Actually looks promising. Hopefully Ariana Grande doesn’t speak too much.
Will Kristin, Idina or Adele Dazeem be making a cameo?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 11, 2024 11:22 PM |
Please don't let them cas....... FUCK
by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 11, 2024 11:24 PM |
R2 is there a problem?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | February 11, 2024 11:55 PM |
how many notes will be sung scaled (gospelized) for culture sake?
white woman good? Black woman bad? Is that this film? I don't remember that from the play.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | February 12, 2024 12:03 AM |
It underwhelmed me. Very stilted acting. No rush of emotion, Erivo looks too old. She should be playing Morrible, nor Elfie,
by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 12, 2024 12:03 AM |
Black woman? The character is Green.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 12, 2024 12:04 AM |
As usual, they're trying to hide it's a musical.
They're apparently using an older teenage girl to play Dorothy, like in the 1939 film, rather than a much younger girl like in the 1900 Baum novel and the Maguire novel and (or so it is implied) in the stage adaptation.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | February 12, 2024 12:11 AM |
Isn't Dorothy supposed to be a middle-aged woman? She just should be!
by Anonymous | reply 8 | February 12, 2024 12:18 AM |
Yuck, it has that same video game look that Oz the Great and Powerful had. Even the painted backgrounds of the 1939 looked more realistic.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | February 12, 2024 12:18 AM |
Cynthia Erivo's average acting will sink another film. Sad.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 12, 2024 12:20 AM |
Funny how r10 thinks Erivo will be the weak link in a film that has Ariana Grande
by Anonymous | reply 11 | February 12, 2024 12:24 AM |
Would have preferred a non musical version closer to the book. I’m hoping a lot of the elements left out of the stage show are put in seeing as it is a two parter.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | February 12, 2024 12:34 AM |
Ariana looks like shit with that white blond hair and weird WTF she has done to her face.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | February 12, 2024 1:05 AM |
That "Wicked" trailer is..."okay, whatever". Cynthia Erivo looks great, but I must confess Ariana Grande's physical appearance (and the makeup design that highlighted it) had me Googling the symptons of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. I never realized how wide-set her eyes are.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | February 12, 2024 1:08 AM |
Ariana looks sick. People keep saying she looks beautiful. I do not agree.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 12, 2024 2:05 AM |
Yikes, Cynthia looks 20 years older than Arianna. And I'm sure some MAGAts will think it's a lesbian love story.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 12, 2024 2:12 AM |
I didn't know it opens the same day as Moana 2. This could be a disaster.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | February 12, 2024 2:14 AM |
It doesn’t sound like she hits the F in Defying Gravity. What’s the point, then?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | February 12, 2024 2:57 AM |
I see that Ariana Grande has decided she is white again.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | February 12, 2024 3:02 AM |
The riff at the end did not sound good. First you hide it's a musical then that's the only moment you put in? There is one note YOU HAVE TO HIT in Wicked, and as they show in the trailer she can't hit it. Hopefully in the actual film she does, because hitting that high note is what Wicked is best known for.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | February 12, 2024 3:03 AM |
Just looks like another Alice in Wonderland type CGI movie. So ugly.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | February 12, 2024 3:05 AM |
A 38 year old woman is playing the “young” wicked witch. Uh ok.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | February 12, 2024 3:06 AM |
r20, *Everyone* knows it's a musical.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 12, 2024 3:08 AM |
Is everything filmed in front of a green screen these days? It is so saturated in CGI, I dare new movies to have one prosthetic character or set design.
This is why I enjoyed the Dungeons and Dragons movie, it meshed fantastic practical effects with CGI.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 12, 2024 3:08 AM |
R23 And yet you wouldn’t know it from watching this trailer. They took a page out of the Mean Girls/Wonka playbook.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 12, 2024 3:10 AM |
It's like this trailer was constructed specifically for me, with the singular goal of making me avoid seeing it.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 12, 2024 3:12 AM |
I’m annoyed. Trying fo stay positive, but it looks like they yet again fucked this up behind the overthought motivations of our times.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 12, 2024 3:13 AM |
I’m annoyed. Trying to stay positive, but it looks like they yet again fucked this up behind the overthought motivations of our times.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | February 12, 2024 3:13 AM |
Mean Girls and Wonka don't have the Wicked cachet, r25.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 12, 2024 3:13 AM |
So... diverse.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | February 12, 2024 3:15 AM |
Ariana Albino looks like a Make-A-Wish cancer kid. Is Glinda supposed to have leukemia in this version? Whoever told her to bleach her eyebrows obviously hates her. Even Chenoweth kept her dark eyebrows when she originated this part.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | February 12, 2024 3:15 AM |
[quote]I’m annoyed. Trying to stay positive, but it looks like they yet again fucked this up behind the overthought motivations of our times.
Are you that much a fan of the piece, r28?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | February 12, 2024 3:17 AM |
It's sad, I can see how good a movie this production could have been with better casting.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | February 12, 2024 3:19 AM |
This looks every bit as hideous as that James Franco monstrosity. CGI is a scourge - all one need do is revisit the 1939 original to see what magic can be created with practical sets.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | February 12, 2024 3:21 AM |
I hate everything here OTHER than Goldblum as the Wizard. Now that’s inspired casting.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | February 12, 2024 3:24 AM |
Elphaba is supposed to be young and attractive, but green. She's not supposed to be like this, old, ugly and green. I guess maybe it doesn't matter to gay Fiyero.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 12, 2024 3:25 AM |
What’s weird is that in the trailer, the train looks like the biggest CGI outlay of all. Why build a practical effect if you’re going to mask it behind CGI?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | February 12, 2024 3:26 AM |
Oh, just get super-stoned and see it on the biggest screen you can.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | February 12, 2024 3:29 AM |
Should have cast Britney and Christina
by Anonymous | reply 39 | February 12, 2024 3:30 AM |
Ariana looks horrific holy hell! The blond hair clashes with her skin tone, and she looks ill and gaunt.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | February 12, 2024 3:31 AM |
Should have cast Liza and Goldie.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | February 12, 2024 3:32 AM |
R42 Why do they both look so awful? I like the individual pieces, but together... No.
Arianna looks like a 60 year old woman trying to pass for 30 with extensive work done.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | February 12, 2024 3:34 AM |
[quote]Vanity Fair First Look.
Looks like two drag queens at Sardis.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | February 12, 2024 3:35 AM |
Cynthia Erivo’s shrieking at the end reminds me of when Fergie sang the National Anthem.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | February 12, 2024 3:36 AM |
Ariana’s dress makes me hungry for prosciutto.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | February 12, 2024 3:37 AM |
It just looks... I dunno, garish? There's an unpleasant sheen to it.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | February 12, 2024 3:40 AM |
Remember how everyone criticized Cats when the first trailer was released? Look how that turned out.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | February 12, 2024 3:42 AM |
Keep hope alive for Jonathan!
by Anonymous | reply 49 | February 12, 2024 3:43 AM |
I'm surprised the bitchers and complainers haven't yet noticed Michelle Yeoh as Madame Morrible.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | February 12, 2024 3:50 AM |
I get that they needed Ariana because of her name and recording success but it could sink the movie. Dove Cameron was said to be the runner up and I agree that the studio wasn't going to risk her carrying a big and risky project. I always thought Anna Kendrick was going to play Elphaba. I wonder if she auditioned.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | February 12, 2024 3:58 AM |
R18 that's exactly what I thought!
The whole point of Wicked is that one, singular note that very few singers can hit and every single person watching waits for.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | February 12, 2024 4:02 AM |
If Marc Platt is the exec. producer, how did we avoid Ben Platt as Fiyero?
by Anonymous | reply 53 | February 12, 2024 4:03 AM |
Ben Platt will be playing the very important role of Nessarose.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | February 12, 2024 4:06 AM |
Everyone's favorite ugly hunky midget Ethan Slater will be playing Boq, of course, which is how he met Ariana.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | February 12, 2024 4:09 AM |
Question- Did they CGI Erivo's face throughout the entire thing to make her appear younger? Her face looks unnatural. I swear in some shots it looks like it's hovering over her head. I feel like I'm watching an AI Elphaba.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | February 12, 2024 4:13 AM |
Cynthia Erivo is possibly the most talented singer/actress to come out of broadway in 20 years. I can’t wait for her Elphaba.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | February 12, 2024 4:19 AM |
R51 they don’t need Ariana for her name for a movie. Pop stars in films almost always flop. Very few do well or attract big audiences.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | February 12, 2024 4:20 AM |
R58, going way, way back, Paramount insisted on a recording star to play Sandy in Grease because they had a big part of the soundtrack. And of course there was no better choice than ONJ.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | February 12, 2024 4:23 AM |
Now THIS is how you do a movie poster! One of the best of the last 10 years.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | February 12, 2024 4:24 AM |
[quote]going way, way back, Paramount insisted on a recording star to play Sandy in Grease because they had a big part of the soundtrack. And of course there was no better choice than ONJ.
Today you'd get Nicki Minaj.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | February 12, 2024 4:25 AM |
r60 Looks like an homage to "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World."
by Anonymous | reply 62 | February 12, 2024 4:25 AM |
The excessive digital effects look ghastly. It's like Oz the Great and Powerful Part 2.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | February 12, 2024 4:27 AM |
R59 ONJ was also an actress though. Grease wasn’t her first movie. And there are a lot more examples proving me than proving you.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | February 12, 2024 4:28 AM |
[quote] Pop stars in films almost always flop. Very few do well or attract big audiences.
Lady Gaga in "A Star is Born"
Elvis Presley in "Jailhouse Rock" and "Blue Hawaii" and many more
The Beatles in "A Hard Day's Night" and "Help!"
Jennifer Lopez in "Selena," "Out of Sight," "Maid in Manhattan," etc.
Whitney Houston in "The Bodyguard"
Barbra Streisand in "Funny Girl," "The Way We Were," "A Star is Born," etc.
Cher in "Moonstruck," "Mask," etc.
Frank Sinatra in "From Here to Eternity," "The Man with the Golden Arm," etc.
Eminem in "8 Mile"
by Anonymous | reply 65 | February 12, 2024 4:30 AM |
[quote] Cynthia Erivo is possibly the most talented singer/actress to come out of broadway in 20 years
Sweetie, even if that were true, it's a low, low, LOW bar.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | February 12, 2024 4:31 AM |
R65, I think the poster was talking about more modern times. And some of your examples are a bit disingenuous.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | February 12, 2024 4:33 AM |
According to the set designer, the sets for Wicked are the third largest sets ever built for a motion picture, only behind Ben Hur and Cleopatra with Elizabeth Taylor. They planted 9 million real tulips to bloom at just the right time, and actually built a lake for some of the scenes.
The set designer is Nathan Crowley, who is Christopher Nolan's set designer. He also happens to be the grandson of famed witch Alistair Crowley. So, he knows a thing or two about witches.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | February 12, 2024 4:38 AM |
R65 half you mentioned were ACTORS as well as singers. Not the same as Britney Spears in Crossroads or Madonna. J Lo? Selena came out in 1997. Her debut single came out in 1999. At least TRY to know what you’re talking about fag.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | February 12, 2024 4:40 AM |
R67 his examples don’t apply to the topic at all.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | February 12, 2024 4:40 AM |
Ariana looks like an Armenian woman with yellow hair from a bad bleach job.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | February 12, 2024 4:42 AM |
r69is a nasty homophobe. F&F.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | February 12, 2024 4:43 AM |
Ariana looks like an albino in the trailer.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | February 12, 2024 4:43 AM |
R72 I’m gay babes.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | February 12, 2024 4:45 AM |
[quote] R59 ONJ was also an actress though. Grease wasn’t her first movie. And there are a lot more examples proving me than proving you.
Yes, because that's what it's ALL about, you being right on the DL. You must be so beaten down and kicked on a daily basis in real life that this is the only place where you can pretend you have some sort of superiority. Please allow me to burst that bubble, too.
You don't.
(Also, if you're counting Toomorrow as some sort of acting resume for ONJ, then you're a real dummy.)
by Anonymous | reply 75 | February 12, 2024 4:45 AM |
R61, actually, you'd get Taylor but I get what you're saying.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | February 12, 2024 4:45 AM |
I'll reserve judgement until I see it. But it looks really good. I love things like this.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | February 12, 2024 4:47 AM |
I've always felt the book was the best thing about the show. The score is unmemorable, at best. I first saw it in the fall of 2004. Cheno had just left, but Jennifer Laura Thompson, of whom I'm a big fan, had stepped into the role of Glinda and did a great job. I was underwhelmed by everything but the set and the book, and I thought Iscreama was particularly terrible.
Saw it again right after the theaters opened back up post-pandemic. A friend of mine was going on as a stand-by in one of the big roles and I wanted to see her. I have to say I enjoyed the show so much more this time, even though there was no one else in it who I was familiar with, and I think it was because of the energy they brought to it, being so grateful to be back onstage after a year and a half. They really gave it their all. I was surprised at how much better I thought the show was.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | February 12, 2024 4:55 AM |
I cannot stand Erivo. Very hard to look at.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | February 12, 2024 5:03 AM |
Are those CGI lips?
by Anonymous | reply 80 | February 12, 2024 5:09 AM |
Grande’s look reminds me of poor Brittany Murphy when she went an ugly shade of blonde and looked malnourished.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | February 12, 2024 5:24 AM |
Did Erivo really piss the Broadway community off with her Twitter comments about the Great Comet? Maybe she has better PR management now.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | February 12, 2024 5:26 AM |
Oh, I'm sure she'll put her hoof in her mouth again before the film is released.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | February 12, 2024 5:29 AM |
I want to like this, but it indeed does look like a video game… shocking (Mary!) that the 2 seconds of singing included was gospelizing flat singing of one of the most famous notes/moments in modern Broadway history.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | February 12, 2024 5:30 AM |
It looks like a screen saver.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | February 12, 2024 6:00 AM |
The "greenface" is offensive.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | February 12, 2024 6:11 AM |
I will see it for my darling Jonty.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | February 12, 2024 6:15 AM |
Well, I think we can conclude that middle-aged and older white gay men are not the target market for this film.
I'll just say Stephen Schwartz is very lucky that his mediocrity is getting a major buffer from a beloved, successful franchise that attracted and excellent production team.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | February 12, 2024 6:39 AM |
I thought this was better than I expected. I love Wicked, I’ve been waiting for a movie for years. I wasn’t thrilled with the casting (bar Jonny Bailey, I think he’s brilliant & bang on for Fiyero) but overall, it looks quite promising! Visually, it’s quite cool. But then I’m not a movie geek, don’t know what people are whinging about it feeling ‘flat’?!
My only gripe is WHY are they trying to hide it’s a musical?! It’s one of the biggest musicals of all time. Celebrate it, don’t put two tiny clips of music in the trailer!
by Anonymous | reply 89 | February 12, 2024 7:43 AM |
Can’t stand Erivo. Everything about her irritates me. Ariana Grande is truly awful and visibly cross eyed. This will tank because of these two charisma free lumps.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | February 12, 2024 11:02 AM |
Oh well, we always have the movie version of Merrily We Roll Along to look forward to.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | February 12, 2024 11:10 AM |
It won't tank, r90, because emo teenaged girls and theatre queen kids everywhere love Wicked. It's also a family movie with no sex or violence that parents would take their kids to.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | February 12, 2024 11:14 AM |
I’m not a fan of the aesthetic of the Broadway show or really even the Wizard of Oz so wasn’t expecting to like the visuals. I am, however, surprised by how much I hate this casting. As someone mentioned above, you need to believe that Elphaba is young and vibrant and pretty, despite being green. Erivo just looks wrong. No matter her talents, she is not right for the role, something that used to matter.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | February 12, 2024 11:18 AM |
So happy so see they've diversity-casted this wonderful play! *giggle*
by Anonymous | reply 94 | February 12, 2024 12:23 PM |
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by Anonymous | reply 95 | February 12, 2024 12:24 PM |
“In The Heights” was seen by what, three people? Why did they give this enormous property to this totally unproven and unknown director? Bizarre.
Studios are so afraid of musicals, despite the fact that they ruled the box office and awards for decades, they’ll give anyone who has a glancing interest in them a huge project which is well outside the scope of their abilities.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | February 12, 2024 12:34 PM |
That’s not saying much R57. She couldn’t even compare to LaChanze in Color Purple. I don’t think anyone other than you is waiting for Erivo’s interpretation with bated breath.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | February 12, 2024 12:46 PM |
Wow, you all weren't kidding. What the fuck was that riff? Hopefully they are saving the real riff for the film, because that was abysmal.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | February 12, 2024 12:47 PM |
the scream of pain at the end must be from the scene where she melts.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | February 12, 2024 12:50 PM |
I was annoyed by her social media antics during The Great Comet, but Erivo was a revelation in The Color Purple revival. She completely erased any memory of LaChanze - hell, Fantasia did that when she replaced her in the original run.
Also the big note in Defying Gravity isn’t in the “war cry” riff at the end, it’s the F in the final refrain.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | February 12, 2024 12:54 PM |
[quote]Oh well, we always have the movie version of Merrily We Roll Along to look forward to.
Not all of us.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | February 12, 2024 2:45 PM |
[quote]The set designer is Nathan Crowley, who is Christopher Nolan's set designer. He also happens to be the grandson of famed witch Alistair Crowley. So, he knows a thing or two about witches.
No comment.
And hopefully no relation.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | February 12, 2024 2:45 PM |
Stephen Schwartz:
"Those two young women, Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande, are absolute world-class singers. They are such talented singing actresses. I think what they are bringing musically to the film is incredibly exciting. I’m just thrilled about it"
by Anonymous | reply 103 | February 12, 2024 3:26 PM |
[quote]I cannot stand Erivo. Very hard to look at.
And she has resting smug face. Very punchable. Nobody is going to root for that.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | February 12, 2024 3:37 PM |
The CGI in that still is horrendous. This is another Jon M. Chu crapfest. How does he keep getting work? Oh, right, DEI. The banks cut the checks.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | February 12, 2024 3:44 PM |
Of course white gays will jerk themselves off to this because of diversity.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | February 12, 2024 3:44 PM |
[quote]And she has resting smug face. Very punchable. Nobody is going to root for that.
You'd be surprised.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | February 12, 2024 4:01 PM |
This film feels about10 years late. And why did production on it take two or three years? You spent that much time on THAT?
by Anonymous | reply 108 | February 12, 2024 4:02 PM |
Was production delayed due to covid?
by Anonymous | reply 109 | February 12, 2024 4:05 PM |
What do you expect from the guy who directed “Jen and the Holograms”?
by Anonymous | reply 110 | February 12, 2024 4:06 PM |
*Jem
by Anonymous | reply 111 | February 12, 2024 4:06 PM |
[quote] Of course white gays will jerk themselves off to this because of diversity.
This one isn’t. Seeing diversity hire Bowen Yang makes me sick. Also, I expect the lead women to be pretty. Elephaba is just plain old and ugly and Glinda looks like a freak.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | February 12, 2024 4:09 PM |
I am not someone who wants to hate on everything. I would really like to like this. Sadly, it seems like they made a few insurmountable mistakes.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | February 12, 2024 4:30 PM |
Just typing "racism on DL" so this is searchable.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | February 12, 2024 5:07 PM |
R68 Holy shit, at 300m this is going to be a game-changing level of flop. Casting, theme, timing, reactions, it seems like everything is building up against this.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | February 12, 2024 6:52 PM |
Bowen Yang is in this? Oh man, instant flop.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | February 12, 2024 6:56 PM |
[quote]everything is building up against this.
I think the opposite will be true, r115.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | February 12, 2024 6:56 PM |
I think Part One will be a decent hit, but then people will have had sufficient—and Part Two will bomb badly.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | February 12, 2024 7:06 PM |
[quote] Well, I think we can conclude that middle-aged and older white gay men are not the target market for this film.
Dumb move. With all the risks of bringing a musical to the screen, at least building in a gay audience ensures a movie with a loyal following, repeated views, and one that gets reevaluated over time.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | February 12, 2024 7:07 PM |
Bad casting - disastrous. This is going to be a stinker.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | February 12, 2024 7:23 PM |
How much did the CGI cost to whiten Ethan Slater's disgusting teeth?
by Anonymous | reply 121 | February 12, 2024 7:24 PM |
Who would you have cast, r120?
by Anonymous | reply 122 | February 12, 2024 7:25 PM |
I'll wait until I can watch them back to back.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | February 12, 2024 7:30 PM |
Ariana is fine. Erivo is too old. How hard is it to find a young black actress who can sing? Or why did it have to be Erivo? Was it promised it her(ten years ago) or something? She looks even older standing next to childlike Ariana Grande. Big mistake, huge.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | February 12, 2024 7:35 PM |
None of them look college aged. Aged, yes. College, no.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | February 12, 2024 7:38 PM |
Sad haters on this site. Tine will tell, I predict massive hit. Are the bigots ob this site mad because they cast a black woman to play a green woman?
by Anonymous | reply 126 | February 12, 2024 7:55 PM |
ESL, R126?
by Anonymous | reply 127 | February 12, 2024 7:56 PM |
This film should never have been made. Total shit.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | February 12, 2024 8:14 PM |
More woke garbage. Black girl is the victim. White girl the enemy, white guy a criminal.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | February 12, 2024 8:16 PM |
She's green, r130. You sound retarted.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | February 12, 2024 8:38 PM |
Apparently the original ruby slippers from the Wizard of Oz were used for Wicked.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | February 12, 2024 8:39 PM |
There were several pairs of ruby slippers, r132.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | February 12, 2024 8:47 PM |
[quote]None of them look college aged. Aged, yes. College, no.
Finally the pressure is off us.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | February 12, 2024 8:52 PM |
[quote]More woke garbage. Black girl is the victim. White girl the enemy, white guy a criminal.
Clearly, you didn't read the book or see the show, as the white girl is the best friend, not the enemy.
The white guy wasn't much better in the original movie if you think about it.
I will aver that it really gives a whole new meaning to "person of color" in this case.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | February 12, 2024 9:00 PM |
Poor r130 he’ll probably just come out with more racist crap now.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | February 12, 2024 9:03 PM |
[quote]I will aver that it really gives a whole new meaning to "person of color" in this case.
No, r135, it really doesn't.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | February 12, 2024 9:04 PM |
Part 1?
by Anonymous | reply 138 | February 12, 2024 9:05 PM |
Part 1, r138.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | February 12, 2024 9:08 PM |
If the audience can sit through it on one night on Broadway, was does the movie need to be in two parts?
by Anonymous | reply 140 | February 12, 2024 9:13 PM |
[quote]was does the movie need to be in two parts?
Two parts = more $$$
by Anonymous | reply 141 | February 12, 2024 9:17 PM |
How long is the show?
by Anonymous | reply 142 | February 12, 2024 9:17 PM |
Everyone is so unpleasant to look at. Even the people in the crowd scenes.
And who wants to look at a green Cynthia Erivo? The original is bad enough.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | February 12, 2024 9:26 PM |
Rumors that they're worried and it's been proposed to go back to one movie.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | February 12, 2024 9:32 PM |
[quote]R135: Clearly, you didn't read the book or see the show, as the white girl is the best friend, not the enemy.
It's more complicated than that. Elphaba and Glinda became friends in school, but subsequently their lives and their aims diverged: Elphaba became a terrorist, and Glinda became something of an instrument of the Wizard. After the arrival of Dorothy Gale (and Glinda's giving her Nessarose's shoes), Elphaba ceased to be friends with Glinda.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | February 12, 2024 9:47 PM |
[quote]Erivo is too old. How hard is it to find a young black actress who can sing?
It should have been Blue Ivy.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | February 12, 2024 10:19 PM |
r144
I hope that's true... it should have never been 2 parts with a year in-between
by Anonymous | reply 147 | February 12, 2024 10:24 PM |
The amazing Alice Fearn is playing Ariana Grande's mother. Her voice is just insane.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | February 14, 2024 1:14 AM |
The movie poster is pretty good. That’s about it.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | February 14, 2024 7:38 AM |
[quote]None of them look college aged. Aged, yes. College, no.
What's wrong with that?
by Anonymous | reply 151 | February 14, 2024 7:59 AM |
[quote] Thirtysomething Streisand and Redford in THE WAY WE WERE
Yes, but they played their characters from college age into their 30s. That's totally different.
But you knew that.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | February 14, 2024 8:06 AM |
[quote] Two parts = more $$$
Just the opposite. They’re already trying to cover up that it’s a musical. Musicals don’t sell.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | February 14, 2024 8:43 AM |
[quote] The movie poster is pretty good.
It’s a rip-off of the X-Files posted about.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | February 14, 2024 8:43 AM |
Stupid fun fact not really relevant to anything: I knew Eden Espinoza (who played Elphaba on Broadway at some point) in junior high and high school. Sweetest thing in the world and a world class singer even then. My older sister is still friends with her.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | February 14, 2024 9:18 AM |
Who’s the little blonde Asian girl at OP?
by Anonymous | reply 156 | February 14, 2024 9:45 AM |
This isn’t just DL, R155. The trailer is being eviscerated all across social media. I think a lot of people are disappointed. This seemed like a layup, and maybe it will still pull it off. But there are so many negatives in that trailer alone, it’s hard to see how it does.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | February 14, 2024 10:28 AM |
Is that Laverne Cox? I haven’t seen the credits. Quite the career jump.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | February 14, 2024 10:41 AM |
Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande look nothing like Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke. Dorothy's slippers are the original silver and the Cowardly Lion almost looks like an actual animal from the back. Seeing as how this is yet another unofficial prequel I'm guessing it precedes the books instead of the 1939 masterpiece.
You know Ariana Grande's anorexia, drug usage and bad plastic surgery are really THAT bad if not even all of the best makeup and CGI in Hollywood can completely mask it for what is clearly a huge big budget production.
Also I'm getting pretty fucking sick of Marc Platt and Lin Manuel Miranda practically controlling Broadway.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | February 14, 2024 10:47 AM |
Both women are wrong for their roles. That’s the long and short of it.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | February 14, 2024 11:22 AM |
Did Ariana snag a part for her brother? Perhaps one of the Winged Monkeys?
by Anonymous | reply 161 | February 14, 2024 3:39 PM |
Frankie Grande is playing the important part of Toto.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | February 14, 2024 3:50 PM |
[quote]R159: Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande look nothing like Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke. Dorothy's slippers are the original silver and the Cowardly Lion almost looks like an actual animal from the back. Seeing as how this is yet another unofficial prequel I'm guessing it precedes the books instead of the 1939 masterpiece.
On this subject, when posters refer to "the book," they're not talking about anything L Frank Baum wrote. Nor are they referring to 'the 1939 masterpiece.' There's another book series which completely re-imagined this entire storyline, and it began with 𝐖𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝: 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐞𝐬𝐭 (1995), which led to several sequels and a musical. Comparing it to the 1939 MGM version is a mistake.
Personally, I wish that this was a straight-up adaptation of 'Wicked' the novel rather than the musical, but it is what it is.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | February 14, 2024 6:37 PM |
Yeah, r163, I don't know what rock Chaos has been living under.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | February 14, 2024 6:41 PM |
Be kind, R164. I'm just offering him an opportunity to catch up on his own terms.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | February 14, 2024 6:44 PM |
Years ago, ABC bought the rights to do a non-musical miniseries adaptation of the Gregory Maguire book. Project probably got canned.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | February 14, 2024 7:41 PM |
They both look so hideous and sickly in the OP.
No one's going to want to watch that.
Especially on the big screen.
And pay for it.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | February 14, 2024 10:35 PM |
[quote] Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande look nothing like Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke. Dorothy's slippers are the original silver and the Cowardly Lion almost looks like an actual animal from the back. Seeing as how this is yet another unofficial prequel I'm guessing it precedes the books instead of the 1939 masterpiece.
But the Dorothy and the Tin Man in the clip look more like Judy Garland and Jack Haley in the roles than they look like the W. W. Denslow drawings for the original book. So my guess is this film is trying to do homage to both versions. (The stage musical does too--in the Broadway musical, the Silver Shoes are transformed into Ruby Slippers.)
by Anonymous | reply 168 | February 14, 2024 10:40 PM |
The original Gregory Maguire book on which this film is ultimately based is much more invested in the 1900 L. Frank Baum children's book than it is in the 1939 M-G-M film adaptation.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | February 14, 2024 10:42 PM |
Wicked will do a billion dollars$$$. The Wonka musical is doing $600 million and it didn't have half the hype of Wicked.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | February 15, 2024 12:52 AM |
[quote]Rumors that they're worried and it's been proposed to go back to one movie.
Universal is ecstatic with the movies, and it's still 2 movies. The way some of you haters are scrambling is hilarious.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | February 15, 2024 1:01 AM |
R164 I'm not really into musicals or Broadway. I just don't care for a lot of them. I prefer plays and the opera really.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | February 15, 2024 1:49 AM |
Now I have thoughts of Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke lezzing out. Great....
by Anonymous | reply 173 | February 15, 2024 4:01 AM |
Is any material being added to make it into two movies? I’m assuming the total run time will be four hours between the two movies.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | February 15, 2024 12:09 PM |
Terrible casting
by Anonymous | reply 175 | February 15, 2024 1:28 PM |
R173 And your little dog, too!
*cackles*
by Anonymous | reply 176 | February 15, 2024 1:37 PM |
When someone uses “haters” they lose the debate with me. Looking at you, R171.
I want nothing more than the movies to be fun and strong. But it’s simply true that the casting is strange, at best. No one fits or goes together (Bailey falling for Erivo, green or not? Come on!). And the whole thing looks poorly lit and overly CGIed. Plus that final note? Eek.
It may just be a bad trailer and we all eat crow. I’m heartened by how bad some of the advanced Les Mis footage looked and sounded, and that turned out okay. But pointing out the obvious about this trailer isn’t being a hater. It’s also not a niche position.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | February 15, 2024 4:36 PM |
R177 Yes, "haters" is a teenage girl/stan term.
It means they are incapable of having a serious conversation about the topic at hand. They just loooooooovvvvvveeeeee that person, no matter what they do (or don't do, as it were).
by Anonymous | reply 178 | February 15, 2024 5:09 PM |
[quote]They just loooooooovvvvvveeeeee that person
And you have a problem with "haters", r178. Uh huh.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | February 15, 2024 5:21 PM |
R179 Sorry the concept of "context" is a challenge for you.
The use of "loooooovvvvveeeeeeee" is an indicator of the level of stan behavior and immaturity such a person would possess.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | February 15, 2024 5:26 PM |
Yikes they both looked homely at CinemaCon
by Anonymous | reply 182 | April 11, 2024 1:29 AM |
So is the SpongeBob guy in Wicked and that's how met her? Her looks have gone downhill.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | April 11, 2024 1:33 AM |
Soulless, stilted, overblown, calculated CGI-fest.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | April 11, 2024 1:58 AM |
I'd like it fail because I can't stand Cynthia Erivo.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | April 11, 2024 2:00 AM |
Will they fix Ariana’s wonky eye with CGI?
by Anonymous | reply 186 | April 11, 2024 2:01 AM |
Mark my words. We will be saying EGOT winner Cynthia Erivo by this time next year. She looks FANTASTIC in the new WICKED preview we got. Just hand her the Oscar right now #CinemaCon
by Anonymous | reply 187 | April 11, 2024 2:11 AM |
Jon M. Chu says Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo's performances in Wicked will be "cherished for decades" #CinemaCon 🫧🧹
by Anonymous | reply 188 | April 11, 2024 2:12 AM |
Wicked looks absolutely phenomenal in every way. I love that this new footage gave us an extended look at the film which feels like the perfect mixture of the stage play and the source material. Hearing Popular and Defying Gravity sent chills down my spine. #Wicked #CinemaCon
by Anonymous | reply 189 | April 11, 2024 2:16 AM |
Give Cynthia Erivo her BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Oscar RIGHT NOW!
WICKED just blew the #CinemaCon audience AWAY! I think it'll do BARBIE numbers tbh...
by Anonymous | reply 190 | April 11, 2024 2:21 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 191 | April 11, 2024 2:22 AM |
MISS ARIANA GRANDE you did not have to KILL this role this perfectly!! A queen, the perfect casting!
WICKED is about to DOMINATE the box office!! Wait on it! #CinemaCon
by Anonymous | reply 192 | April 11, 2024 2:26 AM |
The amount of thought and care put in by everyone working on Wicked is truly impeccable. You can feel how it perfectly captures the complex relationship between Elphaba and Glinda as they are driven apart. The attention to details of every artistic choice is astonishing.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | April 11, 2024 2:27 AM |
Peter Dinklage will play Dr. Dillamond in WICKED.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | April 11, 2024 2:27 AM |
[quote] Give Cynthia Erivo her BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Oscar RIGHT NOW!
Supporting? Supporting??? This woman better hide because Cynthia is gonna come after her like crazy. Cynthia will be put in Best Actress category. If anyone goes supporting, it will be Ariana.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | April 11, 2024 2:34 AM |
We have a stan in this thread
by Anonymous | reply 196 | April 11, 2024 3:54 AM |
Ariana Grande is second only to Taylor Swift insofar as biggest pop stars in the world. Ariana will decide if this becomes and iconic thing or not. Since two movies are in the can with the whole show (plus more), Thanksgiving 2024 will decide Turkey Lurky Time.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | April 11, 2024 5:03 AM |
Apologies for errors, Muriel or whatever decided to post before I had finished editing. Nonetheless, it is what it is.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | April 11, 2024 5:07 AM |
I’m rooting for it, but I’m still not hopeful. Both leads seem so wrong.
That said, I see no way it’s not a massive hit. Thanksgiving? Kid appeal from a built in IP? Even if the reviews aren’t great, people will still go. Just like the Broadway show, oddly enough (opening night reviews were mixed to negative)
by Anonymous | reply 199 | April 11, 2024 12:22 PM |
If Cynthia wins the Oscar, she will complete the first legit EGOT since Barbra Streisand. But according to insiders, she and Ariana are going to be in a battle royale for the Oscar.
And the singing? “These are live vocals,” Chu says. “When we were shooting it, those girls were like, ‘Fuck the pre-records. We’re going live.’ ” The director was skeptical. “There’s going to be a lot of wind in your air pipes. Is that okay?” he asked. They didn’t miss a beat: “ ‘Yeah. That’s what we do.’ ”
For “Defying Gravity,” Erivo actually sailed through the Western sky belting high F’s. “She had a harness pulling and pushing and yanking and tugging on every nook and cranny that there is,” says Grande. Her own numbers were no stroll in the park. “I’m literally never going to forget you jumping on a chandelier over my head whilst singing,” Erivo tells her costar. Grande giggles, remembering the stunt. “She was just so excited to perform for her new friend,” she says of Glinda. “She wanted to do a trick.”
But Erivo and Grande forged a relationship that changed them for the better. “I just need to say that I don’t think people realize that she’s got the chops,” says Erivo, grasping Grande’s hand. “I don’t think people realize how brilliant this person’s brain and voice and talent is.” Grande turns away, her eyes welling up.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | April 11, 2024 6:54 PM |
The vocals may be live but there will be heavy post production polish (autotune to smooth things out) applied to them. Especially on Ariana's end. Singing while wearing a tight and painful harness is not the same as singing comfortably in a studio or singing live on stage.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | April 11, 2024 10:05 PM |
[quote]These are live vocals,” Chu says. “When we were shooting it, those girls
Girls? Cancel!!!
by Anonymous | reply 202 | April 11, 2024 10:27 PM |
[quote]Give Cynthia Erivo her BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Oscar RIGHT NOW!
Yeah, that’s not how it works. You have to get the most votes from Academy members. The Oscars aren’t Affirmative Action anymore since Will Smith.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | April 11, 2024 10:34 PM |
I am still not over how magical the Wicked trailer is, watching Elphaba come into her powers with major teases of the frenemies dynamic between her and Glinda. Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo's voices fit the music SO WELL, a spellbinding epic of emotion.
by Anonymous | reply 204 | April 12, 2024 12:22 AM |
Why are the posts the same as the Tweets?
by Anonymous | reply 206 | April 13, 2024 1:11 AM |
Don't know anything about Wicked ( yes one of those DLers who hates musicals) I just want to see how Johnny goes in this. Short clips on you tube will be fine.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | April 13, 2024 1:21 AM |
Guess I know even less: who's Johnny?
by Anonymous | reply 208 | April 13, 2024 1:26 AM |
^ Jonathan Bailey from Fellow Travellers.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | April 13, 2024 1:34 AM |
Ariana Grande looks “special.”
by Anonymous | reply 210 | April 13, 2024 1:40 AM |
I've never heard of 'Fellow Travelers' either.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | April 13, 2024 1:41 AM |
Director Jon M. Chu revealed that there's a "five-hour version" of 'WICKED', as of now.
by Anonymous | reply 212 | April 13, 2024 2:11 AM |
R211, make Google your friend.
by Anonymous | reply 213 | April 13, 2024 2:33 AM |
I'll look him up on IMDb, TYVM R213.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | April 13, 2024 3:42 AM |
I know they're going to be glorified extras in Wicked, but I want to know who is playing Dorothy, The Scarecrow, The Tinman and The Cowardly Lion. I can't find the info anywhere. You'd think given how important those characters are in other Oz related media the names of the actors would've been available immediately even if they were little known names.
by Anonymous | reply 215 | April 13, 2024 9:21 PM |
It should have been Meryl Streep and Cher.
by Anonymous | reply 216 | April 18, 2024 6:00 PM |
[quote]It should have been Meryl Streep and Cher.
[italic]I'm melting![/italic]
by Anonymous | reply 217 | April 18, 2024 9:59 PM |
R210, yes. Even for here I feel unkind saying it, but like a preemie who sings. Or one of those new hatchlings that falls out of the nest but doesn't make it.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | April 18, 2024 10:00 PM |
Who's the inspiration for Johnny Bailey's look? The Bride of Frankenstein? Cruella de Ville ? Sable Colby?
by Anonymous | reply 219 | April 18, 2024 10:01 PM |
Angelina Jolie's vanity project Maleficent somewhat ripped off Wicked. Both are revisionist media that repaint the female villain as an antiheroine whose death was revealed to have been faked at the very end.
by Anonymous | reply 221 | April 19, 2024 12:23 AM |
Fun interview with Schwartz from last summer. The movie is briefly discussed toward the end.
by Anonymous | reply 222 | April 19, 2024 12:33 AM |
Ariana Grande looks like Cheri O'Teri in OP's picture
by Anonymous | reply 223 | April 19, 2024 12:41 AM |
Ariana looks sickly, even though she's not the one who's green.
by Anonymous | reply 224 | April 19, 2024 1:54 AM |
She's anorexic, her eyes are pinned out and fucked up from drugs and a fox lift. Her hair (without the stupid Madonna Blonde Ambition ponytail extension) is super short, bleached, fried and thinning. Her chin implant is botched resulting in a long pointy witch chin and she's constantly playing the victim and acting like a coquette dainty little Audrey Hepburn-esque Disney type princess when in actuality she is an insufferable rude and selfish bitch who doesn't give a fuck whose life she ruins in order to get what she wants. Then she doubles down and gaslights everyone in order to justify or conceal her actions.
by Anonymous | reply 225 | April 19, 2024 1:55 AM |
This is gonna bomb.
by Anonymous | reply 226 | April 19, 2024 1:56 AM |
R226 It's generic CGI laden commercialized dreck adapted from a Broadway musical. It's going to be an absolute hit. Hollywood has always been about quality (money) over quality (art) for the last few decades or so.
by Anonymous | reply 227 | April 19, 2024 2:03 AM |
I really liked the movies Dreamgirls and Chicago but this doesn't interest me so I guess I will hand in my gay card as I exit left....
by Anonymous | reply 228 | April 19, 2024 7:26 AM |
R227, musicals don’t sell.
by Anonymous | reply 229 | April 19, 2024 7:55 AM |
The director is terrible too.
by Anonymous | reply 230 | April 19, 2024 7:55 AM |
The stage play is 2:45.
They're gonna get roasted for the pretentious of two parts.
by Anonymous | reply 231 | April 19, 2024 2:10 PM |