Are people who move to states in the desert like AZ, NV, stupid because of climate change and the ciris?

It's Las Vegas. Everything's a gamble.

I live in Phoenix. Californians seem to be moving here in droves, and the cost of living is rising. Summers are longer every year. I hope to relocate to a slightly more temperate climate like New Mexico, or even the Midwest.

Climate migration is going to become a huge thing, for sure.

Yes.

Water is soon to be the new oil.

A friend of mine lives in Phoenix and loves it.

Besides the godawful heat, I can't imagine driving forever just to get across town.

I’ll google “ciris” and get back to you.

We have plenty of fresh water and you will have to pay dearly for it.

Some dipshits are leaving warm weather states and moving to Duluth, MN. A place with maybe 8-10 weeks a year of nice weather. I’ve been many times. It’s a place nobody use to move to.

Until there's a great loss of life on the coasts, people will move there. I live in Louisiana which is almost in the same boat as Florida, due to all the claims from hurricanes. Homeowners are going "bare" in FL, no home insurance or very limited.

When I moved to Phoenix I bought a new build for $188,850. 4bed/bath with a pool. 2612 sq.ft.

This was 20 years ago. Now it's worth about 600k. No regrets. The heat is bad but I hate snow and I live in a good neighborhood.

Ciri, why are people moving to phoenix?

The West has run out of water, these storms will not be permanent, yet they move to Phoenix and Las Vegas, Los Angeles etc. in droves.

And the taboo against saying, “Oh, no” when a pregnancy is announced is still firmly in place.

They're fleeing the high cost of living in California, and willing to trade for the awful summers and the redneck neighbors.

Better them than me!

Arizona is fucked. In an attempt to drive business and attract more residents ( one goes hand in hand with the other) they let the Construction industry/ building New Homes- and all it's corollary Sub-contracting industries dominate the economy for 25 years. I lived in North Central AZ for 20 years and saw first hand how when Track Housing engulfed the Phoenix Valley, the same land Developers simply moved North. It wasn't just that they developed Housing Communities to house Tens of thousands of residents over and over ahain-they did it while completely bullshitting the Water -Right deeds for the needs of such communities. Believe me when I say, the Chambers of Commerce in AZ cities and towns, made the most unscrupulous deals with Land Developers, KNOWING the water wouldn't be there. Now all over the state former older ranches and more rural communities are having an epidemic of wells run dry- but the promised "Water Rights" to newer developments are compromising access to modern water access for these areas.

Oh, but sure, Retirees and escapees from California flock like lemmings to the State in hopes of living in their MAGA-centric new Paradise- but someone forgot to tell all these Westward travelling transplants that some of the Greatest lakes in the West ( Anyone ever heard of the Great Salt Lake,) and similar in Arizona are as arid and barren as the desert itself.

Even worse- the region's one steady source of Water for four Western States -the Colorado River, has experienced great drops in water levels from years of drought at it's head in California.

And guess what? California wants to cut off the spigot ( or greatly restrict the flow of the Colorado) for their own State's needs.

Oh Shit, what are Grandma and Grandpa in Scottsdale gonna do when there's no extra water to irrigate their Golf Courses or the States Corporate Agrarian interests sucking up 75% of the State's quota??

So much bad info in this sentence: Even worse- the region's one steady source of Water for four Western States -the Colorado River, has experienced great drops in water levels from years of drought at it's head in California.

Its head is in Colorado. Your head must be up your ass.

Seven states get water from the Colorado, not four.

And it is but one of several sources of water for California. It supplies barely a third of the water for SoCal.

Everyone believes the cost of living and inflation on Californians but that's not correct. It's just inflation.

Ish sho shunee, vayish!

I thought California has plenty of snowmelt water after the last two winters. Didn't those blizzards that dumped all that snow and rain last winter and this winter replenish their aquifers and reservoirs?

Anyway, I'll be long dead before the shit hits the fan, but the Great Lakes, long-term, may in trouble. Hydrologists have, for many years, measured the production of ice on Lake Superior and the other GLs.

It's trending down.

That's bad news. Ice is needed to protect the bio life that thrives underneath it. Wamer GLs water also can host a form of algae that is bad for bio-life and can render water non-potable (unpotable?)

Any notion that the GLs are going to be a centuries-into-the-future, long-term solution to fresh water needs, well, there's something to worry about.

But then again, we'll all be long dead. Sucks to be you, future generations.

Wamer- Warmer

As mentioned California‘s water comes from several sources…

[quote]They're fleeing the high cost of living in California, and willing to trade for the awful summers and the redneck neighbors.

Yes, everyone not from California is a redneck. There are no good places to live.

^^^ Hon, try and keep up. We were talking about Californians moving to Arizona - a state full of magats.