Appearing together at a fund-raiser in open-neck shirts, do ex Presidents look casual or ‘a little disheveled’?

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Jason Bateman looks so HOT in this photo. I love the long hair and beard.

Bateman looks fucking ridiculous here. He’s like a homeless meth-head

Maybe I just woke up horny or something, but I think they all (the presidents) look surprisingly sexy like that. Having Obama present somehow makes Biden seem younger and more virile.

Obama, Biden, and Clinton together in one room is like the trifecta of Elder-BDE.

Ties are so tired. In case you haven't noticed, men of all ages have been ditching the tie for the last decade or so, in all professions. I know, I know, "they will never go out of style, they make a man look professional," yeah, so did the top hat.

That's our guys! Our sexy presidents!

r5 I get neither the appeal nor the purpose of ties, worst piece of garment ever "invented". And for some reason wearing one is a mark of respectability. Who decided that, anyway?

Who sent the “no neckties, please” dress code?

Eldergays are still bitter that women don't wear white gloves and hats in public anymore, how do you think they feel about no ties on men?

I watched a sort of documentary about Bateman, Hayes and Arnett’s podcast taping on the road. It showed the relationships between the guys and a bit of their interaction in hotels, planes and backstage. It looked like Bateman had the tightest focus on staying trim and fit. He was very blunt about it. Staying trim is as big of a deal for men as it has always been for women. It’s like a sign of stature.

It is for me, R10. I’m at the same weight as I was over 40 years ago, when I was in my mid-20s.

Is the necktie going the way of the monocle?

R8 I'd like to believe that after a few drinks, Obama went down the line slowly removing each of their ties.

I don't mind the no tie thing but it looks better with less corporate looking suiting like sortscoats, grey or lighter tones.

With a dark blue worsted suit, it just looks like you took it off after leaving work.

The necktie is antiquated. These days the only message it sends is stodgy old man. The "professional" appearance it once was know for is gone.

I imagine ties are still required in courtrooms.

Obama looks like shit.

Neckties can also sometimes look like you work on the sales floor of a posh department store or maybe antique store.

Ties haven’t served a purpose in ages. It makes sense that they would go away completely. But, although they all look good, the attire seems too casual for an expensive fundraiser. I don’t know what the alternative is, though.

President Obama looks really thin and slight. Bateman is a rail, and he looks sturdier than Obama when standing beside him. The photo is unusual. It shows the posture and build of these men in a relatively “unstaged” setting. Hayes looks like he trimmed way down, even since the taping of this season of Curb Your Enthusiasm (he plays Larry’s attorney).

I read a long time ago in Movieline about some of the things performers do to stay thin. It’s pretty rough. Colonics before an event, salt water to somehow make you look leaner and more defined, and for a while phenteramine and stimulants like that.

Biden always looks great in blue.

They look happy not wearing ties. Makes all of them look younger. Clinton looks better than usual.

I wouldn't have recognized Sean Hayes... Time marches on

They look fine. Trump kind of killed the whole tie thing with his extra-long red stained bib he wears all the time

And not a single tan suit anywhere 🙄

Is the necktie on its way out? Why that's bad news for Joe Biden.

Someone needs to photoshop Trump in full prison garb in there so the world can see who the gate crasher was in this very exclusive club

I love the look of a dress suit and necktie on anybody.

Male, female, binary, non-binary, what-have-you.

But I do agree with what's posted here, too. Neckties are on the way out and should be, I suppose.

I’m looking at the photo again and maybe the shirts do look a little disheveled. Moving past neckties makes sense, but maybe a different style of shirt needs to be adopted.

I don’t know. The suit and tie uniform was designed to make a point - I’m a professional who knows the rules and you can assess my status by observing the details of my uniform. It hasn’t been functional for a long time. It requires tailoring, dry-cleaning, it’s not super comfortable, it’s hot in summer.

But if it’s not a little bit hard, where do we end up? Track suits? So where do you draw the line? Ties don’t make sense, But neither does dry cleaning or wearing a blazer in August.

I'm guessing it was coordinated and some strategist gave it the okay. Not likely everyone would just coincidentally not wear a tie, especially President Biden.

Will Arnett looks hot as fuck here.

R25 -- exactly. Fuck the Times

Liberal Hollywood Eeee-LEETS!!

I still enjoy wearing a tie from time to time. I know this will sound weird, but I feel I actually look younger and more fit when I have a tie on.

They look good with this natural pose looking at ease and happy.

Maybe I’m reading into this too much but maybe the lack of a tie is to differentiate front stuffy looking dump in his ill fitting ties which has been ridiculed.

Will Arnett's cosmetic work doesn't look good.

Disheveled?!?! Too casual would be a matter of opinion, but in no way are they disheveled. That is ridiculous. It's not like they have jeans with holes in them or untucked shirts even.

R34 / good point

Anybody can look good standing next to that fat assed pig Donald Trump, what with the cotton candy hair and orange day-glo makeup.

What the fuck, NYT? This merited an article?? And yet Dump speaking with apparent dementia is ignored?

[quote] What the fuck, NYT? This merited an article??

Well, the reporting journalist does write for the Style section of the paper.

In these last few years the Biden camp has successfully created and image/brand of him in brighter blue suits and blue/striped/patterned ties. He's walked like grandpa with arthritis, but he's looked crisp and sharp. He/they have successfully turned the tables on the ubiquitous red power tie that is Trump's brand. Trump's red ties, while they still work for MAGA (in fact it would disappoint them to see him in anything else... like going to see Minnie Pearl without the hat and price tag), it looks old, fusty, smelling like leaked urine, hairspray, and sour elder breath.

I retired several years ago and gave away several hundred ties. Kept 20 or so just for special occasions. I've worn one once, even with weddings, funerals, symphony etc. Ties just look old and out of touch now. Contradicting a post upthread: especially older men should eschew them.

I don't blame them for not wearing ties. They wore them daily as POTUS for years and are probably sick and tired of them.

Why is tying a rag around your throat considered fashionable in the first place?

They should have unbuttoned their jackets, as well, IMO.

Will Arnett's shirt looks too thin (cheap) and I can see horizontal folds, like it just came out of the package.

For the look to work, it's got to be a very nice shirt. Hidden placket would have been better. (Ignore the tie bar and that the buttons are buttoned all the way up.)

Bill's suit looked ill-fitting. I think he is still really skinny. Him being at the margin of the photo stretched him out.

@r41, Once I retired all my ties went into the garbage. I no longer sport a corporate look for ANYONE. Being retired is so cool 🙂

Oh, I have to go to a funeral? Nice pair of jeans and a button down shirt

[quote[Trump kind of killed the whole tie thing with his extra-long red stained bib he wears all the time

FOR FUCK'S SAKE NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT TRUMP.

The no-tie trend has been going on for many years. The tech industry redefined business dress codes and it carried over into other industries.

^ This thread is about former presidents not wearing ties and yes, Mary, that includes Trump

R46 Like R47 says... or said another way FOR FUCK'S SAKE NOT EVERY TRUMP MENTION IS INAPPROPRIATE

And no one would be happier to be the center of everyone's attention than the pathological narcissist Donald Trump.

Will Arnett is doing something to his hair. He’s got more than he used to. Also, I once saw him change in the locker room at the Tribeca Equinox about 15 years ago. He was married to Amy Poehler at the time I saw his naked butt.

Top that, ladies!

Shame on Guy Trebay. He’s become a NYT Pitchbot working there.

[quote] I saw his naked butt.

And?! How was it?

r47/r48 we're also talking about the general trend of no ties. Fuck, you're all obsessed with Trump

^ The lady doth protest too much, methinks

Nope r54. Just that not every goddamn thing is about Trump. You shut-ins should get out more. The no-tie fashion has been going on since the tech boom and has trickled down into mainstream society.

They look like they're having or have been having a good time. I wonder what they talk about, and all the secrets they know that we don't.

UFOs r56! UFOs!

@r55, Tells us more about Trump... 😂

which website do we go to if we want to read non paywalled stuff? paywall=======>unpaywall

The non-paywall article is at R1.

While I feel more comfortable wearing a tie, because for me it pulls together the whole look, the Presidents look great the way they were dressed.

That guy in the T shirt looks worst.

He was President Will Truman's VP.

2nd of left is not bad… not bad…

R3 You've never seen a homeless meth head.