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Is America headed towards Communism?

"The Communist Rules for Revolution"

These rules were captured in Dusseldorf, Germany, in 1919 by the Allied Forces:

1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness.

2. Get control of all means of publicity.

3. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities.

4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

5. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule, and obloquy.

6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit and produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the population helpless.

by Anonymousreply 30April 1, 2024 1:00 AM

No. Next question?

by Anonymousreply 1March 30, 2024 10:44 PM

As reproduced in the example above, one purportedly genuine document of such ilk is a list of "Communist Rules for Revolution" which is typically claimed to have been discovered "in May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, by allied forces" and "first printed in the United States" in the Bartlesville, Oklahoma Examiner-Enterprise. Aside from the fact that the Examiner-Enterprise is a real newspaper, none of this rings true. Language about getting the young "interested in sex" and focusing their attention on "sexy books" and fretting about the "registration of all firearms" sounds out of place for 1919 (as this Ngram chart shows, "sexy" is a word one was far more likely to have encountered in America during the post-World War II era than in 1919), and not surprisingly, nobody has ever managed to turn up the mysterious issue of Examiner-Enterprise that supposedly printed this list.

When columnist Bob Greene checked out the "Communist Rules for Revolution" with Russian specialists at the University of Chicago and Northwestern University in the mid-1980s, they said the list was "a total fraud," "an obvious fabrication," and "an implausible concoction of American fears and phobias." Greene also observed: "I always wanted to meet a communist who was carrying the list around, so I could ask him what 'obloquy' means."

When The New York Times ran an article on the "Communist Rules for Revolution" back in 1970, it had already been circulating for about twenty-five years. The Times reported that neither the National Archives, the Library of Congress, nor university libraries had a copy of any such document. When Montana senator Lee Metcalf looked into the issue back then, he checked with the FBI, CIA, and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee; he found that "exhaustive research" had proved the rules to be "completely spurious," and he declared that "the extreme right also follows rules, one of which is to make maximum use of false, misleading and fear-inspiring quotations."

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by Anonymousreply 2March 30, 2024 10:53 PM

I am an American.

J can say with certainty, Americans are under-educated by choice.

We don't know the difference between communism and socialism. And don't care about the difference.

Also. Inflation is due to this

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by Anonymousreply 3March 30, 2024 10:54 PM

God I hope so.

by Anonymousreply 4March 30, 2024 10:55 PM

R4 is a Palestinian Trans Womynx of Color who can’t wait to teach her yoga class under Sharia law in her burka.

by Anonymousreply 5March 30, 2024 10:58 PM

Christ, the twatbots from Trumprussiastan are heaving their malignant bosoms all over the DL, one sees.

A curse on them.

by Anonymousreply 6March 30, 2024 10:58 PM

America's too individualist of a society. It takes a crisis for Americans to express any form of solidarity, and I think 9/11 was the last time it happened.

by Anonymousreply 7March 30, 2024 11:00 PM

Americans have hyper-glycemic levels of capitalist consumption. Communism doesn't work. Sacrifice for a greater good isn't human nature. But our form of Capitalism that lulls you into a coma with the hint of choice, like the color of your iphone so you can "be you!" is the best thing I have seen so far to rule the masses and get them to do what you want. Americans can't leave their front doors and come back home without spending money on something - whether it's a pack of gum to a new computer.

by Anonymousreply 8March 30, 2024 11:03 PM

That list has been widely debunked as fake.

US is more likely to head into a fascist dictatorship given who a lot of people are likely up vote for at the next election. I only hope sanity prevails.

by Anonymousreply 9March 30, 2024 11:03 PM

Of course not. We've literally toppled the governments of sovereign countries for implementing mildly socialist policies. I'm interested to see how Western capitalists cope with population decline though. After quality of life increases in Asia and the coming decades of immigrant infusion, western capitalists will eventually have to find another source of magically desperate workers and magically wealthy customers.

by Anonymousreply 10March 30, 2024 11:17 PM

Fuck no, we're all about freedom.

by Anonymousreply 11March 30, 2024 11:28 PM

No, we pledge allegiance to all oligarchs everywhere and wish only to serve glorious billionaires forever and ever and ever.

Fear not, OP (but sleep with one eye open, cause yeah, we're coming for you).

by Anonymousreply 12March 30, 2024 11:34 PM

More like a Capitalist, Christian, Dictatorship if Trump and his psycho crew get back into power.

by Anonymousreply 13March 31, 2024 12:52 AM

Yes, America is moving toward abolishing private property. It will happen May 1!!!

by Anonymousreply 14March 31, 2024 12:56 AM

What’s next dipshit OP? The Protocols of Elder Zion?

by Anonymousreply 15March 31, 2024 12:58 AM

[quote] Corrupt the young... Get them interested in sex.

Yes it takes communism to get the young interested in sex.

(Rolls eyes)

by Anonymousreply 16March 31, 2024 1:01 AM

Sounds like something written by a Qanon Magat.

by Anonymousreply 17March 31, 2024 1:10 AM

Communism's biggest success story is the CCCP's remaking of the world economy, but not a lot of successes elsewhere. Like Cuba, which I would have left in the 'likely to remain Communist' column and then the last few weeks have dispensed with those notions.

So a hard no OP

by Anonymousreply 18March 31, 2024 1:14 AM

Another moronic, Trumptard thread. There hasn’t been a strong left wing in this country for decades, OP, so no there’s no chance of Communism taking root here. We are far more likely to have fascist dictatorship here. Headed by Jabba the Trump and placed in power by a MAGA coup d’etat.

by Anonymousreply 19March 31, 2024 2:00 AM

Trump has about another six years left of life in him. Since he was elected in 2016, almost ten years ago, there is no one his equal in the republican party who can replace him. His death will be a huge vacuum that would make and fledgling facist dictatorship impossible to maintain. Fascism is about a charismatic leader just as much as it is about policy.

by Anonymousreply 20March 31, 2024 8:12 AM

The radical 'woke' liberals desperately want to bring it to America for some reason despite Communism ruining countless European/Asian/Latin American countries in the 20th century.

California and New York are pretty much communist police states nowadays, but many Americans are fleeing those very 'woke' states for more conservative pastures (i.e. South/Midwest).

Thus, the 'woke' won't be successful nationwide.

by Anonymousreply 21March 31, 2024 8:45 AM

Balkan shithead magats

by Anonymousreply 22March 31, 2024 8:59 AM

That list is as fake as OP's tan, having done the rounds for that long that I think I have a typed version on foolscap somewhere.

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by Anonymousreply 23March 31, 2024 10:43 AM

R21, guessing you’ve never been to New York or California.

Happy Easter from the (decidedly non) communist police state of New York.

by Anonymousreply 24March 31, 2024 11:21 AM

R21 like who? bernie sanders is the farthest left politician in congress and he doesn't even support UBI or full nationalization of healthcare. I'm not aware of him ever demanding that all businesses engage in equity and profit sharing. He's a new deal democrat who promotes catching up with the most basic regulatory needs for a state capitalist system. There is practically no left wing in the United States at all.

by Anonymousreply 25March 31, 2024 11:58 AM

[quote]California and New York are pretty much communist police states nowadays,

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

by Anonymousreply 26March 31, 2024 12:01 PM

I had OP blocked. No surprises there.

by Anonymousreply 27March 31, 2024 12:02 PM

OP is a troll.

by Anonymousreply 28March 31, 2024 12:40 PM

OP uses Communism like people on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability, Food Stamps and sending their kids to public school use Socialism.

by Anonymousreply 29March 31, 2024 5:23 PM

R18, I don't know that I even consider China communist so much as state-sponsored, authoritarian capitalism.

by Anonymousreply 30April 1, 2024 1:00 AM
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