Is killing yourself slowly with alcohol possible?

Let me work on testing out this theory. I’ll get back to you . . .

Live Disease

Cirrhosis

Amy Winehouse, Veronica Lake, WC Fields, Oliver Reed, Alexander Godunov, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Dylan Thomas, Billie Holiday, Jack Kerouac, Richard Burton, and David Cassidy all died that way.

Watch "Leaving Las Vegas".

I prefer killing me softly with his song.

Possibly the single stupidest question ever asked on DL.

I no longer drink hard liquor, but drink a bottle of wine and about five beers a day. I'm not fat YET, but at 45, it won't take long.

Then you must be new, r6.

Weed is better for you. Assuming you want to live.

R7 That is WAYYY TOO MUCH. Please cut back

R7 either 6 beers OR 1 bottle of wine a day. NOT BOTH!

This is one of those questions that social drinkers never ask, unless they’re deeply concerned about an alcoholic.

It's a miserable way to go. In addition to pain in joints and various organs, barfing up and shitting bloody mucous, you can't enjoy food and you're itchy all over.

You probably have a bacterial infection that is affecting your brain and how you absorb alcohol. You need to dry out and talk to a doctor about antibiotics.

[quote]Assuming you want to live.

I don't, but I don't want to suffer much, either.

I know. Impossible!

You need professional help, gurl.

R7 "a bottle of wine and about five beers a day"

Is that considered a lot? Seems like a reasonable amount to me

Why slowly and not quickly?

Hurry up!

Google "esophageal varices" - it's a terrible, terrible way to die.

I do, r16. My life is just not what I thought it would be at this age. I don't care for my country (Brazil),don't have many friends, single, no kids (male, BTW), I work from home for a salary that covers my bills, and I have a little bit left. The job is easy, but I hate it!

Good question, r18. I guess I'm just a coward.

R17, what part of Britain are you from?

OK, you made me laugh, r22! Thanks!

[quote] Live Disease

One must live to die!

Smooches, R23!

I'm the last person to turn to with advice on drinking, or anything, really, so I don't judge.

Glad I made you laugh--now can I fix you a plate of fresh calf's liver w/caramelized sweet onions, lime cilantro rice, and a lovely salad with romaine, colored mini-bellpeppers and heirloom tomatoes? That'll give you a nice base upon which to add drink.

Tea cakes with a dusting of grated nutmeg for dessert.

I thought all Brazilians were supposed to be happy go lucky people without a care in the world.

r22 must be Greg

^^Sorry, I meant r25

R21 do you have a big dick?

Ha, R27, that's a good one. But, no. Last week I realized I hadn't cooked calf's liver in a very long time, so I made an Easter dinner of it for my old Dad. Kitchen smells delicious.

Been here 20+ years now, so pretty sure I predate Greg.

Though I do love my prunes... so, there's that.

I'm average in everything, r29!

❤ r25!

I'll probably won't be able to have a coherent conversation very soon, so, forgive me if I "disappear."

And yes, I'll look at this thread tomorrow morning and feel very ashamed.

To quote Charlie Brown: Good grief!

As always you guys are all great!😘

[quote] As always you guys are all great!

We are your reason to live.

Please, Honey/R31, you'll have to get up pretty early in the morning to top me in the "disappear" category; bane of my existence, but 30 years of therapy haven't cured me of it yet.

Please be kind to yourself.

[quote] [R25] must be Greg.

I’d never say “smooches.”

[quote] Been here 20+ years now, so pretty sure I predate Greg.

R30, I’m sorry, but I’ve been on DL since 1995.

I'm sorry, but I've been on DL since 1909.

A bottle of wine and 5 beers per day is alcoholism. There's no "cutting back." OP already did cut back (stopped using hard liquor). OP needs to medically detox.

Yes, but do it classically! Consumption!

R31 Sounds like you are having a lovely Easter Sunday. Good for you. Sending love right back your way. I appreciate this band of crazy bitches more now than ever. Peace to y'all

Yes.

Sadly, a friend of mine did that. He was a beautiful soul, and a very quiet drinker. He was fine and then, boom, we all got a call that he was in organ failure. His liver was shutting down. Died a few days later.

Very sad.

OP don't be ridiculous! Are you some hippie with bare dirty feet????

OP how's the plan going?

[quote]Watch "Leaving Las Vegas".

Better yet, don't watch "Leaving Las Vegas." Terrible movie with a screenplay that seems like a film student's thesis. Totally contrived with zero relation to real life.

Possible and fun

DL is full of experts on this topic, despite the natural attrition.

[quote]Possibly the single stupidest question ever asked on DL.

I thought the winner of that prize belonged to David E's infamous, "Why are straight me so stupid?"

OP, follow the liver cleansing diet and keep drinking.

Yes, it's possible.

Chronic ethanolism can lead to a condition called alcoholic ketoacidosis. There have been cases where people basically get sick and there's no coming back and they just die.

Last year, the Chicago M.E.'s report on actor, Jeffrey Carlson (age 48), indicated he died of that.

Think I will do the same thing. Too much of a pussy to make quickly

Yes, OP, my ex was doing this, and its a horrible way to go. Please get help, there is much more than just AA available now if that doesnt appeal to you, there is Smart recovery, plus there are a number of new medications such as Naltrexone or Acamprosate that will help you stay off it, plus there's all sorts of other support groups online as well. Go talk to your doctor and be utterly upfront and honest with him

And "a bottle of wine and about five beers a day" is WAY too much, that's alcoholism like what R37 and R10 said. Y'all gotta just stop else it'll kill you dead and not nicely either.

It also does sound like there is some depression issues going on. Alcohol WILL make those worse, and if you drink on top of antidepressants, especially SSRI's, its gonna be a fucking shitshow. I seen it with my ex and it aint no fun to be around let alone live through.

R50 "It also does sound like there is some depression issues going on"

You think? Why else would anyone want to kill themselves

I saw it up close with my 35-hear-old closeted cousin who worked for his father in the hotel business. They fell out over my cousin's refusal to fly coach when he went off to audit the hotels and he was fired. We would see each other in NYC and one day I showed up with a few friends. My cousin had 5 martinis delivered to the table. One for each of us I thought. But they were for all him. The first one he had to sip without picking it up. By the fifth one he could bring the glass to his mouth. The next time I saw him he had gin blossoms breaking out on his face and within a few short months he was dead. So if you really put your mind to it, you can kill yourself quickly.

Since no one said it yet, OP:

CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF?

Yes. I have seen it. It was very ugly at the end.

I’m a mental health nurse working in addictions. We get to know people over many years through all their struggles. I’ve lost count of the number of people who died of liver failure or myopathy because they kept going back to drinking.

The saddest deaths are when someone stops drinking for long enough to lose their tolerance to alcohol, then drinks at the same level they used to, causing alcohol poisoning. I hate my job sometimes.

What r55 describes is what happened to Amy Winehouse.

It must be more painful for the person who's killing themselves this way, but it's less painful for the family, than putting a rope around your neck would be

OP you can certainly continue to drink yourself slowly to death. I’ve watched many people do it. Usually, though, they end up in excruciating and progressive agony, as their bodily systems shut down. There are, as said above, many options out there now for recovery and the cheapest and most accessible is AA. There are meetings 24/7 online. Many of us felt that our lives were miserable and then we stopped pouring poison in our bodies and miraculously shit turned around.

Oh no R57, it’s much worse! It drags on forever and at some point, you’re just really exhausted. I’d rather had my friend kill himself by jumping in front of a train then through alcoholism.

Yes- both acutely from huge intake quickly and chronic heavy drinking leading to alcohol associated disease and pathology.

This question was about as informed as “does one get wet when walking jumping into the water?”

Yes it is possible.

Sadly I lost a friend almost a decade ago, now (hard to believe). Many of us had no idea that he was a drinker....he was a subtle one but apparently drank enough that he went into liver failure, then total renal failure, and died.

He was a kind, caring man who cared about the world and everything around him and wanted to make it better.....and perhaps didn't have the boundaries or protective shell many of us have, and he took many things deeply to heart. He did work that made a difference in the world. I miss him and think of him often.

R59 But suicide is the most painful type of death for family and close ones. If you die from organ failure, no one will treat it as a suicide

^^^True the cause of death will be listed as "Organ failure."

[quote]OP needs to medically detox.

*Medically* being the key word here. Don't do it without a doctor's supervision.

R6

Not remotely close. Not even in the top 100.

[quote]It must be more painful for the person who's killing themselves this way, but it's less painful for the family, than putting a rope around your neck would be

Wrong, R57, its actually far worse and much harder on all those around them. Been there done that got the shitty T shirt

I drank heavily for eighteen years. My doctor took scans of my liver and told me I had about a year to live if I didn't stop drinking. It was a wake-up call. I got sober. Twenty years later, I have dementia, and my neurologist told me my overuse of alcohol contributed heavily to the damage in my brain. I likely won't be around in five years, and I won't reach 70 years. So much for a happy retirement. I haven't traveled in five years.

Take up tennis a smoke a little weed. Then life's good.

R66 No buying it. Suicide would scared them a lot more

It took my dad 45 years to get to the bleeding out death stage. But he accelerated it the last couple weeks with vodka and no food.

R67, I'm so sorry to hear that. I wish you well. My mom quit smoking in her 40s and still ended up dying from lung cancer.