McDonald’s $25 ‘deal’ goes viral, sparks debate over California’s minimum wage increase: ‘Your new normal’

Price gouging by huge corporations.

KFC has a six piece bucket with four large sides for less than that.

Blame the $20 an hour worker for all ills. The newest political party game in town.

[quote]While the meal is designed to serve four people

But, it only comes with two large fries? So, the implication is that a large fry is designed for two people, not just one. Yet, they try to Supersize you when you buy fries.

What kind of fat trash expects a fucking buffet for $25?

[quote]However, there's concern that this new law, which went into effect on April 1, may have a more complicated impact on the local economy.

Stupidest statement EVAH.

Only an absolute moron with no understanding of economics or finance would think that raising the minimum wage to that level would not have a "complicated impact on the local economy." Just how stupid are people if they think it wouldn't have massive unintended consequences, including massive price increases and businesses closures.

Americans R5.

People have been raising the minimum wage for years without destroying local economies R6, so fuck you.

I say this every time this topic comes up. Some jobs are just not meant to be $15-$25 an hour jobs. You get cheap food because the businesses employ cheap labor.

The annual salary in Switzerland of an employee starts around 40,000 USD equivalent.

This is the current meal deal, and it's more generous than the one mentioned above in the USA.

It would seem to me that the USA is experiencing price gouging, and the corporate structure there is unwilling to take knocks to profits and dividends to accommodate a fair wage. It's being blame on the workers - fuck them - how very dare they make a living wage. And fuck the consumer - you'll just have to pay MORE MORE MORE so we at the top can keep getting what we expect in wage and dividend.

Its a god damn libtard Brandon conspiracy ta keep us under 400 lbs!

[quote]People have been raising the minimum wage for years without destroying local economies [R6], so fuck you.

We've apparently now heard from one of the morons who does not understand finance or economics who thought that raising the minimum wage by 30% would not result in a massive increase in prices and business closures.

[quote]According to a report by the National Restaurant Association, the average profit margin for fast food restaurants is around 5-8%. This means that for every dollar of sales, the restaurant earns 5-8 cents in profit. However, some fast food chains have profit margins as high as 20%.

Some basic financial modeling would show what a huge impact raising minimum wage by that much would be.

It was ALWAYS going to have huge repercussions on fast food businesses and, in turn, local economcies.

[quote] Only an absolute moron with no understanding of economics or finance would think that raising the minimum wage to that level would not have a "complicated impact on the local economy."

You rang ?

R6 is a Republican who probably believes in trickle down economics, yet calls other people stupid

R9, and yet foreign countries can pay people the equivalent of that. Why can't America?

Weird how right-wingers complain about this, but don't complain about CEOs making millions

Right-wingers are brainwashed to hate the poor and kiss the asses of the rich

It's 40 McNuggets! How much does a 10-piece cost?

Their prices are high and their quality is LOW.

Even in 1972 their quality was not high but still far better than it is now. No high fructose corn syrup in the buns and the ketchup and the mayonnaise and the relish and the mustard. I'm sure the meat wasn't pumped up with antibiotics and growth hormones yet.

Anti-labor propaganda

I think seeing 40 McNuggets all in one place would make me ill.

Buy an organic rotisserie chicken at Whole Foods for 12. Buy some potato salad and coleslaw or make it with those packaged slaw bags. Make lemonade to drink. Slightly less money and real food.

[quote][R6] is a Republican who probably believes in trickle down economics, yet calls other people stupid

No, r6, history has proven that the Laffer Curve over-simplifies and makes some assumptions that simply are not valid in the real world.

Mcdonald's made $14 BILLION in profit last year. Surely, they could afford to pay their employees a bit more.

If you close the dining room and automate ordering thru apps you can run the whole joint with just two employees. All drive thru only. Up the price for "premium dining times". It's already in effect in some cities.

It's the POORS stupid!

Stop eating this rancid poison in the first place. They can't raise prices if they don't have customers to sell to. There. Problem solved.

[quote]Blame the $20 an hour worker for all ills. The newest political party game in town.

On the flip side are people solely blaming corporations, so apparently it's a multi-player game.

[quote]Mcdonald's made $14 BILLION in profit last year. Surely, they could afford to pay their employees a bit more.

Is it possible for someone not to know that the majority of the employees working at McDonald's restaurants are employed by the franchisees, not the McDonald's corporation?

[quote]Mcdonald's made $14 BILLION in profit last year. Surely, they could afford to pay their employees a bit more.

Your ignorance is showing once again.

[quote]There are a total of 2,770 company-owned locations and 35,085 franchised locations,

McDonald's Corp does not make money from selling hamburgers to customers directly: "The company makes money by leveraging its product, fast food, to franchisees who have to lease properties, often at large markups, that are owned by McDonald's."

It's more a real estate company and wholesaler of food to it's franchisees. They don't worry about minimum wage paid to fast food workers.

[quote]California is home to nearly 1,300 McDonald's restaurants, more than 230 owner/operators, and more than 70,000 restaurant crew and managers

A de minimus fraction of all McDonald's worldwide.

[quote]Blame the $20 an hour worker for all ills.

That post was clearly talking about small businesses, not corporations. Multi-billion dollar corporations can definitely afford a $20 minimum wage. Small businesses? Not so much. Raising the minimum wage to that amount creates an environment where only large multi-billion dollar corporations will thrive, while small businesses will fail and close down. It would make more sense to tailor the minimum wage required based upon the earnings of each business individually.

Hell, if our income is taken into consideration before an application for credit or a mortgage is approved, they should apply the same system to businesses to decide what is the minimum wage they are required to pay their employees. A blanket minimum wage for all businesses is not the answer and helps the very entities it aims to humble (large corporations).

The $20 an hour worker is the necessary correction to labour and the realities of a VERY RICH post industrial economy. That doesn't even have universal affordable or almost free health care, and affordable higher education.

The $14 BILLION in profit last year has room to accommodate the worker.

I don't give a shit about the McDonald's customer or the future of McDonalds profit over everything model, however. If they insist on serving a bucket of GREASE for 25 USD in California and some fool is willing to buy it, I guess this will work out well for everyone. If nobody wants to buy that deal, fuck McDonald's for not figuring it out. Don't blame some worker making a living wage.

In short, the offer - the ingredients and quality and lack of variety - is cynical and repulsive and fuck McDonalds for making it. Don't blame this on the worker.

R28 is correct. Ray Kroc used to say he was not in the business of selling hamburgers, he was in the real estate business.

No one is "blaming" workers.

The situation is FAR from reaching a new equilibrium point. Only time will tell what the total impact will be and whether the increase in minimum wage will result in a net positive or negative impact.

What I AM saying is that price increases, layoffs, and business closures were a very predictable outcome in the short-term. How these ultimately play out is too complicated to say without more time and data.

I'm not willing to say that raising minimum wage was a poor decision...yet. What I am saying is that before it reaches any stable and positive situation, there's going to be a lot of economic pain and upheaval at the microeconomic level before there is wide, lasting macroeconomic benefits.

The McDonald's brand is all over this. They could be in the real estate business, the fast food business, the dildo business. But the mother fuckers gotta pay a more livable wage to their workers.

[quote]The annual salary in Switzerland of an employee starts around 40,000 USD equivalent.

[quote]and yet foreign countries can pay people the equivalent of that. Why can't America?

I hate it when people do this. The US is 238 times bigger than Switzerland. Switzerland is about the size of Massachusetts. Switzerland has about 9 million people about the population of Virginia. You cannot compare what happens in Switzerland to the United States.

And I'm not blaming the workers. But this has a major impact on small business. But some of you can't get past your corporation hatred to see who really gets hurt in these matters.

40 nuggets for 4 people.

I can't fathom eating 10 (TEN!) nuggets in one sitting. 3 or 4, yes. But 10?????

My stomach just cramped up at the thought.

The Swiss meal and the workers' salaries were offered for comparison purposes. It's very cynical for USA McDonald's to charge 25 dollars for a bucket of grease and the for newspapers and pundits to blame this situation on the $20 living wage worker.

No one needs 40 chicken nuggets. The most one person should eat is maybe 4. Unless you're feeding a family of 10, why would anyone buy that many?

[quote]No one needs 40 chicken nuggets. The most one person should eat is maybe 4.

Please go somewhere and sit down.

seriously was that nugget and fries "meal" really advertised as that - a "meal"? Or is this all spin.

This is a gay website made up of uppity men. Families have different needs.

I assume you're always sitting down, r39. How's that mobility scooter?

4 nuggets? That’s a kids meal. 4 small pieces of chicken is not a meal.

[quote] So, the implication is that a large fry

Large fry is so ghetto.

Biden is losing this...It's Hillary2016 all over again. We are in for a miserable 4 years.

[Quote] “Okay, so it’s $25.39 for 40-piece nuggets and two large fries,” she said. “You couldn’t even throw in the Sprite?” “You couldn’t even throw in, like, a medium Sprite in there? Holy crap.”

‘A’ medium Sprite?! This fat sow was buying 40 nuggets and two large fries for herself to eat. She only wanted one drink, and not even a diet one, to wash it down with.

Economists warned the Infrastructure Bill would create inflation if it passed. And of course Grampa Joe ignored them and now we have uncontrollable inflation.

[quote]Fox Business

zzzzz

$25.39 for 40-piece nuggets and two large fries doesn't sound exorbitant, to me.

40 nuggets can feed at least 4 people.

The large fries were always expensive, in my area, at least.

The serving size of chicken McNuggets is 4. That is the proper amount that one should be eating. A child should have maybe 2.

There's a reason Americans are obese.

R47 Economists actually blamed the COVID Pandemic for inflation. All those trillions in emergency government spending, plus all the factory shutdowns, layoffs, and supply chain failures.

At least the IIJA poured money into fixing the supply chain and bringing down the cost of core manufactured goods.

Also R47, inflation has been cooling for months. It's neither uncontrollable nor endless.

But go ahead and vote for the fat fuck who bankrupted a casino and exploded the budget deficit the last time he was near the levers of power. He's sure to save you this time.

I do think government spending during the pandemic contributed a lot to inflation.

R52 How pathetic that you blame every unhappy Democrat as a Trump Voter. Biden was WARNED of inflation and ignored it. How did THAT work out?

The economy IS very strong. People can gripe about anything and use anything as a political wedge issue. Blah blah blah blah blah.

McNuggets were 20 for $5 just a few years ago. Bullshit that chicken and a little more in worker pay resulted in 26 bucks for 40 nuggets

How much is a bag of groceries and some time spent cooking?

HOW VERY DARE YOU!

[quote] But some of you can't get past your corporation hatred

Corporations have choked most of the US

Corporations are great but they need to be regulated in the public interest and their governance needs to be reformed to give more power to the workers.

The easiest potato salad to pair with your lovely rotisserie chicken is boiled, quartered red potatoes in a mustard vinaigarette with scallions or herbs. Use mayo, yogurt, cider vinegar and celery seed for your packaged cole slaw. Buy a baquette and butter. I'm assuming you have most of the pantry items. I think I'd serve iced decaf rather than lemonade.

You can have a lovely quick dinner rather than a heart attack on a plate. If money's a problem,, buy a costco chicken, and prepared slaw or potato salad or corn and asparagus when in season.

Or buy naan or flat bread and make BBQ chicken pizzas.

Yes, I know this isn't a policy discussion. But it's a simple solution for individuals caught in a bad system.

Yep, r61. An entire chicken already cooked is $6 at Costco. A bag of potatoes is around $4. Open a can or two of peas and put some butter on them.

That could feed a family of four for well under $25 and is far healthier. Throw in a bagged salad and you've got yourself a great meal.

[quote] Even in 1972 their quality was not high

To be fair, the McNugget chicken grinding and churning technology hadn’t been invented by 1972.

Yeah, I don’t think McD’s had any chicken products until maybe the ‘80s.

[quote] Corporations are great

lol

"President Joe Biden on Monday pushed back on inflation fears also giving investors jitters, insisting that his policies will create a strong economy and that [bold] higher prices are only a short-term growing pain.[/bold]"--------------Grampa Biden. THREE years ago. So much for the "short term" bullshit.

This is what they want. You get mad cuz prices rise when people are paid an almost living wage. So you start thinking anti-union anti-labor like the 0.1% want you to. Even though You are the labor.

[quote] THREE years ago. So much for the "short term" bullshit.

At the time Datalounge bit on that one hard. "whatever you say Dear Leader you are never wrong"

R67 Yup. And people out here stanning for the corporations.....ludicrous

Not this bullshit again. The economy is not going to crash R12, and your Restaurant industry figures don't prove anything.

“Overall, study after study shows that increases to the minimum wage actually have a net gain. They produce a stimulus effect. If you give poor people more money, they’re going to spend it locally, including on rent, utilities and housing. It doesn’t get much more local than that, and that increased spending actually produces jobs,” said Tia Koonse, legal and policy research manager at the UCLA Labor Center.

An analysis of financial data over the past decade by researchers at the Roosevelt Institute found the fast-food industry has more than enough profits to raise wages without affecting prices and employment and have been hiking prices far beyond their operating costs for years.

“In 2023 alone, the 10 largest publicly traded fast-food companies spent $6.1bn on share repurchases,” noted the report. “As with most industries, the fast-food industry has historically charged higher prices than their marginal costs. However, between 2014 and 2023, markups increased at an annual rate of 2.2%, faster than at any period since 1978.”

And furthermore, corporate shill poster, why shouldn't people be disgusted with corporations? The evidence is clear they used the pandemic to make historic profits, and the price gouging continues.

From Robert Reich:

[quote] Walmart hiked prices on its Great Value brands. The result? Its net income spiked 93% to $10.5 billion towards the end of 2023. Walmart rewarded shareholders with $5.9 billion in buybacks and dividends. When I say price gouging is driving inflation, this is what I mean.

I don't think I could choke down one of those "chicken" nuggets. Blech!

For fat whores out there who are interested, you can use the McD's app to get pretty good deals. I took my nephews there last month and got nuggets, fries and drinks at 20% off using an app deal.

Overall, something's got to give. The gap between rich and the rest (not just the poor, but the ever shrinking middle class) continues to grow - corporate profits are off the chain, while prices continue to rise. CEO and executive compensations are insane and keep climbing. Biden and the rest can crow all they want about a "strong economy" and the low employment rate, but what difference is made when no one but the wealthy can afford decent housing, food, gas and other essentials?

That's what's going to kill Dems this fall in the election, and give us four more years of Dump again; as James Carville and the rest of the Clintonistas used to say (hattip to r72 for mentioning Robert Reich, who I always admired): It's always the economy!

[quote]And furthermore, corporate shill poster, why shouldn't people be disgusted with corporations? The evidence is clear they used the pandemic to make historic profits, and the price gouging continues.

This, 100%. And no one in government apparently sees fit to do something about it, or even address it superficially. You'd think the Dems would be all over this, in a crucial election year. Nope. The middle and working classes keeps getting gouged, dissatisfaction abounds, and Trump continues to be strong in the polls. And they scratch their heads and ask why.

If they'd address the price gouging, rich/poor gap, and abortion rights, the Democrats would have a massively solid election platform and should sail into victory this fall. But watch it still be a huge uphill struggle.

The person that should be in front discussing a lot of the regulatory/price gouging issues is Elizabeth Warren.

It's not coincidence that the right zeroed in on Warren and did what they could to minimize/diminish/discredit her, i.e. "Pocahantas." She's one of the more reform minded politicians out there, and none of the big corporate powers that be actually WANT reform.

Warren has a strong record on the issue but there needs to be more than just her out there beating the drum.

Of course corporations don't want reform, but so what. There are far more of us out here than them, large pursestrings aside. Price gouging and corporate pay packages should be front-and-center issues this year, but for some reason they're not.

Anyone who thought the economy would collapse due to a hike in minimum wage at a small sliver of the economy needs to take Econ 101.

Anyone who thought corporations would allow their profit margins decline is a fool.

Anyone who doesn't realize that most fast food restaurants who actually employ and pay the wages are franchises and effectively small businesses is ignorant.

Anyone who read anything more into any of my comments beyond the basic premise that raising the minimum wage for the workers at these small franchised business would predictably result in higher prices, job losses, and business closures needs to improve reading comprehension skills.

I did not make any commentary about whether raising the minimum wage was the "right" or ethical thing to do. I simply pointed out that the margins for fast food are low and a 30% increase on wages would likely have a the impacts I described since wages are usually among the highest expense line items.

Of course, companies (large and small) are going to protect their profit margins. That was ALWAYS a predictable result. No amount of crying about what they "should" do or how evil they are was ever going to alter that.

Wishful thinking is not an effective strategy nor a basis for economic policy.

Finally, as I pointed out, these are shor-term impacts. A few weeks is simply not enough time for longer-term effects to occur or to assess whethere the net effect of raising the minimum wage was positive or negative to the local economies as a whole.

How does corporate McDonald's make such large profit margins from the franchises then? Is it the high franchise fees that are paid? Or do the franchises have to share profits of a certain % with them.

Wages are of course one of the biggest expenses of any business, and a large pay hike for workers will inevitably result in price changes. And wages are paid by the franchise owners. How does the corporate overlord figure into the situation, if at all. Can fees be altered to accommodate the shrinking franchise profits?

Sorry R78, your pedantic bullet points aren't fooling anyone. You clearly stated that raising wages would have a very negative impact on the economy and you said nothing about 'short term'.

[quote] We've apparently now heard from one of the morons who does not understand finance or economics who thought that raising the minimum wage by 30% would not result in a massive increase in prices and business closures.

Sounds pretty dire. MASSIVE price increases and closures. Now you defend your prognostication, which others have disputed, by insisting you never said such a scenario was a BAD thing. Straw man much?

Finally, you just give up:

[quote] A few weeks is simply not enough time for longer-term effects to occur or to assess whethere the net effect of raising the minimum wage was positive or negative to the local economies as a whole.

Lol.

Sorry r80, I stand by my previous comment:

[quote]Anyone who read anything more into any of my comments beyond the basic premise that raising the minimum wage for the workers at these small franchised business would predictably result in higher prices, job losses, and business closures needs to improve reading comprehension skills.

Bitching and crying about corporations and billionaires solves nothing.

Maybe Bloomberg had a point: If you make junk food too pricey, then the poors will get a little bit healthier and we won't have to pay for as many disability checks.

We healthier people also pay for the fatty poors through health insurance subsidies. Maybe if the garbage fast food is too pricey, they'll make better food choices.

Why should fast food franchises and discount retailers pay lower wages, if those wages then have to be subsidized by the state and federal government in the form of food stamps, school lunch programs, and Section 8 housing vouchers?

I don’t eat fast food but I certainly subsidize these businesses when my tax dollars are used to help support their low wage workers.

The workers are being supported, however pitifully, by someone and I’d rather it be by the people who patronize those businesses than by me, someone who doesn’t.

You know, if fast food executives are so concerned about increasing costs of labor, they can always cut their bloated overheads (which includes there very generous pay and extremely generous compensation packages if they truly wanted to save money.

But we all know there's a snowball's chance in hell of that ever happening. Right, Trump/Republican Party cocksuckers.

Just like when GM was declaring bankruptcy back in 2009, all the powerful executives were clamoring that their country club dues still be paid, among other egregious bullshit.

[quote] The serving size of chicken McNuggets is 4.

Honey, most people aren’t on meth like you.

[quote] We healthier people also pay for the fatty poors through health insurance subsidies.

We also pay for gay men who can’t stop taking random loads in public areas.

You're right, r87. Most people are fat.

[quote]You're right, [R87]. Most people are fat.

Well, anyone who has spent any time on DL knows that most people are fat.

R87, when you google “serving size McNuggets” and “nutrition facts McNuggets” the serving size that comes up is four. Seriously.

Whatever the Rethugs have to do to create the “angry voter” by November in a booming economy.

40 nuggets, 2 large serve of fries, the sides...and she wants ONE Sprite? It was ALL for her?

I hoped they asked her if it was for here or to go!

I'd say 7 nuggets make 1 serving.

The FDA would disagree with you.

Six McNuggets with SMALL fries is good - nutritional and caloric bankrupcty notwithstanding.

9/10 nuggets and a fries is a good meal for a grown man. But if a grown man wants 20 nuggets and a large fries, go for it.

There's something "off" about McNuggets. I don't just mean they aren't that tasty. I literally can't eat more than a few without feeling full. But I certainly can eat more GOOD chicken than that. Lots more if I forced myself. But not those. Something in them tells my brain no more... ugh. One can only imagine what chemical that is.

Somehow, ranch dressing is really the best dip for those McNuggets.

I mix a hot mustard (which nobody ever requests) and a sweet-and-sour (again, almost nobody asks for it), and make a kind of spicy-sweet dipping sauce.

When I worked there years ago, most people asked for barbecue, ranch, or honey mustard.

I like the hot mustard, 2nd to ranch.

[quote] We also pay for gay men who can’t stop taking random loads in public areas.

I see the cunty fraus have shown up. Go back to stormfront and be with your own kind, bitch. We don't want you here.

What kind of fat fucking sow eats McDonald's?

He's a fucking idea: Instead of bitching about absurd prices, how about STOP PAYING THEM? If you're willing to pay these corporations' ransom prices for shit you didn't even need then you're part of the problem.

WTF eats at McDonald's? It's really only acceptable for children and teenagers to do so, and even that isn't great.

People who eat their feelings.

R41- What needs?

The need to eat fast food SLOP

because they’re too lazy to prepare their own food at home.

Greg would NEVER get caught eating at McDonalds

Buck would never be caught eating at McDonalds either.

R106, only adults eat that shit now. It’s been that way for years.

The kids won't eat there anymore R106. Just the grossly obese adults who want to die early and in pain.

the food is still cheap in the app, so they're willing to stop price gouging if you'll give them a nice chunk of data with your purchase.

Where do the kids eat?

It's all corporate price gouging. And greed. That's it.

But they want us to believe it's some bullshit like workers asking for a better wage. Or inflation. Or some aspect of economics.

Anything but them.

Hopefully enough fatties will go on Ozempic that it'll cut into fast food price-gouging profits.

[quote] the food is still cheap in the app

Oh, dear.

[quote] But they want us to believe it's some bullshit like workers asking for a better wage. Or inflation. Or some aspect of economics.

Tell us that you didn’t graduate college without telling us you didn’t graduate college.

[quote] Tell us that you didn’t graduate college without telling us you didn’t graduate college.

One cannot "graduate college" anymore than one can "go college" or "arrive college."

In this instance, the verb "to graduate" is acting as an intransitive verb, and intransitive verbs cannot take on an object.

Nah r116, they'll serve smaller burgers for the same inflated prices.

Almost like high calorie meals cost high dollar amounts.

Just stop buying and eating this stuff. For $25 at Walmart where Mcdonald's eaters also shop you can eat for a WEEK.

[quote] Tell us that you didn’t graduate college without telling us you didn’t graduate college.

Tell us you lack a decent counter argument so instead you resort to insults...

Raising wages is long overdue. Blame the government for waiting 20 years or more so that is at such a need, it's $5 or more at a time. We need higher wages. Almost half the economy relies on the service industry (the only industries with plentiful jobs after 08') -- but workers can't afford to live anywhere near their work places. It can't be done remote. It can't be outsourced. At least not now. This is a huge problem. Big demand for cheap food and products, but no one wants to pay more because.... well, it's cheap shit. No one start about these jobs being for kids either, since last time I checked, kids are in school all day while stores across the nation are operating.

We need now than minimum wage raises though. We almost need mandatory wage increases for workers making less than 80k. I watched as low wage jobs increased in my area to $16- $20 an hour, as those making anything more didn't get shit. So what happened? Those closer to $20 don't value their (previously "decent" jobs) because you can get it working almost anywhere. For example, some of the trades in NYS are only making $25 -- $32 an hour. That was low but fine enough maybe 5 yrs ago. Not during or after covid though. Not with everything going up double. These tradesmen bust their asses. Some are making even less, esp non union. Closer to $20... Too close to basic wages around here.

That's where all the gloating about the economy has come from. Everyone telling working class/ middle class they should be doing great because wages went up, but the whole story there is that the lowest wages went up, covering up the fact that anyone not making bottom dollar didn't get "huge" wage increases. We just had the classes pushed closer together by making everyone 50k- 80k more poor when service jobs are paying 40k now.

Not saying they shouldn't! Minimum wages should've been up to $20-25 awhile ago. It's just a shock to the system doing it overnight and without other industries/ jobs getting the memo that hey, $25-30 isn't looking so hot anymore to bust cement all day if $20 is being paid over at the grocery store. Hopefully that realization happens for other businesses that $30 isn't so decent anymore if $20 is "minimum wage".

FAT

WHORES

REJOICE!

This stuff is horrible for you.

Healthier option: Turkey or salmon burger, whole wheat bun, cole slaw, oven fries.

They were on a salad kick like twenty years ago and some of that was really good. And then there was some hot side hot, cold side cold thing that worked for awhile. McRib still draws them in

Which companies are the worst? Wal*Mart, Nestlé, McFatties...?

[quote] I say this every time this topic comes up. Some jobs are just not meant to be $15-$25 an hour jobs. You get cheap food because the businesses employ cheap labor

Nope. You get cheap foods because the ingredients are as cheap as humanly possible and the food is cooked as quickly as possible on a production line.

[quote] Turkey or salmon burger, whole wheat bun, cole slaw, oven fries.

Slaw is full of mayonnaise or vinaigrette, a whole wheat bun has negligible health benefits over other options.

"Tell us that you [insert boring tired insult] without telling us that you [insert boring tired insult]" has got to be one of the most tired and over used phrases of the past decade. You think it makes you sound smart, snappy and edgy R118 but it just makes you sound like a vacuous brain dead moron.

Turkey or salmon burger, cole slaw

Nobody needs bread or potatoes. Protein and vegetables are enough.

R133 = eating disorder.

[quote]How does corporate McDonald's make such large profit margins from the franchises then?

R79, my coworker looked into the McDonalds franchise option. She said at the at that time (early 2000s), McDs took 51% of the franchise profits.

Don't love foods that don't love you back. If they increase my cancer or disease risk, they're dead to me.

Coleslaw is full of cabbage and carrots. Good stuff.

kill all pedants

[quote] One cannot "graduate college" anymore than one can "go college" or "arrive college."

^retard alert

After all the discussion about how expensive McDonald's is, I looked up how much the combo meals are, and the fat whores weren't kidding. A Big Mac combo is about $16. I haven't been to a McDonald's in years, but when I was going, I remember that combo costing about half of that.

For $16, I could probably buy most of the ingredients and make it myself.

Nobody “needs” McDonald’s. If it’s too expensive, don’t buy it. It’s garbage.

Buy a loaf of bread and some Boars Head at Target. Make a sandwich. So many things you can put on sandwich. Cheese, olives, pickles, peppers, onions, tomato, avocado, spinach, shredded carrots, different flavors of mustard and mayo (gin mayo, Japanese mayo), homemade salad dressing, cucumbers, sauerkraut, red cabbage, bacon.

Reminds me of a now defunct salad dressing Trader Joes made that I like to lightly spread on sandwiches

Hot sauce, BBQ sauce, honey mustard, hummus, tahini, stuffing, orange/lemon/ apple/ cranberry sauce/jelly, various dips (cilantro yogurt chive dip, eg).

Egg, coleslaw, chutney, masala, flavored cream cheese, grapes, tofu, bananas, broccoli rabe

I love the tiny reusable sauce containers they make now that take up very little room in a sack lunch.

Make better food for yourself. And stop ordering from DoorDash and Uber Eats you lazy fuckers.

If we have to pay you fuckers $20/hr, guess how much we're gonna charge you for a meal? $20! Snatch that shit right back from you.