Old Hollywood Blind Item!- Actor/Singer fucked a minor then had her fuck his son for a commercial
“ This permanent A list actor/singer believed that a man should start having sex at the youngest age possible. Our A lister had started at a very young age when he was taken to a bordello by his father. Our A lister also liked his women young. The younger the better. His permanent A list wife was usually drunk and didn't care what our actor/singer did. Our singer/actor was casting a commercial and saw someone he really wanted to have. It was a not old enough yet to drive model who was auditioning for a role. Our actor/singer told the very attractive mom that he would cast the daughter if the mom would sleep with him. She did. He then cast the daughter. The daughter was super excited and told all her friends. The day of the shoot, the actor/singer said he was sorry, but he found someone else for the role unless the daughter slept with our actor/singer. Not wanting to go to her friends and tell them she didn't get the role, she slept with the actor/singer who was many decades older. The second day of the shoot, she was told she was being replaced unless she had sex with the also not yet old enough to drive son of the actor/singer. She did and the result was a baby nine months later.”
Who do you think it is? Desi Arnaz/Desi Arnaz Jr. fit the bill perfectly
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 69 | April 1, 2024 1:16 AM
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R2 when did Brando cast a commercial and when was he an actor and singer? And who was his permanent A List wife?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 31, 2024 3:28 AM
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Fernando and Lorenzo Llamas? Kirk and Michael Douglas? Jason Miller and Jason Patric? Douglas Fairbanks Sr and Jr? Henry and Peter Fonda? The Bridges?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 31, 2024 3:47 AM
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Donald and Kiefer Sutherland?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 31, 2024 3:50 AM
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Richard and Jared Harris?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 31, 2024 4:02 AM
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Richard Burton? He sang in Camelot..
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 31, 2024 4:05 AM
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^^ Richard Burton had daughters, but no son. Never mind.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 31, 2024 4:08 AM
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It's Desi Arnaz and son.
Desi Jr. and the girl may have both been 14 at the time, the model got pregnant and kept the baby.
Quote is from Wikipedia:
[quote]Arnaz has a daughter, Julia Arnaz, from a relationship with model Susan Callahan-Howe in 1968 when they were both 15 years old; Julia's relationship to Desi Jr. was proven by a paternity test in 1991.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 10 | March 31, 2024 4:12 AM
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"Bordello" is an Italian word, so that could be a clue as to the nationality-name of the father.
It also doesn't indicate that the son is any kind of celebrity himself other than that both his parents are (were) A List.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 31, 2024 4:15 AM
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Desi and Lucy were divorced by 1968.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 31, 2024 4:23 AM
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I’d say tge father and son were Frank Sinatra and Frank Jr., with Ava Gardner being the drunk wife, except that Jr. was only 13 when Frank and Ava divorced in 1957. That’s REALLY young.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 31, 2024 4:33 AM
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R11 Bordello is a word that is used all over the world. Its origin doesn’t change that it exists in other parts of Europe also.
Desi Arnaz’s father took him to a Bordello at age 12 to lose his virginity.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 31, 2024 4:47 AM
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We know Desi and Lucy were divorced by 1968 but they were still always linked to one another, and it’s still that way in modern day. I think their son being a minor at the time meant they were coparenting and Lucy never paid attention to what Desi was doing and was a drinker.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 31, 2024 4:50 AM
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Why name your son Daisy? Well but it shows how naive men are. He ruined his own son's life not only by forcing his first time with a woman but also letting him become a teenage dad. Tragic. Why didn't she abort?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 31, 2024 4:59 AM
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[quote]Our A lister also liked his women young. The younger the better.
Desi’s second wife was the same age as him, while Frank Sinatra was 50 and Mia Farrow was 19 when they paired up. Also, Desi was the alcoholic, and his drunk behavior was one of the many reasons Lucy divorced him. I think it was Sinatra and son.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 31, 2024 5:06 AM
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R18 who cares who he married? Desi was a known womanizer and the women he cheated with weren’t his wives ages.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 31, 2024 5:11 AM
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[quote]His permanent A list wife was usually drunk and didn't care what our actor/singer did.
To the people hung up on the year, at some point CDAN stated that he intentionally fudges or is vague some of the specifics, this blind item doesn't say the actor/singer was married at the time, it says his wife was usually drunk and didn't care - that is a true statement about Lucy and Desi's marriage and after they divorced. Don't take what he wrote so literally.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 31, 2024 5:16 AM
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If Desi was into younger women, he would have married one, after divorcing Lucy. It makes no sense.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 31, 2024 5:22 AM
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[quote]If Desi was into younger women, he would have married one, after divorcing Lucy
R22, the actor/singer was into sex with younger women, sex, not marriage. And this isn't even younger women, someone not old enough to drive is still a kid. A lot of musicians were into young girls in the 70s and 80s, but no one married Lori Mattix or Sable Starr.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 31, 2024 5:53 AM
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After Frank Sr. divorced Mia, at age 50 he started dating another 21 year old, Irene Tsu. Honestly, Frank Sr. and Frank Jr. rivaled Desi as womanizers. Jr. had 3 kids out of wedlock (not including the one in the blind item, if he indeed fathered a child when he was 12 or 13). Sr. was a sex addict who liked his women barely legal.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 31, 2024 5:55 AM
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Frank had a sexual relationship with Natalie Wood when he was 38 and Natalie was 15/16 according to her friends and Frank’s valet George Jacobs.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 31, 2024 5:57 AM
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Yes. Desi was also a sex addict, an alcoholic and a womanizer who was never faithful to any woman.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 31, 2024 6:00 AM
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Sinatra's father didn't take him to a brothel.
[quote]Desi, however, was born to wealth and privilege in Cuba. At the age of twelve, as an incentive to helping him lose his virginity, he was escorted to a local bordello by his father.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 27 | March 31, 2024 6:18 AM
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[quote]Sinatra's father didn't take him to a brothel
How do you know that, R27?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 31, 2024 6:20 AM
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Also, did Frank’s son become a teenage father? The blind says the father had the girl fuck his son (after she fucked him) and got pregnant.
Desi/Desi Jr check off every mark. Frank doesn’t.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 31, 2024 6:22 AM
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R29 I just looked up Desi Jr’s bio. The “model” is Susan Callahan-Howe You’re right, R29, that (along with the bordello story) does fit the B.I. perfectly, although calling Desi Sr. a “singer” is a bit of a stretch.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 31, 2024 6:45 AM
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[quote]Desi Arnaz’s father took him to a Bordello at age 12 to lose his virginity.
Who takes their son to lose his virginity at age 12? A boy can barely perform at that age.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 31, 2024 7:25 AM
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A 12 year old is typically going through puberty, and getting tons of erections against his own will.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 31, 2024 7:27 AM
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I hate to think that Arnaz or Sinatra were that depraved. I could believe it of Crosby because he could be one cold mean asshole. I was also thinking as big a drinker Desi was and has harried by all the responsibilities of business and his marriage, I don’t see where he got the energy to be a sex addict too.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 31, 2024 8:03 AM
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We should have a poll on which celebrity father and son pair DL would rather be tag-teamed by.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 31, 2024 8:11 AM
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[quote]His permanent A list wife was usually drunk and didn't care what our actor/singer did.
I don’t think it’s Desi because Lucy was not considered a drunk.She was more a workaholic rather than an alcoholic. I also think Lucy cared what Desi did, she just couldn’t control what he did.
Also, Desi was only A-List during I Love Lucy. Once that was over, he faded into the background.
I believe it’s Frank Sinatra.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 31, 2024 12:05 PM
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R36 Lucy very much was a drunk.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 31, 2024 1:09 PM
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Desi was always considered A-List. His name never went away.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 31, 2024 1:09 PM
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[quote]Lucy very much was a drunk.
No, she wasn't. You can't run a studio, do a Broadway show and do three physical comedy sitcoms if you're a drunk. Maybe she started drinking after Here's Lucy wrapped, but there's no way she could have done all she did as a drunk.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 31, 2024 1:57 PM
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Why would Sinatra be casting a commercial?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 31, 2024 2:58 PM
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R39 Lucy was bombed all the time. Everyone knew that.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 31, 2024 3:29 PM
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R39 yes, she was. A functioning drunk is still a drunk. Everyone knew this.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 31, 2024 4:20 PM
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Everybody was loaded back then.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 31, 2024 4:36 PM
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[quote][R39] yes, she was. A functioning drunk is still a drunk. Everyone knew this.
No, she wasn't.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 31, 2024 4:44 PM
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R45 retard, you denying it doesn’t change the facts.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 31, 2024 4:46 PM
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I knew that Lucy was passed around various casting couches, but had no idea she was used as a hooker to entertain clients or that Desi was kept by a gay dude.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 31, 2024 4:50 PM
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[quote]Why would Sinatra be casting a commercial?
He was a spokesman for Bulova watches in the 50s and 60s. They sponsored his TV series “The Frank Sinatra Show.”
by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 31, 2024 6:03 PM
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I admire Lucy’s hustle and determination. Of course she was cold after what her beginnings were like.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 31, 2024 7:06 PM
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Why would Desi be casting a commercial in 1968?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 31, 2024 7:44 PM
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[quote]Why would Desi be casting a commercial in 1968?
The gossip says the son was less than 16. Desi Jr was born in 1953. So if it was him, the time period is 1965-1969. So I think you're right. After I Love Lucy, Desi wasn't really active full time. I argue that he wasn't A-List after I Love Lucy/Lucy Desi Comedy Hour.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 31, 2024 10:17 PM
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He’s always been labeled A List. He was a Hollywood legend.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 31, 2024 10:26 PM
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Lucille Ball was not an alcoholic and I'm the dame to prove it.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 31, 2024 11:08 PM
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[quote]I admire Lucy’s hustle and determination. Of course she was cold after what her beginnings were like.
I do too. I don't care that she fucked for parts or rented her pussy. It just seems like that would have softened her a bit later in life when in came to the girls Desi Jr. was fucking around with.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 31, 2024 11:16 PM
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[quote]you denying it doesn’t change the facts.
FACTS? Some non-entity posting it on an anonymous gossip site doesn't make it fact.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 31, 2024 11:19 PM
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Ava Gardner was a bonafide alcoholic while married to Frank.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 31, 2024 11:19 PM
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It's hard to believe that both the mother and the daughter would sleep with the director, and then the daughter would also sleep with the director's son, just to be cast in a TV commercial.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 31, 2024 11:34 PM
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(A big part in a movie, maybe.)
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 31, 2024 11:34 PM
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Desi Sr was from an old school Cuban aristocratic familia, I can see him "initiating" his son into macho man hood. Also to people of the Sixties old Desi would still be A List even if we can't imagine. Lucy gave him directorial projects, there was one with Eve Arden, cannot recall the name.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 31, 2024 11:35 PM
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Desi was the only name mentioned with a permanent A list wife. It’s him. For once, Enty has a blind that actually checks out, that most people didn’t know about, and that wasn’t too easy.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 31, 2024 11:37 PM
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[quote]It's hard to believe that both the mother and the daughter would sleep with the director, and then the daughter would also sleep with the director's son, just to be cast in a TV commercial.
You obviously don't know any actors or stage parents. Especially in the free wheeling 60s and 70s, everybody was up for grabs.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 31, 2024 11:38 PM
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[quote]Desi was the only name mentioned with a permanent A list wife.
You don't think Frank Sinatra and Ava Gardener were permanent A list?
Lucy & Desi were tv stars. Would they really be considered A List?
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 31, 2024 11:46 PM
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The AGC blind item site already has this solved with Frank/Ava/Frank Jr.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 31, 2024 11:48 PM
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R63 They were bigger than many movie stars in the '50s. And they owned a studio that produced other shows. They were A list.
Ava Gardner might have been drunk sometimes but she was a functioning movie star/actress. And she did care what Frank did.
R62 I used to be an actor. It was a commercial. Not a part in a TV show or movie. I can't picture the mother and the daughter unquestioningly going to such lengths so the daughter could be cast in a 2 minute commercial that would air for a short time. And what kind of commercials was Desi Sr. directing, in the late '60s? Is there any evidence of it?
R60 The Mothers in Law was created by I Love Lucy writers Bob Carroll, Jr., and Madelyn Davis. It was produced by Desi for Desi Arnaz Productions and United Artists TV. It was based at Desilu. But it wasn't produced by Desilu.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 31, 2024 11:52 PM
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[quote]Desi Sr was from an old school Cuban aristocratic familia, I can see him "initiating" his son into macho man hood.
Frank Sr.’s dad, Anthony, was a prizefighter from Sicily, and he and Frank were very close. I can see him putting little Frank through the rites of manhood and taking him to bordellos. Honestly, there are a lot of parallels between the Arnez and Sinatra families.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 31, 2024 11:54 PM
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Frank's dad was supposedly a quiet man. He was a firefighter.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 31, 2024 11:55 PM
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[quote]It was produced by Desi for Desi Arnaz Productions and United Artists TV. It was based at Desilu. But it wasn't produced by Desilu.
When Lucy and Desi divorced, he sold her his share in Desilu. Then a few years later, he created Desi Arnaz Productions. She later created Lucille Ball Productions after selling Desilu. Desi attempted a few pilots for tv shows, with Carol Channing, Rory Calhoun and Spencer Tracy, none of which sold. His only success was The Mothers-in-Law.
And speaking of the Mothers-in-Law, I wonder if Eve Arden had a difficult time. She and Lucy were buddies going way back. Suddenly, she's leaving Desilu and going over to Arnaz Productions to do a series with them. I wonder if that pissed Lucy off?
by Anonymous | reply 69 | April 1, 2024 1:16 AM
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