Joan Crawford is the Queen of Tubi

OP, thanks for the heads up. I had no idea. Always looking for old JC movies online.

Holy shit…I thought of myself as a Joan aficionado, but I’ve never heard of this (apparent) gem!

Any viscous face slapping?

BTW, OP, any true FAN has most of these on dvd.

(Or, considering the DL crowd, VHS.)

Will be they?

…Will they??!

Will they?

…Will they??!

-C.

Harriet Craig was totally Joan. As was Eva in Queen Bee. I'm sure this is what Christina had to live with

^^^ I’ve been waiting for my ADD meds to be refilled and its been a week.

I feel seen!

R6 One critic called described Queen Bee as Joan at the peak of her “frank insincerity”. It’s so good. Bonus for John Ireland, somber and bitter in his part, but a pleasure to watch. And Betsy Palmer. It’s all so good.

La Crawford might have more films on the site than any other actress.

Christina has said that Joan in Queen Bee was pretty much what she was really like.

I hate that I have to go back to watching old movies with commercials like it was 1978. But I cut the cable a long time ago.

OP, I love you. For years have wanted to see Berserk! Now I know where to go. 🙏

R13 For years? Did you ever think of buying a DVD?

It was on VHS before that...

R13 and 14 are Joan herself, posting from Purgatory.

R13, I was reluctant to make that kind of financial investment, even for our dear Joan.

Mildred Pierce is on Cinema Box, another free Roku streaming channel.

I want to watch Female on the Beach with yummy, prematurely grey Jeff Chandler!

Flamingo Road is really fun, Joan and the whole cast are excellent. It's campy as fuck, but solidly made.

Sudden Fear is one of my favorite movies of all time, I can watch it over and over.

OP, you're so quiet we'll have to put a bell on you.

Sudden Fear is a great film. Very entertaining.

dvds are outdated now, gramps.

R23 Sonny, he said he waited for YEARS. Years when dvds were not outdated.

[quote]Christina has said that Joan in Queen Bee was pretty much what she was really like.

Christina was a known liar.

Lizabeth Scott is, was and will always be the Queen of Tubi, and all of the other free streaming services, too! Joan already was the Queen of Hollywood and Pepsico. Let the other girls have things!

Tuuuu...beeee...Tubi.

Doesn't Tubi have commercials?

If you watch on your TV, it has commercials. If you watch it on your computer and you have ad block, it's commercial free.

Dammit, Tubi is MY place, R26!

Sada Thompson is obviously the Queen of Tubi at the present time.

You may as well have 'Property of Tubi' tattooed on my backside!

Fucking love Sudden Fear. Joan's response when finding out they'd cast a less-than-handsome leading man..

R26, you are so right! Tubi does have at least a few of the great Lizabeth Scott's movies. Glad to know she has DL fans. She deserved so much more recognition than she got.

OP, it's called Fandango, GODDAMMIT!

They didn't want to show my films. They were too busy giving a big build up to that crap Blanche was turning out.

And Kristy McNichol and Meredith Baxter are the princesses.

How come Joan never did nudity? It wasn't a big deal from the 60s

Sure Joan did nudies! I had to pay a pretty penny to buy them up and destroy 'em!

Crawford was either a hypocrite or some kid of non-integrated personality, because her many sides didn't really agree with each other. Tolerant, intolerant, ladylike, slutty, honest, dishonest, kind, mean, etc. Never could really figure out what she was all about.

[quote]Never could really figure out what she was all about.

All you need to know is that she was complicated and a friend to the gays.

R41 Obviously that isn't all I need to know or that would satisfy me.

Just watched Queen Bee last night on Tubi.

Queen Bee is also a very fine watch for the fabulous Betsy Palmer, who, IIRC, was also a gay ally. (Let me get some receipts for you - I'm pretty sure I'm right on that....)

Did Joanie ever make any decent noirs in the vein of Sudden Fear? I think it's my favourite of hers

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Uh oh.

I never thought of Sudden Fear as a noir.

“You are the GENIUS of the soft drink world. Get the god damned COMPANY to pay the BILL!”

R45. Would Daisy Kenyon (directed by the always fabulous Otto Preminger and co-starring DL fave Dana Andrews) be considered noir? Maybe Possessed with JC and Van Heflin?

When I say noir I guess I mean dark themes, Joan in danger and some frights for the audience..

R50, that's my understanding of noir, too. Interestingly, the BFI seems to class The Damned Don't Cry and Flamingo Road (lots of unintentional comedy) as noir.....

r49 She certainly wasn't tolerant of barefoot hippies. She was a slut, but a ladylike slut, unlike that hussy Marilyn Monroe and that bitch Joan Collins who had the temerity to be named after her.

R49 No, I don't think Daisy Kenyon is film noir. It's advertised as Noir on the DVD cover, but that is just to attract buyers. I love Daisy Kenyon - particularly for Henry Fonda, though Andrews is terrific, too. I don't think Mildred Pierce is noir. It's given noir trappings (and I love that film, also). Possessed is noir, I think.

R51 I guess we'll have to ask Eddie Muller.

R54 Eddie Muller is a fine commentator.

Watched Whatever Happened To Baby Jane on TCM today. Freakin amazing

Her movies have been called "Women's noir" movies that look noirish but with a female protagonist and a murder. A lot of Barbara Stanwyck's movies fall into this category. I watched "No man of her own" last night. Great improbable story.

The Damned Don’t Cry moves along at a good clip and it’s a heaping scoop of all Joan’s repertoire of cheese. She’s great. I loved the piss elegant fashions and sets and food (the meal she orders on her first date with that mousy accountant is perfect).

My favorite scene comes when she “evens out the books” and keeps her partner’s share of the take from a couple of suckers they roped into a fixed card game. Her partner threatens never to take her out on a job again “Why I’d take my MOTHER before I ask you!”

Joan saunters away, mutters “ehhhh shut up…”

I always confuse The Damned Don't Cry and This Woman is Dangerous.

[quote]Great improbable story

Not so great and still improbable in Mrs. Winterbourne.

I love how Joan was 20 years too old for all of her 50s roles but she never let that stop her. In her mind she was still a hot, sexy young bitch.

R60 I liked it.

Ok serious question: Did Joan really rail at a boardroom for trying to screw her over after her late husband died?

R63 No she did not. By all accounts, Joan always kept a cordial and diplomatic facade with dealing with business affairs and was even kept on the board until she was ousted by Don Kendall, who despised her. It is reported she did tell them she had “fought worse monsters than you for years” but she didn’t shout it at them.

If we believe Christina (which I do), she would direct her raging and screaming towards her maids, Christina, and Christopher. The movie version paints a mostly inaccurate picture of Joan. Read the book edition of Mommie Dearest.

I belive it was reported that Joan said on more than one occasion, "I'm a bitch in the boardroom, a bore in the bedroom and a bear on the toilet!"

R63, our Joan was not bitter--ah, no: she was wise.....

At about 48 years old Joan is the perfect age for her character in "Sudden Fear".

From Concluding Chapter of Crawford Instagram. The guy does good research and often posts the receipts to back it up. There's a lot out there about JC that just isn't true. While yes, it could be said "the company forced her out" at the retirement age, that frames it as a personal vendetta, as opposed to the context of the fact that Pepsi routinely retired everyone, then, at 65.

"While it is true that Joan and Donald Kendall did not see eye to eye, it is not true that Kendall "retired" Joan from the company's Board of Directors in 1973. Joan retired from the board in 1973 at her official age of 65, which was customary with each and every executive of the company. In Fact, Kendall himself also retired from the company at age 65."