Beyoncé’s “Cowboy Carter” is the album of the year, EASILY

I like how she flipped the Jolene song from begging “please don’t take my man” to warning her “don’t come for my man”.

This is what plays right before Jolene starts on the album.

[quote]I like how she flipped the Jolene song from begging “please don’t take my man” to warning her “don’t come for my man”.

I won't bother to listen to the song, but if true, how ghetto.

R3 fuck off.

Love love love this one. Her and Miley ate.

I have to say I disagree. I listened to the album today and thought it was fine.

No song really stood out to me as a banger. The country vibe seemed kind of disingenuous

You first, r4.

Your "Queen" is pure trash.

[quote] I like how she flipped the Jolene song from begging “please don’t take my man” to warning her “don’t come for my man”.

Why mess with a classic like that. Even the guy who sang Fast Car didn't change the gender of the narrator.

Because she is so fucking edgy, r8!

Whitney recording Dolly is one thing, Beyoncé is just a disgrace. Of course for Dolly, money is money. Go Dolly!

R6 well most disagree with you.

R8 Dolly signed off on it babes. It’s fine. Shes getting paid for Bey’s version also.

[quote][R8] Dolly signed off on it babes. It’s fine. Shes getting paid for Bey’s version also.

Well, $.

She’s always liked Beyonce.

Great, another Treeoncey thread.

[quote]She’s always liked Beyonce.

Who doesn't like Beyonce?

[quote] [R8] Dolly signed off on it babes. It’s fine. Shes getting paid for Bey’s version also.

Glad to hear that Dolly does not have to sue for copyright infringement.

Yasss Kween thread. They’re so low IQ.

Wonder when she’ll drop her next album after her and Jay-Z’s properties are searched by the Feds for sex trafficking evidence.

R19 lmao Jay. She won’t be in trouble for what he’s done in the past.

Beyoncè should be threatening Jay-Z, not his other women.

The album is horrible.

It’s amazing.

It’s a bunch of screaming and clattering noise. Trash music for trashy people.

Jolene is sacred to a lot of us. I’m glad she does it Justice.

Beyoncé has revived Country!

R26 hahahahahahahahahahahaha

She looks like Kim Kardashian at R26.

Oh for the love of God! How many threads will there be for this new album? Mother fuck! Muriel please do something.

OP is responsible for 70% of the comments in this thread. FF for posting about this ghetto single-digit IQ bitch.

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Please. I did this 50 years ago. This bitch has copied me for years.

NYPost loves to trash Beyonce. Even they like this one.

Bitch tries so hard.

[quote]Her and Miley ate.

All the proof I need that this poster is 15 years old.

I did the whole horseback thing so much better.

Her version of Jolene is so iconic already.

“Jolene, Jolene Jolene, Jolene, I know I’m a Queen, Jolene, I’m still a Creole Banjee Bitch from Louisiana”

🤣 she’s letting Jolene know she will slap the shit out of her if needed.

Beyonce is the affirmative action of the music industry.

[quote] —And it’s “Miley and she,” beyotch.

You sound pretty young, as well.

R45 that would make sense if she was the only black music artist to have success ever.

I'm already tired of hearing about this album.

"Texas Hold 'Em" was uninspired. I suppose I'll give the whole thing a listen this weekend, just to be fair.

I really like the few tracks I’ve heard so far so I’m definitely intrigued about the rest of the album now.

I'm in a late meeting tonight and can't listen properly. But, I did sneak a listen to the opening track and it's... REALLY good. But, it's definitely not country. It's more like... psychedelic 70s rock with gospel and soul touches and, yes, a country twang. It's like if... Pink Floyd were producing a Beyonce album. This is a really good sound for her, she should do more of this instead of the on-the-nose cowgirl dressup of stuff like Texas Hold 'Em.

R50 that doesn’t sound like rock…

Seriously, the album is amazing. Love “Bodyguard”!!!!

I listened to Jolene. Awful. D- at best. She sounds like a wannabee. Trying so hard yet emotionless at the same time. Poor imitation of country. Vomit worthy.

Queen of the ghetto. No, thank you..

Beyoncé isn’t from the ghetto babes. She grew up in an upper middle class area. 😊

She married Jay-Z - she's ghetto.

He’s filthy rich.

R51 - if you can't hear the very obvious influence of 70s psychedelic and progressive rock on that track simply because there happens to be a Black woman singing...that might be a 'you' problem.

If she wanted to remake "Jolene," she should have remade it.

She didn't remake it, she rewrote it. 80% new lyrics, vastly inferior.

All about threatening the woman coming for her man. Serving what the audience demands.

Dolly's lyrics are more emotionally honest. Both men and women feel vulnerable when someone threatens to take away their partner. No room for vulnerability in this juggernaut. Just give people what will get approval on social media.

Hey Bey! Congrats on the album, it’s great. Listen, been trying to reach you and Jay for a couple days now, but your people say you can’t be reached? Really, really need to talk to you. See this thing has happened and…….

Is that her real hair, it certainly looks very realistic. Hopefully the wig troll will visit this thread to tell us what’s going on there.

[quote]If she wanted to remake "Jolene," she should have remade it.

Beyonce can't write.

Reviews is reparations!

R59 she can’t rewrite the lyrics without Dolly’s approval. Dolly not only approved and recorded an intro for the song. NEXT.

A big yawn from the overexposed monolith

I love every song I'm listening to, but her voice is the weak link. It's like she's a supporting singer to the production. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing.

I can't be said enough, trash!

It**

I’m sick to death of her as my baseline. After 24 hrs of relentless accolades I’m ready to vomit.

Tacky followers

r66 I feel exactly the same. The production and arrangements sound good. But Beyonce vocally just doesn't do it for me.

I've said it a million times here, her voice lacks soul and grit, even in her 40s. Harmony fills out that void her voice leaves at times. I like this song the most (probably because of the harmony throughout).

Little Esther Phillips had a voice.

I despise both Beyonce and country music. Tired of hearing about this mediocre bitch. She should take Lizzo"s lead and just quit.

Bodyguard has a wonderful Fleetwood Mac type of country-influenced 70s rock swagger. Breezy, but confident.

I like the album and some of the songs a really good. Her song with Miley is great and I love Bodyguard

I would love to see Beyonce and Jon Batiste figure out how to perform Ameriican Requiem live somewhere. It's incredible, but I imagine it would require a ton of work to adapt for live performance. But, I bet Batiste could figure it out.

[quote]This is the moment yall, where we dismantle the genre machine. I was happy to produce and write for AMERIICAN REQUIEM, along with Beyoncé and Dion. When I catch inspiration, the words and chords pour out of me. What an honor to then see how brilliantly Beyoncé made them her own and THEN further enhanced the lyrical statement, synthesizing it into the larger body of work. After the harrowing vocal prelude that happens to start Cowboy Carter, you get to hear these words that read like a proclaimation. "Do you hear me or do you fear me?" or better yet in our Louisiana vernacular "Looka dere, Looka dere"

[quote]Prior to this, Dion and I had been on a creative journey, having conversations about the state of music and where we could take it. We'd been having these conversations for years but something about recent times has felt ripe with the power of actualization. When I picked up my guitar and notebook to write this song I put my trust in God to liberate my creative mind, as I always do when channeling inspiration.

[quote]Quincy Jones told me, as he also wrote in his foreword to my WE ARE album, "it's up to you to de categorize American music!!" which is what Duke Ellington told him. I really believe that is our generation's role, led by a few artists willing to take this leap.

[quote]@beyonce, so thrilled to contribute to your brilliant album, a work of such unimaginable impact and artistic firepower by a once in a generation artist. So glad that we finally got to collaborate with each other at this time.

[quote]Producing and writing for AMERIICAN REQUIEM was an example of extraordinary alignment—when many leading artists see a similar vision at the same time, that's when you know a major shift is happening. A new era, long time coming. Let's liberate ourselves from genre and break the barriers that marginalize who we are and the art that we create. Grateful and impressed by my brother @dixson and the other collaborators who helped make this album opening statement possible.

I guess the silver lining for me because I don't really care for this album at all is that it'll hopefully shine a light on the black women in country music who actually deserve the attention.

R78 - you don't have to hope. It already has had that effect...

R50: the song has shades of Prince and Buffalo Springfield’s “For What it’s Worth.”

After a day, I have to say they'd be crazy not to release "II Most Wanted" with Miley Cirus as the next single. That's a country hit if ever I heard one.

My favorite three tracks are probably:

Bodyguard

Daughter

II Most Wanted

Is 30 tracks the new normal? Dolly's "Rockstar" album had 30 tracks, and so does this (well, close enough).

I remember back in the days of LPs when you were lucky to get 8-10 new songs from your favorite artist or band when a new album came out. Now it's 30?!?

Of course a lot of the tracks on this (unlike Rockstar) are "filler"... sub-one-minute little interstitials and things. I've never been a fan of those. Either commit to a whole song or leave it off.

Is OP her publicist?

It's a bit easier to do a zillion songs when you have a team of people that do everything for you. You just show up and sing with your boring voice. Your voice doesn't even have to show emotion. And everyone bows down and kisses your ass.

R85 ZzzzzZzzzzzz please already.

R5 I’m here for it, Bey is standing up for the L in LGB, particularly lipstick lesbians. Love her.

[quote] I’m here for it, Bey is standing up for the L in LGB, particularly lipstick lesbians. Love her.—TeacakeRises

Shut the fuck up, crack whore.

Has the New York Times called her a Godess yet for the 57th time based on this album? Have we been told we are unworthy of her?

R85 Please she is always involved in the creative process. You are so lame. And no one does this to non black or non female artists. If a male, even when people realize they aren’t great singers like Bob Dylan or Justin Timberlake, no one accuses them of merely being a puppet. And yes I know Bob Dylan is a profound songwriter but whenever blacks or females who aren’t traditionally thought of as songwriters idiots like you just claim this “but they didn’t nothing” creative argument. Your bias is so apparent.

R88 #MentalHealth

Did JZ POZ her? Allegedly. Rumor.

R92 Just because you decided to make that up doesn’t make it a rumor. It just makes it something you just decided to make up.

JayZ would have to fuck her first. And we've all seen her pillow pregnancies.

[quote] something you just decided to make up.—TeacakeRises

And you would know all about making shit up, whitey,

R95 bruh I don’t what your deal is. You noticed I even stopped refuting you. I just post #MentalHealth because you are obviously damaged. But it’s ok, you can see a professional and get help. No snark. Why the fuck would I be making up all this time that I am black. And I have never backed down from it. It’s so crazy. You are crazy. And the fact that site continues to allow you to do it speaks volumes. But I understand I guess they can’t self regulate to heat degree. I just don’t know what makes u think I’m not black. You’re gay so you can’t be that narrow minded. Are you the poster that think I’m defacto? Like what’s gives? For real, what is your damage?

[quote]I’m still a Creole Banjee Bitch from Louisiana

I'm old. Please, what does "banjee" mean?

Self regulate to that* degree

I don’t know what the big deal is. An acoustic guitar opening every song does not a great country song make.

[quote] Are you the poster that think I’m defacto?

No, and this is what you're delusional mind isn't getting. There isn't just one person on here who thinks you're full of shit. There are MANY who think so and post it. So ask yourself, hon, why so many people think you're a big, fat liar.

Because you are.

I liked the album mostly. It doesn’t have a bunch of filler like the crazed hater all over the thread claims. Some songs were better than others like on every album, but no filler. It was great.

R100 Bitch I don’t give a fuck. There are lots of posters, as well as lurkers here and you don’t know them all or even most of them. You are a fucking joke. I want to kind of stopped disrespecting you though because you are mentally ill. Listen just get some help. Real talk. I have friends who come to this site and never post at all.

[quote] I'm old. Please, what does "banjee" mean?

"Banjee" is old, too. It is believed to have originated in the NYC 80s Ballroom scene but I think it could have been around longer. Basically it means a young woman with a tough, urban swagger. RuPaul gave a shoutout to "banjee girl(s)" in one of his early 90s hits ("Back To My Roots")

r75 I like the music but some of her vocals don't sound right to me. Like the way she says "honey, honey" almost ruins the song. Also during the last 30 seconds, when she starts moaning like a cat in heat, is quite awful.

I DONT LIKE IT!

I DONT LIKE IT!

I DONT LIJE IT!!

R104 record yourself singing it…

Listened to Miley duet which was good but to me Miley was the star. Also enjoyed Blackbird which supposedly highlighted black country artists. They barely have a presence on the song. Jolene is kind of a mess.

Yassss Kweens are desperately playing this over and over, shaking like chihuahuas as they drink their iced coffee, trying to force themselves to like this album.

R107 you’re just a mess. A hater. A broke hater. A broke hater living off his family.

R109 I figured that was your biography

R107 I don’t like new Jolene either. I get that she is trying to turn it on its head but it doesn’t work and her don’t like her vocal performance on it either. She can never sound bad but the performance doesn’t work. It’s the worst track on the album.

I haven't heard a Beyoncé song in over 10 years and I don't plan to listen to any of these.

R108 you sure do know a lot of yass kweens for someone who despises them. You be tricking don’t you 😂

R113 gots ta suplement dat guvmint cheez

Let’s play a game, what is your first letter guess…

The phrase is:

Teacake is a ______

R114 what in the outdated racist stereotype hell. If you gon talk that racist shit Imma need you to be a lil more up to date and up to speed. Least say how we using EBT cards to buy lobster at the grocery store then hopping in our Lexuses. Lawd Imma help you learn how to roast.

Skip.

She needs to learn that less is more. There were some good songs on the album but it was mostly filler. The album went wayyy too long.

I feel the same way about all her other albums. Way too many songs that are all over the place. There’s no cohesiveness.

Also, I thought the Jolene cover was tacky. I’m also tired of hearing about her toxic marriage to Jay. I think it’s all a publicity stunt and they are more like business partners than romantic partners, but if your marriage is really that bad then a get divorce already!

R116 boi, youiz gettin on ma last nerve and I’m a strong black woman!

Listened to Jolene. Her voice is great but I don’t think she understood the lyrics.

There is literally zero emotion in her voice.

A good singer tells a story.

R120 that’s the problem with her. Nice voice but an empty vessel

[quote] And no one does this to non black or non female artists.

Britney, Katy Perry to name 2, were products of huge teams. Katy can’t even sing or dance, but she has creative stage sets that someone dreamed up. Britney can barely write a comprehensive sentence let alone write a song.

Sounds like a goat trying to sing like a human

[quote] There is literally zero emotion in her voice.

That's her new vocal image -- imperious automaton.

She put out a video album a few years ago. It looked like it cost many millions and was full of interesting visuals of many genres. But so many different ideas and genres diluted the whole thing. It kind of turned into a forgettable mess.

She’s so manufactured she needs a bar code.

This is a grab for the Album of the Year. She and Jay Z don’t give a shit about country music; he’s determined to get that Grammy or else and has pulled out all the stops. Once she wins that, he will beat his chest and tell the other oppressed millionaire rappers that “we did it, y’all”, and they will finally cement their place as King and Queen.

This song is stuck in my head

What a yeeeeees kaweeeen r127

Wouldn’t it be Levi jeans or just Levi’s?

I want to be your Levi jeans

I want to be your Levi’s

^^Stupid fucker

I have a few questions Is Dolly actually singing on the hangman part of Tyrant? I’m sure I can hear her. Is the new remix of Texas Hold ‘Em including a famous song, is the bit that goes Pony Up a sample?

My favourite song is bodyguard, sounds really 70s, love it.

[quote] Beyoncé’s “Cowboy Carter” is the album of the year, EASILY

If true that only speaks to how lame 21st century music has become.

Garbage No-Talent with an IQ of 87.

I'm here for the meltdown that will ensue if problematic white woman Lana Del Rey - a superior songwriting talent and long overdue for a Grammy - snatches Album of the Year with her country album "Lasso" that's releasing in September.

Lmao Lana has yet to win a single Grammy. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

The irony that r135 seems fine with Lana making a country album but not Houston born and raised Bey. Hmmm

Jolene is an amazing song. My favorite cover versions are the whole subgenre of Eldritch Horror Jolene, e. g...

[quote] OP is responsible for 70% of the comments in this thread. FF for posting about this ghetto single-digit IQ bitch.

I'm just wondering when Beybot/Janbot will start going on a shooting rampage, tracking down everyone on DL who posts any negative comment about them.

Her ugly husband runs the show. Of course she and her crap album will win some award that has turned into a total joke.

Some of yall don’t realize how many similarities r&b and country music share. Thematically and song structure. This isn’t a country song but could easily be if you change the instrumentation.

It's weird all of you racist misogynists desperately trying to convince yourself that this is a bad album and that she's not talented. It's sad, really.

This is a fantastic album, if a little over-indulgent. If it's not your cup of tea, that's fine, move on, but this glee you assholes get from tearing down a strong, confident, talented, successful Black Woman is perverse.

R141 both originated from black singers

Beyoncé has done country songs before. And aesthetically she used to rock cowboy hats and boots in the late 90s. While she was growing up her dad listened to country music. How the fuck can someone say she doesn’t give a shit about country music. That’s just false.

Who were the black singers who originated country music, r143?

R141, both country and R&B follow the traditional popular song structure, which has a European origin. It's not racist to say that.

That song (Second Nature) is an Isley Brothers' song that was rejigged a bit by the anonymous composers who write most of Beyonce's songs.

Beyonce was probably inspired to do a country album by Lil Nas X.

R145 no. Europeans didn’t invent any of it. Music comes from Africa. Enough with your shit. Everyone is over it.

Flop era, I’m afraid.

More #1s.

R145 I know it’s an Isley Brothers sample. I’m not quite sure what you mean by anonymous composers. Most composers of pop music outside A list producers are not known by the general public. They are certainly getting credit in line notes and royalties. The music and simple and the lyrics are whole original. As everything comes full circle the Queen actually collaborated with the Isley Bros to remake their original. I think the instrumentation is done over but those are Ron Isley’s original vocals from the 70s.

You didn't know shit, Teafake.

[quote] Who were the black singers who originated country music,

Black music absolutely influenced country but black people did not invent country. That's just BS.

The traditional verse-chorus-versen song structure comes from Africa, r147? Can you give any examples of such songs from Africa pre-20th century? Interesting to know that the Scotch-Irish were from Africa.

How many albums have you actually listened to this year?

"Most composers of pop music outside A list producers are not known by the general public." - Which is why so much contemporary pop music is complete shit, r150.

It's not negating black musicians' impact to say that black musicians did not invent every form of American popular music, r155.

Anyhow, here's something that will blow your mind, and it's a million times better than anything being produced today.

By the same token, r156, people will proclaim an album they have not listened to a work of genius if it has Beyonce's name attached to it.

Ameriican Requiem is so good. Wish she had a couple more tracks that bold and ambitious on the album.

I’m surprised she’s never faced any real backlash for her chronic plagiarism.

R161, because that would be racist, god!!!

R16, well, me.

I was rolling my eyes at OP’s proclamation, but then I sat down and listened to it all and it’s a damn good album. Beyonce put in the work to really making something beautiful. Yes, is pulls form loads of 60s acts but it’s like a great play or movie remake. It built upon what’s been done.

Easily her best album.

R161 - I think you need access to a dictionary

R164 here again, I also want to note that it’s nice when music is celebrated. This album has so much going for it from a production standpoint, very similar to Renaissance which had a mountain of talented producers and writers thrown into it for a consistently interesting album. Cowboy Carter maintains a top tier production that keeps it interesting when broken down.

I know folks will want to bash Beyonce for hiring a large team on her work, but you know what, as a listener of any artists, I just want god music. I appreciate the T-Swifts that can write their own songs, but pop stars have never been required to be writers or producers. Beyonce seems very involved in this and all of her albums since she fired her dad as her manage.

Good* music.

Tell me how you define plagiarism and I’ll show you a hundred examples of her willfulness.

Song, maybe. Album? No way. The top machine is not behind her anymore.