Trump says he would encourage Russia to attack Nato countries who don’t pay ‘bills’
On Saturday, Trump claimed that during an unspecified Nato meeting he told a fellow head of state that the US under his leadership would not defend any countries who were “delinquent”. “One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, ‘Well, sir, if we don’t pay, and we’re attacked by Russia, will you protect us?’” Trump said, adding “I said, ‘You didn’t pay, you’re delinquent?’”
“No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You got to pay. [bold]You got to pay your bills[/bold].”
Though some doubted whether the conversation in question even took place, Trump’s remarks quickly raised alarm among many political pundits in the US. “Sounds as if Trump is kind of encouraging Russia to attack our Nato allies,” David Corn – an MSNBC analyst and the Washington DC bureau chief of Mother Jones – said on X. Meanwhile, conservative political commentator Alyssa Farah Griffin said Trump’s comments were “music” to the ears of Russian leader Vladimir Putin.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 40 | February 13, 2024 4:40 AM
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Ironic. He's famed for not paying his own bills.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 11, 2024 2:42 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, your next President.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 11, 2024 3:55 AM
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What a guy: “No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You got to pay. You got to pay your bills.”
Anyway, without the United States, the population of NATO is 624 million. And they couldn't stop Russia?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | February 11, 2024 4:15 AM
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We should start expelling all of the MAGAts to Russia.
I'm sure they would love it there.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 11, 2024 4:25 AM
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And his idiot cultists probably cheered.
God, MAGAts are a plague upon humanity
by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 11, 2024 4:37 AM
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No one who has declared bankruptcy should be telling anyone anything about finances, unless they are going to simply say: "Don't be me.".
by Anonymous | reply 8 | February 11, 2024 4:40 AM
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I like this bit:
[italic]"Though some doubted whether the conversation in question even took place"...[/italic]
by Anonymous | reply 9 | February 11, 2024 4:42 AM
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The man is visibly sick. He’s not really running for President. Look at him, if you told me he was undergoing chemo, I’d believe it.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 11, 2024 4:42 AM
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Frankly I think at this point Gavin Newsom could win just by the side by side comparison
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 11 | February 11, 2024 4:46 AM
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Dump also said this:
Speaking to thousands of supporters at an event organized by the National Rifle Association (NRA), Trump promised to rescind a rule curbing sales of gun accessories known as pistol braces and other regulations put in place by the Biden administration.
"Every single Biden attack on gun owners and manufacturers will be terminated my very first week back in office, perhaps my first day," Trump said in a speech at the Great American Outdoor show in Harrisburg, the capital of Pennsylvania.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 12 | February 11, 2024 4:51 AM
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I mean that would have probably have been an effective threat 3 years ago. But now we know they're effectively a wet paper tiger good luck with that
by Anonymous | reply 13 | February 11, 2024 5:00 AM
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The irony of a man who has persistently not paid his bills whenever he could get away with it (his businesses have filed for bankruptcy no less than six times) saying this...........
I also doubt the conversation happened - it just doesn't ring true that a president of a NATO country would say that because it misunderstands how NATO works.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | February 11, 2024 5:07 AM
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I'm honestly surprised that La Cosa Nostra never whacked him for unpaid bills.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 11, 2024 5:09 AM
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Remember when Kevin McCarthy said Putin pays Trump?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 11, 2024 5:10 AM
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Also, Trump cannot unilaterally pull the US out of NATO without congressional approval so good luck with that (many Republican senators and reps will not sign up for that).
WaPo Dec 2023:
[quote]Congress this week approved a measure aimed at preventing any U.S. president from unilaterally withdrawing the United States from NATO without congressional approval. Passage came amid long-standing concerns that Donald Trump may try to exit the alliance if he returns to office. The provision was included in the National Defense Authorization Act, an annual bill detailing defense policy, which was passed by the House on Thursday and is awaiting the signature of President Biden. Under the measure, advocated by Sens. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), the president would be prohibited from withdrawing from NATO without the approval of two-thirds of the Senate or separate legislation passed by Congress.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | February 11, 2024 5:13 AM
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donald speaks openly to his one-person audience, Putin.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | February 11, 2024 5:28 AM
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Trump is doing his The Wall populist schtick again. Saying stuff that he can't do and his dumb voters eat it up.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | February 11, 2024 5:31 AM
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We’re all gonna find out if he can do it or not.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | February 11, 2024 5:35 AM
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[quote]We’re all gonna find out if he can do it or not.
I'm 100% sure that he can't if he needs two-thirds of senators to approve it. Even if it was mathematically possible, a lot of senators are pro-military and pro-NATO, not Trumpers. They are not going to vote for it.
Sorry Putin and Putin-lickers. It's not going to happen.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | February 11, 2024 5:39 AM
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R17 that reminded me of Tim Kaine - he and Hillary got more votes in 2016, he looks more palatible to rust belt men than Kamala, and he's a youthful 65. Can we swap him out with Kamala - or Joe, for that matter?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 11, 2024 7:01 AM
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*palatable
Sorry, it only looked funny after I'd pressed reply.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 11, 2024 7:02 AM
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R23, I guarantee most people couldn't name Hillary's running mate - I probably couldn't if you hadn't mentioned his name. Totally forgettable.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 11, 2024 7:53 AM
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R25, he was a total non-entity.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 11, 2024 7:54 AM
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Russia ain't shit. We really need to be scared of whoever they sold their stolen weapons to. What a garbage people. My biggest disappointment was my DNA test results teeming with Russian
by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 11, 2024 8:04 AM
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[quote] Russia ain't shit.
Obama basically said just this and he was right. Russia is nothing more than a regional bully. Their best days are long behind them.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | February 11, 2024 8:07 AM
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[quote]“One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, ‘Well, sir, if we don’t pay, and we’re attacked by Russia, will you protect us?’” Trump said, adding “I said, ‘You didn’t pay, you’re delinquent?’”
I'll bet that was Macron. President of a large country. I'm sure Macron hated Dump.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 11, 2024 8:29 AM
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This is a good tweet:
[italic]"US Republicans might wish to remember that the only time ever Art 5 of the Nato treaty was invoked was right after 9/11 : allies went on alert to help defend the US - and US civilian and military facilities in Europe and beyond, including airfields, headquarters, embassies, etc.".[/italic]
Then those same countries (including non-NATO allies like Australia) helped the US invade Iraq and Afghanistan based on total lies. And it was an unmitigated disaster...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 30 | February 11, 2024 8:33 AM
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[quote] You got to pay your bills.”
He stiffed a whole bunch of contractors back in his day in the '80s and early '90s. I'm honestly surprised he's still alive.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | February 11, 2024 8:50 AM
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[quote]I'm honestly surprised that La Cosa Nostra never whacked him for unpaid bills. AND I'm honestly surprised he's still alive.
There's still time. It's a good time for it right now.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | February 11, 2024 9:05 AM
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R32, true. And La Cosa Nostra [bold]NEVER[/bold] forgets. They'll bill you down to every cent and penny, plus interest.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | February 11, 2024 9:13 AM
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The Orange Sweetums can have as much of my poosey as he wants. The problem is that ladybugs bitch always stands in the way.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | February 11, 2024 9:32 AM
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Whenever Trump is recounting something said to him, the other person is always extremely deferential. They always call him Sir at least once.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | February 11, 2024 10:11 AM
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LOL
Sez the swindler who has filed his companies for bankruptcy many times and is notorious for stiffing his lawyers.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 11, 2024 10:48 AM
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I'll bet you anything Trump received some 'warnings' from some fellas for his unpaid bills. Maybe that's what drove him into the arms of the Russians? Protection in exchange for doing their bidding.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | February 13, 2024 3:58 AM
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How about Russia invade Mar-a-Lago for unpaid bills.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | February 13, 2024 4:30 AM
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And we gave the nuclear codes to this unspeakable bastard.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | February 13, 2024 4:36 AM
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