Blind Item!- Harry got a bigger inheritance from Grandma than William

Well, she loved her wayward grandson. I'd do the same damn thing.

William receives £20+ million per year from the Duchy of Cornwall (for being Prince of Wales).

"I don't care. The crown is bejeweled and worth more than your sorry arse."

R2 cool. That has nothing to do with the Queen’s will.

I'm aghast at this life changing information!

Blind item?

It's commonly known that the Queen and Diana left Harry more, specifically because William would inherit the vast majority of the money as heir to the throne - something that he apparently will not have to wait until he's 70 to get, like dear old dad had to.

Whatever the Queen did or didn't leave anyone PALES in comparison to what Charles, then William, get for being King.

Who cares? The Queen always loved Harry a lot. Since he was a small child.

[quote] [R2] cool. That has nothing to do with the Queen’s will.

I think it does. Everybody (QE and Diana) knew that William would eventually have that huge source of income from being POW.

[QUOTE] Who cares? The Queen always loved Harry a lot. Since he was a small child.

Must have been all the more heartbreaking when he turned his back on her.

With any luck HArry stands to inherit a tidy sum from Papa sooner than he thought.

Yeah, I think King Charles, no matter what, never would remove Harry's name as a beneficiary on whatever Payable Upon Death financial accounts he has created.

KC knows Harry will need it. And he knows, right now, he has to make sure Harry isn't at the mercy of Willliam who, after Charles is dead, would like to see Harry living in a van down by the river, if he could manage it.

If Meghan has any notion of contemplating divorce, that's on the back burner until Charles dies.

She's not going to be the ex-wife when Harry comes into money. After that, I predict she'll jettison Harry, unless he dumps her first

R11 of course Charles isn’t gonna do that. Harry is his son no matter what.

Poor Harry! Living in the slums of Montecito, making multi-millions from marginal talent. Possibly having to dig into principal!

[quote] Harry is his son no matter what.

r12, the world is full of wealthy parents who have no qualms about not leaving their adult children even one penny.

And it isn't as though Harry hasn't handed him plenty of reasons for KC to at least have a daydream here and there about doing just that.

Charles will not disinherit Harry. He may do something that pisses Meghan off. He may give Harry his inheritance in installments. LOL! So Harry and his two kids will get a piece of money every five or ten years or so. Charles has a heart. He is not cold and unforgiving. He knows WIlliam is. Harry will even grovel to Camilla and apologize if it means PApa will forgive him. Charles believes in redemption. I mean Every time he looks in the mirror he thinks of it.

R6, Diana’s will was made public; she divided her estate evenly between her sons. The Queen Mother was heavily in debt when she died. It’s well-known that the royals don’t divide up their funds—everything passes from one monarch to the next. Everyone else in the family is supported comfortably by the King or Queen to the extent that they stay on message.

R16 The wealth passes to her son as the monarch, but she has stipulated who gets what. His job is to distribute it according to her wishes.

OP, stop posting shit from that fake web site.

I’m with R18, for the love of Muriel, please Stop posting this CDAN bullshit. It’s all fake.

OP is Davida Rochelle and she will never stop.

She was ASKED, many times, before people discovered who she was, to make ONE thread about Paul Mescal and ONE thread about Jacob Elordi. She refused.

Charles has probably already made private provision for his heirs because under UK tax law, anything you leave seven years before your death (usually in trust) is exempt from estate tax at 40% or whatever it is. William and Harry paid a big chunk of what Diana left them in tax.

Yes, Harold got a bigger inheritance, but I got the bigger bedroom growing up, and I have a bigger cock.

I also broke that little bitch's necklace.

FUnny. As I reflect on both of them, William does seem to lack a natural impulse for kindness. Charles has it.

You certainly seem well positioned to know.

R14 this isn’t a normal wealthy family. It’s the royal family. Not a Hollywood actor.

[quote]Davida Rochelle

CUNT

Why bother with a “blind” format if it’s so obvious?

William has the Duchy.

On the left hand side, R28?

How could the Queen Mother be in debt? Does a 100-year old woman go to the casino every weekend and bet away all her pocket money and tiaras?

R30 she went broke paying off Prince Andrew's victims.

The Queen Mother’s money was allocated to trusts before she died, that’s why she was “in debt”. The interesting thing is that she lived past the required seven years so they could be tax free.

R30, houses, horses, staffing houses, gin, jewels, gowns...

R30, she spent money with abandon, a million a year just on racing and horses, supposedly. I have heard, but can’t find Internet references to it now, that for some years in the 70s and 80s, before she was really ancient, she was the largest single buyer Veuve Clicquot champagne had.

Now the fact that she had £7,000,000 in debits when she died does not mean she died broke. Her personal estate was valued £50-£70,000,000 when she died, including fabulous jewels, a Monet and several Faberge eggs. The Monet and the Faberge were transferred to the royal collection to be held in trust for the nation however. A large portion of her estate was money she had put into a trust in 1994, 2/3 of her net worth at the time, for her grand and great-grandchildren.

I don’t understand why this is a blind item, nor why it’s being posted now. This was widely reported almost two years ago. Maybe it’s because she died on March 30 twenty-two years ago. CDAN must just look for news stories a few years old that people have forgotten to rehash and this happened to come up in the timeline.

Are we talking about QEII or QETQM?

The younger was “Grandma” to H&W.

No, overall he didn't. William got The Dutchy Of Cornwall from his father that is worth far more than all that Harry got from The Queen.

[quote]would like to see Harry living in a van down by the river,

Don't you mean the Thames?

I foresee the day (sooner than later) where it'll turn out that Harry is seen as being right all along. William has shown himself to be a jerk. What sane person in Harry's position would want to stick around and put up with that crap for the rest of his life.

TEAM HARRY!!!

A will is just a small piece of the puzzle. You have to look at titles and estates that automatically pass to the eldest, plus trust funds that are private to get the full picture. I’m sure W came out far ahead of H.

This blind item blog is something else. It's so low-key and old-school, I'd like to think these Blind Items might have some truth to 'em, the OP is supposedly an entertainment lawyer so they get the good gossip.

“ Enty’s real name is John Robert Nelson, a California attorney who ran for Congress in 2018… Nelson makes most of his income as an anonymous blogger. “For much of the past seventeen years, I have supplemented and then started making the vast majority of my income through an online blog and then in 2018 a podcast,”

I have no doubt William is a dick. That may justify Harry’s withdrawal, but not his betrayal. Harry wanted to continue to live like a prince and he sold out his family to finance it. Nothing to admire there.

I heard William likes to be done up the duchy.

BIG TIME PEG WHORE!

He must've ridden a peg that had HPV on it, R43. If only Kate's uterus could speak.

Serioiusly, the word 'might' is right there at the start. 'Might' and 'could' in BIs and headlines mean INVARIABLY 'won't' and 'doesn't'. This is basic stuff.

The monarchy benefits from a law which allows the monarch’s private fortune to pass down to the next monarch, free of inheritance tax, so QEII’S fortune (in the hundreds of millions, at least) passed on to Charles. Queen Elizabeth II may have listed some desired bequests, but the vast majority of the fortune will pass through Charles to William.

[quote] That may justify Harry’s withdrawal, but not his betrayal.

When things in a family such as the Windsors get so bad, betrayal is the only thing that will make most of them sit up and take notice. Trying to reason with people like that in the background is useless. You have to do something that embarrasses them publicly to get their attention. I think Harry did exactly what was needed. At least now the rest of the family knows they'd better watch their step. I'm betting Harry knows infinitely more of their dirty secrets that could be revealed if they don't.

Say what you want, but the Queen truly loved her grandson.

The Royal 👸 Family and all of those titles should have been phased out after the First World War.

So, R47, just to follow your reasoning, I think was the word, Harry is entitled to hold those dirty secrets on a coercive basis to assure they follow what I guess would be his version of watching the step, and that's ok, but he is not obligated to expose all he knows about this venal bunch on an ethical basis so that we can all form our opinions? Because I guess that would undermine his ability to extort? Or police them based on some universal ethical standard that we assume we all share with him?

I'm quite slow, so really looking forward to your explanation.

It won't bring him any happiness though because he's circumcised and as a result has a dry insensitive cock.

R48 Are you relying on Harry's evaluation for that opinion? Since he likes to ruin thngs and regularly lies right in front of his family's face, I reckon the Queen liked the idea of him much more than the reality.

Or the memory of the boy, not the character of the man.

Why you're exactly right R50. Harry is not obligated to do a damn thing. Corrupt people (even if they're family members) have to be held to a different standard, and face it, if you dig down deep enough into the innerworkings of that family you'll find the Windsor clan is as corrupt as can be. If the only way to let them know they can't control you is to hold their secrets over their heads, well that's just the price that must be paid.

that's it ^ thanks

Ah, really interesting. Thanks, R54. Glad to know you're out there in the world.

(My post at R55 was meant for R53. I have all weak willed persons blocked.(

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Thank you, R14

R23 maybe William is less inclined towards kindness as he did so much to help his brother, including letting him third-wheel with Kate, until Harry became vindictive, spiteful and destructive?

It's different when it's your child vs your trouble-making brother, whom you know has already had so many chances and has had it easier than you who's always had to be the good, sensible one.

If rumors are at all true then Charles was all for throwing shitty Andrew over, which The Queen would never allow.

R42 I don't see William as being a dick. From Harry's own memoirs it sounds like he turned against his brother mainly because he raised objections to Meghan. Didn't he raise concerns about how she was treating the staff?

He would have been a dick if he hadn't. William probably withdrew from Harry as he saw there was no point trying to continue.

R47, you're saying that Harry blackmails his family whenever he wants money. Blackmail is a crime so Harry and Meghan are criminals if your post is true. If he is indeed trying to blackmail his family, it's not working out, is it? Because he and his wife are hurting for money and have been ostracized by the royal family, the British public and most of the world at this point. His father barely gave him the time of day when Harry flew back to London after the King's cancer diagnosis, and his brother just ignores him. They're not exactly falling over themselves to give him what he wants.

Harry has plenty of dirt of his own. There are stories out there of him beating up prostitutes, using racist slurs when he was in the army, and paying someone to do his exams in college (because he's not that bright). The BRF had to work overtime to cover for him.

He has said in recent interviews that he would like to reconcile with his family but they're the ones who don't want to reconcile with him.

I hope all the other grandchildren got the same amount as Harry if he was being compensated for not getting as much as William.

[quote] Didn't he raise concerns about how she was treating the staff?

Based on what I've read about the staff in Buckingham Palace it may just be that Meghan was justified in giving them what for. The staff there is reputed to be as uppity as many of the Royal Family and known to treat new family members by marriage very dismissively.

R63 Doubtful. That family has an obvious pecking order, even for grandchildren and great-grandchildren. The children of the heir come first, then the children of the male line (by age), then the elderly offspring of the beloved dead uncles (Henry and Georgie), and whatever coins are left over go to the children of the womenfolk.

Charles and his sons.

Then Andrew and his girls.

Then Edward and his freaks.

Then the Gloucesters, Kents, and maybe Alexandra.

Anne's children get to do BBC interviews, and are allowed to cash the checks afterward. And if Lady Sarah weren't so beloved by the family, she'd be sleeping in the stables with Fergie.

The weird thing about the queen is that while she had clear favorites among her children, she did not seem to have them among her grandchildren. She seemed to have loved all of them equally.

R66 It's always that way with children and grandchildren.

Grandkids and grandparents get along because they share a common enemy!

R47, you may well be right, but Harry also learned something. He benefited financially from his TV special and his book, but it is no joke out here. Once you step out of the bubble of incredible wealth and privilege, you better keep your mouth shut if you expect to benefit financially at any future time from you blood ties. And that is the truth as contradictory as it seems. I wonder if Charles will stipulate that HArry's inheritance comes with strings involving his discretion about the family so as not to undermine William. Although to be honest, William is going to make some drastic changes. He will definitely be king. But he is going to modernize it big time.

[quote] I wonder if Charles will stipulate that HArry's inheritance comes with strings involving his discretion about the family so as not to undermine William.

To my knowledge a will can not stipulate a beneficiary act a certain way in the future. You can either leave someone an inheritance or not. How they comport themselves after you're dead is their business.

What you on about, r65? The line of succession (which no longer has male primogeniture) has nothing to do with how the Windsors are with each other. In fact, as has been stated, a twit like Harry is more likely to inherit more because his older brother will have estate to run.

And what a creep you are for calling Edward's kids "freaks".

R64, don't forget, you've been reading bullshit.

But, good admission, r64 that Meghan was a bitch to the staff.

Oh I've never doubted she was sharp with them. But, as I said. They may just have deserved it.

The staff tests the newcomers. If you're timid and self effacing and cry easily, tough shit. But if you get more royal than thou, and go off on them, bully them and act high handed then you pass the test, and can become a Royal.

The thing most Americans do not get is that politeness counts for a lot. YOu can be a nasty piece of work, but if you have manners you can manage.

R51 has a slimy sticky uncircumcised cock.

I doubt very much they deserved it, r73. We never hear of any other such complaints about the staff, whereas Meghan's own colleagues on Suits seem to have disassociated from her. Granted, there may have been some cultural differences as Meghan hadn't been in the UK for long and she had entered a very unique situation. One might expect her, then, to make the slightest effort to learn how things are done in this new and unique environment, but Meghan didn't bother to make any such effort.

R73, “sharp” may not really capture it. According to those who did work with her she repeatedly targeted people to bully. There’s no excuse for that.

my American friends who have lived in the UK for a while tell me there is a real, significant difference in how they approach work. One of my friends said she used to get very impatient with them, but after 12 years she's very used to it and would never work in corporate America again.

Markle has a degree from Northwestern University in International Relations. She served an internship in a foreign embassy.

Those two facts, among others (mid 30s, been around the block a few times) always had me puzzling as to why she wasn't motivated to research what milieu was getting into, why she wasn't able to read the room when she was introduced to the BRF as Harry's girlfriend.

Why didn't she know that to be a working Royal wasn't to be a celebrity? I think it's reasonable to wonder about that.

I'm not excusing any negative behaviors from others she was subject to while in the immediate orbit of the BRF, and from the tabloids.

But I do wonder about how she's expressed her total surprise about what she was getting into.

It all suggests to me ulterior motives by her.

There is an artifice to Markle. And, she's just plain unlikable. They both are.

R80, my African American Auntie feels the same way about MM. But she loves HArry. She just says he's been through a lot and is an emotionally fragile person like his mother. She means he's unstable but she prefers "emotionally fragile."

R80, Meghan had already found her natural level in life. She was vaguely famous, she went on trips, she had a blog. She didn’t go any farther in entertainment because she didn’t have the talent or understanding of what was involved. When she married Harry she was, basically,, promoted above her level of competence.

What Meghan didn't understand was the entire concept of the House of Windsor's commitment to service and also to a hierarchical structure. I don't think Meghan had a problem with the commitment to service. But the structure was etched in stone and was inalterable. So it was The Queen, Charles & Camilla, William and Catherine, then Harry. She could not promote herself and be the focus of attention. It was disruptive to the order of things. It would never ever change. She could not embrace anything the Firm defined as controversial, and go off and promote it. There were just too many guard rails for her and she resented it. As for the pecking order, when Charles became King, William would move up. He was the future King. Harry was always going to be twelve steps behind, figuratively speaking. He had a role to play and it was never going to change. I don't think she could accept that.

Was Meghan's recent self-serving visit to those poor kids in hospital, who were obviously not having a good time, an example of her "commitment to service", r83? Since when did "promoting herself and being the focus of attention" anything to do with service? Anne and Sophie perform service to the causes they are close to very well. It's not about self-promotion and wanting to be the centre of attention. That is the opposite of service.

R83 Fergie had that same quandary. She loved the attention and the cash, but was shocked to learn that she wasn't married to the main player.

[QUOTE]He has said in recent interviews that he would like to reconcile with his family but they're the ones who don't want to reconcile with him.

Didn't Harry also say he requires an apology in order to reconcile?

[QUOTE] I don't think Meghan had a problem with the commitment to service.

Wasn’t she overheard commenting before some appearance in the UK "I can't believe I'm not getting paid for this?" It may have been meant as a joke, but it's rather telling. This shortly after hitting the jackpot via marriage into a fabulously wealthy family. Not shabby for an aging starlet with an expiration date. But apparently not good enough for her.

R85 Fergie was neighbours of the Royal Family as a child and was playmates with the royal children. She was fully aware of what she was marrying into, an what her position would be.

[quote] It may have been meant as a joke, but it's rather telling. This shortly after hitting the jackpot via marriage into a fabulously wealthy family. Not shabby for an aging starlet with an expiration date. But apparently not good enough for her.

This right here^ by r86.

I thought Markle was shrewd, and I mean that in a good way; more hard-headed about where her life was when she snagged Harry.

I thought she would think, "This is the role of a lifetime. True, I won't be at the same stature as Kate, but I won't have the same degree of responsibility and headaches, either."

That I was wrong about that? Ok.

But I don't think their desired "A List" celebrity gig has been achieved by them.

I think it's not to be dismissed out of hand that they themselves are realizing they may have cut off their noses to spite their face.

It will be interesting to see if Markle follows through on accompanying Harry to the Invictus games in the UK.

See? At least with me they've managed to turn their failures into a cause to keep my interest. That's saying something for them.

I don't think they'll ever grasp they've fucked this up, on the basis they keep making the same mistakes over and over. They seem very childish, the two of them, with no grasp that actions have consequences.

Fergie was a quick learner and she resented Diana's popularity and knack for being center of attention. They were frenemies at best, rivals really. Fergie knew her position but she also felt like it freed Andrew and her to do their own thing and be famous for being famous.

The problem was they really couldn't be free to do their own thing since Andrew's Navy career took him away from home for months on end during the marriage. I suspect if he had retired earlier or had a post close to home or at the MoD, Sarah wouldn't have strayed with the Texan and they wouldn't have divorced.

[quote]How could the Queen Mother be in debt?

The Queen Mother lived the lifestyle of an Edwardian Lady of the 1920s to the day she died. Think a British version of "The Great Gatsby," in terms of lifestyle.

This is DL so I can be pedantic: William automatically became the Duke of Cornwall upon his father's accession. That is technically independent of being named POW, it just so happens that his father did that the next day. I think it was something like 24 hours where William was styled "Duke of Cornwall and Cambridge". Once he was named POW that title took precedence.

I adore the Royal Family.

R30,

The Queen Mother was from the Edwardian era, when aristocrats were either travelling between country houses to follow the shooting, or themselves entertaining on a lavish scale. She lived that life unselfconsciously despite the changing times.

She had a huge London home, Clarence House, as well as her own Castle of Mey in Scotland to run, both with a full complement of staff. She held frequent lunches serving only the best champagne, and lots of it.

She also bred racehorses, which is incredibly expensive. She was infamous for her overspending, and her daughter had to bail her out on many occasions. She was always in trouble with Coutt’s bank. She was indulged by the public because they were amused by the cheek of it.

R89, narcissists never see their own mistakes or flaws - it's always someone else's fault. Narcissists like the Harkles just see themselves as victims.

From R80

[quote] Markle has a degree from Northwestern University in International Relations.

WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

No, she does not.

This tale has been floating around since it first popped up on the old Dangling Tendrils threads.

Given that there was suspicion at the time that this was not true, I hunted around and found the following. A copy of the program from Northwestern University's Annual Commencement on June 20, 2003.

See page 21, column 3. Name: Rachel Meghan Markle. Her degree was a "Bachelor of Science in Communications" from "The School of Communication".

Wtf is a degree in "General Studies"?

It's because Harry is the hot one.

Hilarious, r99.

Harry got more money up front because William as Prince of Wales has access to vast amounts of money from the Duchy of Cornwall. It”s basically a mediaeval slush fund beyond the usual scrutiny.

Well Charles is now worth quite a bit. So maybe he will fix it up so Harry will never have to ask William for anything. If Harry would just sit down and keep his mouth shut and avoid tabloid type publicity, he might be invited to serve on the boards of a few organizations that pay their board members a generous stipend. That would give him the foundation he might need to do some credible charity work with two or three organizations and not be like horsehit. Horseshit is everywhere. I'm not too interested in what his wife does. I have a feeling they will split up once Charles is gone and Harry gets his money.I never thought I would see Beatrice and Eugenie as examples, but Harry needs to follow their path. They both have jobs and they both do some decent charity work. Zara Tindall has horses, but Peter Phillips has a real job and he does product endorsement deals. So does George Clooney for that matter. Of course Clooney is a celebrity not a Royal.

Zara Tindall is an Olympic Gold Medalist and has lots of endorsement deals. Her gold medal was earned honestly.

Harry loves the attention. When he went on-stage for that Covid event a few years ago, he was lapping up the applause and whistles from the crowd.

He thinks he's so important that people are out to hurt/kill his wife. Most people just love watching them grasp and fail.

Harry was popular in the UK before Meghan. Not so much now. If he were to come back I don't think he'd be as welcome as he once might have been. That ship has sailed. People have moved on and right now, Charles has a lot of sympathy and support from the public. Meghan especially, and HArry better "read the room." so to speak.