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Lana Turner?

What was her deal? Personality disorder? Nymphomaniac? So many terrible decisions. So many marriages. She always came off totally kind and normal in interviews. Her behavior behind-the-scenes, however, say otherwise. She was a massive drunk to boot. What was wrong with her? It’s amazing she kept her career after so much scandal.

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by Anonymousreply 545April 4, 2024 4:06 PM

As a massive drunk myself, I’m flattered.

by Anonymousreply 1March 23, 2024 4:42 AM

Id love Hollywood to give a biopic of her life the silver screen treatment.Nexy year she has been dead thirty years.

by Anonymousreply 2March 23, 2024 4:44 AM

Lana and her galpal, Ava, were both boozy sluts. Lana, however, could keep it together, whereas Ava could be a mean, fall-down drunk.

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by Anonymousreply 3March 23, 2024 4:50 AM

It is weird that she hasn’t had a biopic. Her life was batshit insane.

by Anonymousreply 4March 24, 2024 1:34 AM

I'm also a size queen, so Lana is my Goddess.

by Anonymousreply 5March 24, 2024 1:36 AM

Considering her lack of talent, bad decision-making and troublesome personal life, she had a far longer career, over 25 years, than most actresses of Golden Age Hollywood, beginning with her debut in 1937 and onwards well into the 1960s. 4 decades of stardom. How many American Actresses besides Crawford, Davis and K Hepburn could compare? And she was a true sex symbol unlike those other three ladies, making the longevity even more impressive.

Lana was a true Hollywood studio product, was taken care of and mostly told what to do by MGM and usually took the advice to heart. She also, unlike Ava Gardner and others of her ilk, was dependable and genuinely liked to work.

by Anonymousreply 6March 24, 2024 1:45 AM

r6 Did she not work into the 1970s? I do recall that she didnt wish to be seen by the public in her final years.

by Anonymousreply 7March 24, 2024 3:28 AM

She came back for the Falcon Crest.

by Anonymousreply 8March 24, 2024 3:40 AM

r7, you're right. Lana actually worked well into the 1980s on TV in Falcon Crest and The Love Boat.

by Anonymousreply 9March 24, 2024 3:42 AM

And it seems her daughter loved her very much which is astonishing. Angela Lansbury thought she should get the lead in The Three Musketeers and went to Louis B to plead for the role. Louis B was not moved.

Angela didn't seem to get that though she was a very fine actress and Lana didn't have a fraction of her talent Lana was a movie star. Angela never was. Lana got people to fill the big movie palaces. Angela just got to fill out a cast. She did get to star on TV and Broadway. But a true star is a movie star. Lana in Postman is a star for the ages. Angela in Mame and Sweeney Todd is just a star for theater geeks.

by Anonymousreply 10March 24, 2024 3:58 AM

Lana Turner's daughter was there when Lana stabbed her gangster lover, later came out as lesbian. She lived in a lovely Victorian house in San Francisco with her lover for many years and where her mother often came for visits.

In her later years Lana had exciting handsome gay PR man as a friend and escort when she went out on the town in San Francisco, where I spent my early life.

I was a young teen at the time and he was a friend to me and two others who were on the periphery of that world. We helped out a local celebrity socialite and her secretary (a younger widowed socialite) with her fan correspondence at their homes and met Mr. Sinclair through them. He invited us to his North Beach apartment to swim in the pool, taking us to lunch in North Beach and once to Clown Alley on Lombard for burgers. He was very kind to us and totally above board. He spoke fondly to us about his lady friends, including Lana Turner. We'd see him in the society columns from time to time, squiring glamourous ladies around town. I had enormous respect for that tanned and handsome man. He was about 32 when we knew him.

In his obituary, linked here, it says, "He once commented to a society reporter "If you're a bachelor, you don't have to grow up."" Now I understand why he was so nice to us truly gawky, nerdy teens. He never grew up. Great guy and a lovely link to an exciting world.

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by Anonymousreply 11March 24, 2024 4:07 AM

r11 Wasnt it speculated or claimed that Lanas daughter Cheryl was the one who stabbed the gangster and she was trying to keep her daughter out of trouble by taking the blame?

by Anonymousreply 12March 24, 2024 4:10 AM

Actually, I think it was Cheryl who did stab him. I'll look for a story online.

by Anonymousreply 13March 24, 2024 4:16 AM

You're right, R12. Cheryl stabbed him. I totally forgot that. She overheard a violent argument and came to the aid of her mother.

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by Anonymousreply 14March 24, 2024 4:17 AM

Lana was a movie star, she did movie star acting.

by Anonymousreply 15March 24, 2024 4:22 AM

I love Lana. Her life story is indeed crazy. As an actress, she was very much an MGM product that was packaged and sold—not a great thespian, but she delivered what was necessary and she does (despite what some DLers would say) have some good performances in her career. She was beautiful on camera. That staircase descent in "Ziegfeld Girl" is legendary.

Talent aside, she was known to be very professional and had a healthy work ethic unlike some of her peers. I once read a quote from a news article profiling Lana in her later career, when she was in her sixties and doing unglamorous regional theater performances. A stagehand told the paper that she was the "hardest working broad" he'd ever seen. It made me respect her a bit more.

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by Anonymousreply 16March 24, 2024 4:37 AM

Aubrey Plaza is a dirty little fuck toy 🤤

by Anonymousreply 17March 24, 2024 4:40 AM

r13 r14 Cheers good find! Knew I had heard it somewhere!

by Anonymousreply 18March 24, 2024 4:41 AM

[quote] she had a far longer career, over 25 years, than most actresses of Golden Age Hollywood, beginning with her debut in 1937 and onwards well into the 1960s. 4 decades of stardom. How many American Actresses besides Crawford, Davis and K Hepburn could compare?

Lana didn't really become a star until the '40s.

A few others who had long careers: Ingrid Bergman, Jane Wyman, Olivia de Havilland, Marlene Dietrich, Susan Hayward, Lauren Bacall.

by Anonymousreply 19March 24, 2024 4:53 AM

And Barbara Stanwyck

by Anonymousreply 20March 24, 2024 4:56 AM

And Lucille Ball

by Anonymousreply 21March 24, 2024 4:57 AM

Judy Garland had a career of over 30 years.

by Anonymousreply 22March 24, 2024 4:59 AM

And Elizabeth Taylor

by Anonymousreply 23March 24, 2024 5:01 AM

Rosalind Russell

by Anonymousreply 24March 24, 2024 5:04 AM

Her daughter Cheryl is/was a very pretty woman—a statuesque, glamorous, very femme lesbian. Lana, despite being a devout Catholic, never turned her back on her and was accepting of it, even when Cheryl told her parents at 13(!) years old.

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by Anonymousreply 25March 24, 2024 5:05 AM

Somebody posted excerpts from the book that her gay male companion wrote. Maybe the same guy as R11? It was very entertaining. She was old school batshit in the best sense of the word.

by Anonymousreply 26March 24, 2024 5:09 AM

Lana had more children pulled out of than a burning orphanage. I wouldn't call her devout.

by Anonymousreply 27March 24, 2024 5:10 AM

Wow R25 she is stunning.

by Anonymousreply 28March 24, 2024 5:16 AM

I remember the story of her being fired from Falcon Crest because (a) she was unprofessional, not dependable and always late for filming, and (b) because Jane Wyman wanted her gone for 'not being a lady'. Not sure how to reconcile these stories with the statements upthread that she was reliable, a hard worker and a good catholic. Will need to read up on her on Wikipedia.

by Anonymousreply 29March 24, 2024 5:20 AM

She was so beautiful, though.

by Anonymousreply 30March 24, 2024 5:20 AM

She was nuts.

by Anonymousreply 31March 24, 2024 5:21 AM

[quote]Angela just got to fill out a cast.

But Lana filled out a sweater.

by Anonymousreply 32March 24, 2024 5:22 AM

The story told in court and believed by the jury was that Cheryl had killed Johnny Stompanato defending her mother, but I don't think many are convinced of that. It seems like a sympathy ruse which kept Lana out of trouble as the teen's tale created another trauma victim (not counting Stompanato, of course).

I'd be very surprised if anyone other than Lana killed Johnny.

by Anonymousreply 33March 24, 2024 5:22 AM

TCM played one of those "Word of Mouth" commentaries that Ricardo Montalban did about Lana. He had nothing but praise for her.

by Anonymousreply 34March 24, 2024 5:22 AM

Lana lost her V to business attorney, Greg Bautzer, at the age of 17. He was 27 or so. He once took the young starlet to Joan Crawford's house for a dinner party, and as they made their way to the projection room to watch one of Crawford's films, Lana took a seat next to Bautzer and cuddled with him. Crawford looked on with scorn. Afterwards, Joan summoned Lana back to her house and told the young tart that Bautzer did not love her and didn't have the heart to tell her. She advised that Lana end the relationship because he was really in love with her (Joan). Lana immediately broke up with Bautzer and took considerable glee in landing leading lady roles (and leading men!) that Crawford would've gotten had she still been popular.

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by Anonymousreply 35March 24, 2024 5:26 AM

r29 The rumour I heard was Jane Wyman wanted her fired because years before Lana had an affair with the husband or boyfriend of Janes good friend Barbara Stanwyck. It was loyalty if you like to her old pal.

by Anonymousreply 36March 24, 2024 5:33 AM

I never doubted Cheryl killed Stompanato. Her story never varied in the slightest. And who would put their young daughter through that, if she wasn't the one to do it? Besides I don't think Lana would have killed him. Other than the question of why she would have a kitchen knife in her bedroom (as opposed to Cheryl having gotten it from the kitchen when she heard Johnny screaming threats at Lana), I just don't think Lana would have killed anyone. And she could have gotten out of that relationship so many other ways. She wouldn't resort to murder. It makes more sense that her young teenage daughter would do something impulsive and not think of the consequences.

by Anonymousreply 37March 24, 2024 5:34 AM

You BITCH!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 38March 24, 2024 5:49 AM

The only time Angela Channing ever said the B word was to Jacqueline Perault once and not again in nine seasons.

by Anonymousreply 39March 24, 2024 6:16 AM
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by Anonymousreply 40March 24, 2024 6:24 AM

R40 I wondered at the time why they couldn't get a better looking girl who really could have passed for Lana Turner.

by Anonymousreply 41March 24, 2024 6:30 AM

"I never cared for her."

by Anonymousreply 42March 24, 2024 6:31 AM

If you throw a drink in a cop's face can't you get arrested for that?

by Anonymousreply 43March 24, 2024 7:55 AM

Lana said on Donahue that some Hollywood wife flew to the set because she was afraid Lana was having an affair with her husband on the set. The plane crashed. It might have been Clark Gable. Not sure.

Lana was everywhere with her memoir in the 80s. She became a devout Christian nut in her later years.

by Anonymousreply 44March 24, 2024 8:01 AM

The documentary, Lana Turner, A Daughter's Memoir - narrated by Robert Wagner - is very good. It's on one of the Lana Tuner movie DVDs.

by Anonymousreply 45March 24, 2024 8:24 AM

Back in the day Lana did dinner theater. Dinner theater had a stigma attached but it really wasn't bad, and you could see those big names from the previous era like Van Johnson, Don Ameche, Eve Arden, Jane Russell, Cyd Charisse, etc.

by Anonymousreply 46March 24, 2024 8:32 AM

Lana Turner was living the life every gay man on here could only dream of. Getting fucked legless by studs.

by Anonymousreply 47March 24, 2024 8:36 AM

Every bottom on here, you mean.

by Anonymousreply 48March 24, 2024 8:38 AM

Yes, Carole Lombard supposedly was on a war bond tour in 1941 but impulsively boarded a flight back to Hollywood when she heard that Lana was fucking her husband Clark Gable on the set of MGM's HONKY TONK. Tragically, Carole's plane crashed and she was killed.

by Anonymousreply 49March 24, 2024 1:46 PM

"supposedly" should have been inserted between the words "she" and "heard" in my post.

Thank you. Carole wasn't "supposedly" on a war bond tour.

by Anonymousreply 50March 24, 2024 1:49 PM

I know the obvious reasons, but how did she let herself get into a public relationship with Johnny Stompanato. The name alone screams 2 AM "You up?" text. I'm surprised the studio allowed it.

by Anonymousreply 51March 24, 2024 2:01 PM

She was a drunk who didn't know her lines when she was on my show so I had them get rid of her.

by Anonymousreply 52March 24, 2024 2:02 PM

Lana Turner was an up and coming starlet in the late '30s, when she already being groomed for stardom by Metro. Her stardom was cemented in 1941, with this as one of three big movies LT starred in. Here's my look at Lana as a "Ziegfeld Girl."

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by Anonymousreply 53March 24, 2024 2:20 PM

R49, the movie Gable and Turner were filming at the time of Lombard's death was "Somewhere I'll Find You."

by Anonymousreply 54March 24, 2024 2:21 PM

R53 A lovely picture, especially of Judy.

by Anonymousreply 55March 24, 2024 2:23 PM

As I write in my review, look at the three stars of "Ziegfeld Girl," then think of how many husbands they collectively had. Not to mention scandals! Metro was the big enabler studio, with those stars, along with Mickey, Liz, Joan, and Van Johnson's fake marriage to his best friend's wife! As far as Lana was concerned, she had cleaned up her act by the time she did "Falcon Crest." The rumors I always heard was Jane was sick of Lana acting like she was still at Metro... limos to go to the loo, etc.

by Anonymousreply 56March 24, 2024 2:24 PM

Here's Lana Turner promoting her memoir and Falcon Crest on Donahue. Phil is his usual bull in the china shop self. And Lana is much like Joan Crawford in TV interviews, play acting different sides of her persona. All ladylike one moment, girly the next, naughty the next after that! Love how she tries to convince everyone she was only friends with "Mr. Gable!" Or why she really wasn't an alcoholic! You can't help not liking Lana, but she was in LaLa Land, like many of the film greats who were pampered and enabled...

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by Anonymousreply 57March 24, 2024 2:31 PM

[quote] like many of the film greats who were pampered

Let's leave June Allyson out of this.

by Anonymousreply 58March 24, 2024 2:33 PM

According to Lee Server's excellent biography of Ava Gardner, Turner and Garner got their kicks going off on a drinking binges far away from LA, entering some dive bar, and picking up customers who couldn't believe they were partying and fucking Turner and Gardner.

I'm not claiming they invented "Mr. Right Now", but they may have perfected it.

by Anonymousreply 59March 24, 2024 2:37 PM

Lana screen tested for Scarlett O’Hara.

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by Anonymousreply 60March 24, 2024 2:54 PM

I’ve read that there was a lot of bitterness on Judy Garland’s part where Lana was concerned (mainly because Lana went off an married Artie Shaw) but it still seems the two remained close long term. I know they lived next door to each other and that Liza and Cheryl were childhood friends.

by Anonymousreply 61March 24, 2024 3:13 PM

As to studio interference concerning Lana's relationship with Stompanato, wasn't that relationship when she was no longer attached to MGM or any other studio?

by Anonymousreply 62March 24, 2024 3:16 PM

Why do you suppose Lana never became a popular name for baby girls in the US?

by Anonymousreply 63March 24, 2024 3:17 PM

She has a scene with Kevin Spacey.

by Anonymousreply 64March 24, 2024 3:18 PM

R62 you’re correct, MGM dropped her in 1956 and she started dating Stompanato a couple years later.

by Anonymousreply 65March 24, 2024 3:21 PM

Lana wasn't much of an actress, but she definitely had the "it" factor in spades.

by Anonymousreply 66March 24, 2024 3:32 PM

A truly beautiful woman. It’s no wonder so many men wanted to fuck her. I think she was far prettier than Marilyn.

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by Anonymousreply 67March 24, 2024 3:35 PM

I think this is the Montalban piece R34 is referring to. By his account, she was professional, respectful of her fellow actors, and didn’t try to steal the scene. It seems he adored her.

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by Anonymousreply 68March 24, 2024 3:38 PM

Lana was not a lady!

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by Anonymousreply 69March 24, 2024 3:43 PM

R4 At one time, a movie called "Stompanato" was in pre-production with Catherine Zeta Jones set to play Lana and Keanu Reeves set to play Johnny Stompanato, but it died on the vine.

Now Catherine and Keanu are way too old to play those characters, and few moviegoers today would even know who Lana Turner and Johnny Stompanato were.

by Anonymousreply 70March 24, 2024 3:54 PM

June Allyson was one of Hollywood's most "dependable" actresses, I agree! As for Lana, she was for the most part, professional and unpretentious, though she could be a bit of a diva post-studio system. Some of her lesser-known films are her most appealing, playing normal women instead of bombshells, like "Cass Timberlane" and "A Life of Her Own." Not classics, but interesting, and she's good in them.

by Anonymousreply 71March 24, 2024 3:58 PM

Lana's leading man in "Latin Lovers" was supposed to be her current squeeze, Fernando Lamas, after their successful pairing in "The Merry Widow." But Lamas flew into a jealous rage after Lana danced with Lex Barker at a party, and beat her black and blue, forcing her to cancel all public engagements until all the bruises had healed. An enraged Louis B. Mayer fired Lamas and canceled his contract.

In Lamas' place stepped Ricardo Montalban, who, by Lana's own account was a true gentleman, who was entirely devoted to his wife, Georgiana.

by Anonymousreply 72March 24, 2024 4:03 PM

The booze, sun and cigarettes did a number on her aging wise.

by Anonymousreply 73March 24, 2024 4:12 PM

Until one night I saw the light

And heard salvation's call

Ta da da da da da da da da da...

I'm so glad I didn't hear it

Until I did it all

by Anonymousreply 74March 24, 2024 4:28 PM

Wasn't Ricardo's wife Georgiana Loretta Young's sister?

by Anonymousreply 75March 24, 2024 4:28 PM

[quote]and beat her black and blue

Did all over her men, beat her up?

by Anonymousreply 76March 24, 2024 4:30 PM

Keanu, r70???

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by Anonymousreply 77March 24, 2024 4:31 PM

There was a very funny anecdote about Lana DL fave Susie Lee shared in her wonderful old Hollywood threads.

An older woman fan approached Lana at a Hollywood premiere in the 60s and told her how gorgeous she was back in the day. Lana replied: "Oh yeah, all that crap they made me wear back then."

by Anonymousreply 78March 24, 2024 4:33 PM

The girl was probably used to mommy's knock-down, drag-out fights, followed by passionate making-up.

Lana would have done time, lost her career, etc. They hung the rap on the girl. She probably turned to lesbianism in reform school (especially after being raped by Lex Barker).

by Anonymousreply 79March 24, 2024 4:37 PM

[quote] Now Catherine and Keanu are way too old to play those characters

I'm 27 years old, young enough to play that role. Get your facts right!

by Anonymousreply 80March 24, 2024 4:37 PM

My greatest generation dad thought she was a goddess, and he never talked about liking anybody, male or female. Curious, I watched an interview with her in the 80s and boy, did she come off as a dim bulb.

At one point she 'corrected' the rumors about her drinking by explaining that she was never an alcoholic, just had a glass of wine and sipped it all day long. "I was a sipper" she said. Got a kick out of that. Me too doll, I'm a big sipper.

When her daughter came out to her Lana said, "is it my fault?" which I guess at the time would be considered an enlightened attitude.

by Anonymousreply 81March 24, 2024 4:46 PM

Lana used to ride around Hollywood on an elephant.

Lana may have been a home-wrecking whore, but she didn't allow any hanky panky in Peyton Place. She never allowed her daughter to hang around with that hussy Betty Anderson.

by Anonymousreply 82March 24, 2024 4:49 PM

[quote]When her daughter came out to her Lana said, "is it my fault?" which I guess at the time would be considered an enlightened attitude.

Lana may have thought, how can someone go through life without wanting cock?

by Anonymousreply 83March 24, 2024 4:49 PM

"Johnny Stompanato" is the greatest name for a hood ever!

by Anonymousreply 84March 24, 2024 4:51 PM

I remember hearing Robert Osborne tell a story about Cheryl Crane coming to an afternoon party of some kind dressed all in leather, with a girlfriend, and Judy Garland saying to someone, "Lana isn't a good mother," which he found amusing coming from Judy.

by Anonymousreply 85March 24, 2024 4:52 PM

She stole Joan Crawford's career when Joan aged out of certain roles. Joan most certainly would have been cast in Peyton Place, Imitation of Life and Madame X just a few years earlier, but now those roles were going to Lana. I'm sure Joan resented her to no end.

by Anonymousreply 86March 24, 2024 4:55 PM

She was a Trekkie!

by Anonymousreply 87March 24, 2024 4:57 PM

My favorite Lana period is the Imitation of Life - Madame X era. Lots of those films are like glamour-comfort food to me. Portrait in Black, Love Has Many Faces, etc. The Ross Hunter touch. She actually is quite good in Madame X

by Anonymousreply 88March 24, 2024 4:57 PM

They wanted Lucy to stab Johnny Stompanato but Gary talked her out of it.

by Anonymousreply 89March 24, 2024 5:00 PM

Anyone who loved big dick as much as Lana is fine by me.

by Anonymousreply 90March 24, 2024 5:01 PM

Lana was excellent in Madame X. Truly her best performance!

by Anonymousreply 91March 24, 2024 5:02 PM

I thought she was great in Madame X (which otherwise wasn't great), but I always think of the fingernails. In the end, when she was a decrepit old-before-her-time hag, she still had beautifully manicured nails with beige polish on them. I didn't get how they didn't notice that mistake.

by Anonymousreply 92March 24, 2024 5:05 PM

I always thought Lana should’ve been included in the AFI Top 50 Actors/Actresses list. I thought she should’ve had the overrated Loretta Young spot.

by Anonymousreply 93March 24, 2024 5:08 PM

Peyton Place is my favorite Lana performance. In the 70s she turned to theatre and did summer tours of Bell, Book and Candle and Forty Carats among others. She always seemed like the kind of broad the crew loved.

by Anonymousreply 94March 24, 2024 5:17 PM

I don't think Lana liked "big" dick so much as very good looking men (most of the time). She had a weakness for the worst ones. She was strangely naive. Her 2nd husband Stephen Crane told her his family was in the tobacco business back east. She believed him. Much later he took her home and she saw that the family business was a cigar store in Crawfordsville, Indiana. When they first married, he didn't tell her he already had a wife he wasn't divorced from.

"He mentioned nonchalantly that he was in the tobacco business, in a way that suggested that any kind of business bored him. Certainly it seemed that he had no money worries. We chatted for hours, and by the time he took me home, I was ready to fall in love. With my weakness for a certain kind of good looks, coupled with witty charm, I took him at face value. In no time we were a pair. Only three weeks later he asked me to marry him."

The marriage was annulled, but they remarried when Lana found out she was pregnant (with Cheryl). After his divorce from Lana, he was also married to (among others) actress Martine Carroll.

Crane later became very successful as a restauranteur, owning The Luau, and the chain of Kon-Tiki restaurants in big hotels across the country. Cheryl worked for him.

Lana also liked swing music and had a weakness for big band leaders and musicians. She hosted parties for bands bands like Tommy Dorsey's.

by Anonymousreply 95March 24, 2024 5:17 PM

* Martine Carol

by Anonymousreply 96March 24, 2024 5:18 PM

That shocking night in 1958

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by Anonymousreply 97March 24, 2024 5:21 PM

Lex put gals in the hospital with his dick. Knowing that Lana bagged that and could handle it makes me respect her.

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by Anonymousreply 99March 24, 2024 5:26 PM

Yeah, he also repeatedly raped her little girl.

by Anonymousreply 100March 24, 2024 5:29 PM

R73 the cigarettes are also probably what killed her. She was a chainsmoker for most of her life, and was so often photographed holding cigarettes that MGM would airbrush them out in an attempt to hide it.

by Anonymousreply 101March 24, 2024 5:29 PM

I read Cheryl’s autobiography. She is not remotely self pitying but life was very hard for her for years after the stabbing. I don’t think at all that she lied on her mother’s behalf.

I have a coffee table book of photographs of Lana that Cheryl put out years ago. She was so beautiful, but she aged prematurely in my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 102March 24, 2024 5:56 PM

The R40 clip shows that they also got Lana's hairstyle wrong. at the time she wore her hair short.

by Anonymousreply 103March 24, 2024 5:58 PM

R70 - I read that it was Sharon Stone and Antonio Banderas. Sharon is the same kind of actress as Lana. Not much ability but tons of charisma.

by Anonymousreply 104March 24, 2024 6:00 PM

R81 - Cheryl Crane sounds as dumb as her mother.

by Anonymousreply 105March 24, 2024 6:16 PM

[quote]Not much ability but tons of charisma.

Starlet charisma maybe. Sharon doesn't have a movie star resume. If it hadn't been for Basic Instinct...

by Anonymousreply 106March 24, 2024 6:17 PM

Lana was usually soft and feminine onscreen, it's hard to get that right today because no leading actresses want to play those qualities any more.

In the big costume picture, Green Dolphin Street, she played a more calculating, but still vulnerable character, a sort of Scarlett O'Hara of the Channel Islands (and later, New Zealand). And in The Three Musketeers, she was the scheming Milady DeWinter. But she was always feminine in that popular old-movie way, while a lot of the female stars today come across as hard.

by Anonymousreply 107March 24, 2024 6:18 PM

[quote] I have a coffee table book of photographs of Lana that Cheryl put out years ago.

That's a great book. Despite being photo-oriented, it has great insight into Lana, more than I have read elsewhere. If I'm not mistaken Cheryl says Lana's closest friend was Virginia Gray, and that she was close to Judy Garland. There are such photos as Lana mowing grass, and making turkey gravy at Thanksgiving at Cheryl's place in San Francisco - the kinds of details only Cheryl could have included.

by Anonymousreply 108March 24, 2024 6:23 PM

R4 Woody Allen's "September" is loosely inspired by the Lana Turner-Cheryl Crane-Johnny Stompanato incident.

Mia Farrow plays the daughter of a famous Hollywood actress (Elaine Stritch) who killed her mother's boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 109March 24, 2024 7:13 PM

Well, who pray tell plays the Johnny Stompanato role, r109?

by Anonymousreply 110March 24, 2024 7:14 PM

Didn't Judy Garland once famously compare Lana to a beautiful (empty) vase?

by Anonymousreply 111March 24, 2024 7:15 PM

I loved Hugh O'Brian in a bright yellow speedo in Lana's LOVE HAS MANY FACES. I wonder if they connected on set?

by Anonymousreply 112March 24, 2024 7:17 PM

Was Lex Barker an awful actor? How could someone who looked like that and with his various marital connections not get some better roles in Hollywood?

Has anyone ever seen one of his Tarzan movies? I can't remember one ever even being on TV to watch. Looks alone, he was one of the most gorgeous actors ever to appear in Golden Age Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 113March 24, 2024 7:20 PM

R110 The movie takes place decades after the murder, so there's not Stompanato character in it.

by Anonymousreply 114March 24, 2024 7:25 PM

R111 - no that was Artie Shaw.

by Anonymousreply 115March 24, 2024 7:34 PM

Lana and Ricardo Montalbano dance in "Latin Lovers".

Look and see the jealous girl Christina played by Rita Moreno.

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by Anonymousreply 116March 24, 2024 7:43 PM

Lana wore nothing but black, white, or gray in that film.

by Anonymousreply 117March 24, 2024 7:44 PM

Those big heels must have been hell to dance in .

by Anonymousreply 118March 24, 2024 7:47 PM

Lana in 'The Prodigal' (1955), a forgettable biblical epic that was on TCM recently. She was 34 when the film was released.

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by Anonymousreply 119March 24, 2024 8:14 PM

She had a small body and a big head - like so many stars.

by Anonymousreply 120March 24, 2024 8:26 PM

Peyton Place is really such a good movie. Of course I'm from New England, so I guess that helps. But they did a great job with it (not a faithful adaptation - very much cleaned up - but retaining most of the characters and situations). Lana was able to lead that big cast at that time. She had a lot of star power. She had to play the mother of a teenager, and a strait-laced mother, at that (though hiding a secret). Well-deserved Oscar nomination.

by Anonymousreply 121March 24, 2024 8:29 PM

Lana was supposed to be the next Harlow for Metro, but actually became the next Crawford after Joan aged out...

by Anonymousreply 122March 24, 2024 9:30 PM

R122 I never thought of her as the next Crawford. That's an interesting take. In some ways, I see it, in others, no. One of the first Lana movies I ever saw was Keep Your Powder Dry, which is a kind of precursor to Private Benjamin, where spoiled Lana ends up in the WACs in WWII. That role didn't have anything to do with Joan Crawford's persona. I wouldn't say Postman did, either. Which parts did you have in mind?

by Anonymousreply 123March 24, 2024 9:38 PM

She was really glamorous in Portrait in Black - a 1960 film w/Anthony Quinn and Richard Basehart. I read that the jewels she wore in many scenes were real and she was always decked out in elegant outfits. She may not have been a great actress but she played the glamour card to perfection.

An earlier movie was Cass Timberlane w/Spencer Tracy - that was a really good movie and she just happened to co-star in it.

I just love all the glamorous clothes, jewels and sophisticated hair styles from days gone by - so many women go around today looking like they just finished running a 10 miler - and smell like it to!

by Anonymousreply 124March 24, 2024 9:46 PM

It was really hard for MGM to cast the female lead in Cass Timberlane. (Spencer Tracy played Cass.) Originally they intended it for Spencer Tracy and Jennifer Jones (who resembled the character in the book more than Lana). But she turned down some of the early scripts - which were not supposed to have been very good. MGM then tested many of their girls, and it came down to several including June Allyson and Virginia Gray. After a while it looked like Gray had it, and at last would get to break out of supporting roles and become a star. Then somehow it went to Lana. Cast against type, but she pulled it off, and the movie was a huge hit.

by Anonymousreply 125March 24, 2024 9:53 PM

I’ve always thought ( she may be too old now) that Scarlett Johansson had that curvy, creamy candy box blonde look that Lana had - what was CZJ thinking?!

by Anonymousreply 126March 24, 2024 10:38 PM

Virginia Grey (not Gray) was so adorably sexy (and funny) in her one scene as Joan Crawford's perfume counter chum Pat in THE WOMEN it's baffling that MGM didn't build up her career and give her better roles. I don't think she even got a credit in THE WOMEN.

by Anonymousreply 127March 24, 2024 10:42 PM

I enjoyed this thread... and this probably heresy to most of you: I always thought Turner was a bit of a blank, a cipher. Both as an actress and as a beauty/star. I can close my eyes and summon the face of all the great stars (Crawford, Gardner, Bacall, et. al.) but I can't for the life of me retrieve Turner's face. Just generic, melting blonde. It might be her eyes... what someone once said of Steve Martin, dead pig eyes.

Not trolling... just interesting that so many worshipped her and she seemed so unfinished and middling to me.

by Anonymousreply 128March 24, 2024 10:45 PM

Lana was clearly dressed, coifed and made up to evoke Harlow in THE POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE. She even has the highly plucked arched eyebrows.

As for replacing Crawford at MGM, it's been said (at least on DL!) that Hedy Lamarr replaced Garbo, Greer Garson replaced Shearer and Lana replaced Joan when the older actresses left the studio. Of course, none of those replacements were exactly the same types but generally speaking they filled the right gaps.

by Anonymousreply 129March 24, 2024 10:46 PM

R112 Hugh was so hot in that movie. I wish Warner Archive would do a Blu-ray of Love Has Many Faces soon

by Anonymousreply 130March 24, 2024 10:52 PM

Following Lana's bullet bra-clad tits always led you to trouble.

by Anonymousreply 131March 24, 2024 10:53 PM

R127 She was a good luck charm for Ross Hunter and he put her in many movies when he could, like All That Heaven Allows. She was involved off and on with Clark Gable for a long time, which is sometimes given as an explanation for her remaining single her whole life. Apparently she was expecting to marry him when he suddenly married Lady Sylvia Ashley.

R129 Lana had no eyebrows. They were shaved off for a role in The Adventures Of Marco Polo (1938) and never grew back. She wore stick-on fakes. Her makeup man Del Armstrong was in the service, I think, during postman, and she did her makeup herself, for the movie. I think the brows were drawn on. Maybe not anything consciously emulating Harlow. Though I get your point - her hairstyle was similar and Jean did wear a lot of white.

by Anonymousreply 132March 24, 2024 10:55 PM

Lana Turner was the epitome of an Old Hollywood STAR. She played it to the hilt to the end.

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by Anonymousreply 133March 24, 2024 11:01 PM

[QUOTE] I wish Warner Archive would do a Blu-ray of Love Has Many Faces soon

Love Has Many Faces is Criterion-worthy!

by Anonymousreply 134March 24, 2024 11:02 PM

She did an hour with Phil Donahue in 1982, and she was just stunning. Perhaps a tad affected, but it was a compelling hour. Tanned and gorgeous and poised, she looked and acted like a Movie Star.

by Anonymousreply 135March 24, 2024 11:03 PM

She doesn't seem affected at all earlier when you see her in newsreels or hear her on radio shows. He daughter Cheryl said she started acting the Movie Star somewhat later. It's really unfortunate when you see the old stars and they seem affected.

by Anonymousreply 136March 24, 2024 11:07 PM

[quote]She even has the highly plucked arched eyebrows.

They weren't plucked, they were drawn on, r129. MGM had shaved her eyebrows and they never grew back.

by Anonymousreply 137March 24, 2024 11:13 PM

^ Just saw your reply, r132.

by Anonymousreply 138March 24, 2024 11:15 PM

She put on that affectation because she knew (or feared) there was nothing else there.

You have to remember she was a teenager, plucked out of nowhere with no actor training. And no higher education or even life experience to form her adult mind. Once MGM got a hold of her, made her into a product and di everything for her, she didn't much have to think at all and never matured into a soulful thinking person.

by Anonymousreply 139March 24, 2024 11:17 PM

She had amazing hair, at least until the day she left public life. Considering the years of bleaching, setting, drying and processing, it was always gorgeously thick.

Kind of reminds me of Hugh O'Brian's yellow speedo.

by Anonymousreply 140March 24, 2024 11:20 PM

Wasn’t it Lana that said “I Like The Boys and the Boys Like Me!”

by Anonymousreply 141March 24, 2024 11:25 PM

....Hugh Talks about playing Skye Masterson at the WH and in Vietnam.

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by Anonymousreply 142March 24, 2024 11:27 PM

r130 - Just for you -

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by Anonymousreply 143March 24, 2024 11:27 PM

I like Tina better

by Anonymousreply 144March 24, 2024 11:28 PM

I like Ike!

by Anonymousreply 145March 24, 2024 11:29 PM


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by Anonymousreply 146March 24, 2024 11:29 PM

Never look back, r146.

by Anonymousreply 147March 24, 2024 11:41 PM

I agree that Turner is pretty bleh even when directed by George Cukor. If you look at a Life of Her Own she it totally out-acted by Ann Dvorak.

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by Anonymousreply 148March 24, 2024 11:48 PM

the big cube

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by Anonymousreply 149March 24, 2024 11:53 PM

[quote]Lana's leading man in "Latin Lovers" was supposed to be her current squeeze, Fernando Lamas, after their successful pairing in "The Merry Widow." But Lamas flew into a jealous rage after Lana danced with Lex Barker at a party, and beat her black and blue, forcing her to cancel all public engagements until all the bruises had healed. An enraged Louis B. Mayer fired Lamas and canceled his contract.

Nope. Louis B. Mayer was let go in 1951 by the bean counters of Lowe's Inc. in New York. He wasn't at MGM when "The Merry Widow" was released let along when "Latin Lovers" was planned.

by Anonymousreply 150March 24, 2024 11:56 PM

Lex didn't get better parts because he sucked as an actor and he was a fucking monster and everyone knew.

by Anonymousreply 151March 24, 2024 11:57 PM

Wasn't Lex also married to Arlene Dahl? And didn't she deny his alleged rape of Cheryl Crane saying his cock was too big for Cheryl's young pussy?

Who you gonna believe here?

by Anonymousreply 152March 25, 2024 12:02 AM

R123 "Keep Your Powder Dry" is a fun, underrated movie. Lana is good in it, as are the rest of the cast (Susan Peters, Laraine Day, Agnes Moorehead). It's a great time capsule of WWII cinema, "girl power" style. It is rarely talked about, even in film buff circles. Warner Archive put it out on DVD-R, but I've been quietly hoping they'd do a Blu-ray edition someday. It deserves it.

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by Anonymousreply 153March 25, 2024 12:11 AM

The Dr.s when Cheryl had to go to the hospital?

by Anonymousreply 154March 25, 2024 12:14 AM

I think Lana was patterned after Crawford in a general sense. Turner's background wasn't great either, but she too worked hard to get to the top. They started teaming her with Gable, playing off her unlucky in love off-screen rep, cast her in the Crawford role in the Grand Hotel remake, and basically made many of her movies into fashion shows, like JC. Basically, Lana too was the shopgirl's daydream...

by Anonymousreply 155March 25, 2024 12:21 AM

About Lana's lack of depth or maturity. That was an issue for many golden era stars, who were indeed plucked from obscurity, shot to stardom, and every life situation was taken care of for them by the studio. But once they were done, a number of stars didn't know how to cope. Lana certainly floundered, getting mixed up with Johnny. I'm sure if that had happened under LB Mayer's watch, he would have made quick work of him. Hedy Lamarr lamented that lack of studio "care" once she was on her own. Joan seemed to thrive with the security of a studio contract. Others hated it, like Elizabeth Taylor.

by Anonymousreply 156March 25, 2024 12:26 AM

Did Lana take a ride on the Mickey Rooney train, like so many others?

by Anonymousreply 157March 25, 2024 12:47 AM

He claimed she did. Mickey even said he got her pregnant and she had to get an abortion but Lana fervently denied it.

by Anonymousreply 158March 25, 2024 12:49 AM

Didn’t Lana find out what Lex Barker was doing to Cheryl and threatened to kill him and threw him out right away?

Cheryl had an eBay store for a time and sold off some of Lana’s things, it was mostly trinkets and costume jewelry but I communicated with her a few times and she was lovely.

by Anonymousreply 159March 25, 2024 12:57 AM

Did Turner have an altercation with Monroe and Bacall or am I thinking of someone else?

by Anonymousreply 160March 25, 2024 1:05 AM

R159 according to Cheryl, Lana ordered Lex out of the house at gunpoint when she found out what had been going on.

by Anonymousreply 161March 25, 2024 1:11 AM

Lex was a monster but just like Cheryl I'm torn. He's so good looking.

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by Anonymousreply 162March 25, 2024 1:14 AM

I see what you did there, R162. 👀

by Anonymousreply 163March 25, 2024 1:16 AM

What an ego blow. You think you are one of the most desirable women in the world and your husband wants your daughter instead.

by Anonymousreply 164March 25, 2024 1:17 AM

Precious’s mother ^^

by Anonymousreply 165March 25, 2024 1:20 AM

R150, Oops. You're right. Dore Schary was in charge and he apparently didn't think Lana was anything special. But she was a popular and bankable star.

by Anonymousreply 166March 25, 2024 1:21 AM

Back then they thought you were over the hill at 30.

by Anonymousreply 167March 25, 2024 1:23 AM

And given the stress, booze, drugs and smoking, R167 - you were!

by Anonymousreply 168March 25, 2024 1:26 AM

Yes, the cigs and booze aged a lot of them prematurely. Davis, Crawford, Bacall, Turner, Gardner etc.

by Anonymousreply 169March 25, 2024 1:36 AM

Lana aged the way Joan Collins has. "Kept her figure," had plastic surgery, wore shit tons of makeup, and glitzy gowns. Looked great, as long as you didn't look too close. Though Lana cleaned up her act and looked much better than the blowsy 1970s, in the '80s and '90s, Turner looked like the aging dance teacher in "Strictly Ballroom!"

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by Anonymousreply 170March 25, 2024 1:53 AM

Lana was first and foremost a movie star but she was not a bad actress at any rate. There are a slew of compliments in this thread about quite a few of her performances and rightfully so. I don't think anyone has yet mentioned how fabulous she was in "The Bad and The Beautiful". One of Vincente Minnelli's best films.

by Anonymousreply 171March 25, 2024 2:21 AM

She did some bad acting when she took the stand in court. She was chewing scenery left and right.

by Anonymousreply 172March 25, 2024 2:28 AM

Cheryl just turned 80.

by Anonymousreply 173March 25, 2024 2:29 AM

The place where Lana Turner was discovered is a Chick-fil-A now.

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by Anonymousreply 175March 25, 2024 2:31 AM

I don’t know r170 Lana looked pretty rough towards the end of the 60s and into the 70s and she was in her late 40s-50s then. Joan Collins looked pretty good in those trashy late 70s movies she did that were based off her sisters book and well into the 1980s and 90s. Lana did have some major work done in the late 70s early 80s and looked much better.

by Anonymousreply 176March 25, 2024 2:34 AM

mmmm hmmmm R175. Like other posters have said he's one of the most beautiful men who stepped in front of the camera. Unfortunately as acting goes he's the male version of Whitney Blake.

by Anonymousreply 177March 25, 2024 2:35 AM

You guys realize they didn't have all the fillers and crap they have now, right? I thought Lana looked good for a long time. She still looked good when she was 40-45. Still playing leads, and it wasn't because of her amazing dramatic ability.

By the way, don't you think any actresses smoke or drink today? Or do drugs? There's this crazy idea that all of todays actresses are vegans and sleep 12 hours a night.

by Anonymousreply 178March 25, 2024 3:16 AM

Let me know what actress drinks like Ava Gardner or smokes like Lauren Bacall among today's major players.

by Anonymousreply 179March 25, 2024 3:34 AM

R179 You don't know what they do. Honestly. DO YOU? Anyway, Bacall looked great for years. Hard drinking will do you in, however.

by Anonymousreply 180March 25, 2024 3:39 AM

Smokin young celebs. Current or past smokers.

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by Anonymousreply 182March 25, 2024 3:44 AM

Lana makes her exit...

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by Anonymousreply 183March 25, 2024 3:49 AM

Lana's Bad and the Beautiful big scene.

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by Anonymousreply 184March 25, 2024 3:56 AM

R175, Arlene Dahl said Lex Barker had the biggest cock she’d ever seen and she was married to both Lex and Fernando Lamas.

Lorenzo Lamas wrote in his memoir that his father Fernando’s cock was enormous.

by Anonymousreply 185March 25, 2024 4:03 AM

R185 Classy.

by Anonymousreply 186March 25, 2024 4:21 AM

A Life Of Her Own was the first Lana Turner starring vehicle that didn't do well at the box office. It was her first movie after she married the wealthy guy, Bob Topping, and disappeared from the screen for a couple of years. MGM indulged her. If it was Judy, they wouldn't have, so why Lana? I don't know.

Wendell Corey was her original co-star. He made a remark when she was late one day about how Stanwyck would never have kept everybody waiting. Wendell was shipped back to Paramount, who sent over Ray Milland. There wasn't much chemistry there (but probably more than with Corey).

Originally, Lana was supposed to kill herself, at the end, the way Ann Dvorak did near the beginning of the film. Audiences at previews hated the ending. This was one of George Cukor's occasional misfires.

by Anonymousreply 187March 25, 2024 5:03 AM

MGM indulged her. If it was Judy, they wouldn't have, so why Lana? I don't know.

I think perhaps because it was Cukor directing - the woman's director.

by Anonymousreply 188March 25, 2024 5:09 AM

Is Joyce/Josh - Cheryl’s partner still alive? Didn’t they do real estate in Palm Springs for years?

by Anonymousreply 189March 25, 2024 5:12 AM

R188 Well, I meant MGM basically let Lana take time off and kept trying to get her to come back - after the movie, Homecoming (1948), I think. A big hit. She went off on an extended honeymoon, and to live with her new husband back East. They kept trying to lure her back, finally getting her to come back and make A Life Of Her Own (1950). I can't imagine Judy getting away with that.

by Anonymousreply 190March 25, 2024 5:18 AM

In the A Life of Her Own trailer you can see Lana dancing with Hermes Pan in a party scene.

by Anonymousreply 191March 25, 2024 5:24 AM

A Life of Her Own is such an underrated movie. Quite ahead of its time. I think it's her best performance. She plays an unapologetic tough cookie that doesn't give up her femininity.

by Anonymousreply 192March 25, 2024 5:30 AM

Yes she's a bit dumpy to be a fashion model. Unlike the skinny Ann Dvorak.

by Anonymousreply 193March 25, 2024 6:53 AM

Lana says that Hedy Lamar was the most beautiful woman in Hollywood. "She couldn't act, but she was beautiful."

She says that Morgan Fairchild and Victoria Principal are the most glamorous actresses of today.

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by Anonymousreply 194March 25, 2024 7:50 AM

I liked her laugh when Joan wanted her to meet her dentist cousin.

by Anonymousreply 195March 25, 2024 8:10 AM

More big cock stories and evening gown pics!

by Anonymousreply 196March 25, 2024 9:48 AM

Cheryl and Christina on Donahue!

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by Anonymousreply 197March 25, 2024 1:12 PM

If you watch some of her early films, circa 1939-40, you can see why she became a star. She was drop dead gorgeous but also very unaffected and charming. She was very much herself and you can't take your eyes off her. Later, when she started to "act" she became very affected. Also, her features hardened quite early, by the end of the 40's, and she looked much older than she was.

by Anonymousreply 198March 25, 2024 1:25 PM

How did they come up with the name Lana? She was originally Judy Turner but they already had a Judy who was formerly a Frances.

by Anonymousreply 199March 25, 2024 1:40 PM

R199, “lana” means wool in Spanish.

by Anonymousreply 200March 25, 2024 1:43 PM

Her name backwards is “Anal Renrut”.

by Anonymousreply 201March 25, 2024 1:44 PM

Was anyone named Lana before Lana Turner? Even in Spanish-speaking countries?

by Anonymousreply 202March 25, 2024 1:45 PM

In her biography, she emphasized that her name was pronounced "Laaana," with a soft "A," not "Lahna."

by Anonymousreply 203March 25, 2024 1:45 PM

Lana Wood was not named after Lana Turner.

Her birth name was Svetlana.

by Anonymousreply 204March 25, 2024 1:53 PM

Remember that line from postcards from the edge when Shirley MacLaine asks Meryl Streep “how would you like to have Joan Crawford or Lana Turner as a mother?”

by Anonymousreply 205March 25, 2024 1:55 PM

The novel of 1936, Drums Along The Mohawk, has a main character named Lana (so does the movie, 1939). Set in NY state in the 1700s.

by Anonymousreply 206March 25, 2024 1:56 PM

Lana revealed in her 1982 autobiography that it was sixth husband Robert Eaton who satisfied her sexually more than any man had before or since.

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by Anonymousreply 207March 25, 2024 1:59 PM

I read both Lana Turner's and Cheryl Crane's autobiographies.

Without a doubt, Cheryl's book was much more honest and forthcoming, but I never got the sense that Cheryl resented her mother. I think she just saw her as a somewhat distant person who didn't quite know how to be a mom.

Cheryl was also candid about what a rebellious hellion she was during her teen years, and she never blamed her mother for her difficulties.

by Anonymousreply 208March 25, 2024 1:59 PM

Lana loved partying and staying up late…like Joan Crawford, it eventually affected her looks. She also got way too much sun.

She should have hired someone to murder Lex Barker for what he did to Cheryl.

by Anonymousreply 209March 25, 2024 2:26 PM

Johnny Stompanato was hot as f

by Anonymousreply 210March 25, 2024 2:27 PM

R205 These are the options?

by Anonymousreply 211March 25, 2024 2:33 PM

Did you guys know Lana and Cheryl had a falling out before her death? Lana was dying of cancer and felt abandoned by Cheryl. She disinherited her and left the bulk of her estate (about 3.5 million in today’s dollars) to her longtime maid who nursed her through her illness. Cheryl challenged the will, but most of the money was squandered by the legal team and financial managers for the estate. Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 212March 25, 2024 2:42 PM

“In “Detour”, Cheryl recounts the gossip that Johnny was nicknamed “Oscar” because the size of his penis recalled the Academy Award statuette.”

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by Anonymousreply 213March 25, 2024 2:46 PM

So it was after the falling out and being disinherited that Cheryl wrote that affectionate coffee table book??

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by Anonymousreply 214March 25, 2024 2:51 PM

R207 With all the talk here about how badly she aged, it's nice to see from that photo that she still looked great (in the 1960s). She and Doris Day were about the same age and looked good fore a long time.

by Anonymousreply 215March 25, 2024 2:58 PM

I read the book her longtime hairdresser/stylist/ companion wrote after her death.

He happened to be away the day she died and was hurt that no one ever contacted him. He was informed of Lana’s death by a friend who called him when she heard the news on the radio.

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by Anonymousreply 216March 25, 2024 2:58 PM

[quote]She disinherited her and left the bulk of her estate (about 3.5 million in today’s dollars) to her longtime maid

It amazes me that Lana, Bette and Joan worked continuously throughout their lives, but they all died with very little money by Hollywood standards. None of them lived extravagantly, either. Each of them needed that Social Security check each month. By comparison, TV stars like Angela Lansbury, Bea Arthur and Betty White were worth much more towards the end of their careers, even though they were never A-list stars.

by Anonymousreply 217March 25, 2024 3:46 PM

Here's Lana at 52, still in her drinking days, in 1974's hag horror film "Persecution." She looks 20 years older!

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by Anonymousreply 218March 25, 2024 3:50 PM

R217 That's the studio system for you. The stars of the golden age of Hollywood were salaried employees. No cut of the profits, no residuals, no nothing beyond their weekly pay.

by Anonymousreply 219March 25, 2024 3:55 PM

Some invested their money wisely or they married into money. But so many spent lavishly on themselves and their families and had nothing to show for it. You don’t think that Joan Crawford married Alfred Steele for love do you? She was always one or two steps ahead of her creditors.

by Anonymousreply 220March 25, 2024 4:03 PM

Back in the '30s and '40s, 85% or more of the salaries of the rich went for taxes.

by Anonymousreply 221March 25, 2024 4:39 PM

Speaking of Joan Collins - here is an opinion on how she attracts men.

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by Anonymousreply 222March 25, 2024 4:57 PM

I posted this video as a thread (but no one looked at it). If you check out at the sides of Joan's face, you'll notice that the long strands of her her wig seem to be glued to her face, so that the rest won't show.

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by Anonymousreply 223March 25, 2024 5:03 PM

While a young ingénue at MGM, Lana revealed that her favorite childhood actresses were Kay Francis and Norma Shearer. No love for poor Joan.

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by Anonymousreply 224March 25, 2024 5:05 PM

R230, Christina Crawford claimed that Joan hated Alfred Steele and probably murdered him.

by Anonymousreply 225March 25, 2024 5:13 PM

At the least, she drove him to a heart attack with her greediness and demanding ways.

by Anonymousreply 226March 25, 2024 5:29 PM

Dame Joan Collins appears to not want to show her old lady ears.

by Anonymousreply 227March 25, 2024 5:45 PM

Did Joan ever get to give the Lex cock a ride?

by Anonymousreply 228March 25, 2024 5:46 PM

Joan Crawford and Lana Turner made good money in their day, but also lived like movie queens, with their spending. Lana got a nice cut from "Imitation of Life" and maybe a few later pictures. But they were both past their prime to get the million dollar salaries/10% of the gross that Elizabeth Taylor got through the '60s. Also, a lot of these female stars seemed to have family that leaned on them for money...

by Anonymousreply 229March 25, 2024 5:48 PM

Joan Collins and her great leading men, in their worst movies!

by Anonymousreply 230March 25, 2024 5:49 PM

Do you think Liz Taylor didn't have family that leaned on her for money?

by Anonymousreply 231March 25, 2024 5:51 PM

Liz had a lot more dough to spread around, r231. And outside of Fortensky, none of her other husbands were blue collar.

by Anonymousreply 232March 25, 2024 5:54 PM

A few years after Lana's stint on "Falcon Crest," her galpal Ava followed suit with several appearances on "Knots Landing." When asked why she came out of retirement to do the primetime soap, Ava responded, "I'm doing the show for the loot. It's that simple." Those MGM goodtime girls ended up with no spouse and less money than we thought.

by Anonymousreply 233March 25, 2024 6:15 PM

Frank paid Ava’s bills for a while, didn’t he?

by Anonymousreply 234March 25, 2024 6:17 PM

Good Lord. How many marriages did she have??

by Anonymousreply 235March 25, 2024 6:19 PM

Fred May was Lana's Al Pepsi.

by Anonymousreply 236March 25, 2024 6:22 PM

Lana was the Goldilocks of cocks. She married many times until she could find the cock that was just right.

by Anonymousreply 237March 25, 2024 6:22 PM

[quote]She married many times until she could find the cock that was just right.

I don't think Lana ever found one that was "just right."

by Anonymousreply 238March 25, 2024 6:25 PM

What I don't like about Lana's looks in later years is that she looked slightly emaciated. She said she thought she looked better thinner, as she got older, but it gave her a hollowed out look.

by Anonymousreply 239March 25, 2024 6:30 PM

She smoked. It's an appetite suppressant.

by Anonymousreply 240March 25, 2024 6:43 PM

Good cock increases the appetite though. I wonder if Lex was bigger than Buster Crabbe?

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by Anonymousreply 241March 25, 2024 7:24 PM

She said on the Joan Rivers interview she married 7 times.

by Anonymousreply 242March 25, 2024 7:26 PM

Was it her personal assistant that wrote about how loud and uncouth Lana acted in public in her later years, scandalizing other diners in restaurants with her language and such? I seem to remember a thread about that, maybe a few years ago.

by Anonymousreply 243March 25, 2024 7:29 PM

Wait a minute, Lana had Buster Crabbe too?

by Anonymousreply 244March 25, 2024 7:32 PM

^Doesn't sound like Lana.

by Anonymousreply 245March 25, 2024 7:32 PM

I wonder how Lana felt about Helen Lawson's "loose" portrayal of her in "Where Love Has Gone"? Instead of a glamorous cock-loving actress, Helen's character was a glamorous cock-loving sculptress.

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by Anonymousreply 246March 25, 2024 8:21 PM

Live by the chisel...

by Anonymousreply 247March 25, 2024 8:23 PM

Long dong Lana…that’s what they called her at the Riviera Country Club

by Anonymousreply 248March 25, 2024 8:26 PM

[quote]Wait a minute, Lana had Buster Crabbe too?

And Joan had crabs.

by Anonymousreply 249March 25, 2024 8:43 PM

[quote]Lana was a movie star, she did movie star acting. —Joan, Clark, Barbra

R15, by "Barbra" do you mean Stanwyck. The name is always spelled BARBARA, except by Streisand.

by Anonymousreply 250March 25, 2024 8:48 PM

No, r250, I mean't Barbra. You can add Redford as a practitioner of movie star acting. Stanwyck really didn't do it. Her performances were more honest and it gave her a wider lane.

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by Anonymousreply 252March 25, 2024 9:01 PM

I would have cut off my left tit for a chance to have been pounded by Buster. Even Esther Williams has confirmed his size meat and that if she didn't keep moving he was trying to stick it in her. He's one of the most handsome and well built men ever.

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by Anonymousreply 253March 25, 2024 9:14 PM

That was Weissmuller, t253, not Crabbe.

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by Anonymousreply 254March 25, 2024 9:17 PM

^ r253

by Anonymousreply 255March 25, 2024 9:18 PM

You're right. It was Johnny that schtupping Esther.

by Anonymousreply 256March 25, 2024 9:21 PM

Neither of them had Esther.

by Anonymousreply 257March 25, 2024 9:31 PM

Okay, didn't they all do "movie star acting"? That more natural style didn't really start until 50s and didn't really become a thing until at least a decade later, right?

by Anonymousreply 258March 25, 2024 9:46 PM

Tracy always had the natural style.

by Anonymousreply 259March 25, 2024 10:16 PM

[quote]Neither of them had Esther.

Johnny used to rub up against Esther with his big hard dick when they swam together in an aquatic show before they were movie stars, r257....

by Anonymousreply 260March 25, 2024 10:22 PM

R260 Yeah, I know. That doesn't mean he was schtupping her.

by Anonymousreply 261March 25, 2024 10:26 PM

[quote] I always thought Lana should’ve been included in the AFI Top 50 Actors/Actresses list. I thought she should’ve had the overrated Loretta Young spot.

Boy, I sure don't. Lana was the greater star, but she could not have acted her way out of a wet paper bag if there were a big-dicked muscleman on the other side.

Loretta o the other hand could genuinely act. If you ever watch the audition reels for the part of the 2nd Mrs. de Winter in REBECCA, you'll see she gives by far the most moving and finely calibrated performance of all the auditioners, better even than those of such superb actors as Vivien Leigh (who is much too vixenish) and Margaret Sullavan (who is too neurotic), Young is even better than Joan Fontaine, although Fontaine was the right choice for the role in the end since Young was too glamorous for the role.

by Anonymousreply 262March 25, 2024 10:31 PM

R262, Loretta Young was an exponentially better actress than Lana Turner.

by Anonymousreply 263March 25, 2024 10:34 PM

Loretta was a good actress, I think Bette Davis said she was underrated. But too flowery and overdramatic an actress for the part in Rebecca.

by Anonymousreply 264March 25, 2024 10:37 PM

Barbara was pretty natural for her era and more versatile, which is why her standing as an actress endures...

by Anonymousreply 265March 25, 2024 10:37 PM

Marlene Dietrich hated Loretta Young.

by Anonymousreply 266March 25, 2024 10:38 PM

Is it true that she and Nat Turner share bloodlines?

by Anonymousreply 267March 25, 2024 10:40 PM

Who knew?

“Johnny Stompanato’s roommate one year was a former New Trier High School student named Hugh Krampe, who went on to fame as the actor Hugh O’Brian, star of the 1950s TV show The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp. “He was a pretty amazing person in many ways,” O’Brian says of Johnny today. “Unfortunately, not all of it was put to use in the right direction.””

by Anonymousreply 268March 25, 2024 10:42 PM

Didn't Marlene think Loretta was hypocritically pious?

Here's a cool pic of the two of them.

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by Anonymousreply 269March 25, 2024 10:42 PM

In a new book I've just been reading about the murder, I learned Stompanato was gay for pay, one of his johns being Liberace.

The book is so full of factual errors, though I believe that.

by Anonymousreply 270March 25, 2024 10:45 PM

Marlene had such style.

Marlene thought Loretta was a sanctimonious holier than thou cunt.

by Anonymousreply 271March 25, 2024 10:45 PM

But Loretta was better looking.

by Anonymousreply 272March 25, 2024 10:49 PM

Like Stephen Crane, Stompanato made up a background and told Lana his name was John Steele. He was hoping Lana would get him into the movies.

She was hopelessly trusting, apparently.

by Anonymousreply 273March 25, 2024 10:53 PM

[quote][R260] Yeah, I know. That doesn't mean he was schtupping her.

I don't remember if they did or not (via her book), r261.

by Anonymousreply 274March 25, 2024 10:56 PM

[quote]In a new book I've just been reading about the murder, I learned Stompanato was gay for pay, one of his johns being Liberace.

If I'd known that, I would have knifed him.

by Anonymousreply 275March 25, 2024 11:01 PM

R274 Not.

by Anonymousreply 276March 25, 2024 11:02 PM

[quote]Marlene Dietrich hated Loretta Young.

Didn’t pretty much everybody?

by Anonymousreply 277March 25, 2024 11:03 PM

Damn, r269, Marlene looks so chic.

by Anonymousreply 278March 25, 2024 11:03 PM

Here's a dollar, Loretta. Now go fuck yourself!

by Anonymousreply 279March 25, 2024 11:07 PM

Wily but not so smart.

Bent when young.

by Anonymousreply 280March 25, 2024 11:07 PM

[quote]Barbara was pretty natural for her era and more versatile, which is why her standing as an actress endures...

More versatile and she wasn't showy, r265. To use the quote (again) from a book I used to have:

[quote]Stanwyck may never have been as good as Davis at her best, but she was never as bad as Davis at her worst. In fact, she never gave a bad performance.

by Anonymousreply 281March 25, 2024 11:10 PM

She was fresh and beautiful for a while, but all the drinking, smoking, and sun aged her fast. Like it did Lauren Bacall.

by Anonymousreply 282March 25, 2024 11:13 PM

I love the story about Loretta Young and her on set swear jar. I can’t remember the star but they got so frustrated with Loretta they took out a $20 bill put it in the swear jar and loudly told Loretta to go fuck herself.

by Anonymousreply 283March 25, 2024 11:58 PM

R283, there are quite a numer of stories about Loretta's swear jar:

1. While making "Rachel and the Stranger" with Loretta, Robert Mitchum reputedly held his tongue about his pious co-star until shooting was completed. As he exited the set on the final day of production, Mitchum smiled, dropped a $20 bill into the jar, and said, "This should just about cover everything I've been wanting to say to Loretta."

2. Once while rehearsing for an appearance on the Loretta Young television show, Ethel Merman was told it would cost her a dollar each time she swore since Young disapproved of foul language. As she was fighting to get into an ill-fitting gown, Merman shouted: "Oh shit, this damn thing's too tight." Young held out her curse box and said, "Come on Ethel, put a dollar in. You know my rules." Merman is said to have replied: "Ah, honey, how much will it cost me to tell you to go fuck yourself?"

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by Anonymousreply 285March 26, 2024 12:16 AM

That story is also credited to Joe Mankiewicz.

by Anonymousreply 286March 26, 2024 12:17 AM

Which story? We've heard so very many of them by now.

by Anonymousreply 287March 26, 2024 12:26 AM

The one about how much will it cost me to tell you to go fuck yourself.

by Anonymousreply 288March 26, 2024 12:28 AM

Lorenzo on Fernando's penis, so to speak.

"Suddenly, Dad appears right behind me. I turn and look. He is standing there naked with a huge erection. Never in my life have I seen anything like it. I am this seven-year-old kid, a guest in my father’s home. Still learning the ways of the world. Still trying to figure things out. And now my father is standing there as if nothing is wrong, his corn dog sticking in my face as I try not to stare. “Hey, amigo,” he says, “you must be getting hungry.” I avert my eyes away from Dad’s big salami. “Yeah, a little,” I mumble. I’ve watched National Geographic specials and stared at enough pictures in magazines to know what penises look like. Dad’s, however, is beyond my comprehension. I add, “I was wondering when you guys were going to come out.” Dad carries on like we are having a normal conversation, as if nothing is out of the ordinary as his flagpole still stands at attention. “We took a swim, amigo,” he says matter-of-factly. “Esther is taking a shower and then she is going to start dinner.” I can only think of one thing: “Wow, is that the way I am going to be? I hope so!” The fact Dad is so well endowed makes me realize later why women loved him and put up with his shenanigans. As the years went on, I never mentioned the incident of the erection or its effect on me. I do ask once, much later, “Did you ever play around on Esther?” And Dad says, “I never fooled around on Esther.” “Nothing ever stopped you before with other people.” “Well, with Esther, it’s different,” he admits. “She loves having sex and we do it a lot.”"

by Anonymousreply 289March 26, 2024 12:43 AM

Lana had a piece of Joe Louis. Because of the times, he’d sneak in through the servants door of her house. He fucked Sonia Henie too. Cheryl didn’t mention it in the book she wrote about Lana but Joe did in his memoir. And Lana never denied it.

by Anonymousreply 290March 26, 2024 12:50 AM

I think it’s creepy for Lorenzo to write about his father’s penis. Shirley Jones did that with her sons and it is so unseemly.

by Anonymousreply 291March 26, 2024 12:53 AM

r283 I've heard it was Barbara Stanwyck who told Loretta to go fuck herself.

by Anonymousreply 292March 26, 2024 1:00 AM

Lana and Joan.

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by Anonymousreply 293March 26, 2024 1:03 AM

Loretta wasn't much of an actress until later in her career, starting around 1946. She's far worse, in my opinion, than Fontaine in those audition reels. But, I still think she deserved her Oscar for The Farmer's Daughter. She great in it.

by Anonymousreply 294March 26, 2024 1:13 AM

My mom (not much of a Stanwyck fan to begin with) thought she was terrible in The Thorn Birds.

by Anonymousreply 295March 26, 2024 1:16 AM

I think a lot of people told Loretta to go fuck herself.

by Anonymousreply 296March 26, 2024 1:18 AM

I’m so sick of the “all the drinking and smoking aged her” posts. At east she had some fun.

by Anonymousreply 297March 26, 2024 1:18 AM

Stanwyck's performance in Thorn Birds was all about the dentures.

Also, Merman never worked with Loretta Young, so let's put that urban legend to rest, please.

by Anonymousreply 298March 26, 2024 1:19 AM

I met her in 1980 when she joined the cast of OH! CALCUTTA! onstage. I was surprised at how petite she was. She was friendly and a bit shy. Nice lady.

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by Anonymousreply 299March 26, 2024 1:19 AM

She looked like she was 100 in that picture

by Anonymousreply 300March 26, 2024 1:24 AM

Loretta’s dentures seemed like a problem in the TV movies she did as an old lady. She had a sort of whistle.

I used to watch reruns of her show around lunchtime (if I was home) because my mom would have it on. It sure showed her versatility (it was an anthology). Several stars tried it, including Stanwyck and Joseph Cotten, but Loretta’s show was the most successful.

by Anonymousreply 301March 26, 2024 1:26 AM

R301, Her “whistle” is evident here.

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by Anonymousreply 302March 26, 2024 1:29 AM

R302, Kudos to Loretta for navigating those stairs in heels.

by Anonymousreply 303March 26, 2024 1:30 AM

Ross Hunter had approached Lana's childhood idol, Kay Francis, about playing Lana's mother-in-law in "Madame X," even though Kay hadn't appeared on the silver screen for nearly 20 years. Kay was in poor health, however, and declined. The part went to Francis' movie queen rival and fellow style icon, Constance Bennett. Ironically, Kay outlived Connie by three years, succumbing to cancer in 1968.

I find it quite interesting how Kay and Connie were such big stars in their day but are now nearly forgotten, never even registering among the top 10 or 20 beloved classic films stars.

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by Anonymousreply 304March 26, 2024 1:31 AM

Geez, I think I know that guy on the right in the Oh Calcutta photo! I had no idea he was in it!

by Anonymousreply 305March 26, 2024 1:32 AM

Connie Bennett was offered the role of Lana's mother in law, promptly accepted, went out and had her face lifted and showed up looking the same age as Lana!

by Anonymousreply 306March 26, 2024 1:34 AM

R302 That was a lot better than this:

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by Anonymousreply 307March 26, 2024 1:39 AM

Well, hello!

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by Anonymousreply 308March 26, 2024 1:39 AM

Lana and Jane Wyman have a cig break on the Falcon Crest set.

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by Anonymousreply 309March 26, 2024 1:46 AM

Loretta aged really well.

by Anonymousreply 310March 26, 2024 1:48 AM

1982 must have been before the teeth bleaching craze.

by Anonymousreply 311March 26, 2024 1:52 AM

Cheryl was prettier than her mother. Bitch.

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by Anonymousreply 312March 26, 2024 1:55 AM

R33 She was really fucked up if she let her daughter take the rap for murder. She would make Mommie Dearest look like a saint.

by Anonymousreply 313March 26, 2024 1:57 AM

Lana on The Tonight Show with Joan Rivers

"You were always the high class tramp."

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by Anonymousreply 314March 26, 2024 2:06 AM

[quote]And now my father is standing there as if nothing is wrong, his corn dog sticking in my face as I try not to stare. “Hey, amigo,” he says, [italic]“you must be getting hungry.”[/italic]

What the holy hell?

by Anonymousreply 315March 26, 2024 2:46 AM

Loretta Young was absolutely gorgeous in the early 1930s in her pre-Code films. Utterly ethereal and very sexy. And she aged more gracefully than any of the other actresses mentioned in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 316March 26, 2024 2:58 AM

Loretta's good in Cause For Alarm!

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by Anonymousreply 317March 26, 2024 3:08 AM

Yeah Loretta was something else.

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by Anonymousreply 318March 26, 2024 3:24 AM

Loretta's Oscar gown...

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by Anonymousreply 319March 26, 2024 3:27 AM

Loretta gave herself a frau look way too soon though.

by Anonymousreply 320March 26, 2024 3:33 AM

Some of the comments here really are reinforcing my need to watch Madame X. It is one of Lana's later films (she only did a handful after it) but I've read here and elsewhere that it is her best performance. I've never seen it. She won the David di Donatello for it, which is pretty prestigious.

by Anonymousreply 321March 26, 2024 4:16 AM

Pauline Kael said Lana is Product X.

by Anonymousreply 322March 26, 2024 4:25 AM

I'll take drunk Marlene in bed in Paris anytime over Loretta.

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by Anonymousreply 323March 26, 2024 5:49 AM

Pauline Kael is irrelevant.

by Anonymousreply 324March 26, 2024 5:50 AM

Pauline Kael died eight days before 9/11.

by Anonymousreply 325March 26, 2024 5:55 AM

At least we know she didn’t do it.

by Anonymousreply 326March 26, 2024 7:00 AM

R319 Designed by her future husband, Jean Louis.

by Anonymousreply 327March 26, 2024 7:14 AM

^Who she married in 1993.

by Anonymousreply 328March 26, 2024 7:15 AM

After Lana’s final marriage (to another guy who misrepresented himself, was a con artist, and stole large sums of money from her) she said she was celibate for the rest of her life.

by Anonymousreply 329March 26, 2024 7:19 AM

R329, And am I grateful for that.

by Anonymousreply 330March 26, 2024 7:55 AM

R317 A really good underrate movie. Yes, Loretta is excellent in it, too.

by Anonymousreply 331March 26, 2024 10:46 AM

Couldn’t stand Loretta. Beautiful face,Myles, but mannered acting style. The director of SUEZ complained about her habit of making sure that her perfectly manicured hands were in every shot she took. When doing press for COME TO THE STABLE with Celeste Holm where they portrayed nuns, the reporter asked Celeste what nun she was playing and she deadpanned, “The one that’s slightly out of focus.”. Plus Loretta was a hypocrite. What actress said that every time Loretta committed a sin, she built a church, hence the proliferation of so many churches in Malibu?

by Anonymousreply 332March 26, 2024 12:32 PM

You know, I'd watch a movie told from the perspective of Lana's Vagina. It would be a long watch, but fun.

by Anonymousreply 333March 26, 2024 12:50 PM

Loretta is quite wonderful in Platinum Blonde and Zoo in Budapest when she was very young. Both are must sees for any movie buff. Zoo in Budapest is wild in every which way not only the animals but the plot turns. Enormous fun with some very beautiful photography. Gene Raymond plays interestingly enough a very contemporary animal rights activist.

Men wanted to fuck Lana but women loved her too. When she was doing 40 Carats shouldn't it have been called 60 Carats?

by Anonymousreply 334March 26, 2024 1:19 PM

R33 Good point, but I looked it up and she did it in 1971 when she was 50.

by Anonymousreply 335March 26, 2024 1:24 PM

I don’t think anyone who ever did 40 Carats was actually 40! June Allyson replaced the original star, Julie Harris, on Broadway, and she sure wasn’t 40.

by Anonymousreply 336March 26, 2024 1:26 PM

Liv Ullmann made the film version when she was 34.

by Anonymousreply 337March 26, 2024 1:29 PM

Lana I believe showed up to work on time. As opposed to Judy who would show up at 12 in the afternoon then claim she was wasn't feeling well and ended up spending the afternoon at the races. It cost her the Oscar which went to Grace Kelly. Even though people felt she deserved the Oscar they didn't want to give it to her.

Strangely Judy when she had her Palace engagements always showed up on time and gave it her best. She wanted to follow Angela in Mame on Broadway very badly. If given the chance with no matinees I wonder how many performances she would have shown up for. Martin and Preston had stopped doing matinees for I Do, I Do. Maybe Mame was just too big a show to take such a risk. As much as I like Janis Paige I just don't see her bringing the necessary star power to Mame. And then Jane Morgan?!!! At least Merrick got star wattage for Dolly.

by Anonymousreply 338March 26, 2024 1:38 PM

Anyone remember this TV mega bomb? So bad that you're lucky to find clips of Harold Robbins' "The Survivors." Looks like cheesy fun. Here's Lana at just 48, with eyelashes that weigh more than she does!

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by Anonymousreply 339March 26, 2024 2:31 PM

In these old movies, bitches just got slapped all the damned time.

by Anonymousreply 340March 26, 2024 3:13 PM

[quote]I don’t think anyone who ever did 40 Carats was actually 40! June Allyson replaced the original star, Julie Harris, on Broadway, and she sure wasn’t 40.

Ginger was doing it the same time as Lana and don't forget...Zsa Zsa.

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by Anonymousreply 341March 26, 2024 4:33 PM

Didn't they rename the play 40 Carats and a Stool (in my bladder pads!) when June Allyson took over the role?

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by Anonymousreply 343March 26, 2024 5:13 PM

I wish more bitches would get slapped today!

by Anonymousreply 344March 26, 2024 5:34 PM

Loretta is trying to take over this thread. I like Loretta. One of my faves of hers is The Accused. I love the Victor Young score but not the wet blanket leading man Robert Cummings.

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by Anonymousreply 345March 26, 2024 5:41 PM

When she was making "The Survivors," Lana infamously demanded a chauffered limousine to convey her to the nearby loo when necessary. When a reporter asked her about it, she said "Just because I'm doing television now is no reason for me to change my way of living and working."

The writer of a book about TV bombs referred decades later to Lana's "gold-plated bowels!"

by Anonymousreply 346March 26, 2024 5:45 PM

Bette Davis wrote about Lana in a limo to the loo in her memoir. She thought it was ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 347March 26, 2024 5:59 PM

Lana and Marlene at the Hollywood Canteen during WWII. You just know Marlene would've dived in to Lana's muschi in a second, had she had the chance.

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by Anonymousreply 348March 26, 2024 6:00 PM

and Deanna Durbin.

by Anonymousreply 349March 26, 2024 6:04 PM

I think Lana was feeling her oats again with the interest in her memoir and appearing on "Falcon Crest." Apparently, she forgot that it was 1982 and not 1952 at Metro! Her book tour was cut short because of her demands and sounds like the same of "Falcon Crest" with Jane Wyman. Lana was Joan to Jane's Lucy, when the former appeared on her show, and didn't put up with nonsense...

by Anonymousreply 350March 26, 2024 6:40 PM

Was she ever on What's My Line?

by Anonymousreply 351March 26, 2024 7:01 PM

We've done Miss Crawford, Lana, who is the next classic starlet due for a DL deep dive? This time, pick someone who is really messy.

by Anonymousreply 352March 26, 2024 9:03 PM

Joan and Lana were *not* starlets.

by Anonymousreply 353March 26, 2024 9:09 PM

Marjorie Main was a prolific actress during the 30's through the early 50's and co-starred in countless movies as a loud mouthed dowager type as well as everyone's favorite 'Ma Kettle' in a series of popular movies. Maybe not a glamorous star but well known and liked by many.

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by Anonymousreply 354March 26, 2024 9:16 PM

[quote]Joan and Lana were *not* starlets.

I know. I was just trying to be cute and failed.

by Anonymousreply 355March 26, 2024 9:21 PM

When did we start calling it the loo?

by Anonymousreply 356March 26, 2024 9:25 PM

R351 - Yes.

by Anonymousreply 357March 26, 2024 9:44 PM

Wasn't there a funny story Sue Mengers told about Constance Bennett as Lana's mother in Madame X, in which Bennett was constantly bugging Mengers about wanting better billing and insisting her name be outlined in a box in the credits? And then Bennett died not long after the film was made and at her funeral Mengers said: "Well, Connie finally got her box."

by Anonymousreply 358March 27, 2024 12:40 AM

I love that scene in The Bad and the Beautiful where Lana has won the Oscar and rushes over to Kirk Douglas's house to share her excitement when who should she find on the staircase in his home but the drop dead gorgeous Elaine Stewart who looks at her sneeringly and says cooly 'You're business, I'm company.' Of course Lana becomes hysterical and drives away and you can just imagine the Metro men shaking the car with the back screen making it look like she's driving the car wildly. You keep expecting a horrible car crash which never happens.

by Anonymousreply 359March 27, 2024 12:56 AM

[quote]Loretta is trying to take over this thread.

Get back, Loretta!

by Anonymousreply 360March 27, 2024 1:13 AM

One of the funniest things I've ever seen was the brilliant Everett Quinton in *Movieland*.

[quote]In "Movieland," Everett Quinton's expert, very funny one-man show presented by the Ridiculous Theatrical Company, he appears as Ruby Stevens, which also happens to have been the real name of Barbara Stanwyck. Mr. Quinton's Ruby is somebody quite other, a self-described former "male actress on the illegitimate stage." She has the only mildly disguised build and voice of, well, a man. "Not being very beautiful," she confides girlishly at the start of the show, "I had to be" (significant pause) "good." The line brings down the house, and Mr. Quinton is off and running.

[quote]"Movieland," which was directed by Eureka, ends its run next Sunday at the Charles Ludlum Theater. It's a frequently hilarious take on Hollywood's so-called golden age, written and acted by Mr. Quinton with the kind of rare discipline and control that elevates drag to theatrical art. The frame of the show is this (with no apologies to Scheherazade or "Kiss of the Spider Woman"): the aging Ruby, pursued by a voracious dragon that could be death, keeps the monster on the other side of her door by acting out the plots of a bunch of old movies, most successfully "The Spiral Staircase," "The 10 Commandments" and the Lana Turner version of "Madame X."

[quote]Mr. Quinton is far more than a mimic. He does imitate some of the actors whose roles he plays, including both Yul Brynner and Anne Baxter in a priceless give-and-take scene from "The 10 Commandments." More important, he evokes the sense of the performances and the effect such performances had (and possibly still have) on the audiences that adored them. As he moves around the stage, picking up, using and discarding props with the speed of light, he has the low-comedy grace of Groucho Marx and the timing of Jack Benny. He also possesses a sense of the absurd that embraces both highly sophisticated contemporary camp and the innocent comedy of "Charley's Aunt." He's a wizard.

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by Anonymousreply 361March 27, 2024 1:16 AM

In The Bad and the Beautiful, Lana is coming from the party following the successful premiere of The Faraway Mountain. She hasn’t won the Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 362March 27, 2024 1:22 AM

No, wait. Iit was another movie. But it was supposed to be her character’s first big movie.

by Anonymousreply 363March 27, 2024 1:24 AM

Love Meryl Streep as Madeline Ashton, in "Death Becomes Her," having her own hysterical rainy drive away from her cheating lover. Sees herself in the rear view and really screams... ha ha. A Hollywood homage for sure!

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by Anonymousreply 364March 27, 2024 1:27 AM

Kind of a little too much about Everett Quinton.

by Anonymousreply 365March 27, 2024 1:30 AM

I find men terribly exciting, and any girl who says she doesn't is an anemic old maid, a streetwalker, or a saint.

by Anonymousreply 366March 27, 2024 1:33 AM

R359 - see R184

by Anonymousreply 367March 27, 2024 1:33 AM

You *would* think so, r365.

by Anonymousreply 368March 27, 2024 1:37 AM

R368 I would? Why?

I just didn’t know why I was reading that long review, I expected it to be more relevant to the topic. Then at the very end we find out he did a take-off on Madame X, covered in one sentence.

by Anonymousreply 369March 27, 2024 1:40 AM

Joan Crawford wanted Lana's role in Peyton Place, but the studio thought she was too old.

The studio initially wanted Jane Wyman or Olivia de Havilland for the role, but it ended up going to Lana.

by Anonymousreply 370March 27, 2024 1:44 AM

I also heard they were thinking of Susan Hayward.

More and more I realize Olivia de Havilland’s reputation as a “great actress” is because of GWTW, Hold Back the Dawn, To Each His Own (maybe), The Snake Pit, and The Heiress. And that’s about it.

by Anonymousreply 371March 27, 2024 1:52 AM

99.99% of actresses would kill for Livvy's filmography.

by Anonymousreply 372March 27, 2024 1:54 AM

Her choice at the end of this is inexplicable

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by Anonymousreply 373March 27, 2024 1:56 AM

Exactly, r372, plus two Oscars.

by Anonymousreply 374March 27, 2024 1:56 AM

Have you ever SEEN To Each His Own?

by Anonymousreply 375March 27, 2024 2:01 AM

I love the list of Olivia's roles and then the ending "and that's about it". LOL.

by Anonymousreply 376March 27, 2024 2:07 AM

[quote]99.99% of actresses would kill for Livvy's filmography

Let's leave that cunt out of this. Awful, awful woman.

by Anonymousreply 377March 27, 2024 2:09 AM

Lana and Kirk Douglas played off each other well in The Bad and the Beautiful. I love that movie. Didn't they date for awhile after?

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by Anonymousreply 378March 27, 2024 2:17 AM

99.99% of actresses would kill for Livvy's filmography

Take a look at it and tell me what they’d kill for? Devotion? The Well Groomed Bride? The Ambassador’s Daughter? Lady In A Cage?

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by Anonymousreply 379March 27, 2024 2:23 AM

R378: She "dated" everyone. I think Yvonne DeCarlo was probably her only competition for "most dates" in those days.

by Anonymousreply 380March 27, 2024 11:40 AM

Livvy was also wonderful opposite Errol Flynn in so many films, especially as Lady Marian opposite his Robin Hood.

And if she'd done nothing but The Heiress she could be very proud indeed.

by Anonymousreply 381March 27, 2024 11:49 AM

Olivia was always coy about having slept with Errol Flynn.

But, come on . . .

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by Anonymousreply 382March 27, 2024 11:58 AM

[quote]In The Bad and the Beautiful, Lana is coming from the party following the successful premiere of The Faraway Mountain. She hasn’t won the Oscar.

Was that the year she lost to Lora Meredith?

by Anonymousreply 383March 27, 2024 12:27 PM

I find Olivia's performance in The Heiress a bit overrated. She's...fine, but nothing special. Sacrilege, I know.

by Anonymousreply 384March 27, 2024 2:35 PM

Olivia’s acting was stilted.

Her performance as Melanie in “GWTW” was amateurish.

by Anonymousreply 385March 27, 2024 3:50 PM

Joan Fontaine has entered the thread

by Anonymousreply 386March 27, 2024 3:55 PM

I always found Joan Fontaine to be a bit warmer onscreen than Olivia.

by Anonymousreply 387March 27, 2024 4:19 PM

R387, And Joan was a better actress.

by Anonymousreply 388March 27, 2024 4:34 PM

Not a fan of either one, although I do like Livvie in "Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte".

by Anonymousreply 389March 27, 2024 6:17 PM

Back to Lana Turner, here's a fun one where she's Lady a, a wealthy playgirl who wants to unchaste Indian doctor Richard Burton! Watch Lana chain smoke so much that another character even comments on it!

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by Anonymousreply 390March 27, 2024 7:42 PM

Lana's Lady a, her name got deleted... Playing the Myrna Loy role, with Burton filling in for Ty Power...

by Anonymousreply 391March 27, 2024 7:45 PM

‘The Rains of Ranchipur’ is a title that evokes glamour, intrigue, and colonialist disdain for extreme weather.

by Anonymousreply 392March 27, 2024 7:52 PM

And Richard Burton playing an Indian!

No kidding, he was supposed to be Indian.

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by Anonymousreply 393March 27, 2024 9:01 PM

[quote] [R283] I've heard it was Barbara Stanwyck who told Loretta to go fuck herself.

It was Eleanor Roosevelt.

by Anonymousreply 394March 27, 2024 9:07 PM

Can’t stand her.

by Anonymousreply 395March 27, 2024 9:15 PM

Madame X reunites Lana with Ricardo Montalban. He plays a swinging bachelor and they have a funny camp exchange.

Holly Parker: Why, you contemptible, rotten...

Phil Benton: Contemptible, rotten what? Never end on a dangling insult.

by Anonymousreply 396March 27, 2024 9:29 PM

I'm surprised the über ridiculous The Big Cube isn't more beloved on DL. It makes Valley of the Dolls look like Citizen Kane.

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by Anonymousreply 397March 27, 2024 10:28 PM

R390 Glad you appreciate The Rains of Ranchipur. I've not read the book or seen the earlier version "The Rains Came." Reading the synopsis it sounded like something I'd love but then the film itself left me cold. For two people famous IRL for having lots of sex, it astonished me how little chemistry Burton and Turner generated together. And the scene with Lana and the snake is shot so safely and without risk that it's hysterically funny, knowing she's acting her face off trying to react to nothing. The rainstorm is impressive for the SPFX of the time.

by Anonymousreply 398March 27, 2024 10:48 PM

To Each His Own was a makeup Oscar—it should have gone to Celia Johnson for Brief Encounter, one of the great, real film performances. Had voters known The Snake Oit and The Heiress were in the offing, they could have waited. I don’t The Snak Pit ages well, but she’s better than Jane @Mumbles” Wyman in Johnny Belinda Carlisle. And I do think her Catherine Sloper is matchless.

by Anonymousreply 399March 27, 2024 11:11 PM

Watch Lana in THE PRODIGAL. The ending is hysterical.

by Anonymousreply 400March 27, 2024 11:17 PM

I visited Lana Turner's childhood home in Wallace, Idaho a few years back (just saw it from the street). At the time, it was terribly overgrown and the outside was not well-maintained. The address was listed as one of the notable places int he town in a city guide I nabbed from a local museum or something. Wallace itself is a strange little former mining town tucked in a canyon in the Panhandle. It very much has a "lost in time" feel to it. I grew up driving by it many times while traveling to visit family members in Montana, so I've always been familiar with it, though I didn't know until many years later that it was glamour queen of the silver screen, Lana Turner's birthplace. Humble beginnings for certain.

by Anonymousreply 401March 28, 2024 12:10 AM

Why did man hungry Lana break off her engagement to Turhan Bey?

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by Anonymousreply 402March 28, 2024 12:18 AM

He went into the Army.

by Anonymousreply 403March 28, 2024 12:22 AM

Joseph L. Mankiewicz (one of Loretta's many lovers) said she told him once in the Fox studio commissary to put .50 cents in her idiotic swear/blasphemy box and he said he would give her $5 instead and tell her to go fuck herself. He also said she was "a rabid Paulist Catholic, the worst kind in the world."

by Anonymousreply 404March 28, 2024 12:57 AM

I didn't know that Lana's father was murdered. She was about 9 years old at the time.

From Wiki:

[quote]The Turner family struggled financially and relocated to San Francisco when she was six years old, after which her parents separated.[23] On December 14, 1930,[24] her father won some money at a traveling craps game; he stuffed his winnings in his sock and headed home, but was later found bludgeoned to death on the corner of Minnesota and Mariposa Streets, on the edge of San Francisco's Potrero Hill and the Dogpatch District, with his left shoe and sock missing.[21][25] His robbery and homicide were never solved,[21] and his death had a profound effect on Turner.[26] She later said, "I know that my father's sweetness and gaiety, his warmth and his tragedy, have never been far from me. That, and a sense of loss and of growing up too fast."[

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by Anonymousreply 405March 28, 2024 1:01 AM

R404 see R286

by Anonymousreply 406March 28, 2024 1:04 AM

Thanks. I missed that.

by Anonymousreply 407March 28, 2024 1:31 AM

Big time gang hitman Johnny Stompanato 𝙖𝙛𝙩𝙚𝙧

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by Anonymousreply 408March 28, 2024 1:44 AM

According to his autopsy, Stompanato died from a "single knife wound that penetrated his liver, portal vein and aorta, resulting in massive internal hemorrhaging." The fact that it was a single stab makes me think it actually was Cheryl who committed the murder. If it had been Lana, I imagine she'd have gone to town with the knife and slashed him to bits. Per the police account, Cheryl stabbed Stompanato, dropped the knife on a marble table, and immediately called her dad on the phone. To me, that tracks as a realistic series of actions for a 14-year-old in those circumstances.

by Anonymousreply 409March 28, 2024 1:49 AM

The Rains Came is a very good movie. (Myrna Loy plays Lana's part in it.) Tyrone Power, George Brent, Nigel Bruce, Maria Ouspenskaya, Joseph Schildkraut, Jane Darwell. Marjorie Rambeau, Brenda Joyce. The Rains Of Ranchipur is bad.

by Anonymousreply 410March 28, 2024 1:56 AM

Lnaa's most erotic role

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by Anonymousreply 411March 28, 2024 2:01 AM

The Sea Chase wasn't bad. Tab Hunter was in it, too.

by Anonymousreply 412March 28, 2024 2:15 AM

This thread is why I love DL. So many of you have such great knowledge of Classic Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 413March 28, 2024 3:18 AM

And so many of you have so many boring and unfunny conflicting stories about Loretta Young's swear jar.

by Anonymousreply 414March 28, 2024 3:23 AM

It's too bad the late Suzanne Somers (may she rest in peace) was blackballed by Hollywood after The 3's Company fiasco, as she really could have provent to be the "next Lana Turner". I would love to have seen her in The Postman Always Rings Twice or Ziegfield Girl, she would have been off the charts!

by Anonymousreply 415March 28, 2024 3:27 AM

r71 I have often found, at leat with the stars of the golden age of Hollywood, that searching out an actors lesser known films often uncovers some real gems that showcase some of the best or most enjoyable of their work.

by Anonymousreply 416March 28, 2024 7:01 AM

R408 After reading Cheryl Crane's autobiography, I do believe she stabbed Stompanato and wasn't covering for her mother.

She describes hearing her mother and Johnny fighting in her mom's bedroom, and it sounded violent, so she ran to the kitchen and grabbed a knife. She was holding it in front of her and was getting ready to walk in the room when Sompanato opened the door and literally walked onto the knife.

by Anonymousreply 417March 28, 2024 10:36 AM

Not for a second do I believe that Johnny walked into the knife. That’s absurd. But I do believe she was on high adrenaline because she was scared for her mother and it wasn’t intentional so much as reactive. You know, when someone is in fight or flight mode.

by Anonymousreply 418March 28, 2024 11:33 AM

Seems to me whichever way the door opened - inward or outward - he would have seen her first.

by Anonymousreply 419March 28, 2024 12:05 PM

R418, To create a wound so deep that several organs were affected would take more than Stompanato “walking” into the knife.

by Anonymousreply 420March 28, 2024 12:16 PM

[ R112 ] watched LOVE HAS MANY FACES on Apple TV last night and you were not kidding about hot stuff Hugh O' Brien in the yellow Speedo! Damn! That's Prime Grade "A" Beef! Lana told Joan Rivers she didn't fool around with her co stars but I'm not sure she could have kept her hands off! What a sexy cad! She certainly did smoke and drink her away through this sizzler! Lana knew how two work those stoles while drinking AND smoking. There's a talent to that!

by Anonymousreply 421March 28, 2024 1:16 PM

I had to look up Hugh O'Brien. Did Lana have him?

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by Anonymousreply 422March 28, 2024 1:22 PM

^ How many straight men would pose like that?

by Anonymousreply 423March 28, 2024 1:24 PM

R419 In her book, Cheryl Crane says Stompanato opened the door, but was looking behind him and yelling at Lana, so he didn't see her and walked onto the knife.

by Anonymousreply 424March 28, 2024 2:02 PM

R424, In order to sustain his injuries, either he was more than walking or she was in a stabbing mode.

by Anonymousreply 425March 28, 2024 2:15 PM

Cheryl was traumatized by witnessing his physical abuse of her mother. He had it coming. Threatening to kill Lana is she ever left him. He gave Lana a serious beating when they returned from the Oscars.

by Anonymousreply 426March 28, 2024 2:42 PM

R425 I recall her writing that he was storming out the door, so he must have been moving pretty quickly.

by Anonymousreply 427March 28, 2024 2:44 PM

I'll have Hugh for breakfast.

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by Anonymousreply 428March 28, 2024 2:54 PM

R428 I'd lick those nipples.

by Anonymousreply 429March 28, 2024 2:56 PM

So many actresses back then had boyfriends/husbands who were abusive assholes.

by Anonymousreply 430March 28, 2024 4:05 PM

Lana and Joan liked to get roughed up a bit by macho men. I think it turned them on.

by Anonymousreply 431March 28, 2024 4:13 PM

R431, So did Elizabeth Taylor, especially with Mike Todd.

by Anonymousreply 432March 28, 2024 4:18 PM

Ava and Liz also got roughed up by abusive beaux and husbands. Ava fought back, but Liz I think liked it.

by Anonymousreply 433March 28, 2024 4:18 PM

Zsa Zsa liked it rough with Rubirosa, who gave her a black eye.

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by Anonymousreply 434March 28, 2024 4:21 PM

Gary Merrill drank 24/7 and smacked Bette Davis around on a regular basis. Their 10-year marriage was insane. Back in those days domestic abuse wasn't really taken seriously, there were no laws etc.

In today's world a man who behaved like Gary Merrill did would be in prison.

by Anonymousreply 435March 28, 2024 4:31 PM

R435, I’ve read that Bette used to provoke Gary Merrill and former husband William Sherry, as well, to hit her.

by Anonymousreply 436March 28, 2024 4:38 PM

I have to admit I'd get a little hot being roughed up by Lex.

by Anonymousreply 437March 28, 2024 4:42 PM

Had Playboy started in 1943 than 1953 Lana would’ve challenged Pamela Anderson for the most covers and layouts.

by Anonymousreply 438March 28, 2024 5:22 PM

We learned to roll with the punches. They came left, right, and below the belt.

by Anonymousreply 439March 28, 2024 5:23 PM

It seems to be that Lana was getting beaten up more than others, maybe because she attracted to rough necks or something.

by Anonymousreply 440March 28, 2024 7:44 PM

Well, it looks easy until Jessica Chastain tried to do it and failed.

by Anonymousreply 441March 28, 2024 11:25 PM

You must be talking about that execrable THE HEIRESS Broadway revival. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Seriously, how do you fuck up a well-made play like?

by Anonymousreply 442March 28, 2024 11:29 PM

Yes, I am. Credit to Livvy & Cherry, the two that made it work.

by Anonymousreply 443March 28, 2024 11:30 PM

vivien leigh got beat up on the regular by Lex too.

by Anonymousreply 444March 29, 2024 12:17 AM

R442 Why no credit to Wendy Hiller, the original actress who played it on Broadway?

by Anonymousreply 445March 29, 2024 12:25 AM

Stompanato also had film of Lana (who was unconscious, I think, having been drugged) made to look like she was participating in a threesome. He was a real scumbag.

by Anonymousreply 446March 29, 2024 12:27 AM

Was Janet Leigh or Lana Turner the bigger star? Who do you think was prettier? Janet had the much better body.

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by Anonymousreply 447March 29, 2024 12:35 AM

Lana was bigger than Janet.

by Anonymousreply 448March 29, 2024 12:36 AM

Yes but Janet was prettier by a long shot.

by Anonymousreply 449March 29, 2024 12:38 AM

The scene that got Lana noticed.

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by Anonymousreply 450March 29, 2024 12:38 AM

What is the film where they had to do a few days' shooting of Lana in shadow because she was so roughed up?

by Anonymousreply 451March 29, 2024 1:11 AM

Just watch where that bullet bra points---that's where the trouble's gonna be.

by Anonymousreply 452March 29, 2024 1:40 AM

That's one thing about Joan, you never heard about men smacking her around.

by Anonymousreply 453March 29, 2024 2:07 AM

Why do people have to make every thread about JOAN?

by Anonymousreply 454March 29, 2024 2:15 AM

Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

by Anonymousreply 455March 29, 2024 2:20 AM

Was she named after Shirley Temple?

by Anonymousreply 456March 29, 2024 2:34 AM

I watched LOVE HAS MANY FACES again tonight and I must admit it was for Hugh more than Lana. The yellow Speedo, the red Speedo, the navy Speedo, the towel he wears in the scene with Ruth Roman, the cabana boy outfits. On most actors they would have looked just plain silly but Hugh can still give the boys what they want since decades later. Can AI recreate him for an Onlyfans account? I'm obsessed I tell you. OBSESSED!!

Lana does look a bit long in the tooth in this film. Edith Head designs some ultra glam short sets and sequined hostess ensembles for her to smoke and drink in and she does have a way with a stole and stacked wrist bangles.. Miss Turner definitely scores points for knowing how to work a costume. I'm lukewarm about Stephanie Powers and Cliff Robertson here but Ruth Roman almost steals the show in a fun supporting role as an American divorcée of a certain age on the prowl for Acapulco beach boys. I'm thinking that one of Lana's demands was that Miss Roman dressed as a tacky frump so as not to steal too much of the limelight.

By the way, Ruth is great in Nicholas Ray's BITTER VICTORY.

by Anonymousreply 457March 29, 2024 4:38 AM

Everything Cliff Robertson has done stinks. He's harder to watch than Glenn Ford.

by Anonymousreply 458March 29, 2024 4:41 AM

R451 - was it Another Time, Another Place?

by Anonymousreply 459March 29, 2024 4:55 AM

Ruth Roman must have really impressed Hitchcock. She was one of few brunettes to play a lead for him in STRANGERS ON A TRAIN.

by Anonymousreply 460March 29, 2024 10:41 AM

R459, Stompanato flew to London and got into a fistfight with Sean Connery on the set because he suspected Lana and Sean were fucking.

by Anonymousreply 461March 29, 2024 12:27 PM

R450 Quite big tits.

by Anonymousreply 462March 29, 2024 12:45 PM

. . .

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by Anonymousreply 463March 29, 2024 1:14 PM

[quote]Lana was bigger than Janet.

Lana may have been bigger at the time, but Janet won in the end. Janet will always be remembered and known by every new generation because of Psycho. Lana is forgotten today by younger generations.

by Anonymousreply 464March 29, 2024 2:11 PM

Robert Wagner wrote in his autobiography that Janet Leigh had the biggest tits in Hollywood.

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by Anonymousreply 465March 29, 2024 2:14 PM

R465 I think not

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by Anonymousreply 466March 29, 2024 3:38 PM

You honestly think millennials or gen z remember Janet Leigh or Psycho, R464?

by Anonymousreply 467March 29, 2024 3:48 PM

R467, “Psycho” is an iconic film, constantly being being rediscovered by new generations.

by Anonymousreply 468March 29, 2024 4:03 PM

Janet Leigh wore a 34C size bra.

Jayne Mansfield wore a 36D size bra.

by Anonymousreply 469March 29, 2024 4:10 PM

Janet Leigh didn't even have the biggest tits at MGM

by Anonymousreply 470March 29, 2024 6:39 PM

Kathryn Grayson had really big breastuses

by Anonymousreply 471March 29, 2024 7:32 PM

She ripped more than a few bodice seams in her day, r471.

by Anonymousreply 472March 29, 2024 7:35 PM

R460 I seem to have read that Hitchcock was not pleased with Ruth Roman and she was forced upon by him by Warners.

by Anonymousreply 473March 29, 2024 7:41 PM

R472 39 inches of titties

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by Anonymousreply 474March 29, 2024 7:45 PM

Unfortunately Kathryn later had a waist size to match her tit size.

by Anonymousreply 475March 29, 2024 8:16 PM

[Quote] You honestly think millennials or gen z remember Janet Leigh or Psycho

Quite honestly yes R467

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by Anonymousreply 476March 29, 2024 8:24 PM

Re Vertigo: Alfred Hitchcock originally wanted to cast Lana Turner in the lead role, but she "wanted too much loot" and was dropped from consideration. (IMDB)

by Anonymousreply 477March 29, 2024 8:30 PM

By the time Hitchcock started working on Psycho, he was one of the most famous filmmakers in the world. According to WhatCulture, the shortlist for the role of Marion Crane was pretty long: Angie Dickinson, Piper Laurie, Hope Lange, Shirley Jones, Eva Marie Saint, and Lana Turner were all considered.

by Anonymousreply 478March 29, 2024 8:33 PM

“When Rex Reed interviewed Ava Gardner many years ago, she had this to say about working with her in ​Show Boat. I remember the interview almost verbatim: "And Kathryn Grayson? She had the biggest boobs in Hollywood.“

by Anonymousreply 479March 29, 2024 9:54 PM

Victor Mature had the biggest jugs in pictures.

by Anonymousreply 480March 30, 2024 2:46 AM

Say what you want about her, but that bitch could rock a turban!

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by Anonymousreply 481March 30, 2024 2:47 AM

Jane Russell hasn't even been mentioned in a discussion of Hollywood boobs?

by Anonymousreply 482March 30, 2024 2:59 AM

Looks like it oughta have a highball around it

by Anonymousreply 483March 30, 2024 3:41 AM

[quote]Victor Mature had the biggest jugs in pictures.

Not to mention...

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by Anonymousreply 484March 30, 2024 3:50 AM

Speaking of Jane Russell - a hilarious interview of JR by our Joan Rivers!

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by Anonymousreply 485March 30, 2024 10:48 AM

I just can't get emotionally attached to her. She always has this mean look on her face and seems really icy, and that's not my jam.

by Anonymousreply 486March 30, 2024 11:06 AM

I’ve read that Lana’s periods were so painful that she would be unavailable to film for a day or two each month.

by Anonymousreply 487March 30, 2024 11:11 AM

R486 That's hardly the standard perception of Lana.

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by Anonymousreply 488March 30, 2024 5:27 PM

Around 5:20...

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by Anonymousreply 489March 30, 2024 5:32 PM

You know, it’s just possible that the studio system was a bit stressful for Lana too.

by Anonymousreply 490March 30, 2024 8:29 PM

Let’s get this baby to 600 replies

by Anonymousreply 491March 30, 2024 8:33 PM

She was pretty, but she had no butt whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 492March 30, 2024 8:39 PM

Doris Day had a butt.

by Anonymousreply 493March 30, 2024 8:45 PM

Lana does the hula in Bachelor in Paradise (1961).

Wide screen isn't great for capturing dance moves.

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by Anonymousreply 494March 30, 2024 9:11 PM

Shelley Winters had a butt. (Hamburger Helper to get the thread to 600).

by Anonymousreply 495March 30, 2024 9:12 PM

And people saying Lana didn't look good at 40 are crazy.

by Anonymousreply 496March 30, 2024 9:13 PM

Here's Lana doing her best with her pal Judy Garland's number from Ziegfeld Follies

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by Anonymousreply 498March 30, 2024 9:16 PM

r497 - Oh honey, that number cries out for taps!

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by Anonymousreply 499March 30, 2024 9:25 PM

When Lana was a brunette ---- I don't know wtf she was thinking.

by Anonymousreply 500March 30, 2024 10:19 PM

Brunettes don't think.

by Anonymousreply 501March 30, 2024 10:20 PM

Ann Miller doing that number makes no sense. She WAS known for her torso.

by Anonymousreply 502March 30, 2024 10:27 PM

Lana WAS a brunette. The blonde was a dye job.

by Anonymousreply 503March 30, 2024 10:28 PM

I bet she liked anal while playing with her clit.

by Anonymousreply 504March 30, 2024 10:58 PM

Her nickname was Lana Banana.

by Anonymousreply 505March 30, 2024 10:59 PM

[quote] Robert Wagner wrote in his autobiography that Janet Leigh had the biggest tits in Hollywood.

John Wayne got to confirm that as well as any 50s costar could and still get the movie released

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by Anonymousreply 506March 30, 2024 11:33 PM

I don't know if it was natural but before she was blonde Lana was a redhead.

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by Anonymousreply 507March 31, 2024 6:31 AM

Lana said the public (when she met them) often mixed her up with Betty Grable.

by Anonymousreply 508March 31, 2024 6:33 AM

[quote]This thread is why I love DL. So many of you have such great knowledge of Classic Hollywood.

The same here, I love these threads.

by Anonymousreply 509April 1, 2024 6:38 AM

R508, And Lana would always correct them by saying, "No, I'm Lana, I'm the one who was in The Postman Always Rigns Twice. Betty Grable is the one who had to have a used condom pulled out of her downtown Suzie by her OB/GYN because the odor was so bad..."

by Anonymousreply 510April 1, 2024 6:49 AM

My late aunt, born in 1929, was most complimented when I once told her she brought to mind Lana Turner.

by Anonymousreply 511April 1, 2024 7:00 AM

No one has mentioned By Love Possessed (1961), have they? It had a large amount of filming done in Pepperell and Groton, MA (and in Fitchburg, as well - such as the main title sequence). Lana was kind of more somnambulistic than usual and was part of an ensemble cast that had her married to Jason Robards and having an affair with Barbara Bel Geddes' husband, Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. George Hamilton (son of Barbara and Efrem) was also cheating on his sort-of girlfriend, Susan Kohner, with the local tramp, who I think was Yvonne Craig.

by Anonymousreply 512April 2, 2024 12:42 PM

^I remember a scene with Lana riding a horse at the gallop.

by Anonymousreply 513April 2, 2024 12:43 PM

Was she a good rider?

by Anonymousreply 514April 2, 2024 1:01 PM

R512: If Efrem Zimbalist Jr is in it, you know it's got to be a stinker. Zimbalist could easily give anyone competition for being somnambulistic.

by Anonymousreply 515April 2, 2024 3:12 PM

R515 It was a somewhat quiet, serious drama (I think directed by John Sturges) not a florid Douglas Sirk melodrama. It was okay, not a stinker. Zimbalist was part of the ensemble, as was Lana. Nobody's role really carried the picture. I agree Zimbalist was always dull.

by Anonymousreply 516April 2, 2024 3:21 PM

“Portrait in Black” is a real guilty pleasure.

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by Anonymousreply 518April 2, 2024 3:24 PM

A lot of these movies were on TV when I was a kid. I liked Portrait in Black, then seeing it years later I thought it was awful. I also liked Madame X but was confused as a kid as to why Lana's mother-in-law looked the same age as her (discussed above). You couldn't use the internet to look up ages, and I had no idea who Constance Bennet even was. The other movie I remember was a comedy with Dean Martin, Who's Got The Action? that I don't think has been seen in years, and Bachelor In Paradise, with Bob Hope, which I still find funny (and a time capsule of the early 60s in the San Fernando Valley).

by Anonymousreply 519April 2, 2024 3:28 PM

One of my favorite Lana movies is Slightly Dangerous. It's a lot of fun. She was always better if she didn't have to act so much.

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by Anonymousreply 520April 2, 2024 4:19 PM

Lana Turner was GLAMOUR, bitches. She was a Golden Age of Hollywood MOVIE STAR right to the very end and she never disappointed.

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by Anonymousreply 521April 2, 2024 5:03 PM

R521 I'm the poster upthread who claimed that Turner had a face that melted and was generic and uninteresting, not memorable. But I do think she had glamour in her later years. In terms of relative physical beauty, her last decades were her best.

by Anonymousreply 522April 2, 2024 5:30 PM

An earlier performance from Lana that I've always liked is in the 1941 version of "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" with Spencer Tracy and Ingrid Bergman. People seem to be divided on that film, but I've always been a fan. I love the hallucination sequence.

Apparently Ingrid and Lana were originally cast in the opposite roles, but Bergman wanted the more challenging one and the producers agreed to switch them. I read somewhere that director Victor Fleming struggled getting the performances he wanted out of them both, and actually slapped them in the face to make them cry realistically.

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by Anonymousreply 523April 3, 2024 2:39 AM

[quote]Lana Turner?

If Lana Turner is the question, what's the answer?

by Anonymousreply 524April 3, 2024 3:08 AM

One of my friends always referred to her as Lahner Turner.

by Anonymousreply 525April 3, 2024 5:33 PM

Never heard of her.

by Anonymousreply 526April 3, 2024 9:29 PM

[quote]One of my friends always referred to her as Lahner Turner.

Was the friend from the Boston area, by any chance?

by Anonymousreply 527April 3, 2024 10:19 PM

[quote]Never heard of her.

Your ignorance is fascinating. Thank you for sharing it with us. Please keep us updated by letting us know about all the other DL subjects you know nothing about.

by Anonymousreply 528April 3, 2024 10:21 PM

r512 - Yvonne Craig was the quintessential starlet.

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by Anonymousreply 529April 3, 2024 10:25 PM

Take your meds, r528.

by Anonymousreply 530April 3, 2024 10:39 PM

Her breasts were always strong, raised, proud and confident!

by Anonymousreply 531April 3, 2024 11:57 PM

I taught her how to ice them, R531.

by Anonymousreply 532April 4, 2024 12:00 AM

Female Warren Beatty- good looking, some good films, highly sexed.

by Anonymousreply 533April 4, 2024 12:26 AM

Lana loved a big stiff dick and she made no apologies for it.

And she got a lot of hot dick in her life.

by Anonymousreply 534April 4, 2024 12:28 AM

I keep reading how Lana loved big dicks but I have no idea where people are getting this info. She liked men. Maybe dick size wasn't important to her.

by Anonymousreply 535April 4, 2024 12:41 AM

Barker and Stompanato were both known for their endowments, r535.

by Anonymousreply 536April 4, 2024 12:47 AM

R536 So therefore all the many men she liked had big dicks.

by Anonymousreply 537April 4, 2024 12:48 AM

R537 Fernando Lamas, Ricardo Montalban...also two big-cocked studs Lana engulfed with her mouth and twat.

by Anonymousreply 538April 4, 2024 12:59 AM

And her asshole

by Anonymousreply 539April 4, 2024 1:01 AM

R538 Montalban was famously faithful to his wife (Loretta Young's sister).

by Anonymousreply 540April 4, 2024 1:49 AM

Supposedly Lana was very unhappy with the casting of John Garfield opposite her in THE POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE. Did she ever talk about him in any interviews?

by Anonymousreply 541April 4, 2024 2:19 AM

R541 Oh, I think she got over that...

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by Anonymousreply 542April 4, 2024 2:25 AM

Well, I wondered if the disappointment was before she met Garfield.

by Anonymousreply 543April 4, 2024 2:40 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if she took a roll in the hay with Uncle Milte.

by Anonymousreply 544April 4, 2024 2:54 AM

R527 No, Long Island.

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