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“Wicked: Part One” trailer is here!

Actually looks promising. Hopefully Ariana Grande doesn’t speak too much.

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by Anonymousreply 181February 15, 2024 6:57 PM

Will Kristin, Idina or Adele Dazeem be making a cameo?

by Anonymousreply 1February 12, 2024 12:22 AM

Please don't let them cas....... FUCK

by Anonymousreply 2February 12, 2024 12:24 AM

R2 is there a problem?

by Anonymousreply 3February 12, 2024 12:55 AM

how many notes will be sung scaled (gospelized) for culture sake?

white woman good? Black woman bad? Is that this film? I don't remember that from the play.

by Anonymousreply 4February 12, 2024 1:03 AM

It underwhelmed me. Very stilted acting. No rush of emotion, Erivo looks too old. She should be playing Morrible, nor Elfie,

by Anonymousreply 5February 12, 2024 1:03 AM

Black woman? The character is Green.

by Anonymousreply 6February 12, 2024 1:04 AM

As usual, they're trying to hide it's a musical.

They're apparently using an older teenage girl to play Dorothy, like in the 1939 film, rather than a much younger girl like in the 1900 Baum novel and the Maguire novel and (or so it is implied) in the stage adaptation.

by Anonymousreply 7February 12, 2024 1:11 AM

Isn't Dorothy supposed to be a middle-aged woman? She just should be!

by Anonymousreply 8February 12, 2024 1:18 AM

Yuck, it has that same video game look that Oz the Great and Powerful had. Even the painted backgrounds of the 1939 looked more realistic.

by Anonymousreply 9February 12, 2024 1:18 AM

Cynthia Erivo's average acting will sink another film. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 10February 12, 2024 1:20 AM

Funny how r10 thinks Erivo will be the weak link in a film that has Ariana Grande

by Anonymousreply 11February 12, 2024 1:24 AM

Would have preferred a non musical version closer to the book. I’m hoping a lot of the elements left out of the stage show are put in seeing as it is a two parter.

by Anonymousreply 12February 12, 2024 1:34 AM

Ariana looks like shit with that white blond hair and weird WTF she has done to her face.

by Anonymousreply 13February 12, 2024 2:05 AM

That "Wicked" trailer is..."okay, whatever". Cynthia Erivo looks great, but I must confess Ariana Grande's physical appearance (and the makeup design that highlighted it) had me Googling the symptons of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. I never realized how wide-set her eyes are.

by Anonymousreply 14February 12, 2024 2:08 AM

Ariana looks sick. People keep saying she looks beautiful. I do not agree.

by Anonymousreply 15February 12, 2024 3:05 AM

Yikes, Cynthia looks 20 years older than Arianna. And I'm sure some MAGAts will think it's a lesbian love story.

by Anonymousreply 16February 12, 2024 3:12 AM

I didn't know it opens the same day as Moana 2. This could be a disaster.

by Anonymousreply 17February 12, 2024 3:14 AM

It doesn’t sound like she hits the F in Defying Gravity. What’s the point, then?

by Anonymousreply 18February 12, 2024 3:57 AM

I see that Ariana Grande has decided she is white again.

by Anonymousreply 19February 12, 2024 4:02 AM

The riff at the end did not sound good. First you hide it's a musical then that's the only moment you put in? There is one note YOU HAVE TO HIT in Wicked, and as they show in the trailer she can't hit it. Hopefully in the actual film she does, because hitting that high note is what Wicked is best known for.

by Anonymousreply 20February 12, 2024 4:03 AM

Just looks like another Alice in Wonderland type CGI movie. So ugly.

by Anonymousreply 21February 12, 2024 4:05 AM

A 38 year old woman is playing the “young” wicked witch. Uh ok.

by Anonymousreply 22February 12, 2024 4:06 AM

r20, *Everyone* knows it's a musical.

by Anonymousreply 23February 12, 2024 4:08 AM

Is everything filmed in front of a green screen these days? It is so saturated in CGI, I dare new movies to have one prosthetic character or set design.

This is why I enjoyed the Dungeons and Dragons movie, it meshed fantastic practical effects with CGI.

by Anonymousreply 24February 12, 2024 4:08 AM

R23 And yet you wouldn’t know it from watching this trailer. They took a page out of the Mean Girls/Wonka playbook.

by Anonymousreply 25February 12, 2024 4:10 AM

It's like this trailer was constructed specifically for me, with the singular goal of making me avoid seeing it.

by Anonymousreply 26February 12, 2024 4:12 AM

I’m annoyed. Trying fo stay positive, but it looks like they yet again fucked this up behind the overthought motivations of our times.

by Anonymousreply 27February 12, 2024 4:13 AM

I’m annoyed. Trying to stay positive, but it looks like they yet again fucked this up behind the overthought motivations of our times.

by Anonymousreply 28February 12, 2024 4:13 AM

Mean Girls and Wonka don't have the Wicked cachet, r25.

by Anonymousreply 29February 12, 2024 4:13 AM

So... diverse.

by Anonymousreply 30February 12, 2024 4:15 AM

Ariana Albino looks like a Make-A-Wish cancer kid. Is Glinda supposed to have leukemia in this version? Whoever told her to bleach her eyebrows obviously hates her. Even Chenoweth kept her dark eyebrows when she originated this part.

by Anonymousreply 31February 12, 2024 4:15 AM

[quote]I’m annoyed. Trying to stay positive, but it looks like they yet again fucked this up behind the overthought motivations of our times.

Are you that much a fan of the piece, r28?

by Anonymousreply 32February 12, 2024 4:17 AM

It's sad, I can see how good a movie this production could have been with better casting.

by Anonymousreply 33February 12, 2024 4:19 AM

This looks every bit as hideous as that James Franco monstrosity. CGI is a scourge - all one need do is revisit the 1939 original to see what magic can be created with practical sets.

by Anonymousreply 34February 12, 2024 4:21 AM

I hate everything here OTHER than Goldblum as the Wizard. Now that’s inspired casting.

by Anonymousreply 35February 12, 2024 4:24 AM

Elphaba is supposed to be young and attractive, but green. She's not supposed to be like this, old, ugly and green. I guess maybe it doesn't matter to gay Fiyero.

by Anonymousreply 36February 12, 2024 4:25 AM

What’s weird is that in the trailer, the train looks like the biggest CGI outlay of all. Why build a practical effect if you’re going to mask it behind CGI?

by Anonymousreply 37February 12, 2024 4:26 AM

Oh, just get super-stoned and see it on the biggest screen you can.

by Anonymousreply 38February 12, 2024 4:29 AM

Should have cast Britney and Christina

by Anonymousreply 39February 12, 2024 4:30 AM

Ariana looks horrific holy hell! The blond hair clashes with her skin tone, and she looks ill and gaunt.

by Anonymousreply 40February 12, 2024 4:31 AM

Should have cast Liza and Goldie.

by Anonymousreply 41February 12, 2024 4:32 AM

Vanity Fair First Look.

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by Anonymousreply 42February 12, 2024 4:32 AM

R42 Why do they both look so awful? I like the individual pieces, but together... No.

Arianna looks like a 60 year old woman trying to pass for 30 with extensive work done.

by Anonymousreply 43February 12, 2024 4:34 AM

[quote]Vanity Fair First Look.

Looks like two drag queens at Sardis.

by Anonymousreply 44February 12, 2024 4:35 AM

Cynthia Erivo’s shrieking at the end reminds me of when Fergie sang the National Anthem.

by Anonymousreply 45February 12, 2024 4:36 AM

Ariana’s dress makes me hungry for prosciutto.

by Anonymousreply 46February 12, 2024 4:37 AM

It just looks... I dunno, garish? There's an unpleasant sheen to it.

by Anonymousreply 47February 12, 2024 4:40 AM

Remember how everyone criticized Cats when the first trailer was released? Look how that turned out.

by Anonymousreply 48February 12, 2024 4:42 AM

Keep hope alive for Jonathan!

by Anonymousreply 49February 12, 2024 4:43 AM

I'm surprised the bitchers and complainers haven't yet noticed Michelle Yeoh as Madame Morrible.

by Anonymousreply 50February 12, 2024 4:50 AM

I get that they needed Ariana because of her name and recording success but it could sink the movie. Dove Cameron was said to be the runner up and I agree that the studio wasn't going to risk her carrying a big and risky project. I always thought Anna Kendrick was going to play Elphaba. I wonder if she auditioned.

by Anonymousreply 51February 12, 2024 4:58 AM

R18 that's exactly what I thought!

The whole point of Wicked is that one, singular note that very few singers can hit and every single person watching waits for.

by Anonymousreply 52February 12, 2024 5:02 AM

If Marc Platt is the exec. producer, how did we avoid Ben Platt as Fiyero?

by Anonymousreply 53February 12, 2024 5:03 AM

Ben Platt will be playing the very important role of Nessarose.

by Anonymousreply 54February 12, 2024 5:06 AM

Everyone's favorite ugly hunky midget Ethan Slater will be playing Boq, of course, which is how he met Ariana.

by Anonymousreply 55February 12, 2024 5:09 AM

Question- Did they CGI Erivo's face throughout the entire thing to make her appear younger? Her face looks unnatural. I swear in some shots it looks like it's hovering over her head. I feel like I'm watching an AI Elphaba.

by Anonymousreply 56February 12, 2024 5:13 AM

Cynthia Erivo is possibly the most talented singer/actress to come out of broadway in 20 years. I can’t wait for her Elphaba.

by Anonymousreply 57February 12, 2024 5:19 AM

R51 they don’t need Ariana for her name for a movie. Pop stars in films almost always flop. Very few do well or attract big audiences.

by Anonymousreply 58February 12, 2024 5:20 AM

R58, going way, way back, Paramount insisted on a recording star to play Sandy in Grease because they had a big part of the soundtrack. And of course there was no better choice than ONJ.

by Anonymousreply 59February 12, 2024 5:23 AM

Now THIS is how you do a movie poster! One of the best of the last 10 years.

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by Anonymousreply 60February 12, 2024 5:24 AM

[quote]going way, way back, Paramount insisted on a recording star to play Sandy in Grease because they had a big part of the soundtrack. And of course there was no better choice than ONJ.

Today you'd get Nicki Minaj.

by Anonymousreply 61February 12, 2024 5:25 AM

r60 Looks like an homage to "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World."

by Anonymousreply 62February 12, 2024 5:25 AM

The excessive digital effects look ghastly. It's like Oz the Great and Powerful Part 2.

by Anonymousreply 63February 12, 2024 5:27 AM

R59 ONJ was also an actress though. Grease wasn’t her first movie. And there are a lot more examples proving me than proving you.

by Anonymousreply 64February 12, 2024 5:28 AM

[quote] Pop stars in films almost always flop. Very few do well or attract big audiences.

Lady Gaga in "A Star is Born"

Elvis Presley in "Jailhouse Rock" and "Blue Hawaii" and many more

The Beatles in "A Hard Day's Night" and "Help!"

Jennifer Lopez in "Selena," "Out of Sight," "Maid in Manhattan," etc.

Whitney Houston in "The Bodyguard"

Barbra Streisand in "Funny Girl," "The Way We Were," "A Star is Born," etc.

Cher in "Moonstruck," "Mask," etc.

Frank Sinatra in "From Here to Eternity," "The Man with the Golden Arm," etc.

Eminem in "8 Mile"

by Anonymousreply 65February 12, 2024 5:30 AM

[quote] Cynthia Erivo is possibly the most talented singer/actress to come out of broadway in 20 years

Sweetie, even if that were true, it's a low, low, LOW bar.

by Anonymousreply 66February 12, 2024 5:31 AM

R65, I think the poster was talking about more modern times. And some of your examples are a bit disingenuous.

by Anonymousreply 67February 12, 2024 5:33 AM

According to the set designer, the sets for Wicked are the third largest sets ever built for a motion picture, only behind Ben Hur and Cleopatra with Elizabeth Taylor. They planted 9 million real tulips to bloom at just the right time, and actually built a lake for some of the scenes.

The set designer is Nathan Crowley, who is Christopher Nolan's set designer. He also happens to be the grandson of famed witch Alistair Crowley. So, he knows a thing or two about witches.

by Anonymousreply 68February 12, 2024 5:38 AM

R65 half you mentioned were ACTORS as well as singers. Not the same as Britney Spears in Crossroads or Madonna. J Lo? Selena came out in 1997. Her debut single came out in 1999. At least TRY to know what you’re talking about fag.

by Anonymousreply 69February 12, 2024 5:40 AM

R67 his examples don’t apply to the topic at all.

by Anonymousreply 70February 12, 2024 5:40 AM

Ariana looks like an Armenian woman with yellow hair from a bad bleach job.

by Anonymousreply 71February 12, 2024 5:42 AM

r69is a nasty homophobe. F&F.

by Anonymousreply 72February 12, 2024 5:43 AM

Ariana looks like an albino in the trailer.

by Anonymousreply 73February 12, 2024 5:43 AM

R72 I’m gay babes.

by Anonymousreply 74February 12, 2024 5:45 AM

[quote] R59 ONJ was also an actress though. Grease wasn’t her first movie. And there are a lot more examples proving me than proving you.

Yes, because that's what it's ALL about, you being right on the DL. You must be so beaten down and kicked on a daily basis in real life that this is the only place where you can pretend you have some sort of superiority. Please allow me to burst that bubble, too.

You don't.

(Also, if you're counting Toomorrow as some sort of acting resume for ONJ, then you're a real dummy.)

by Anonymousreply 75February 12, 2024 5:45 AM

R61, actually, you'd get Taylor but I get what you're saying.

by Anonymousreply 76February 12, 2024 5:45 AM

I'll reserve judgement until I see it. But it looks really good. I love things like this.

by Anonymousreply 77February 12, 2024 5:47 AM

I've always felt the book was the best thing about the show. The score is unmemorable, at best. I first saw it in the fall of 2004. Cheno had just left, but Jennifer Laura Thompson, of whom I'm a big fan, had stepped into the role of Glinda and did a great job. I was underwhelmed by everything but the set and the book, and I thought Iscreama was particularly terrible.

Saw it again right after the theaters opened back up post-pandemic. A friend of mine was going on as a stand-by in one of the big roles and I wanted to see her. I have to say I enjoyed the show so much more this time, even though there was no one else in it who I was familiar with, and I think it was because of the energy they brought to it, being so grateful to be back onstage after a year and a half. They really gave it their all. I was surprised at how much better I thought the show was.

by Anonymousreply 78February 12, 2024 5:55 AM

I cannot stand Erivo. Very hard to look at.

by Anonymousreply 79February 12, 2024 6:03 AM

Are those CGI lips?

by Anonymousreply 80February 12, 2024 6:09 AM

Grande’s look reminds me of poor Brittany Murphy when she went an ugly shade of blonde and looked malnourished.

by Anonymousreply 81February 12, 2024 6:24 AM

Did Erivo really piss the Broadway community off with her Twitter comments about the Great Comet? Maybe she has better PR management now.

by Anonymousreply 82February 12, 2024 6:26 AM

Oh, I'm sure she'll put her hoof in her mouth again before the film is released.

by Anonymousreply 83February 12, 2024 6:29 AM

I want to like this, but it indeed does look like a video game… shocking (Mary!) that the 2 seconds of singing included was gospelizing flat singing of one of the most famous notes/moments in modern Broadway history.

by Anonymousreply 84February 12, 2024 6:30 AM

It looks like a screen saver.

by Anonymousreply 85February 12, 2024 7:00 AM

The "greenface" is offensive.

by Anonymousreply 86February 12, 2024 7:11 AM

I will see it for my darling Jonty.

by Anonymousreply 87February 12, 2024 7:15 AM

Well, I think we can conclude that middle-aged and older white gay men are not the target market for this film.

I'll just say Stephen Schwartz is very lucky that his mediocrity is getting a major buffer from a beloved, successful franchise that attracted and excellent production team.

by Anonymousreply 88February 12, 2024 7:39 AM

I thought this was better than I expected. I love Wicked, I’ve been waiting for a movie for years. I wasn’t thrilled with the casting (bar Jonny Bailey, I think he’s brilliant & bang on for Fiyero) but overall, it looks quite promising! Visually, it’s quite cool. But then I’m not a movie geek, don’t know what people are whinging about it feeling ‘flat’?!

My only gripe is WHY are they trying to hide it’s a musical?! It’s one of the biggest musicals of all time. Celebrate it, don’t put two tiny clips of music in the trailer!

by Anonymousreply 89February 12, 2024 8:43 AM

Can’t stand Erivo. Everything about her irritates me. Ariana Grande is truly awful and visibly cross eyed. This will tank because of these two charisma free lumps.

by Anonymousreply 90February 12, 2024 12:02 PM

Oh well, we always have the movie version of Merrily We Roll Along to look forward to.

by Anonymousreply 91February 12, 2024 12:10 PM

It won't tank, r90, because emo teenaged girls and theatre queen kids everywhere love Wicked. It's also a family movie with no sex or violence that parents would take their kids to.

by Anonymousreply 92February 12, 2024 12:14 PM

I’m not a fan of the aesthetic of the Broadway show or really even the Wizard of Oz so wasn’t expecting to like the visuals. I am, however, surprised by how much I hate this casting. As someone mentioned above, you need to believe that Elphaba is young and vibrant and pretty, despite being green. Erivo just looks wrong. No matter her talents, she is not right for the role, something that used to matter.

by Anonymousreply 93February 12, 2024 12:18 PM

So happy so see they've diversity-casted this wonderful play! *giggle*

by Anonymousreply 94February 12, 2024 1:23 PM

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by Anonymousreply 95February 12, 2024 1:24 PM

“In The Heights” was seen by what, three people? Why did they give this enormous property to this totally unproven and unknown director? Bizarre.

Studios are so afraid of musicals, despite the fact that they ruled the box office and awards for decades, they’ll give anyone who has a glancing interest in them a huge project which is well outside the scope of their abilities.

by Anonymousreply 96February 12, 2024 1:34 PM

That’s not saying much R57. She couldn’t even compare to LaChanze in Color Purple. I don’t think anyone other than you is waiting for Erivo’s interpretation with bated breath.

by Anonymousreply 97February 12, 2024 1:46 PM

Wow, you all weren't kidding. What the fuck was that riff? Hopefully they are saving the real riff for the film, because that was abysmal.

by Anonymousreply 98February 12, 2024 1:47 PM

the scream of pain at the end must be from the scene where she melts.

by Anonymousreply 99February 12, 2024 1:50 PM

I was annoyed by her social media antics during The Great Comet, but Erivo was a revelation in The Color Purple revival. She completely erased any memory of LaChanze - hell, Fantasia did that when she replaced her in the original run.

Also the big note in Defying Gravity isn’t in the “war cry” riff at the end, it’s the F in the final refrain.

by Anonymousreply 100February 12, 2024 1:54 PM

[quote]Oh well, we always have the movie version of Merrily We Roll Along to look forward to.

Not all of us.

by Anonymousreply 101February 12, 2024 3:45 PM

[quote]The set designer is Nathan Crowley, who is Christopher Nolan's set designer. He also happens to be the grandson of famed witch Alistair Crowley. So, he knows a thing or two about witches.

No comment.

And hopefully no relation.

by Anonymousreply 102February 12, 2024 3:45 PM

Stephen Schwartz:

"Those two young women, Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande, are absolute world-class singers. They are such talented singing actresses. I think what they are bringing musically to the film is incredibly exciting. I’m just thrilled about it"

by Anonymousreply 103February 12, 2024 4:26 PM

[quote]I cannot stand Erivo. Very hard to look at.

And she has resting smug face. Very punchable. Nobody is going to root for that.

by Anonymousreply 104February 12, 2024 4:37 PM

The CGI in that still is horrendous. This is another Jon M. Chu crapfest. How does he keep getting work? Oh, right, DEI. The banks cut the checks.

by Anonymousreply 105February 12, 2024 4:44 PM

Of course white gays will jerk themselves off to this because of diversity.

by Anonymousreply 106February 12, 2024 4:44 PM

[quote]And she has resting smug face. Very punchable. Nobody is going to root for that.

You'd be surprised.

by Anonymousreply 107February 12, 2024 5:01 PM

This film feels about10 years late. And why did production on it take two or three years? You spent that much time on THAT?

by Anonymousreply 108February 12, 2024 5:02 PM

Was production delayed due to covid?

by Anonymousreply 109February 12, 2024 5:05 PM

What do you expect from the guy who directed “Jen and the Holograms”?

by Anonymousreply 110February 12, 2024 5:06 PM

*Jem

by Anonymousreply 111February 12, 2024 5:06 PM

[quote] Of course white gays will jerk themselves off to this because of diversity.

This one isn’t. Seeing diversity hire Bowen Yang makes me sick. Also, I expect the lead women to be pretty. Elephaba is just plain old and ugly and Glinda looks like a freak.

by Anonymousreply 112February 12, 2024 5:09 PM

I am not someone who wants to hate on everything. I would really like to like this. Sadly, it seems like they made a few insurmountable mistakes.

by Anonymousreply 113February 12, 2024 5:30 PM

Just typing "racism on DL" so this is searchable.

by Anonymousreply 114February 12, 2024 6:07 PM

R68 Holy shit, at 300m this is going to be a game-changing level of flop. Casting, theme, timing, reactions, it seems like everything is building up against this.

by Anonymousreply 115February 12, 2024 7:52 PM

Bowen Yang is in this? Oh man, instant flop.

by Anonymousreply 116February 12, 2024 7:56 PM

[quote]everything is building up against this.

I think the opposite will be true, r115.

by Anonymousreply 117February 12, 2024 7:56 PM

I think Part One will be a decent hit, but then people will have had sufficient—and Part Two will bomb badly.

by Anonymousreply 118February 12, 2024 8:06 PM

[quote] Well, I think we can conclude that middle-aged and older white gay men are not the target market for this film.

Dumb move. With all the risks of bringing a musical to the screen, at least building in a gay audience ensures a movie with a loyal following, repeated views, and one that gets reevaluated over time.

by Anonymousreply 119February 12, 2024 8:07 PM

Bad casting - disastrous. This is going to be a stinker.

by Anonymousreply 120February 12, 2024 8:23 PM

How much did the CGI cost to whiten Ethan Slater's disgusting teeth?

by Anonymousreply 121February 12, 2024 8:24 PM

Who would you have cast, r120?

by Anonymousreply 122February 12, 2024 8:25 PM

I'll wait until I can watch them back to back.

by Anonymousreply 123February 12, 2024 8:30 PM

Ariana is fine. Erivo is too old. How hard is it to find a young black actress who can sing? Or why did it have to be Erivo? Was it promised it her(ten years ago) or something? She looks even older standing next to childlike Ariana Grande. Big mistake, huge.

by Anonymousreply 124February 12, 2024 8:35 PM

None of them look college aged. Aged, yes. College, no.

by Anonymousreply 125February 12, 2024 8:38 PM

Sad haters on this site. Tine will tell, I predict massive hit. Are the bigots ob this site mad because they cast a black woman to play a green woman?

by Anonymousreply 126February 12, 2024 8:55 PM

ESL, R126?

by Anonymousreply 127February 12, 2024 8:56 PM

This film should never have been made. Total shit.

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by Anonymousreply 128February 12, 2024 9:14 PM

And.

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by Anonymousreply 129February 12, 2024 9:15 PM

More woke garbage. Black girl is the victim. White girl the enemy, white guy a criminal.

by Anonymousreply 130February 12, 2024 9:16 PM

She's green, r130. You sound retarted.

by Anonymousreply 131February 12, 2024 9:38 PM

Apparently the original ruby slippers from the Wizard of Oz were used for Wicked.

by Anonymousreply 132February 12, 2024 9:39 PM

There were several pairs of ruby slippers, r132.

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by Anonymousreply 133February 12, 2024 9:47 PM

[quote]None of them look college aged. Aged, yes. College, no.

Finally the pressure is off us.

by Anonymousreply 134February 12, 2024 9:52 PM

[quote]More woke garbage. Black girl is the victim. White girl the enemy, white guy a criminal.

Clearly, you didn't read the book or see the show, as the white girl is the best friend, not the enemy.

The white guy wasn't much better in the original movie if you think about it.

I will aver that it really gives a whole new meaning to "person of color" in this case.

by Anonymousreply 135February 12, 2024 10:00 PM

Poor r130 he’ll probably just come out with more racist crap now.

by Anonymousreply 136February 12, 2024 10:03 PM

[quote]I will aver that it really gives a whole new meaning to "person of color" in this case.

No, r135, it really doesn't.

by Anonymousreply 137February 12, 2024 10:04 PM

Part 1?

by Anonymousreply 138February 12, 2024 10:05 PM

Part 1, r138.

by Anonymousreply 139February 12, 2024 10:08 PM

If the audience can sit through it on one night on Broadway, was does the movie need to be in two parts?

by Anonymousreply 140February 12, 2024 10:13 PM

[quote]was does the movie need to be in two parts?

Two parts = more $$$

by Anonymousreply 141February 12, 2024 10:17 PM

How long is the show?

by Anonymousreply 142February 12, 2024 10:17 PM

Everyone is so unpleasant to look at. Even the people in the crowd scenes.

And who wants to look at a green Cynthia Erivo? The original is bad enough.

by Anonymousreply 143February 12, 2024 10:26 PM

Rumors that they're worried and it's been proposed to go back to one movie.

by Anonymousreply 144February 12, 2024 10:32 PM

[quote]R135: Clearly, you didn't read the book or see the show, as the white girl is the best friend, not the enemy.

It's more complicated than that. Elphaba and Glinda became friends in school, but subsequently their lives and their aims diverged: Elphaba became a terrorist, and Glinda became something of an instrument of the Wizard. After the arrival of Dorothy Gale (and Glinda's giving her Nessarose's shoes), Elphaba ceased to be friends with Glinda.

by Anonymousreply 145February 12, 2024 10:47 PM

[quote]Erivo is too old. How hard is it to find a young black actress who can sing?

It should have been Blue Ivy.

by Anonymousreply 146February 12, 2024 11:19 PM

r144

I hope that's true... it should have never been 2 parts with a year in-between

by Anonymousreply 147February 12, 2024 11:24 PM

r129 And

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by Anonymousreply 148February 12, 2024 11:27 PM

The amazing Alice Fearn is playing Ariana Grande's mother. Her voice is just insane.

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by Anonymousreply 149February 14, 2024 2:14 AM

The movie poster is pretty good. That’s about it.

by Anonymousreply 150February 14, 2024 8:38 AM

[quote]None of them look college aged. Aged, yes. College, no.

What's wrong with that?

by Anonymousreply 151February 14, 2024 8:59 AM

[quote] Thirtysomething Streisand and Redford in THE WAY WE WERE

Yes, but they played their characters from college age into their 30s. That's totally different.

But you knew that.

by Anonymousreply 152February 14, 2024 9:06 AM

[quote] Two parts = more $$$

Just the opposite. They’re already trying to cover up that it’s a musical. Musicals don’t sell.

by Anonymousreply 153February 14, 2024 9:43 AM

[quote] The movie poster is pretty good.

It’s a rip-off of the X-Files posted about.

by Anonymousreply 154February 14, 2024 9:43 AM

Stupid fun fact not really relevant to anything: I knew Eden Espinoza (who played Elphaba on Broadway at some point) in junior high and high school. Sweetest thing in the world and a world class singer even then. My older sister is still friends with her.

by Anonymousreply 155February 14, 2024 10:18 AM

Who’s the little blonde Asian girl at OP?

by Anonymousreply 156February 14, 2024 10:45 AM

This isn’t just DL, R155. The trailer is being eviscerated all across social media. I think a lot of people are disappointed. This seemed like a layup, and maybe it will still pull it off. But there are so many negatives in that trailer alone, it’s hard to see how it does.

by Anonymousreply 157February 14, 2024 11:28 AM

Is that Laverne Cox? I haven’t seen the credits. Quite the career jump.

by Anonymousreply 158February 14, 2024 11:41 AM

Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande look nothing like Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke. Dorothy's slippers are the original silver and the Cowardly Lion almost looks like an actual animal from the back. Seeing as how this is yet another unofficial prequel I'm guessing it precedes the books instead of the 1939 masterpiece.

You know Ariana Grande's anorexia, drug usage and bad plastic surgery are really THAT bad if not even all of the best makeup and CGI in Hollywood can completely mask it for what is clearly a huge big budget production.

Also I'm getting pretty fucking sick of Marc Platt and Lin Manuel Miranda practically controlling Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 159February 14, 2024 11:47 AM

Both women are wrong for their roles. That’s the long and short of it.

by Anonymousreply 160February 14, 2024 12:22 PM

Did Ariana snag a part for her brother? Perhaps one of the Winged Monkeys?

by Anonymousreply 161February 14, 2024 4:39 PM

Frankie Grande is playing the important part of Toto.

by Anonymousreply 162February 14, 2024 4:50 PM

[quote]R159: Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande look nothing like Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke. Dorothy's slippers are the original silver and the Cowardly Lion almost looks like an actual animal from the back. Seeing as how this is yet another unofficial prequel I'm guessing it precedes the books instead of the 1939 masterpiece.

On this subject, when posters refer to "the book," they're not talking about anything L Frank Baum wrote. Nor are they referring to 'the 1939 masterpiece.' There's another book series which completely re-imagined this entire storyline, and it began with 𝐖𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝: 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐞𝐬𝐭 (1995), which led to several sequels and a musical. Comparing it to the 1939 MGM version is a mistake.

Personally, I wish that this was a straight-up adaptation of 'Wicked' the novel rather than the musical, but it is what it is.

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by Anonymousreply 163February 14, 2024 7:37 PM

Yeah, r163, I don't know what rock Chaos has been living under.

by Anonymousreply 164February 14, 2024 7:41 PM

Be kind, R164. I'm just offering him an opportunity to catch up on his own terms.

by Anonymousreply 165February 14, 2024 7:44 PM

Years ago, ABC bought the rights to do a non-musical miniseries adaptation of the Gregory Maguire book. Project probably got canned.

by Anonymousreply 166February 14, 2024 8:41 PM

They both look so hideous and sickly in the OP.

No one's going to want to watch that.

Especially on the big screen.

And pay for it.

by Anonymousreply 167February 14, 2024 11:35 PM

[quote] Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande look nothing like Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke. Dorothy's slippers are the original silver and the Cowardly Lion almost looks like an actual animal from the back. Seeing as how this is yet another unofficial prequel I'm guessing it precedes the books instead of the 1939 masterpiece.

But the Dorothy and the Tin Man in the clip look more like Judy Garland and Jack Haley in the roles than they look like the W. W. Denslow drawings for the original book. So my guess is this film is trying to do homage to both versions. (The stage musical does too--in the Broadway musical, the Silver Shoes are transformed into Ruby Slippers.)

by Anonymousreply 168February 14, 2024 11:40 PM

The original Gregory Maguire book on which this film is ultimately based is much more invested in the 1900 L. Frank Baum children's book than it is in the 1939 M-G-M film adaptation.

by Anonymousreply 169February 14, 2024 11:42 PM

Wicked will do a billion dollars$$$. The Wonka musical is doing $600 million and it didn't have half the hype of Wicked.

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by Anonymousreply 170February 15, 2024 1:52 AM

[quote]Rumors that they're worried and it's been proposed to go back to one movie.

Universal is ecstatic with the movies, and it's still 2 movies. The way some of you haters are scrambling is hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 171February 15, 2024 2:01 AM

R164 I'm not really into musicals or Broadway. I just don't care for a lot of them. I prefer plays and the opera really.

by Anonymousreply 172February 15, 2024 2:49 AM

Now I have thoughts of Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke lezzing out. Great....

by Anonymousreply 173February 15, 2024 5:01 AM

Is any material being added to make it into two movies? I’m assuming the total run time will be four hours between the two movies.

by Anonymousreply 174February 15, 2024 1:09 PM

Terrible casting

by Anonymousreply 175February 15, 2024 2:28 PM

R173 And your little dog, too!

*cackles*

by Anonymousreply 176February 15, 2024 2:37 PM

When someone uses “haters” they lose the debate with me. Looking at you, R171.

I want nothing more than the movies to be fun and strong. But it’s simply true that the casting is strange, at best. No one fits or goes together (Bailey falling for Erivo, green or not? Come on!). And the whole thing looks poorly lit and overly CGIed. Plus that final note? Eek.

It may just be a bad trailer and we all eat crow. I’m heartened by how bad some of the advanced Les Mis footage looked and sounded, and that turned out okay. But pointing out the obvious about this trailer isn’t being a hater. It’s also not a niche position.

by Anonymousreply 177February 15, 2024 5:36 PM

R177 Yes, "haters" is a teenage girl/stan term.

It means they are incapable of having a serious conversation about the topic at hand. They just loooooooovvvvvveeeeee that person, no matter what they do (or don't do, as it were).

by Anonymousreply 178February 15, 2024 6:09 PM

[quote]They just loooooooovvvvvveeeeee that person

And you have a problem with "haters", r178. Uh huh.

by Anonymousreply 179February 15, 2024 6:21 PM

R179 Sorry the concept of "context" is a challenge for you.

The use of "loooooovvvvveeeeeeee" is an indicator of the level of stan behavior and immaturity such a person would possess.

by Anonymousreply 180February 15, 2024 6:26 PM

You seem so...invested, r180.

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by Anonymousreply 181February 15, 2024 6:57 PM
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