Tasteful friends: another Tudor Revival of 12,000sq ft, this one in Tuxedo Park NY,, $5M
Designed by architect William A,. Bates in 1899, this hilltop house of 9-bedrooms on 5-acres includes a separate 3-bedroom guest cottage and 3-bedroom rentable staff quarters. It has been owned by the family for whom it was built until now and is offered for sale after a comprehensive restoration/renovation.
The listing shows and empty house nut for a few rooms with some staged furniture.
It's a bit of a shame so much money was spent on the kitchen to make it look like every other kitchen, but have the cabinetry repainted in something not grey or white and replaced the subpar tile backsplash with good tile and it would be an attractive space. All of the ground floor woodwork was almost certainly stained, but the rooms painted now were first painted many years ago. The setting is grand and the views from the windows and porches.
|February 11, 2024 11:01 PM
Here are some photos of the house from 2019 around which time it was initially offered for half the current price but unrestored/unrenovated.
Link is to Facebook.
|February 11, 2024 12:41 PM
It's nice to see the old pictures. Looks like a place the Roosevelts would have visited. The renovations are well done and in line with modern living
|February 11, 2024 12:47 PM
Been on the market since 2021? Hmmm
|February 11, 2024 12:53 PM
Why would the Roosevelt want to visit Tuxedo Park? Not their kind. Not old money.
|February 11, 2024 12:54 PM
^ The price of admission is only a start, maintenance and a $63,000 a year tax bill have to be considered
|February 11, 2024 1:03 PM
I like it in the photos from 2019 better. The current photos show a house that looks rather sterile. All of the charm has been removed. It looks like a brand new house built in the traditional style.
|February 11, 2024 1:31 PM
Not a bad job overall blending out the Tudor, but it still needs work. Sometimes playing down Tudor features works well, but it does make all that dark stained wood left behind look more conspicuous.
The original kitchen was crummy, yet it was a true country kitchen with a central table doubling as a workspace and would have been fitting for a country house of this size. A kitchen with an open fire would have been great.
|February 11, 2024 1:45 PM
Whether your talking a grand old house like this or some mid-century modern place with a tiny kitchen, the kitchen is usually the one place that doesn't get "restored" because it's the one room that needs to be truly functional. This place already has plenty of fireplaces--it doesn't need one in the kitchen. No one is going to make oatmeal in the hearth in the morning.
|February 11, 2024 1:49 PM
It’s oil heat, Folks. With Central A/C you get ductwork if you switched to an electric furnace.
You would meed windmills and solar to heat that beast.
|February 11, 2024 1:58 PM
It's ok but has a very sad feeling, in its renovated state. Of course renovation is required in a white elephant, but the only way this house can have a good vibe again is to be FILLED with people including a lot of kids and teens, and to see it roughed up just a bit. This seems highly unlikely in this era and in that location. Also as noted, it needs vast solar panels.
|February 11, 2024 2:07 PM
Acres of good Oriental rugs would go a long way, R10.
|February 11, 2024 4:06 PM
R4: "Tuxedo Park is not old money".
You...have never heard of the place, have you.
|February 11, 2024 4:41 PM
^ I blocked r4 for a reason
|February 11, 2024 5:08 PM
The mansion is not as impressive as the beautiful setting
|February 11, 2024 5:09 PM
R12 let’s be clear: to either the Hyde Park Roosevelts or the Oyster Bay Roosevelts, Tuxedo Park would have been nouveau riche. It was developed, as a gated community(!) in the 1880s, more than 200 years after the first Roosevelt arrived in New Amsterdam.
|February 11, 2024 5:14 PM
JFC, that’s beautiful.
The kitchen is amazing, plus it has a library!
|February 11, 2024 5:23 PM
And R4 could not be more mistaken…try harder.
|February 11, 2024 5:50 PM
Correction R13 could not be more mistaken. Your loss.
|February 11, 2024 5:51 PM
By Pierre Lorillard IV for his family and close friends, including William Astor.
|February 11, 2024 5:54 PM
All old money was once new.
Tuxedo Park was founded by industrialist money, but it's had a mix of new and old.money for much of its history.
|February 11, 2024 6:01 PM
And which neither of those two families approached the Roosevelts in social standing.
|February 11, 2024 6:01 PM
R21, you're a dumb cunt.
The Astors and the Roosevelts married into the same clans and ran in the same circles.
The Lorillards turned Newport into a yachting center and were the third oldest business dynasty in the United States after the Astors and the Livingstons.
|February 11, 2024 6:18 PM
I just remember having to add wore mesh to two chimneys at my folks house to keep out squirrels and starlings. Had an idiot sibling who wanted to shoot a squirrel inside of the wood burner - my dad and I tempted it out with peanut butter on crackers inside a box. Had to use a fisherman net for the birds - neices loved it.
All my bs to say - wood fireplaces are a nightmare to maintain and I can’t imagine managing that many. Plus, we’re not supposed to be burning for heat anymore.
|February 11, 2024 6:27 PM
R22 get your head out of your ass and read up on the history of New York…hopefully, you will learn something. Peace out.
|February 11, 2024 6:30 PM
R24, stick your fingers up your asshole and give them a brisk twiddle.
You learning something? Well, let's not wish for the impossible.
|February 11, 2024 6:33 PM
I dislike the stone pillars, but everything else in the house is beautiful (bar the shitty furniture its staged with), even the kitchen is OK, its inoffensive and functional. Its is a bit monochromatic, needs more colour
[quote]Acres of good Oriental rugs would go a long way
R11 is right that would definitely lift it, that and lots of period furniture
|February 11, 2024 8:19 PM
For you Astor fans: HBO isn’t the place to learn history…and as if a tobacco family would be up to snuff with Sara Roosevelt or her extended family. Pun intended.
|February 11, 2024 8:34 PM
One Astor—a girl—married one of the less successful Roosevelts. That doesn’t change the fact that the Roosevelts’ social standing was too high for a tract like Tuxedo Park.
|February 11, 2024 8:42 PM
What is with this stupid fucking cunt and the Roosevelts?
The Astors, the Aldrichs, the Livingstons, the Mills, the Whites, the Stuyvesants, the Delanos, the De Peysers, the Rockefellers and the Roosevelts all intermarried at one level or another.
Tuxedo Park was founded because the Lorillards thought Newport was getting too common. It was designed by Bruce Price and Vaux & Olmstead. It's not some fucking 1980s gated community in New Jersey.
They blackballed the Harriman clan, thus the enormous estate of that same name nearby.
The Vanderbilts? Now THEY were considered trash.
|February 11, 2024 8:54 PM
“It's not some fucking 1980s gated community in New Jersey. “
It’s literally just across the border in Orange County! Same difference 😵💫
|February 11, 2024 9:25 PM
And Riverside Drive is just like Hoboken.
|February 11, 2024 9:29 PM
And your metaphor is inane.
|February 11, 2024 9:32 PM
Looks to be a beautiful neighborhood full of grand old homes. I'd love to see them all. I like the remodel but must envision the place minus any furniture which looks garish against all the beautiful woodwork. These old craftsman homes are always a treat to see. Thank you for sharing, OP.
|February 11, 2024 10:12 PM
There's about 200 houses in Tuxedo Park, most of them dating from the late 1880s to the early 1930s. The majority of them are in a Shingle or Arts & Crafts style, but their are Tudor, Chateauesque, Norman, Neo-Classical and Colonial Revival designs as well. Bruce Price was the original designer, but nearly every major NYC-based firm of the firm is represented.
|February 11, 2024 10:24 PM
I agree that the bright white paint in some rooms contrasts too much with the darkened over time paneling and trim in other rooms. There’s got to be a way to restore that, right? It would be labor intensive and very expensive, but it could be stripped, sanded and restrained, couldn’t it? Bringing it back to what it was 100 years ago?
I also agree that the property and the way the house is sited are the exceptional characteristics, although it is a beautiful house.
It must be nice to be a real estate broker and be able to get a $5 million listings without having to shell out a few hundred to get a floor plan. And it’s Tuxedo Park and the house is empty, so “security concerns” doesn’t pass muster as an excuse for this lapse.
|February 11, 2024 11:01 PM