Muscle Dysmorphia in Young Men

Yes. And?

And...they must have very tiny dicks. No ?

And it’s incredibly unhealthy, R1.

I laugh at them because I build muscle easily.

R3 I don't disagree. I was just wondering what the OP intended as the angle for the thread discussion.

[quote] Muscle Dysmorphia in Young Men These guys are spending their entire lives in the gym. Five, six, seven days a week, lifting weights for hours. Nothing else matters to them.

So, what about this situation are we supposed to be discussing here? That this happens among a lot of young guys is far from news to the DL audience.

R4 = George Santos.

Let's also not forget all the drugs that they have to take

Boobies!

So healthy.

Most people don’t realise what it takes to have the kinds of bodies that we see in adverts, movies etc - drugs, exercise, diet. Teenagers are looking at Chris Hemsworth and think that’ll happen if they lift some weights a few times a week. It’s HGH and a million dollars of personal training and live in chefs.

Those nips look angry.

I’ll pearl clutch all the way to 4PM supper, but social media and peer pressure certainly don’t help. Orthorexia and body dysmorphia is no way to live.

[QUOTE] So, what about this situation are we supposed to be discussing here?

We’re shedding light on the situation. I don’t think people understand how bad it is.

Moobs!

R6 is Donald Trump.

I don't see any major issue as long as they're not taking steroids.

It's not massively healthy, but I'm sure most will get over it once they hit a certain age or get bored.

I agree that social media has somewhat led to this. A lot of muscle guys on YouTube do it for a living, so a couple of hours a day in the gym is fine to them, as it's still less than they'd spend in an office if they had a professional job.

Well as long as they'll let me ogle them at the gym, I'm down with it.

Body dysphoria is a common condition among people with high functioning autism.

As I have said before, this population is skyrocketing because first Boomers, then Gen Xers, and now millennials, are waiting to have their first children, some even until after 40. Humans are optimized to have their children between late teenage years and 30.

The ASD/ADHD (“spectrum”) population will reach 20-30% by the end of the century.

This may actually have a beneficial effect because Spectrum people are less likely to reproduce, thus helping curb overpopulation.

Something I’ve noticed is the obsession with “gains”. I’ve seen plenty of guys who reach what I consider a good physique, maybe the “fit fat” look, but they just keep going until they’re all bulging veins. It’s like they can’t stop.

Additionally, what OP says - spending five/six hours a day in the gym - is called “hyperfocus.” Very common facet of high functioning autism.

Working out is a very isolating activity, ideally suited for high functioning autism.

The loneliness. The isolation. That would certainly make sense.

It is one of many afflictions the youngest generation must deal with. Hardly the worst. Young men also aren't graduating from university in equal % to women, they are increasingly politically and socially conservative, and they lack skills for intimacy.

On the up side, they have big pulpy lips and long veiny cocks.

The bodybuilding villain from “Red Dragon” was coded autistic.

I bet if you went and looked at a lot of bodybuilding characters in film, you would find a lot of autism coded characteristics. The cliche is always aloof, oddly sexless despite their desirability.

The largely forgotten comic and film series Lil Abner was about a hillbilly adonis who was chased by women but not interested in sex.

Hiding in plain sight all along.

Weight lifting is addictive as it produces “endolphins” (Welcome to our House).

Seriously, a full workout floods me with a sense of wellbeing and lowers my anxiety. However, it takes more weight and more time to achieve less peace of mind.

The need for gains, feelings of impotence and petty jealousies are mind games that serve the addiction.

Additionally, what OP says - spending five/six hours a day in the gym - is called “hyperfocus.”

It’s also called being Italian on Staten Island

I have no issues with young men who work hard to keep their bodies fit and muscular naturally. But just how many do that? The ones who live on anabolic steroids (almost always gotten illegally) are the ones to be frightened for. Yes, those bodies may be hot and sexy, but when their hearts give out before they even reach 40 it's hard to be impressed with how they look.

I've linked a video about a muscle guy who admits he has body dysmorphia.

In some ways I can kind of get it, because he has really big arms and clearly works out a lot, but he doesn't have the classic defined abs you see on a lot of muscled guys. I know light and angles play a big role in those sort of photos, though.

What is it about DL where you can't get three responses into a thread about ANYTHING, Biden's age, a Bewitched reboot, what Zendaya wore to a movie premiere, Andy Cohen fighting with a Real Housewife, or what to bring to a Super Bowl party before autism comes up? You bitches are nutso.

I saw an interview done with a massive bodybuilder many years back. The guy admitted he did what he did because he wanted to be freakishly huge. He was asked if there was an ultimate goal for how big he wanted to get and he readily said "there is no limit, I want to get as huge as humanly possible, no matter what".

Muscle dysmorphic syndrome is a mental illness that no one seems to care about treating.

You can build all the muscle you want, but you’re still stuck with that dick.

They go through all that hard work to get that thing that looks like an open wound caused by the explosion of a taliban’s bomb down there. How sad and pathetic.

[quote]The bodybuilding villain from “Red Dragon” was coded autistic.

Autistic people don’t work out.

R17 is why the towel dance was invented.

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Had to slip that in huh

r32 Has never even seen the interior of a gym in his entire life.

[quote]As I have said before, this population is skyrocketing because first Boomers, then Gen Xers, and now millennials, are waiting to have their first children, some even until after 40.

I tuned 60 a few months ago. I have to say, a few years ago I was shocked to hear friends of mine in their mid / late 50s becoming a dad for the first time. (Now when I hear it, the shock is over as it's become so common).

Activities that require staring blankly into space for hours while performing incredible repetitive motions:

Coding

Playing video games

Bodybuilding

Protein shake farts.

r37 My grandpa was 72 when my Mom was born.

[QUOTE]Muscle dysmorphic syndrome is a mental illness that no one seems to care about treating.

Because we’re talking about young men. The issue would get far more attention if women were the victims.

Jesus Christ, the Aspie Accuser needs to be shot with a bazooka

R41 our society hates men, regardless of how much women play victim

I would rather see somebody with muscle dysmorphia then gender dysmorphia.

[quote]Young men also aren't graduating from university in equal % to women, they are increasingly politically and socially conservative, and they lack skills for intimacy.

I see this more and more every day. It's very sad, IMO. They spend so much time working on their looks and physique, but not their social skills. They live in a silo (hardly any close friends or family members), and have no intimacy with either men or women. They're only 'admired' from onlookers and oglers. I guess that's fine with them.

R40 Thanks for sharing. I'm interested to know how that worked out ? How long was he in her life ?

[quote] Because we’re talking about young men. The issue would get far more attention if women were the victims.

Female body image used to be a big concern. Remember TLC’s Unpretty? Remember when Kate Winslet was airbrushed slightly to make her thinner for a magazine cover?

But it’s totally turned around and body modification is empowering. The girls with fake tits, nose jobs and tiny waists are celebrated. Airbrushing has been replaced by filters.

[quote]They spend so much time working on their looks and physique, but not their social skills. They live in a silo (hardly any close friends or family members), and have no intimacy with either men or women. They're only 'admired' from onlookers and oglers. I guess that's fine with them.

You just described Aspergers Syndrome.

The child in R21 needs to spend some hyperfocus energy cleaning his cumshot off that mirror!

The shelved Jonathan Majors film Magazine Dreams was about a spectrum-coded bodybuilder.

[QUOTE]They spend so much time working on their looks and physique, but not their social skills. They live in a silo (hardly any close friends or family members), and have no intimacy with either men or women.

The loneliness is evident.

Ah, the eternal sour grapes of ugly unfuckable olds.

Hot young muscular men won’t fuck uggo grandpas, so the hotties MUST be autistic, lonely and socially isolated people.

Half the appeal of Datalounge, for those with a cruel sense of humor, is threads like this

[quote]Hot young muscular men won’t fuck uggo grandpas, so the hotties MUST be autistic, lonely and socially isolated people.

Struggling with comprehension, once again ?

Read the thread - they won't fuck anybody, and they're in the sexual prime of their lives.

Yep…you’ve revealed yourself completely r53

The hotties are fucking other hotties

You’re sexually irrelevant to them

As long as their willing to do the work and post pictures of themselves, what's to complain about?

[quote][R41] our society hates men, regardless of how much women play victim

Oh please, women are the victims of crimes perpetrated by men. Women committing crimes against men is much lower than vice-versa.

R55, it's a pathology that someone has on this site. There's one poster who can't admit that he seeks out pictures of bodybuilders in their late teens and early twenties as wank material, so he posts their thirst traps in order to feign concern for them. This time it's that these young men are so hyper-focused and isolated.

Won't somebody think of the poor, lonely Adonises?

Based on the amount of neg threads and comments on DL it’s safe to say that working out in the gym many hours each week is bad while bareback orgies are not so bad.

[quote]Oh please, women are the victims of crimes perpetrated by men. Women committing crimes against men is much lower than vice-versa.

As a side note, crime has seemed to increase in certain areas of my city over the past few years. Woman on woman crimes are definitely on the rise - violent crimes of beating each other, robbery, and murder. I have a feeling it's like this in other cities across the country, too.

[quote]The shelved Jonathan Majors film Magazine Dreams was about a spectrum-coded bodybuilder.

About that guy who worked in the mannequin factory that everyone constantly mistook for the product?

R18 Autism Troll do yourself and us a favor..

[QUOTE]Won't somebody think of the poor, lonely Adonises?

Way to trivialize a tragic situation. Just because they’re attractive, in your eyes, means they’re immune from suffering. I’ve got news for you, R57: some of the most beautiful people around the world commit suicide every day.

[quote] Boobies!

r8 Thank you. The first thought which popped in my mind when I saw the guy in the OP is "boobs". That's not what I want to think about in a man.

Maybe we should note that WOMEN have been fucking plagued by anorexia body dysmorohia bulimia SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME

At last a few items dribble out about MEN and their suffering …. Maybe it’s worth mentioning so we can have a little more EMPATHY for women

How many threads … Janet Jackson Amy Schumer … fucking everyone !!!! They’re too thin they’re too fat they have too much muscle not enough muscle … I’m disgusted with you all

[quote] some of the most beautiful people around the world commit suicide every day.

MARY R62

Oh, fuck off, OP/R62. Of course young, attractive people can have problems. But that's not the point. The point is that you have one.

No one believes you're genuinely concerned about them. No one believes that you're looking at the firm pecs and tight abs featured in those pictures and thinking about how tragic these young men's lives must be. You just concocted a transparent and, it must be noted, completely unnecessary excuse to post thirst traps of young hot guys.

So spare the sanctimony and just jerk off to those pictures of young hunks without pretending you're a crusader for their mental and physical well-being.

What I don't get is that most women's standards for a man's body are so low to begin with, surely there's no overwhelming advantage to having a killer body just to get laid. So in my mind these guys are doing it for the admiration from other guys, which is weird unless you're trying to score dick.

Agreed. They’re not doing it for women. No woman is asking their boyfriend or husband to spend hours in the gym everyday so they can look like this:

[quote] a crusader for their mental and physical well-being

Yes…that is what the OP, in his tragic dementia ridden mind, hoped to offer the young hotties. He desperately hopes to find just ONE young muscular man with emotional problems or the holy grail, autism, that will put the OP in a position of power over this hot young man. Because the OP rightly believes that no young muscular man will touch him with a 10 foot barge pole.

It’s fucking delightful . We all know that the OP is vastly pathetic. It’s one the reasons that I read DL.

Being in the gym hours per day is definitely not the worst thing happening to human beings.

[quote] Hot young muscular men won’t fuck uggo grandpas, so the hotties MUST be autistic, lonely and socially isolated people.

r52 The truth is in the middle. The muscle bound hotties are having lots of sex. But the old guys who are jealous get laid too.

[quote] So in my mind these guys are doing it for the admiration from other guys, which is weird unless you're trying to score dick.

I always thought it was more of a competitive nature between men.

How dare you accuse me of being mentally ill! I am the picture of mental health and femininity.

Now with that said, CALL ME MENTALLY ILL AGAIN AND I'LL CUT YOUR FUCKING DICK OFF WITH A RUSTY RAZOR, AND SHOVE IT DOWN YOUR THROAT.

Excuse me, but I have another round of steroids I'm due for.

Just like everything else, "everything in moderation," otherwise it could be a sign that there's some other problem not being addressed.

Channel 4 UK did an episode in their UNTOLD documentary series last October on the subject called, "Obsessed with My Muscles." Besides body or muscle dysmorphia, It's being referred to as "bigorexia." There are guys who can't think about anything else, and just like any addiction or obsessive compulsive disorder, it begins to affect other aspects of their lives, including relationships. It's no different from other forms of body dysmorphia: guys who have it, look in the mirror and don't see the same thing others do. They see flaws in their body. Some have sought surgery to correct things. Some are suicidal. As for sex, one guy explained that when he's with a girl, he finds himself not in the moment with her, but thinking about how his body isn't good enough.

Thanks R74, that does honestly make me feel better about being an old, fat whore who doesn’t even try to have sex any more. Humanity’s long train of collective desire and suffering rolls on with new passengers.

Maybe if they got a job they'd spend less time in the gym? Seems you can't do both.

Work isn't a four-letter word.

[QUOTE] As for sex, one guy explained that when he's with a girl, he finds himself not in the moment with her, but thinking about how his body isn't good enough.

No matter where they are or what they’re doing, their bodies are all they can think about.

What kind of dysmorphia is it when you can't tell the difference between a muscular pectoral and a flabby boob?

[quote]Maybe if they got a job they'd spend less time in the gym? Seems you can't do both.

Wanna bet ?

I have a young neighbor who started going to the gym with his older friend when he was 17 (his friend was 18, so he had him go as a 'guest' until my neighbor was old enough to sign his own gym contract). By the time he turned 18, he really 'bulked up' (and his mother told me he was on a special high protein diet she cooked for him ). He became totally focused on this during his senior year in high school, and put off going to college (even though he was a straight A student).

Eventually, he got a job at the gym full time, so he could ditch his membership. It was his first job ever - talking people into signing up for expensive plans. He's almost 22 now, completely muscled, strikingly handsome - and spends all his time at the gym. When he's not working ( these days as a Personal Trainer), he's doing his workout. He has no social life at all, still lives at home with his 50 year old single mom. (His mother doesn't think there's anything wrong with this - he's doing what he enjoys, and making money doing it.) This is his life.

So if he's happy with it, and his mother is, too, why do you care?

R80 Where did I say I cared ?

OK. I don't care either. I can't live his life for him, and I don't want him living mine for me.

[QUOTE] Eventually, he got a job at the gym full time, so he could ditch his membership. It was his first job ever - talking people into signing up for expensive plans. He's almost 22 now, completely muscled, strikingly handsome - and spends all his time at the gym. When he's not working ( these days as a Personal Trainer), he's doing his workout. He has no social life at all

You can’t take time off when you’re building and maintaining these physiques. If you slow down, you start looking regular—less sinewy, less massive. The way normal people who exercise appear. And they can’t stand that. To them, normalcy is failure.

[quote] To them, normalcy is failure.

MARY

[quote] He became totally focused on this during his senior year in high school, and put off going to college (even though he was a straight A student).

People with Asperger’s Syndrome tend to be intelligent and good at taking tests.

R79 please post his socials

This notorious musical number features a room full of bodybuilders ignoring Jane Russell.

I think there’s too much focus on Asperger’s Syndrome here. It can’t all be boiled down to that single disorder. There are other issues at play.

I think the Asperger's obsessed poster(s) might also be stricken with the syndrome. JFC. Every fucking thread...ASPERGER'S.

I'm not surprised that so may young men have body dysmorphia. Between all the focus on image perfection on Instagram and the steroids so many take to enhance their muscles, impressionable guys are left with the impression that being built and ripped is what is required to fit into society.

R90

That is generally what is so bad about the gym and those muscle obsessed and what is great about DL and hanging out and conversing with gay men who are not all concerned about youth and looks and well youth and looks and youth and looks. None are the obsessed body types constantly complaining about flabby skin, getting fat, going bald, wrinkles etc.

We are so beyond that at DL just stay out of the gym

R89 not that idiot R90

Sorry

Wow r88 I can’t believe an Aspie showed up in a thread about body dysphoria. Soon before you know it you’re going to be seeing them in threads about hypochondria, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, statistics and Stanley Kubrick.

[QUOTE]Between all the focus on image perfection on Instagram and the steroids so many take to enhance their muscles, impressionable guys are left with the impression that being built and ripped is what is required to fit into society.

I’m not sure if they want to fit into society. If anything it feels like the opposite. It’s almost like they’re proud to be outcasts.

Some of them do it to fit into the fitness bro community. Others do it to be the top dog on social media and therefore in their minds setting the goal for others.

This thread is hilarious

R95 It's a knee slapper.

[QUOTE] Some of them do it to fit into the fitness bro community. Others do it to be the top dog on social media and therefore in their minds setting the goal for others.

That was my point, R94. The fitness bro community is nothing like normal society.

r1 = Ariana Grande.

[QUOTE]The buff body look is back, thanks to TikTok and other social media sites. But it's bringing with it an unfortunate mental health consequence for men and teenage boys.

[QUOTE]It's called "bigorexia," or muscle dysmorphia, and it's warping the way men see themselves as well as their self-esteem around their bodies. The ramifications of it can include depression, anxiety, social isolation, over-exercising and steroid abuse.

[QUOTE]"It used to be you would go and watch a movie and there would be a big action star or something along those lines. Then you would go and hang out the rest of the day with people who had normal bodies," says Joseph Trunzo, a licensed clinical psychologist and a psychology professor at Bryant University. "But now we've got these little things that we carry around with us all day, every day, constantly feeding us messages and images about what we're supposed to look like. ... You can very quickly develop a distortion for what a healthy normal body is."

Does it get them laid?

I doubt it, R100. Women aren’t interested in guys who spend all of their free time in a gym.

It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again.

And it stays on its stomach when I fuck it because no one needs those pathetic eyeballs.

[QUOTE] And it stays on its stomach when I fuck it because no one needs those pathetic eyeballs.

?

crisis in masculinity, etc etc etc

I dated a guy who was obsessed with the gym and working out. Granted, he was hot as hell and his body was unbelievable and initially I thought I hit the jackpot. Going out to dinner with him was an embarrassing nightmare because of his food requirements and restrictions - zero joy in eating. It was horrible to go out or just be with him because literally all he talked about was his body, working out, and his obnoxious eating habits. Finally I had enough and broke it off. I haven’t been attracted to guys like that since, they aren’t worth it.

That’s why they’re so lonely. Obsession is isolating.

I recall reading about a couple of gay porn stars that have body dysmorphia. These are not guys who are body builders, but who have naturally great bodies, and have 9-10 bodies if you were to rate them. I believe seeing all these gym bunnies who hit the weights everyday and take Creatine and steroids, the others are going to believe their bodies are substandard.

It’s especially unhealthy when they have big dongs that OP should be posting pics of otherwise let them die out. The big dong percentage goes up that way and more people on average are satisfied properly.

Ding Dong.

Ritzy titsy, as my mother used to say.

[QUOTE] It’s especially unhealthy when they have big dongs that OP should be posting pics of otherwise let them die out. The big dong percentage goes up that way and more people on average are satisfied properly.

This is not the thread for that, R109.

The dongs are big?

I always wonder who they're doing it for. Surely it's not to attract a partner because they spend most of their spare time in the gym so they don't seem interested in maintaining a relationship.

Obviously I'm not criticising anyone for going to the gym - but when you're going 5 - 7 days a week it seems obsessive.

It's the road to moobs.

They do it, R113, because they don’t know what else to do.

R115 Possibly. I also think some of it's about competition with friends. My 17 year old nephew got some dumbbells for his birthday and mentioned how some of his friends were getting muscles in a way that made him sound envious. So I guess when you're a teenager and your friends are doing something, you want to do the same.

R116 Your nephew is definitely a big mo.

and he deserves a sound spanking

[QUOTE] I also think some of it's about competition with friends. My 17 year old nephew got some dumbbells for his birthday and mentioned how some of his friends were getting muscles in a way that made him sound envious.

Peer pressure is definitely driving this epidemic, R116.

I know my rights.

Bottom Dysmorphia in Young Men- They spend their entire lives on their backs with their legs in the air waiting for their perfect Mr. Well Hung Top to fuck them. They sit there waiting for five, six, seven days a week for hours. NOTHING else matters to them.

Ya gotta do something with your time. But seriously most of them will get bored with it in a few years.

I don’t think so, R122. They’ve already been doing it for years by the time they hit their 20s and continue the obsession for a long time.

They'll get bored with it. Then long term injuries will set in from the over use. My favorite is the Costochondritis. Then you'll feel sorry for yourself for all the time you wasted. Been there. Done that.

Well their images on social media last forever, and they’ll continue inspiring/pressuring more young men to fall down the same rabbit hole. The cycle will be endless.

Actor speaks on his battles with muscle dysmorphia.

skinny with huge cock is better.

These guys would rather die than be considered “skinny,” R127.

Young men are risk takers and thrill seekers. The roids are not great (the risk( but there are far worse things they could be obssessional about. Seems to be roids are the only risk otherwise a gym surrounded by other body builders seems very very safe.

The gym itself doesn’t necessarily pose a “risk,” per se, R129. It’s that they’re missing out on so many other important things in life during their most formative years. The damage comes after they get older.

I'm not defending those with body dysmorphia. A psychological illness that should be treated so young men don't waste too much time and anguish over their warped perspectives and insecurities. Just saying I don't think being a gym bunny is the worst obsession.

They’re not just gym bunnies. They’re using drugs that permanently alter their hormones and enlarge their organs. They’re harming themselves psychologically and killing their potential for long term relationships. In some ways it’s actually worse than the other addictions society deems more harmful like alcoholism.

They don't look smart.

R132 is back at again, concern trolling the hotties who ignore him.

🙄

They’re not “hotties” to me, R134.

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Speaking up for those of us who worked out in the gym in the 90s. I knew maybe a few competitive bodybuilders who altered their diets and took supplements. The rest of us took pride in our bodies, with no huge desire to get bigger. I worked out five days a week for 30 years, slowly building a body that satisfied me. I ate normally and used the gym to be social. I knew at least 250 guys over the years just by being there at the same time of the day. I went to a dozen of their weddings. The others using the gym were engineers, architects, lawyers, teachers, corporate business leaders. Most of the others knew I was gay; it didn't bother them. Some would take a shower in the locker room at the same time I did.

Only once did one of them approach me to go home with them. I was surprised. He was a police officer. His cock was enlarging in his shorts while he talked. I took him up on it. Fantastic body, huge bush, big cock; I had a really good time. Afterward we socialized normally at the gym.

Yes the concern troll IS CONCERNED!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE] Speaking up for those of us who worked out in the gym in the 90s. I knew maybe a few competitive bodybuilders who altered their diets and took supplements. The rest of us took pride in our bodies, with no huge desire to get bigger.

The desire to get bigger while keeping their body fat extremely low is the difference. Now they train and obsess like competitive bodybuilders but social media is their stage and they’re being judged daily. Imagine a competition that never actually ends.

The concern troll is either a parody or so he so mentally ill he doesn’t realize what a laughingstock he is, constantly showing pictures of the “damaged and socially retarded” muscle hotties.

His only thing in common with the hotties is that he’s retarded

Bonus, The Turd wants to make steroids legal.

The legalization of steroids would worsen the problem so severely, it’s unfathomable how much damage that would cause.

Young men are doing stupid shit to get laid. News at 11.

For most, it will be a fad and they'll stop working out obsessively when they're in a relationship or have kids. For some, it will stick and they'll lead better and more disciplined lives for it (according to research, dedicated athletes taking steroids often cancel out the averse effects by living extremely healthy lifestyles). Some will crash and burn, same as with everything risky.

I mean, it still beats the average (drug-fueled) gay lifestyle in Western metropoleis.

They’re not doing this to get laid. Women couldn’t care less about a guy having a body like this, especially given the time and attention it takes to maintain it.

[quote]They’re not doing this to get laid. Women couldn’t care less about a guy having a body like this, especially given the time and attention it takes to maintain it.

Wrong. In the end, it's all about getting laid.

Most want to have a fuckboy physique for three reasons: 1) to get laid, 2) to compensate for their feeling of inadequacy (i.e., by becoming a "chad/alpha," ultimately in order to get laid), 3) to become a professional social media influencer (thus, becoming rich and famous, ultimately in order to get laid).

Of course, most of them don't get laid because dating has become a fucked-up online game of swiping left and right, which is why these young men turn into misogynist fascist turds who listen to Andrew Tate, vote for Trump, and prefer fucking their fleshlights while watching porn.

Women are ambivalent about these types of physiques (they're called "fuckboy physique" for a reason). They want to fuck the fuckboy, but marry the stable provider. Online dating overemphasizes appearance and image over personality, so these young man are not completely wrong to focus on their appearance. However, a quick fuck will not cure the feeling of loneliness they have, and women are not interested in gym-obsessed meatheads whose whole personality consists of Pepe the Frog memes.

You don’t really even need to spend that much time in the gym to be a “fuckboy.” You just need to be in good shape, be handsome and have a decent personality. That’s not what we’re talking about here. This is far more extreme.

And yet when there is a “let’s post pics of hot men” thread here on DL, most posts are of these muscled out smooth shaved bros.

This is a site for gay men, R147. Are you saying they do it to appeal to us? I highly doubt that.

They do it to get attention and admiration. If that means attention and admiration from gay men, I don't think they much care. They're into the number of likes they get; they're not profiling every like.

Also, just to clarify, this is a site for gay men and lesbians.

Muscled out smooth shaved bros… Mmmmmm

I supposed it's okay as long as they're not taking any type of muscle enhancement drugs. But we all know most (if not all) of them are.

Good thing that generation all end adolescence with the biggest cocks in history of mankind, so they can survive a bit of shrinkage from the roids.

The steroid shrinkage doesn't affect the shaft. It only affects the balls.

[QUOTE] I supposed it's okay as long as they're not taking any type of muscle enhancement drugs. But we all know most (if not all) of them are.

The ones who get the most attention and idolization are using enhancement drugs, and that normalizes it while pressuring natural bodybuilders to turn to the dark side.

R153 oh thank you, chemists. Millions of inches spared.

I think this Australian social media ban for teens 16 and under is a good step toward combating the problems with male body image issues.

Gotta work hard to attract the hottest gym bros - to hang out with, no homo!

The Man in the Gym is a Dys!

R156, for girls to....no image is toooo thin for them.

R160 for girls to what?

Or did you mean "for girls too?"

R161 Make a funnier crack when you're cosplaying as Miss Grammar Prisspot.

I have been thinking the same thing as to their obsessiveness and the impact on their futures....they seem to do this to the exclusion of building a life one sho's me.uld think of doing at that age...IMO...also, their bodies do not look human nor are they appealing to me at all...but that

Their tiny little buttholes taste all mediciney.

Thank you R161, top of the class.

[QUOTE] for girls to....no image is toooo thin for them.

But women have strong support networks for that. Because they’re women, they’re allowed to be vulnerable. Men are not. Nobody is looking at guys like this and feeling sorry for them. They don’t recognize the pain inside.

R166 Some lube and prep will fix that right up.

[quote]R27 I've linked a video about a muscle guy who admits he has body dysmorphia.

A strange thing about str8 men getting over invested in body building is women really don’t place a high priority on their partners being so muscular. Everyone likes a body that’s fit and healthy, and most women don’t require more than that.

So practically speaking, you really have to wonder who these men are exploding their bodies for.

R168 Even for str8 guys, it's about impressing other guys.

That frankly sounds gay.

But whatever, Heathers! Keep building your stupid bodies when building your minds or hearts would attract more people to you, and yield a more enriched, insightful life.

[QUOTE] A strange thing about str8 men getting over invested in body building is women really don’t place a high priority on their partners being so muscular. Everyone likes a body that’s fit and healthy, and most women don’t require more than that.

The last thing a woman wants is a guy who spends more time in the gym than he does with her.

The culture has created it's own industry. Young guys working out 7 days a week fund their obsession through gay baiting instas and only fans. The rash of these guys who all post about having this huge cock (seen in grey sweat pants but oddly displayed aka probably a fake with captions like "when will I find the dad bod older man who can handle me...

Only a hot guy who works for his body can appreciate the same. Even they aren't sucking each other off and such.

R172 They all yearn for a daddy with a nice thick wallet. They also yearn for a nice thick cock but that can be rented if you've got the wallet.

[QUOTE] Young guys working out 7 days a week fund their obsession through gay baiting instas and only fans.

That is certainly the case for some, but they’re a minority.

These guys are so focused on perfecting their bodies that they don’t parlay that into lots of sex. It’s just going to the gym

Yes, because they’re straight. It takes more than working out to attract females. That might work with gay guys but girls don’t have “juicy delts” at the top of their checklist. Building these bodies instead of their minds and education levels is actually anathema to attracting the opposite sex.

This set of gifs basically sums it all up

My buddy is great at massage - nothing helps with the soreness of leg day like having your butthole rubbed!

What?

r177 has never been near a female.

Why don’t you explain how I’m wrong, R180. Women are out here falling at the feet of guys built like this? I don’t think so. Do they want a strong, physically fit guy? Absolutely. But not to this extreme.

R181 Bet brah gets hard when you rub his pecs.

Men tend to admire muscular physiques more than women do. I've even heard straight men talk admirably about another guy's six-pack.

R183 It's self-actualization, like any and all body self-modification. For some guys, the obsession is actually with becoming healthier, but they are the exception.

[quote]R181 Do [women] want a strong, physically fit guy? Absolutely. But not to this extreme.

Guys like that could literally rip your head off. And women are constantly on guard against physical assault. So unless they’re fetishists, Killing Machine Cave Men types most likely give them pause.

Relevant scientific perspective.

In a nutshell: Yes, women are generally more attracted to moderately muscular body types. However, while they want to date the more average guys, they still find the more muscular guys sexier and will want to sleep with them.

^^ is that a Russian accent?

Why would we listen to it/him?

R181, that guy has titties! What bra size does he wear?

There's little more embarrassing that seeing DLers try to pretend they know what women (or "females" as most of you likely insist on) want. Different women like different things. I know, it's crazy, it's like they think they're normal people or something.

If you want to fantasise that these guys are working out this hard because they're subconsciously attracted to you, just do it, but don't dress it up as anything else.

I had a friend that was slim and very attractive in college. After college, I saw him several years later and he was excessively bulky, bald, fat face, chronic bodybuilder/weightlifter and took steroids extensively. He died almost a decade ago, at age 40-something, I saw, of an undisclosed, illness.

[quote]^^ is that a Russian accent? Why would we listen to it/him?

Belgian, you racist yokel!

Nice try, r189. Calling women "females" is a straight bro thing and you know it. Take your lazy character assassination elsewhere.

OP talks to herself a lot. A LOT.

r192 Tell that to r177 and r180

No females in the locker room! Bros only!

Something I've been meaning to ask on DL for a long time: What's the point in "graying out" posts, such as R18 and R20 above, if they're still readable even though they're grayed out and have lines through them?

Ah, that's the amazing David Laid showing off in those gifs at R178 :-)

r181 ever been to a male strip show? The women turn to rapid dogs. Women want what that guy looks like as much I want what that guy looks like,

R198, I think the major difference is that women -- some of them, anyway -- like muscle hunks as sex objects and possibly as boyfriends but certainly not as husbands. I'm sure that's true of some gay men as well :-)

[QUOTE] Ah, that's the amazing David Laid showing off in those gifs

David Laid is idolized by every single one of these guys. They worship the ground he walks on.

R200 he has an odd up curved penis (if you've ever seen his sex tape)...not that big, but I'd do him

Peyronie's is not a kind of sausage I purchase or serve.

r201 And given he had to change positions every 30 seconds he doesn't seem a particularly good fuck

And while mentioning Laid, let's also mention Qwin Vitale (yeah I know, I didn't name him). They used to be best friends and had some kind of falling out. Their sex tapes both leaked at the same time, leading to some speculation they were sending each other vids of them fucking, one leaked it after they fell out so the other leaked too

Thanks for mentioning Qwin Vitale, R204, but I don't like that photo of him. There are far better pix of him out there. His body is as magnificent as David Laid's, and I think Qwin has the handsomer face.

I didn't mean to link to that specific pic but rather this page

qwin's piece is nicer than David's

This guy claims to be 15 years old

[quote]This guy claims to be 15 years old

Whatever. Take away their access to social media and these guys will lose their interest in steroids and body building quickly.

r209, I was doing it LOOONNNGGG before Social Media.

I’m not positive that big bulky muscle men turn women in as they do gay men

It's an addiction.

R208 Someone needs to straighten the guy out.

[QUOTE]I’m not positive that big bulky muscle men turn women in as they do gay men

I don’t think they do it to turn on women, and they don’t do it to turn on gay men, either. That’s what’s so compelling about this.

[quote]I don’t think they do it to turn on women, and they don’t do it to turn on gay men, either. That’s what’s so compelling about this.

I'm not sure what you mean, but at any rate, I'm sure at least SOME of these guys do it to turn on women or other men, according to their own sexual preference. Why do you think otherwise?

It's full-body masturbation.

[QUOTE] I'm not sure what you mean, but at any rate, I'm sure at least SOME of these guys do it to turn on women or other men, according to their own sexual preference. Why do you think otherwise?

Because women aren’t turned on by stuff like this. The picture setup, the way they pose, the body parts they display, none of it is appealing to young women. If anything it probably repels them.

Chewy McNip must being going CRAZY over the image in OPs original post!

r217 again...you obviously are not around women. Go to any straight bar That guy would be dripping in pussy,

I think you have to draw a distinction between women thinking a guy is sexy and might be a fun lay for a night, and women thinking a guy might be husband material. Women generally are looking for husbands, not hookups, and what women are looking for in a bar is a lot different from what they're looking for normally. These guys don't look like good husband material because they're obviously obsessed with themselves.

[quote]I don’t think they do it to turn on women, and they don’t do it to turn on gay men, either.

(Using a Chandler Bing intonation) - Have you ever been around gay men anywhere in your life?

R217, if lots of women weren't turned on by muscle guys, the male strip clubs and shows would obviously not be so successful.

R220, I agree with you, but no one is saying that these muscle guys work out like that in order to appeal to women as husband material. I'm sure the ones who do it with women in mind do it because they just want to get laid, and I'm sure that works for them very often.

[QUOTE] (Using a Chandler Bing intonation) - Have you ever been around gay men anywhere in your life?

R221 what is your point, exactly? I said they aren’t building these bodies to attract attention from gay men. It might invite such attention, but that’s an unwanted consequence. They are frustrated by the fact that gay men are more captivated by these gladiatorial displays than the women they hoped it would attract, yet they keep doing it.

r220 - wow. So women are just looking for husbands and have no interest in getting laid and don't want hot muscular guys as husbands.

No, R224, that's NOT AT ALL what R220 meant. He meant that many women are attracted to guys with great bodies as sex objects, but in looking for a husband, they primarily look for other qualities. I'm pretty sure this is a commonly held belief, though of course there are exceptions.

It's amazing to me that you could have so completely misread R220's post.

R217 Guys like that are peacocking for other peacocks - in from a left-over rivalry for mates, etc, sort of instinct, but mostly because only other gym bros can appreciate the work that goes into it. They want a workout buddy, someone who is going to praise and respect them.

Sometimes the bromance has brosex, sometimes it doesn't, but it is definitely guys that they are posing for.

[QUOTE] These guys don't look like good husband material because they're obviously obsessed with themselves.

It’s hard to be a husband when you spend your life in the gym. They work out every day for hours to maintain their bodies. Women find that difficult to tolerate. The trade-off is not worth it to them.

R226, I'm sure that's true for some of these guys, but not ALL of them. Why are some people so small-minded as to insist that EVERY GUY who works to become a muscle man does it for the same reason(s)?

What do you think they do it for, R228? That’s what we’re here to discuss.

My buddy says that you can get organic gains by drinking the jizz of ripped guys!

I was skeptical, but there sure are a lot of ripped guys sucking each other off in the locker room!

I mean, gotta help a bro out, right?

R227 Because we want all hot guys to be fucking one another!