal, but this comes at a heavy cost.

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by Anonymousreply 100April 30, 2024 2:22 AM

They seem to be way behind, they started on the 1st.

by Anonymousreply 101April 30, 2024 3:39 AM

" They were delayed when the Icefall Doctors took an extra ten days to establish a route through the Icefall" So they're behind, I think they should be at camp 3 now but they're still at 2.

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by Anonymousreply 102April 30, 2024 3:53 AM

So roughly half the people who pay the permit fee succeed in summiting. I’d like to see an article on the ones who turn back. Do they try again, do they feel like failures and that they wasted $40,000, or do they not allow themselves to believe that.

I once read a logbook that people wrote in describing their recent experience climbing a nearby mountain (average mountain, not the Himalayas). To do the trek, you had to climb all night, usually in the rain. The path was all mud. The goal was to arrive at the peak at dawn when the clouds parted enough to see the sunrise. Everyone—gung ho backpackers—wrote how terrible the climb was, how difficult it was doing it in the dark with just headlamps, lots of slipping in the mud, the incessant rain turning cold as you climbed higher BUT IT WAS ALL WORTH IT!!1! Except one brave soul wrote, No, it was truly awful and she wished she’d never done it. It wasn’t worth it.

by Anonymousreply 103April 30, 2024 10:41 AM

Ha R103, that one woman, that would be me. I wish I'd never done it, but at least I did! It used to be that people would use go fund me to pay for their Everest bullshit so if they didn't summit, no biggie. The icefall part and base camp would be almost worth it, at least you saw it.

by Anonymousreply 104April 30, 2024 3:21 PM

[quote]He is presumed dead as he was never seen again last season.

Yeah, I think that's a safe assumption. Everest, the mountain that proves "what goes up must come down" wrong.

by Anonymousreply 105April 30, 2024 5:43 PM

I finally came down!

by Anonymousreply 106April 30, 2024 6:27 PM

They brought green boots down?

by Anonymousreply 107April 30, 2024 6:29 PM

Oh, sorry, I guess they moved him. I thought they brought him all the way down.

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by Anonymousreply 108April 30, 2024 6:33 PM

In Into Thin Air, Jon Krakauker represents himself as just another hapless client, but he was actually a better technical climber than anyone on the expedition except for Anatoli Boukreev.

No wonder Jon shot up the mountain (second to summit after Anatoli) and then down at lightning speed, despite running out of oxygen between the Hilary Step and the Balcony.

by Anonymousreply 109May 3, 2024 5:51 AM

Yes R109. He was a serious contender. On another climb he would have been average but considering all the rookies in that year's expedition, he was really good.

by Anonymousreply 110May 4, 2024 3:03 AM

Our blind girl was almost not able to go!

"The Nepal Supreme Court has done good work with respect to climbing, such as in 2016 when they struck down a new rule to ban climbers above 75 years of age, double amputees, and the visually impaired. This ruling appears to have been implemented."

Let the bottleneck begin!

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by Anonymousreply 111May 4, 2024 3:27 AM

R111 Golly, how utterly silly.

by Anonymousreply 112May 4, 2024 3:32 AM

Oh there's a doc about the most insane part of the mountain.

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by Anonymousreply 113May 4, 2024 3:41 AM

Looks like all the rules/laws that Nepal implements are easily ignored.

by Anonymousreply 114May 4, 2024 5:12 AM

Lucy wanted to climb Mount Everest but Gary talked her out of it.

by Anonymousreply 115May 4, 2024 5:22 AM

Buck, on the other hand, would never climb Mt Everest.

by Anonymousreply 116May 4, 2024 5:33 AM

Viv was all set to be Lucy's Sherpa.

by Anonymousreply 117May 4, 2024 5:34 AM

Nepal is a beautiful country. I went in 2015 and had a great time.

by Anonymousreply 118May 4, 2024 5:36 AM

I would love to visit, r118.

I was friends with a guy in college whose dad taught at the American university in Kathmandu. He said it was a beautiful place, unlike any other on earth.

by Anonymousreply 119May 4, 2024 8:57 PM

R119 I’m inclined to agree with him. I saw so many beautiful sites there and the people were really warm and friendly. The food was delicious too.

by Anonymousreply 120May 4, 2024 10:01 PM

I would live to visit Bhutan. The architecture is magical. 🤗

by Anonymousreply 121May 4, 2024 10:56 PM

Poor, hot, and dirty never makes for a beautiful destination.

by Anonymousreply 122May 4, 2024 10:57 PM

Don’t write off Nepal just because it’s between China and India. It’s a beautiful country,

by Anonymousreply 123May 4, 2024 11:19 PM

40-year-old Norwich City FC boss developed HAPE at Base Camp and had to be coptered back to hospital in Kathmandu.

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by Anonymousreply 124May 5, 2024 5:43 PM

It’s one thing to develop HAPE at Camp 2 but Base Camp? Clearly, his body was having none of it.

by Anonymousreply 125May 5, 2024 6:01 PM

Yeah, HAPE at base camp? I mean Base Camp is high for most normal people and you need to acclimate, but people trying to scale Everest, you'd think they would be so acclimated.

by Anonymousreply 126May 5, 2024 7:03 PM

Yeah, that's such a waste. I wonder how much he paid and how pissed the people who sponsored him are.

"I was rushed to hospital where, fortunately, I received the treatment I desperately needed.

The doctor told me I was very lucky I got there in time – these words haunt me as I know what I could lose.

I have been told I cannot go back up the mountain because the risk of it happening again so soon is too high."

He literally just walked around base camp.

by Anonymousreply 127May 5, 2024 11:46 PM

Base Camp is at 5300m altitude! A lot of us would suffer there. I got mild altitude sickness on the summit of Mount Teide (migraine and lethargy) and that is 3775m.

by Anonymousreply 128May 7, 2024 8:31 AM

We have the first Everest summits of the spring 2024 season. Adrian Ballinger of Alpenglow, now in Chengdu on his way to Chinese Base Camp on the Tibet side, tells me the Tibetan rope fixing team summited today, May 7, opening the route to all climbers.

This was expected, given China allowed Chinese climbers to be on Everest weeks ahead of foreigners. Citing national holidays and other delays, foreigners were prohibited from entering Tibet until May 7, but there was speculation that the rope team was working on the route.

On the Nepal side, it’s a mixed bag of activities. Climbers are still on acclimatization rotations, some resting in base camp waiting for the rope and weather window, and some have dropped back to lower villages like Namache or Lukla. A few have taken helicopters back to Kathmandu for a high-end R&R. In any event, look for summits on the Nepal side as early as this upcoming weekend, weather permitting.

For those trying to follow climbers on the Nepal side, note that the Internet is spotty this year, so we have long periods of since. Rest assured, all is well, and assume the best.

On both sides, climbers can expect more difficult climbing this spring due to the warm, dry winter that left the mountain with less than usual snow and more than usual exposed rock, thus rock fall is more likely.

- Alan Arnette

by Anonymousreply 129May 7, 2024 9:09 PM

Annette reports the first death on an 8000 metre peak this year - a Sherpa on Makalu.

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by Anonymousreply 130May 9, 2024 7:02 AM

Damn. hate when Sherpas die.

by Anonymousreply 131May 9, 2024 7:16 AM

[quote]R130 Annette reports the first death on an 8000 metre peak this year -

YAY!

[quote]a Sherpa on Makalu.

Oh no : (

by Anonymousreply 132May 9, 2024 8:12 AM

Oh no.

by Anonymousreply 133May 9, 2024 1:48 PM

I think I would prefer to climbb from the Chinese side, no matter how exposed it is - no Icefall.

by Anonymousreply 134May 9, 2024 1:49 PM

Me, too, r131.

Mostly because I know it was some entitled twat that caused it.

by Anonymousreply 135May 9, 2024 6:21 PM

The north route is much more technical and the distance between Base Camp and the other camps is a true slog. Joe Tasker and Pete Boardman were caught out there. They thought it was easier than it was and died trying to summit without oxygen.

by Anonymousreply 136May 10, 2024 4:29 AM

Now who's going to carry my coffee maker up this hill?

by Anonymousreply 137May 10, 2024 4:41 AM

Any word on the blind girl summiting yet?

by Anonymousreply 138May 12, 2024 3:08 PM

Really not much news on the Arnette blog. Is there another one to follow?

by Anonymousreply 139May 12, 2024 7:33 PM

Ukrainian climber Valentyn Sypavin, 41, became the first foreigner to summit Everest this spring.

As many as fifty people made the summit of Everest on Monday morning, May 13th.

Two Mongolian climbers are missing. Usukhjargal Tsedendamba, 31 and Purevsuren Lkhagvajav, 53, were using base camp-only services from 8K Expeditions and climbing together without supplemental oxygen or Sherpa support. They left for the summit from the South Col at 8:45 a.m. on May 13 and haven’t been heard from since.

by Anonymousreply 140May 15, 2024 10:49 AM

Yes, that's why we're here R140! Good for them, not using oxygen, their deaths will be remembered in a more heroic way than pussies who use it.

by Anonymousreply 141May 15, 2024 1:53 PM

[QUOTE] Two Mongolian climbers are missing. Usukhjargal Tsedendamba, 31 and Purevsuren Lkhagvajav, 53, were using base camp-only services from 8K Expeditions and climbing together without supplemental oxygen or Sherpa support.

Idiots!

by Anonymousreply 142May 15, 2024 6:45 PM

Their bodies have been found. They had been climbing during high winds.

More climbers summited on May 13th and 15th, bringing the total to 97 Everest summits from the Nepal side

most teams are targeting May 19-21

From previous year’s deaths, the Nepal Army, on a cleaning mission, recovered a body on Lhotse and another on Everest. They will be delivered to the Tribhuvan University Teaching Hospital’s forensic lab in Kathmandu. The twelve-member cleaning team aims to retrieve five bodies and ten tons of trash from Everest.

by Anonymousreply 143May 17, 2024 9:34 PM

Wow, 19-21 sounds really late. I thought they usually liked to be done by the 13th.

by Anonymousreply 144May 17, 2024 10:37 PM

I wonder if any paranormal investigators have studied Everest. A lot of death. Surely it's a hot spot for hauntings.

by Anonymousreply 145May 18, 2024 12:01 AM

[QUOTE]The twelve-member cleaning team aims to retrieve five bodies and ten tons of trash from Everest.

This almost sounds like joke. Twelve men for 10 tons of trash?

Conditions are bad and there'sstill a massive push to summit.

[QUOTE]Climbers Michal Ryszard Wensierski of the UK and Purba Sherpa of Makalu Adventure first notified rescuers about the bodies’ location. The Makalu Adventure pair summited on Wednesday despite bad weather and reportedly saw the deceased Mongolians near the South Summit. Today’s rescue patrol located the remains of the first climber then scouted the summit area and peered toward the Tibetan side of the mountain.

[QUOTE]Conditions are presently tough on Everest. Lakpa Sherpa said that the rescuers had to climb in very bad weather. Despite this, many teams gathered in Camp 2 are heading up to higher camps. Sherpa staff need to enlarge and supply Camp 4 at 7,900m in preparation for the massive summit push to begin this weekend. May 19-22 will be very busy days on Everest.

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