Linda Evangelista was Overrated.

All I wanted was a little coolsculpting!

As a 7-8 year old I used to read my grandmother's little Neiman Marcus catalogues- and i thought Yasmeen was the most beautiful woman that I had ever seen.

I can still smell that foyer and see that table where the mailman would leave those catalogues.

(Random-Christa McCauliffe (sp? The late astronaut/teacher actually lived across the street- no joke)

Stephanie Seymour. Laetitia Casta. Yasmin LeBon.

I always thought she had an ugly nose.

fucken garjus

I'm thin and gorgeous once again......and not to blame for anything ever

I liked her more like this

No one had her versatility. She was a supermodel, and didn’t pretend to be anything else. She loved clothes and fashion and photographed incredibly well.

Kate Moss?!

I can't believe the OP put Shalom Harlow, Kate Moss and Kristen McMenemy on the list while omitting Christie Turlington. Credibility questioned.

Models, super or not, only have a limited shelf life. She tried to extend hers with a new experimental technique and it failed. I have little sympathy for her.

^Sorry, the should be Christy. Autocorrect doesn't like this spelling.

"Beauty and the Seven Beasts":

I thought Cindy Crawford, Carla Bruni, Elle Macpherson, and Heidi Klum were overrated.

The most stunning ones were Claudia Schiffer, Karen Mulder, Paulina Porizkova, Niki Taylor, and Helena Christensen, IMO.

You shut your dirty whore mouth, OP!

Linda was absolutely gorgeous. Glad to see she found ozempic

Wrong, OP.

Thank the Ozempic gods for removing the possibility of gaining middle aged spread

She was one of the best and even she was forced to marry and procreate with dwarfs to achieve the success she had

N0, she wasn't.

R14 Cindy Crawford was gorgeous.

Yes. She was.

[quote] The greatest fashion models of the 1990s were Naomi Campbell, Shalom Harlow, [bold]Yasmeen Ghauri[/bold] …

This chick analyzes the walks of different models. She states Ghauri’s is the hardest to explain and recreate:

I’m not sure that worked : (

oh dear

Linda Evangelista looked well bred. It was an upscale refined look.

Claudia Schiffer, Cindy Crawford looked common in comparison.

She was super annoying in Isaac Mizrahi's documentary.

Blaspheme!

I never found her as startlingly beautiful as Christy, Cindy or Naomi. But prettier than Helena Christensen or McNemany.

I love Linda now. She is adorable actually. Just a mensch.

She was supposedly a whiny drag.

She stole some other model’s husband away from her (Jeanette Christiansen?), and had to wait while this lady cleared her stuff out one afternoon. Evangelista complained and complained about having to wait outside in the rain.

[italic]Go to a cafe, bitch![/italic] Or buy a movie ticket.

R31- I said NOW..... she seems cool

Kate Moss hit the wall hard age 36. She looks like hell now.

Linda is a goddess with many different looks. Live her.

She mostly appeals to gay men.

She's had bad work done too, r33. Her last eye job has left he looking permanently startled.

Ypir was the greatest model of that era. Duh!

[quote]R32 I said NOW..... she seems cool

Who cares about her now?

I had a friend who looked like Linda E., but my friend was actually prettier. Even the mouth, smile, and teeth were the same.

Yasmeen Ghauri was probably the most beautiful, IMO. She had an amazing body, super small waist. Her walk was amazing.

I've also seen interviews of Yasmeen. She seems really down-to-earth, not full of herself. She seems pretty intelligent, as well.

At 92 years old Carmen Dell'Orefice has them all beat.

I remember my brother picking up a magazine with this shot of Helena on the cover and just staring at her for ages.

She gave an interview on the BBC recently, and appears to have gained some self knowledge.

She had resting bitch-face. Still has it.

R42- This is what I mean. I really like her now.

Yasmeen was one of my favorite models- she had an an amazing body, but it wasn't vulgar.

💯, OP.

I have always HATED her teeth (admittedly, I'm weird about teeth and nasty-looking mouth areas). Totally ruined her look imo--in addition to being an arrogant bitch.

Ole gingivitis-looking heffa.

[quote]I have always HATED her teeth (admittedly, I'm weird about teeth and nasty-looking mouth areas). Totally ruined her look imo--in addition to being an arrogant bitch.

Her quirky features were what made her visually interesting. The whole overall look just worked.

[quote] She mostly appeals to gay men.

If only they had any influence over the industry.

I don't see what's wrong with her teeth? Slightly small? The top right side (her left) look kind of weird, but the front teeth are straight.

I always thought that Helena Christensen looked dirty. Maybe she appealed more to straight guys. Linda was great because she wasn't afraid to completely change her look, even at peak popularity.

I thought Christensen looked better as a blonde.

Shalom > Linda. Both could pull off a retro vibe very well but Shalom was infinitely more versatile, a true actress. And she could walk for the gods. There was nothing special about Linda's walk.

I think Shalom Harlow had the nicest face. If I had to pick a face to have, it would be hers.

Yeah She has a similar facial structure to Grace Kelly, with larger more exotic eyes.

r42 To me she sounds like a (kind of stupid) teenager who's been told what to say to not sound tone deaf....

What was interesting about Evangelista is, whether it was her teeth or her long nose, there was something kind of rat-like about her face.

The really, amazingly striking models usually have something about them that breaks through the traditional “pretty pretty” mode.

Evangelista also was a success because she was devotedly ambitious. That counts for a lot. I once studied with a famous playwright who said, “I wasn’t the most talented out of my class at Yale School of Drama, but I wanted it the most.”

I read an article about Linda when she was 28. At that time and for her profession, 28 was old. She said things could not be more high-maintenance, looks-wise, which probably felt true at the time.

[quote]Evangelista also was a success because she was devotedly ambitious. That counts for a lot.

That was a big part of it. Supposedly she was obsessed with clothes and fashion from a very young age. She had good looks and the right height for modeling, and was determined to get out of small-town Canada and make it big.

I feel sorry for her because of the cool sculpting. But I always thought her nose and long nostrils were a major flaw.

[quote]R56 Evangelista also was a success because she was devotedly ambitious. That counts for a lot.

[quote]R58That was a big part of it… [she] was determined to get out of small-town Canada and make it big.

Jeanette Christiansen‘s marriage that Evangelista broke up was with their shared modeling agent John Casablancas. When Evangelista was done with him she married another powerful agent, Gérald Marie.

So yes, she went the extra mile.

Didn't Gerald Marie turn out to be a sexual predator?

For a while, Linda Evangelista was the most beautiful woman

Gisele Bundchen and Kate Moss also didn't have conventionally pretty faces.

Gisele's eyes are close together. Kate Moss's eyes are really far apart.

Gisele has a large nose. Kate Moss had kind of busted-looking teeth.

Kate Moss was short and bow-legged.

Gisele did have an amazing body.

Both had je ne sais quois.

[quote]R61 Didn't Gerald Marie turn out to be a sexual predator?

Yes. The French court decided the 15 accusers had let the statute of limitations run out. One of the plaintiffs was the gorgeous Carré Otis.

No idea if Evangelista procured fellow models for him during their marriage:

Brenda Dickson was THE supermodel of the 90’s.

Wasn't John Casablancas also predatory, though Gerald Marie-lite, using the old-fashioned carrot approach or coercion rather than outright forcibly raping teen models? I didn't know she also was involved with Casablancas -- a little more damning.

[QUOTE]No idea if Evangelista procured fellow models for him during their marriage:

I have wondered, and now her association with Casablancas, too, raises an eyebrow. But it would mean competition for her, unless she saw impressionable underage girls as cast-offs she could bring home to please her masters for better bookings. Gislane Maxwell was hopelessly in love with Jeffrey Epstein and sought teen flesh to keep him happy.

Didn't she issue some "I had no idea" apology about Marie a couple of years back? I'd love to know how much she knew.

[quote]R67 Didn't she issue some "I had no idea" apology about Marie a couple of years back? I'd love to know how much she knew.

She knew at least as much as Georgina Chapman knew.

ie, a LOT.

[quote]Wasn't John Casablancas also predatory

He was at the very least a sleazebag.

2022 article

When Casablancas was 50, he married a 16 year old.

R45, what is a "vulgar" body?

Nadja and Kristen

Yasmeen Ghauri is considered to have a good walk? That rolling hips walk? Sure it’s very dramatic but is that how she walked wearing an evening gown?

You missed out Helena Christiansen.

I think she is/ was a great beauty. But she lost me when she blamed her loss of looks on bad plastic surgery etc. Her looks were compromised because she gained a lot of weight! Simple. Looks like (recent pic in the thread) that she has lost the weight and bingo, she’s a beauty again.

It was a striking walk but she overused it. Very beautiful woman.

But the model men wanted to sleep with in the 90’s was Cindy Crawford

I never liked Shalom Harlow all that much. I know im in the minority with that.

Linda’s looks were/are so intense. Great for modeling but just too much for me.

Kate Moss was meh. Helena didn’t appeal. That German girl, the one who did the jeans ads, her jaw was so heavy it distracted me.

I think I just liked the more commercial looking ones. Nikki, Cindy and Christy. I always enjoyed looking at their pictures.

[quote]But the model men wanted to sleep with in the 90’s was Cindy Crawford

Cindy’s appeal was more all-American hot girl next door. Linda’s look was more European high-fashion.

She did gain quite a bit of weight…which is why she got the ill-fated Coolsculpting in the first place. At least there’s Ozempic now and she’s thin again.

Kate Moss always looked dirty to me

r74 yeah if she was wearing the evening gown on a runway. its a theatrical walk. Becasue a fashion show is a theatrical presentation. Are you new to the world? have you never seen a runway show before?

R72, Kim Kardashian. You put Yasmeen in skimpy/tight clothing and she looks elegant. Kim looks vulgar.

She was stunning when she was modeling.

However, I've always thought that her looks and weight gain were karma - or at least many people in the fashion industry would look at it as karma - for her being a nasty piece of work in how she treated other people.

She always came across as a deadly combination of vapid and arrogant when she spoke, and there were always stories of her behaving badly.

[quote]But the model men wanted to sleep with in the 90’s was Cindy Crawford

It’s already been established that Linda appealed primarily to gay men.

Kate was considered the “coolest”, especially among younger people, probably because of her associations with rockers and Depp pre….ruin. Christy was probably the most objectively beautiful, in terms of having a perfect face/figure. I liked Yasmeen, Helena (who I always thought was what Cameron Diaz would look like if she was beautiful), Shalom, Naomi and Amber as well. Stephanie and Cindy seemed to have the straight guy appeal locked down, and Claudia looked rather uncanny valley Barbie at times.

John Casablancas was a legendary POS in pretty much all aspects of his life. About half the songs his son Julian (yes, of The Strokes) has put out are about how cruel and absent of a father he was. He seemed like a deluded sociopath, if that (very cleaned up!) Netflix doc is anything to go by. One of his kids - Fernando - is a male model and quite femme. Was briefly married to one of those gay influencers some people love to talk about here.

The Supermodel Archetype. Linda had more versatility than any of her peers. She had "it".

[quote]I always thought that Helena Christensen looked dirty.

[quote]I thought Christensen looked better as a blonde.

There wasn't anything extraordinary about her - she looked best when Michael Hutchence was standing next to her.

Is Christensen the one that went really bonkers?

She's well. What does "really bonkers" mean?

Some model from that era underwent complete collapse. I don’t remember which one it was.

No your thinking of Karen Mulder maybe.

*you’re

Yeah its karen mulder.

She accused Prince Albert of sexually abusing her

I mean... he probably did.

I've always thought that Helena Christiansen and Cameron Diaz looked alike.

The fact that Cindy Crawford was the straight guys' hot demonstrates the difference between modeling and what straight guys prefer - they prefer Maxim (pre-plastic surgery Megan Fox) while modeling prefers a different type.

Cindy Crawford was the gorgeous girl next door who was lucky enough to cross over to runway, while pure fashion girls were thinner, smaller boobs and ass, with more "alien" bone strucure. Fashion likes odd and alien.

I think Elle McPherson was the most overrated one. She mostly did swimsuit work, and she had the body for it…but she was really a butterface.

Helena Christiansen dated the lead singer of Interpol for ten years. He was a decade younger than her.

Wicked Game

Most runway models are far too tall and thin and shapeless to appeal to straight men. Most of them look like trannies, especially as they age. The likes of Linda and Christy with their sharp bones and nearly 6’ tall frames definitely catch the eye of gay male designers though.

And the designers have ultimate say in who wears their clothes.

None of them were as photogenic as Kitara Ravache. She SLAYED!

Yup, the Wicked Game video w/Chris Isaak put Helena on the map and presented her in a sexy way. Her face looked vapid in its expression, though.

R104 found a joke to make and no matter how dim and unfunny his joke, he's going to make it over and over on multiple threads. ROFL hardeeharhar.

Christy Turlington has a nephew who is a model and looks just like her. Her own kids are, let’s say …less than model material.

[quote]R103 The likes of Linda and Christy with their sharp bones and nearly 6’ tall frames

I believe Turlington was rather short, by modeling standards. A google search says she’s 5’10” but I don’t think that’s true.

I could be mixing her up with someone else, of course.

James Turlington - wow.

Marcus was my favourite male supermodel back in the 90s.

[quote]I believe Turlington was rather short, by modeling standards. A google search says she’s 5’10” but I don’t think that’s true. I could be mixing her up with someone else, of course.

She’s the same height as the other supers of the era… seen here with Linda, Cindy, and Naomi.

You’re thinking of Kate Moss, who was short by modeling standards.

Kate Moss is 5'7" which is very short in the fashion modelling world.

Lila, Kate's daughter, is even shorter.

She's telegenic, but not particularly photogenic.

How tall was former supermodel, Pam Dawber? She never seemed that tall to me on Mork and Minday, but she was a huge model in the 1970s!

Nobody is doing that potato-faced kid Lila Moss a favour affirming that she is a beautiful woman and a model.

Kate Moss’ daughter is a fug nepo-baby who has no business being considered a “model”

Hate to say it, but Kate's daughter looks like the glamorous version of Bella Ramsey.

Linda’s son is average looking.

Good Lord. That Lila Moss has a balloon face. Is she on steroids?

I think she's tremendous

Kate had a unique and striking look. Lila looks like a blob.

Lila would be one of the rare few who would benefit from buccal fat removal.

No she wouldn't. It would be even more silk purse out of a sow's ear.

That poor girl has none of Kate’s bone structure, which is really the ONLY supermodel feature Kate herself possessed.

A long time ago I read a piece that made fun of Claudia Schiffer’s walk, it said she clomped down the runway. I just watched a clip of her highlights and it didn’t seem so but what do I know. I did notice that her face was animated, she smiled a lot, unlike a lot of models then and now, who are completely blank so as to not compete with the clothes?

Claudia Schiffer was a 2nd-tier model. She’s wasn’t as in-demand as Linda, Christy, and Naomi. But definitely above D-list.

Claudia was definitely as big as the others. She was the face of guess, Chanel and shared revlon with Cindy Crawford. She had workout tapes and calendars. She dated David copper field. Claudia and Cindy wee probably the 2 modes best known to the general heterosexual public in the 1990s and were household names

Claudia was huge: Opening many shows, especially Chanel. I remember reading an article about how Claudia, Princess Diana and two other supermodels got the most magazine covers.

David Copperfield was creepy, and Claudia doesn't look good right now, with the severe long hair parted in the middle.

[QUOTE]She dated David copper field.

This is not in any way a positive representation of Claudia Schiffer. It makes her look pathetic, actually.

Twat at r128 I wasn't mentioning it because it was positive or negative it was a facet of her fame at the time and how public her life was and how covered by the press she was. Claudia might have been second tier in your head, and you might not have been impressed with her boyfriends, but your opinion doesn't change the fact that she was head to head with Cindy Crawford as the most commercially succesful breakthrough fashion models on the early 90s.

[QUOTE] Most runway models are far too tall and thin and shapeless to appeal to straight men. Most of them look like trannies, especially as they age

Karlie Kloss (6ft 2) being one of them. She was tranny looking by 25. The 5ft 7 girls like Sara Sampaio stay cute.

[QUOTE] Most runway models are far too tall and thin and shapeless to appeal to straight men. Most of them look like trannies, especially as they age

Cindy Crawford looks like Caitlyn Jenner these days.

Helena had Michael for five years, but fewer than two before he had the TBI.

Very sad.

[quote]David Copperfield was creepy, and Claudia doesn't look good right now

Her choice of men is....interesting. She's currently dating Matthew Vaughn?

R106 has never posted anything funny. Ever.

Karen Mulder, Brandi Quinones, Christy, and Helena are the prettiest to me

[quote]Claudia doesn't look good right now, with the severe long hair parted in the middle.

It ages her. I wonder what her natural hair looks like.

She’s probably gray now but Claudia is as close to a natural blonde as a person gets. She hails from one of the few countries that produces natural blondes as well. Normally when women go that blonde it looks unnatural because it’s too far from their own hair color. Not so with Claudia.

No love for Nadja Auermann?

R138 see R73

[quote]R110 She’s the same height as the other supers of the era… seen here with Linda, Cindy, and Naomi.

Maybe what I read (and it was in a big article, like in Vanity Fair or something) was that Turlington was considered somewhat short when she was discovered at age 14 or whatever, but they rolled the dice on her continuing to grow because she was so special.

The possibility remains that I imagined this.

Shalom's runway was always incredible. She took on a different character for every outfit, she could be sexy, sassy, ladylike or too cool for school, with the sexiest smirk and those incredible hypnotic eyes

All of them were pros.

R115 Mick Jagger and Jerry Hall's daughter Georgia is another fug nepo baby who shouldn't be modeling.

R143, ewww

But Georgia is not a potato face.

All bets are off when this thing can be considered a model:

Georgia is often styled as a morph of Jane Birkin and Bardot with a dash of Vanessa Paradis. I don't mind the gap tooth but overall the teefs are a bit much. She should pull them in and straighten them out and shave them down, and keep the gap.

Lourdes is the ultimate nepokid, not a real model and certainly more attractive than Kate Moss' offspring!

Hard to top Nadja Auermann and Thierry Mugler in the 90s.

^Wow, her legs look very thick and she has slumpy shoulders and a heavy neck.

A deformed monster.

Wow, at r149. Stunning.

Georgia needs to close her mouth. It's not because she has a gap in her front teeth, but because her mouth looks unnatural open and the pose gives her a mouth-breather look.

Lourdes, Georgia and Lila wouldn't make it beyond the reception desk of even the smallest agency if it weren't for their parents. They wouldn't even be employed as a receptionist at a modelling agency.

I keep reading this as Linda Evans was Overrated.

[QUOTE]She's currently dating Matthew Vaughn?

She's been married to him for over 20 years and they have three children. He supposedly had an affair with the actress who played Jon Hamm's wife (cannot remember the name) and fathered her child Maybe that's what threw you off?

Thick legs on Nadja?!! Are you blind, Helen Keller? She has the longest legs in the business and moreover, they are well proportioned, neither sticks, nor spindly, nor thick. Quite striking. Long tapering tubes.

Georgia maybe because even though she isn't French she perfectly suits that French riche-bobo jolie laide. Just like Birkin's daughter Lou Doillon. It's not that they are beautiful its that they are so baba chic

Thank you, r157. As I've gotten older I have more trouble remembering names and I stubbornly refuse to Google, hoping I'll remember. (dementias on both sides of family) I can give you all sorts of biographical info, but no name.

How fucking dare you. This bitch was IT. Every time I watch clips of Linda from the '90s I'm completely mesmerized and want her to be the mother of my child (and I'm gay and hate children). Cindy Crawford is my runner up but Cindy still looked human--albeit a freakishly beautiful human--whereas Linda looked like something from out of this world. STUPIDLY gorgeous and I'll cut a bitch who says otherwise.

I agree and now she’s disfigured

Shalom Harlow plays the girlfriend in In and Out. She's actually funny.

No love for the late Tatjana Patitz? She was in George Michael's Freedom music video?

Freedom 90 got George Michael at his vocal best and the models at their loveliest.

Interesting that the overrated Janice Dickensian hasn't rated a mention yet. Never understood the appeal. She had beady eyes.

Janice was not part of that era. She predated that era.

IMO, Shalom was the best-looking (face), but Linda did capture the zeitgeist.

Helene Christiansen is still exquisite in her 50s.

Anyone who says Linda Evangelista is overrated is an idiot.

Catherine Deneuve was beautiful.

Linda cutting her hair changed everything

I figured OP would set off a ruckus by putting Kristen McMenemy on the list but nobody seems to care about her? Not pretty, exactly, but I thought she was a lot more interesting as a model than some of these women (e.g., Cindy Crawford, boredom on heels).

Cindy Crawford was beautiful.