Ramy Youssef calls for a Free Palestine in SNL monologue

What an OUTRAGE!!!

Who would wish peace for a people who have been invaded, dispossessed, occupied, oppressed, killed in large numbers, then victim-blamed!

He's a monster!

You forget excluded from the entire Arab world and abandoned by their former country (Egypt), r1.

He also asked for a trans woman to be the next President. NO THANKS.

Gaza was part of Egypt until 1967.

Dumb brainwashed woke cunt

Free the hostages.

^^^ look at hasbara proving me at r1 completely right.

This is the fault of the Arab states and the Palestinians 1000% — it’s not the fault of the Jews who invaded, stole, killed, occupied, oppressed, stole more and killed more, because … reasons.

Thr most epic gaslighting of our age is the whitewashing of Zionism.

R7 fuck off

Cry harder, R7,

There were both Arab and Jewish refuges following the partition in 1948. The Arabs, for the most part, fled to neighboring Arab states expecting them to annihilate the Jews, which they tried to do many times. The Jews were expelled from all Arab lands. The Jewish refugees mostly fled to Israel. The Arab refugees were never allowed to resettle in Arab lands, instead becoming the world’s only permanent refugees in service of the “dream” that one day Israel will be destroyed.

History doesn’t move backwards. Control of land changes over time. Wars create refugees. Refugees resettle. If a government launches a violent attack on a neighboring country, the attacked neighbor will seek to destroy the aggressive government.

People seem to think these rules are different for Jews: They are not.

Oh, and being unable to return to land abandoned by, sold by, or stolen from your ancestors is not a lack of “freedom.”

Complete nonsense at r10.

The Zionist armed forces drove the Arabs out using armed force and/or terrorism. The Zionists had been saying for years that they considered the UN partition to be a “foot in the door” and intended to take it all (don’t believe me? Read Ben-Gurion’s diary).

The Arab League forces assembled in the area were not there to “annihilate the Jews,” they were there to protect the land set aside for the Arabs in the UN resolution. And sure enough, when hostilities started, it was Zionist forces invading the land set aside for the Arabs. Doing exactly what Ben-Gurion had privately written they would do.

In 1948, there were indeed Jews in Palestine. Some were the Jews that had been in Palestine all along, mostly in Jerusalem. But most were recent emigrants from Europe, come with the express intent to take over and expel the Arabs.

The entire “foundation of Israe”l narrative is a myth and propaganda. Hasbara is built on a foundation of lies, because they know what they did, and what they are now doing, is more than just morally wrong. It’s monstrous. I mean, just look at how they lie, victim-blame and distort about what’s going on in Gaza now. Do you think their fable about the establishment of Israel is any less full of shit?

^you are brainwashed

^^^ said the Zionist cultist. Cults always believe everyone but then are “brainwashed” or “sheep”

R15 must have heard the word hasbara at his latest Jew hating meeting and couldn't wait to use it on Datalounge!

Zionism, especially in America, is 100% a cult, but the cult leader is not a person. It’s a country.

Compare the mindset of Scientology and Zionism. Compare their strong arming tactics. They’re hard to tell apart. From birth, American Jews are indoctrinated in this cult.

I’m r16 and did you know that iF y0u criTiciZe IsrAeL yoUrE aN aNtiSeMiTe???

Good for him

Considering the crazed, lunatic Pro-Palestine/Pro-Hamas protests - I'd say one side is a cult and it's not American Jews..

Look at the mind numbing rage at r8 when challenged. But no, Zionism isn’t a cult.

Ikr r20? People who protest crimes against humanity are lunatics!

Yeah, the side shutting down Easter services, gluing themselves to the street during parades, going on 1 day 'hunger strikes' - yup, that's totally normal and not at all cult like. Fucking insanity.

We’re there some Zionists determined to “take it all.” Of course. There are zealots on both sides. Did the Arabs attack in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 with the goal of destroying Israel. Yes.

Wars create victims in all sides. What is unique about the Arabs in Palestine who left is not that they lost their property in war. That happens almost every day somewhere in the world. It’s that they were never allowed to resettle and have been brainwashed into thinking that history is going to be erased when it is not. They are being used as pawns by forces unconcerned with their well being. They are living symbols of the Arab fantasy that Israel will disappear. That is their unique tragedy.

As for the current war, you reap what you sow. A government that takes hostages and hides its military behind civilians has no standing to speak of human rights.

He’s been repeating “hasbara” on here for months as if it’s a dirty word.

R17 you should be aware that this site is filled with elderly Jewish baby boomers.

“Zionism” is an outdated word. It arose in a time when a Jewish state was an aspiration, not a historical fact. The farther we travel from 1948, the more the word should have faded into history. It would have, if it hadn’t been so useful for those who wish to treat Jews as unique.

Is there a word for French people who favor a French nation? Egyptians who believe in Egypt? Japanese people who approve of Japanese statehood? No.

The question of a Jewish state is now moot to all but those who wish to destroy Israel.

Hamas should surrender and release the hostages.

And Egypt can feel free to open its border and let the Palestinians in.

I walked by a “free Palestine” protest in NY yesterday and they actually were waving Palestinian flags with the trans flags attached below them. The Gazans and those on the west banks really embrace the trans population apparently.

And of course everyone at the protest (in broad daylight, chanting in front of city hall on a Saturday) had their faces completely covered with masks and head scarves - most of them white people.

If the protestors feel so strongly they are justified and it’s all peaceful protesting, why are their faces always covered?

Can’t they just remove the borders and mix everyone together as a single state? You know, like the United States and the rest of the world? The whole conflict is about arbitrary borders.

That is one possible solution, r29. There are over a million Arabs who are citizens of Israel. However, there are zealots on both sides who do not believe in a mixed-ethnicity, mixed-religion state and they are prepared to use violence to prevent it.

The United States is actually unusual. “The rest of the world” has always had political borders tied to ethnic populations with a few exceptions like Switzerland and Belgium, which have a lot of tension. The Pan-Slavic state of Yugoslavia has been split into ethnically distinct nations. Same for Czechoslovakia. The trend has been toward ethnic nationalism unless there is a strong imperial center like Russia or China.

The Zionists are losing the narrative right now very badly. You'll notice they've started to short-circuit, repeating the same arguments ad nauseam. Israel has doomed itself with this war. Over 50% of people under 25 believe the answer to the Israel-Palestine conflict is for Israel to stop existing. In 50 years, that will be over 50% of people under 75. They're totally fucked.

Still dreaming, r32. Still dreaming.

Palestinians are homophobic backwards fucks. Don’t care what happens.

R32 demonstrates the actual agenda of the “Pro-Palestinian” movement.

Basically two parties who want to wipe each other off the face of the earth and we’re supposed to play Victim Olympics and choose a winner.

Ultimately, both sides suck. Religion is the root of evil.

No, r36. You are mistaken. The 7 million Israeli Jews have no aspirations to wipe 500 million Arabs off the face of the earth. Most of them would be happy to be left alone, though there are some extremists who want some land not currently part of Israel. Many of the Arabs, (and many non-Arab Muslims) on the other hand, live under regimes formally and explicitly dedicated to the elimination of Israel, and they have repeatedly attempted to achieve that goal.

r29 Ideally, yes. But since religion is a key factor in the conflict, you must understand that we're not dealing with rational people.

Most Israeli Jews are not religious.

Israel needs to stop dropping bombs on innocent Palestinians.

Israel thinking that what it is doing is right and just is nothing more than genocide. And Israel knows it. Israel wants land that doesn't belong to it.

Back the fuck off.

There is a reason why those opposed to Israel’s existence are so quick to apply the word “genocide” in this war, and it has nothing to do with what’s happening in Gaza. Indeed, it is likely that very few of the people throwing this word around so freely have any idea what it actually means.

There are heavy civilian casualties because Hamas wants heavy civilian casualties for propaganda purposes and because they are cowards, hiding behind hostages and women and children.

That is not genocide.

A few years back, David Chappelle only hinted at the subjugation of Palestinians when he hosted SNL, but now high-profile entertainers (even Joe Fuckin’ Rogan) are flat-out saying “genocide” and “Fee Palestine” to an audience of millions. No wonder public opinion is shifting so quickly. Chappelle’s “Space Jews” bit has aged incredibly well.

R41 Don’t be stupid. On 10/7/23 Hamas entered Israel, massacring its citizens, raping women and kidnapping babies. It’s not about “Israel wanting land.” Too many delusional fucks.

It seems a lot of people don't know what genocide means.

R36 No, it’s one party that wants to wipe the other off the face of the earth.

Hamas Charter: Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it! (Preamble) The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (Article 7)

R45 Yes. Starting a war and losing doesn’t make you a victim of genocide.

Hamas uses human shields to protect its ammunition, weapons, and personnel. This increases casualties,

Hamas is responsible.

R43–there has been a concerted pro-Muslim/ anti-Jew (excuse me, “Zionist”) propaganda effort focusing on college campuses and funded (ultimately) by Iran who funds all the remaining anti-Israel terror groups including Hamas. . That’s what changed. I do tip my hat to this effort. It caught Israel flat-footed. But this war will be over soon, and the Gulf States will continue to align with Israel against Iran. Israel will emerge stronger and more secure than ever. Sorry, honey. Keep dreaming.

I had never heard of Ramy Youssef before last night, but the way he presented the issue with humor made it more accessible than some of the screeching done on network news shows, regardless of whose side you are on.

And his "I'll show you change" with the trans presidential candidate was priceless.

Remy’s takes on Gaza are much more witty and compassionate than Chappelle’s, and that’s saying a lot. One of the best monologues I’ve seen in a while.

build a new Palastine Island out of trash off the coast of Gaza and kick it out to sea

* Ramy, I mean.

This won't end well.

[quote] Israel needs to stop dropping bombs on innocent Palestinians.

By remaining in a location that they know will be bombed, the Palestinians are falling to mitigate and for that must bear responsibility.

For those who say they have nowhere to go, the Palestinians should have considered that before they executed the inhuman attack on Israeli civilians.

R26: Yes and they're not exactly unbiased or reliable narrators.

𝐉𝐨𝐞 𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐬 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐦𝐛𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥

US-supplied military equipment arriving in Israel, December 2023. (Ministry of Defense Spokesperson's Office)

The United States in recent days authorized the transfer of billions of dollars worth of bombs and fighter jets to Israel even as it publicly expresses concerns about an anticipated military offensive in Rafah, The Washington Post reported Friday.

Citing Pentagon and State Department officials, the daily said the new arms package includes 1,800 MK-84 2,000-pound bombs and 500 MK-82 500-pound bombs, along with 25 F-35s that were initially approved as part of a larger package by Congress in 2008. Israel requested the third squadron of 25 F-35s last July, which when delivered will bring the total size of the fleet to 75.

The bombs are expected to be delivered within the coming months, as part of a constant stream of armaments and military equipment that the US has provided Israel with since the start of the war in the Gaza Strip.

The additional fighter jets will take several more years. Only 36 of Israel’s original order of 50 F-35s have so far been delivered.

The announcement came on the same day that the US abstained from a vote at the United Nations Security Council calling for a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of the hostages taken on October 7, without linking the two issues. The resolution, backed by Russia and China, passed with 14 votes.

Ramy Youssef. Well that sounds like a Muslim Ape for sure!

He can go fuck himself.

[quote] The Zionists are losing the narrative right now very badly.

We’re way beyond that. They lost. They can thank that goon Bibi for their complete downfall. The minute they started taking out full page ads against pop stars and started using d list celebs for propaganda purposes, everyone knew they lost the plot. Zionist now equals Nazi in the Western world. Their welfare checks will be cut off the minute Millennials and Gen Z’ers take over. WWII is completely irrelevant today just as WWI was to Boomers. Zionists cannot keep using that one. I say all of this as a Jew too. I’m so sick of hearing about Israel and all of the drama happening in the Middle East. That entire region, including Israel, is low IQ trash and they happy living ignorance. It’s like two yapping Yentas who won’t shut the fuck up. They’ll be feuding till the cows come home.

And BTW, send all of those woke pro-Palestinian assholes over there to live. They won’t last two seconds.

Fuck him. I liked his performance in Poor Things, but apparently he’s a terrorist sympathizing piece of shit.

[quote]Considering the crazed, lunatic Pro-Palestine/Pro-Hamas protests - I'd say one side is a cult and it's not American Jews..

Fomenting change is almost always secondary to sharing an experience when it comes to protesting.

I don’t think Israel is terribly concerned with “the narrative” told by progressive Americans right now.

The real narrative is that for all the hand-wringing and weeping over civilian casualties in Gaza among people who have no concern for civilian casualties anywhere else, not one of the Arab countries that has made peace with Israel has done so much as recall an Ambassador, let alone cut off relations. Why? Because the “narrative” on the ground is collective fear of Iran, not keeping alive the fantasy of eliminating Israel. That ship has sailed, and now Israel is becoming a powerful ally of the Sunni Arabs.

Given the choice between letting Hamas survive and avoiding the wrath of kids wearing silly costumes and face masks while they pretend to care about a situation they know nothing about, and destroying Hamas with the implicit backing of their former enemies, I think Israel’s choice is not as difficult as some like to pretend.

[quote]The real narrative is that for all the hand-wringing and weeping over civilian casualties in Gaza among people who have no concern for civilian casualties anywhere else, not one of the Arab countries that has made peace with Israel has done so much as recall an Ambassador, let alone cut off relations.

In fact, Biden said during last week's fundraiser with Obama and Clinton that Arab countries including Saudi Arabia were prepared to "fully recognize Israel" in a future agreement.

The Free Palestine movement shows how 1984 we’ve become. These Zillenials see 3 memes and they’re rioting. Scary times. Social media is dangerous when you have bad actors like Iran exploiting it and lonely, low IQ morons looking for a cause and a group to belong to.

Harvard Law Student Council Passes Anti-Israel Resolution After Changing Voting Rules

The student council of Harvard Law School passed an anti-Israel resolution on Friday — after changing the voting rules to do so. The resolution calls on Harvard University to divest from the Jewish state and anything connected with it.

As the Daily Wire reported last week, the Harvard Law School Government amended its bylaws to allow for a secret ballot by its elected representatives for the first time in the history of the institution. The Harvard Crimson reported that the resolution passed 12-4, with three abstentions. It resulted in two members of the council resigning in protest, condemning the change...

Harvard Law School once produced brilliant legal scholars who contributed much to our society. Now, it harbors and panders to social engineers with no intellectual discipline who almost always get things wrong. Here is a perfect example. There is simply no definition of genocide that applies to Israel — but Harvard Law students don’t care.

[quote] Gaza was part of Egypt until 1967.

No. Gaza was part of the British Mandate of Palestine (along withe West Bank). After 1948 Gaza was left to be administered by Egypt (and the west Bank by Jordan).

They have to vote in secret because they still want to work for the Zionists.

The distinction between “administered by Egypt” and “part of Egypt” is not as significant as you suggest. The strip had been part of Egypt in the 19th century. The fact that the Ottomans and then the British controlled it briefly before 1948 doesn’t erase it’s cultural and political ties to Egypt.

[quote]Zionism, especially in America, is 100% a cult, but the cult leader is not a person. It’s a country.

[quote]Compare the mindset of Scientology and Zionism. Compare their strong arming tactics. They’re hard to tell apart. From birth, American Jews are indoctrinated in this cult.

American Jews are not patriotic Americans at all and instead swear allegiance to Israel than the USA.

They almost never criticize Israel for anything but don't have a problem shitting on the US like the Marxist Jews in the media/U.S. entertainment industry.

Seriously? Anti-Semitic crap like R70 on DL? And don't tell me that's not anti-Semitic. You literally said "American Jews are not patriotic Americans at all and instead swear allegiance to Israel" It doesn't get much more conspiracy-filled and anti-Semitic than that!

Thanks for your opinion, Nazi R70

He started right off by attacking Biden with all the MAGA and Russian psy-op nonsense about him being so old that he hardly remembers his own name. That’s when I tuned out. I don’t care if he said it with a smile and a couple of lame jokes. SNL is working in concert with most major media outlets and news operations to make sure that the orange fat fuck gets back into the White House.

[quote] They almost never criticize Israel for anything but don't have a problem shitting on the US like the Marxist Jews in the media/U.S. entertainment industry.

See r59.

There’s a TON of criticism of Israel by American Jews right now. A ton. You’re just a fucking Nazi.

Will he be banned from SNL?

No. He got raucous applause.

I wonder what he means by “Free Palestine?” Gazans had free elections once, after Israel withdrew. They elected Hamas and never had another free election. Does he mean freedom to leave Gaza? That would require them not to be a security threat to Israel and Egypt. Is that possible? Free of Israel? Free of all the Jews in Israel? Good luck with that. Under the control of the corrupt and feckless Palestinian Authority? Do they want that? It seems not.

“Free Palestine!” sounds so simple. Say it with your fist in the air and you can play “freedom fighter.”

When was the last successful revolution? Egypt? Syria? Ukraine?

Lorne Michaels is a Jew who is older than Israel.

[quote]Lorne David Lipowitz was born on November 17, 1944, to Florence (née Becker) and Henry Abraham Lipowitz,[7][8] on a kibbutz in the then British mandate of Palestine.[9][8][10] His Jewish family immigrated to Toronto, Canada when he was an infant.[11]

R44 If it's not about the land then why do they take a bit of for themselves every few years? Look at the map of Israel when it was created and look at the today's map. Notice any difference?

Hamas started the whole situation by invading Israel for the express purpose of killing as many people as possible, raping and mutilating , and kidnapping some to bring back as hostages. They knew Israel was not going to hold back, and come after Hamas who is deeply embedded within the Gaza population. They are more than willing to have tens of thousands of dead Palestinian because that suits their intended narrative as victims and get more support globally. The Netenyahu administration heavy handed policies over the last two decades has basically made an apartheid state, so they deserve a lot of blame as well. There was never going to e a winner here.

R28- Palestinians and Arabs in generally do not embrace

HOMOS- they kill them.

The LBGTQ community should make a pilgrimage to Palestine when all this is over and see how nicely they are accepted and treated as guests.

R80 How did they started the whole situation? What about Israel taking their land and their rights to live in their homeand? I'm pretty sure that started the whole situation.

The history is a lot more complicated than “Israel taking their land and their rights to live in their homeland?” But even assuming that your history lesson is accurate, and that history begins in 1948 (which, of course, it doesn’t), does what happen 80 years ago justify violence today? Does that principle apply universally to people who have lost their homes? May the native Americans slaughter everyone else in the US? May the Germans who used to live in what is now Poland take it back by force ? Can the Dutch reclaim New Amsterdam? Do you know anything about the partition of India?

Or is there a special rule that applies only to people displaced by the Jews?

Do we differentiate between people who bought land from Arab land-owners at fair market value (which is how most of the Jews in the British mandate wound up living there), or does that not matter? Does the fact that the buyers were Jews make the sales “taking Arab land?”

[quote] SNL is working in concert with most major media outlets and news operations to make sure that the orange fat fuck gets back into the White House.

Of course you mean the orange California guy who will owe Bill Clinton LOTS of profitable favors.