Meet the cast of Survivor 46

The new era continues … with no hot men.

Who’s watching tonight?

Nah, that's okay. But thanks.

^ I’ll be recording. I don’t have the attention span to watch a 2-hour reality show in one sitting.

The former football player is pretty handsome

That Indian(?) dude is very loud and almost manic. I've had to mute him when he starts talk-yelling.

Tevin seems exhausting also.

Liz Wilcox looks like a final four.

I'll pass.

Looking at that line-up: no

I think Bahnu is gay.

Stop it, Elsbeth. I was already gonna watch your show.

No hotties. Pass.

The blond science teacher is hot. I'm sure Tevin is enjoying 'working' with him and teaching him how to "sing!"

I think Venus aka Parvati-lite is going to go far (final 4, or possibly winning).

She's getting the villain edit early-on and had a lot of screen time in the premiere.

No eye candy. I guess I'll still watch it.

R15, ugh, I hope not. And it's 2024 -- can we get a gay male version of a Parvati, who sluts around, playing footsies with all the straight bros?

Any gay man on this edition, otherwise I may pass and just keep up with it on this thread

I didn't see a thread on it, but Boston Rob is a contestant on the new NBC show deal or no deal Island

R18, there is at least one gay man and possibly others.

The obviously gay one is a black actor from Richmond, VA. Verges into “Yassss!” territory pretty often so I expect some good quotes from him.

The one I have strong suspicions about is an Indian IT guy from where I forget. It’s unlikely he’s out as an Indian immigrant to America but he extremely expressive and makes these very dramatic faces while gesturing expressively with his hands in interviews.

There is a young white Alex Keaton-type law student from Manchester-By-The-Sea, MA who reads as gay but has a girlfriend. Huge Taylor Swift fan. I think he’s cute as a button and if he weren’t a 26 year-old Harvard grad I think he was just struggling to find the courage and or was from an unwelcoming environment. I’ve checked out his Instagram and he has a very handsome dad and they make a very Nifty father and son, if you get the reference.

The ostensibly straight science teacher had a weird moment with the black gay actor which made me wonder a little about him.

Many of the men on this season scramble my gaydar, but I'm not finding that an unusual occurrence as the Survivor male contestants become increasingly younger than me...

R15 - She’s trying too hard.

I think this is a good cast.

Hunter and the young law student are sufficiently cute.

The premiere was a good introduction to the cast, which is a little stronger than previous New Survivor casts.

Jelinsky was an obvious first vote. What an idiot.

As soon as Jelinsky started referring to himself as a Survivor legend, I figured he was a goner. And the edit of Jess scrambling not to get the votes, while Jelinsky was getting his hair did was also telling.

You should listen to Jelinsky’s interview with Rob Cesternino on Rob Has a Podcast. He’s very confident and thought he was a real threat. He even claimed it was Q’s idea to quit the Sweat penalty task, not his. Rob, who’s always very respectful to the players, wondered aloud after the interview was over and Jelinsky was gone, why he threw the hourglass then and not Q?

Why don’t the local cannibals, just does us all a big favor, and eat these people

Half of this cast is mentally certifiable and I'm loving it!

I’m available, r17!

The second episode was pretty dull. I found myself skipping forward often. Casting for this season seems like it went for the weirdest people it could find.

Is it that the producers needed to fill out the two hours or was their some hidden reason they included the banal exchanges between the two women, Liz & Mo, from the different tribes who each sat out the challenge? I don't recall seeing such banter shown in prior seasons.

Probst has made it clear, from listening to his On Fire podcast, that the show is interested in trying new things this season. That doesn’t just include challenge-related changes.

R33, I don't know see including the banter I noted as "trying new things." I was thinking that maybe these two women later have some history together, so the editors wanted to see their introductions to each other.

Kenzie seems quite the mean girl. I suspect she'll go far.

Miss Queen of a million hearts Bhanu has GOT to be gay.

Three episodes in and I have had more than my fill of Bhanu. He needs to go and whoever cast him needs to be fired pronto.

#WhinyLittleBitch

Note to Bhanu: In all 45 previous seasons of Survivor, they have never hidden an immunity idol under a coconut.

Bhanu seems like a good guy, but he's all wrong for Survivor. He probably applied for the show just to be on it, but the thought of having to play the game never occurred to him until he hit the beach.

OMG this is just pathetic.

Yes, Bhanu’s meltdown was hard to watch.

Bhanu mentioned a partner in his going away speech. I’m assuming gay but does anyone know for sure

That was just sad. Why is everyone cast now either unattractive or a loser?

I’m loving this season and the cast. I like Bhanu’s casting because he was such an original character that we haven’t really seen on the show that I can recall.

I'm starting to want Charlie inside me quite deeply (well, as deeply as he can go).

So far this season has been a snooze for me but that always happens when one tribe continually loses so you’re stuck focusing on the same people week after week until they either shuffle tribes or merge.

Charlie is absolutely adorable. Q is a butterface but that body! Bhanu was surprisingly stacked as well but he was so nuts I couldn’t find him attractive

Thank God Bhanu is gone. I’m sure he’s a nice guy in his real life, but what a mess he was on the show! He needed a vicious face slapping.

Yes, R46, Q and Bhanu both have amazing physiques, and I think they're both reasonably attractive, facially. Loved Bhanu's body hair. He might be a good, loyal friend in real life or too much to handle, it's hard to tell. Scolding God for getting him on the show but not letting him go far was a bit much.

Personally I prefer Hunter overall of this season's men, and he actually seems like a good person outside of the game.

Oh how delighted I was that the unlikable Jem, with her unused idol, was sent home.

Charlie is delicious but he is ostensibly straight while liking the girliest stuff like Taylor Swift and salsa dancing.

No, give me tech twunk Carson from two seasons ago. Here he is, marketing his puzzle brand in the pool.

Little slut.

I listened to a recent podcast interview with Carson and he still claims to be straight. It's a gay podcast so it was a safe place to be out but maybe he hasn't figured himself out yet.

No Asians?

I swear, there were people last night that I’ve never seen before.

R51, I get upper-class Evangelical vibes from his parents/family so he might still be wrestling with the hellfire and damnation aspect of coming out.

His favorite musician is Sia for goodness sake. It’s a vanishingly small chance he’s actually straight.

If the merge is next week, then this season had a really boring pre-merge, with most of the focus on the Yanu tribe's slow implosion and Bhanu's inability to play/understand the game despite being a superfan.

[quote]Oh how delighted I was that the unlikable Jem, with her unused idol, was sent home.

Jem tricking the rest of her tribe into rooting around for an idol clue that wasn't there backfired. She wanted to create general suspicion and mistrust but didn't realize that it would land on her? Dumb move when you're already the weakest player.

[quote]No Asians? -Cancel

There was one Chinese American. She was voted off right quick as they often are.

The merge episode didn't even bother hiding that Moriah was going home.

I didn't want Soda to go. I wanted Venus out, although she's becoming increasingly unintentionally hilarious with how self-unaware she is.

I love when Maria was trying to give her a motherly pep talk, and Venus' takeaway from that was: she's just old and jealous.

I’ll be happy to see Q go soon.

Venus will somehow find herself in the final because there will always be bigger targets along the way

[quote]I wanted Venus out, although she's becoming increasingly unintentionally hilarious with how self-unaware she is.

I loved how Venus thought that she was one who engineered the blindside of Soda when it was actually Tevin's doing.

I don't care for Tevin, but he is playing a pretty good game.

WTF with that tribal council?!!!

I’m as mystified as you, R42.

They should have let Q go. He wants to be the boss of the tribe and gets all butthurt when things don't go his way. Then he makes himself the center of attention. His behavior would get old fast if I was playing the game.

While it’s apparent that Q thinks he’s a mob boss in his confessionals, I’m not so sure that’s as evident to the others.

Assuming this link is accurate, Q describes himself as:

[quote] Name three of your favorite hobbies: Fishing, riding four-wheelers/jet skis, building houses

Also, believe it or not, the same things my six year-old nephew told me when I asked him what he wanted to be he became a big boy!

[quote]List three adjectives that best describe yourself: Brave, polite, proud

See Cub Scout nephew referenced above.

[quote] How would your friends describe you? I think my friends would describe me as the crazy, risk-taking friend. They would probably add that I am the luckiest person they know. Most importantly, they would describe me as someone they can count on.

That girl that I always ended up behind in the cafeteria line in high school wrote something very similar in the back of my yearbook. She also added, “Stay Sweet” written in particularly flowery script which took up almost a quarter of prime real estate in the autograph pages of that yearbook.

Cunt.

[quote] What risks have you taken in your life to make a change for the better, even if the outcome wasn’t planned? I started taking risks early in life. Being 1 of 17 kids you have to take risks. Biggest risk that changed my life for better would have to be quitting my job to start my career in real estate.

I had a friend named Julie who had this same story. She thought she had a great job, but she got approached in a Food Lion one night by an Amway salesman and three months later she’d quit drinking, quit her job, and got into to selling Rainbow Vacuum Clearers, which, if you had a good doctor you could get a prescription for and count that $1800 vacuum cleaner off on your taxes as a medical expense!

And then she died.

[quote] What is the accomplishment you are most proud of? Being the first person in my entire family to graduate college.

Oh my Dear Lord!

[quote] What is something we would never know from looking at you? 1) I can eat 2 boxes of pizza in one sitting by myself. 2) That I can swim. 3) I am a joy to be around (what people tell me).

1)I don’t know what a box of pizza really is, but I have a sneaking suspicion it has something to do with strained pasta 2) Racist 3)No one actually has ever told him what a joy he was to be around and if they did see #2

[quote] What past Survivor would you play the game most like? Bits and pieces from a lot of players.

Translate: I applied for Big Brother, Batchelor/Bachelorette, Amazing Race with my college teammate, and whatever this show is, but I’m really happy to be here Phil!

This guy was a middling D1 athlete. He doesn’t know anything but team. He thinks he’s the quarterback now, but he’s just still an OL. Their building him up in the edit because they finally got a fit black guy past the merge but he ain’t winning.

I liked Q up until the last few episodes, but this has been quite the fall from grace. It was stupid enough to judge people as threats based on playing hide and seek and just came across as vindictive to claim they had made a huge mistake by essentially beating him in the game.

But to attempt to self-eliminate when the wind isn't blowing your way is pathetic. He revealed himself as a petty man-child. It's hilarious that the tribe didn't let him go, though. I think that's the first time that's happened, isn't it?

I think their keeping Q was a good strategic move. He is no longer a threat as he now comes off a volatile and unstable - qualities tribe mates do not like.

He will make it to the Final 3, and get zero votes. As he pleads his case, the other two will remind the jury (as if they will need a reminder), that he asked to be voted off, in essence quitting. Juries do not award quitters.

The entire episode was batshit crazy. Q's logic with the hide and seek game and him blowing up tribal council were both a giant Dumpster fire. Q and Venus are both horrible players who will never win, but they're good TV.

Criticizing Q? BIG MISTAKE. Christmas is canceled! No Q apron for you.

The black players are being eliminated right on schedule.

Why they don't establish an alliance I can only guess. Get rid of Hunter, what is wrong with you people??

Well, shit.

Hunter had no social game, so I don't see him as much of a threat as other players. Still, he was dumb not to play his idol. Watch Venus win this whole thing LOL

R74, LOL!!! Yeah, Venus the self-deluded mastermind of all the blindsides. She really seems totally clueless. And wow, Kenzie voted for Q. I thought she was part of the blindside against Hunter.

Charlie profiled in his law school magazine.

Charlie & his sister are both in the same law school class.

I wish they would show more of the discussion that actually determines tribal council voting. It may ruin the "surprise," but there are times when the viewer doesn't understand why the voting goes as it does. Last night, was everyone in on the vote to get out Hunter by splitting the votes, and only Q was clueless, or did the four who voted for Hunter do so in secret, confident that the other four were set on voting Q out? It will no doubt be revealed in the next episode, but the opacity at times like this can be frustrating. Did the entire tribe hoodwink Hunter, or only half the tribe?

I marvel at Charlie Davis' hair, most of the time it looks like it just had a comb ran through it with some styling gel.

I didn't like him at first, seemed so typical college frat boy but he has won me over, especially now that Hunter is gone.

Hunter seemed so smart. But now that some knew he had an idol AND that his name was tossed around, why, WHY take the chance.

Voted off with an idol in your pocket is idiocy.

Hunter was getting a great edit, possibly even a winner's edit. But I guess not. At this point, I really couldn't guess who wins, since no one is getting a strong enough edit. Q and Venus have no chance. Charlie and Kenzie are getting good edits, but neither has done anything that screams "winner." Ben, Liz, Maria and Tiffany are all just kind of there.

The New Survivor seasons have followed very similar patterns of having a really boring pre-merge game, and then getting much better in the post-merge portion.

[quote] Hunter seemed so smart.

Hunter is smart, from his bio:

What is the accomplishment you are most proud of? Making it through all my school without making anything below an A. I graduated college in 3.5 years.

Charlie is a Harvard grad and on law review and an athlete. He could win it all based on smarts.

I mistakenly thought Charlie was Harvard undergrad & law.

I love Tiff. She's hilarious, tells it straight, and is the voice of reason on her cuckoo tribe.

Were Hunter and Q doing the swirl on that island?

We need Survivor: Death Match

The last one living wins.

Just kidding, in a surprise twist, he/she gets killed in front of the live audience at the end. .

Survivor 50 will be all returning players, the link doesn't announce anyone specific returning just that it will be all returning players.

I listen to Rob (Cesternino) has a Podcast. Rob and Steven Fishbach (former player and a regular of Rob’s) think Charlie and Kenzie will be in the final 2. I tend to agree.

I wish cute rocket scientist Dave from the Amazon season would come back. I had such a crush on him.

I want cute twink rocket scientist in training, Carson from last season to return.

Good lord, Applebee's Sanctuary along with Liz's tantrum may be the nadir of this show.

In an hour long episode Liz's rant wouldn't have made the cut.

Hey Liz an Applebee’s endorsement, stat.

[quote] In an hour long episode Liz's rant wouldn't have made the cut.

I disagree. That was epic. And it proved great cover for the blindside.

I didn't say it wasn't epic just there wouldn't have been time for it, maybe cut down some but a lot of time was devoted to that.

Okay

And Liz was okayokayp

[quote] I didn't say it wasn't epic just there wouldn't have been time for it, maybe cut down some but a lot of time was devoted to that.

I agree it may have been cut down a bit, but it was too raw - as well as key cover for the blindside - not to make it in some form.

Charlie better keep winning Immunity because with Hunter gone Charlie put a huge target on his back.

Aren't there now 2 hidden immunity idols back out in the jungle to find given the last 2 players voted off, each left with one IN THEIR POCKET !!! Doh!

Yes, there should be two—Hunter's and Tiff's. Though, I don't think anyone knows about Hunter's idol.

Hunter told them he had an idol but since he didn't play it they think he was lying.

Q, Charlie and Kenzie will make the final three. Everyone hates Q, but they recognize it's better to knock out bigger targets since Q has no chance of winning. Or maybe he does -- Q winning this season would make it the best of the new era.

As for Liz: Well ... after having a meltdown over Applebee's of all things ... it's not hard to see why her marriage failed.

Definitely Team Charlie.

Does Probst have hemorrhoids? That is why he is bringing a cushion to Tribal.

Another one voted out with an unused idol.

I think that’s three in a row voted out with an idol in their pockets. This is definitely a season of blindsides .

Since Venus didn't tell anyone that she had an idol, no one will know to go look for it. Hunter's idol should also be out there somewhere.

I’m pretty sure Charlie knows, that’s why there was that one random vote, maybe to split it between Q and another person if she played it. Did anyone watch next week’s highlights and the breakdown of who voted for whom.

Ben was the one with the random vote for McKenzie.

Ben voted for “Kinsey” and everyone else voted for “Venise”.

Frau-y, wishy-washy Maria gets on my nerves. She needs to go next.

Tiresome program. Just hand Q the million now, you de-sexed flock of capons.

There's no possibility that Q would ever win.

If Maria drags Q to the final with her she won't get single vote.

Not a chance, R115. There's a long history of winners bringing the weakest competitors to the end with them.

Maria is now getting a villain edit. I think her shots of winning are dead.

I would love Q to go to the end. I want to hear his jury speech, and the whole jury go "what the fuck did he just say?"

[quote]I think that’s three in a row voted out with an idol in their pockets. This is definitely a season of blindsides .

I think it’s a testament to the quality of game play. I used to bemoan the lack of eye candy but now I’m really enjoying this season because of the colorful personalities and interesting game play.

It is hardly a testament to game play. Venus should have played her idol. If you find an idol, play it.

[quote]There's a long history of winners bringing the weakest competitors to the end

They're called the 'goat'.

What was Maria thinking with that Rock Paper Scissors crap?

Maria was trying to not get anyone mad at her for picking one and not the other, but it blew up in her face.

Even before the reward nonsense Maria was losing the plot. Don't brag about the great move you made to the tribe, talk about sticking your head above the parapet. Save that for the camera crew. Always downplay your part in moves until you're talking to the jury.

r123 That was ridiculous. She picked Q who had just eaten Applebees the day before instead of the girl allergic to everything who had not eaten in weeks. Even the other players were like "I'm out pick Liz, she needs it" and still she made them play Rock Paper Scissors. At that point, I would not have played called her a fucking cunt and said "Everyone knows this is her number one." This season is full of shitty players all going home with idols in their pockets. Q is going to win this thing. He begged people to write his name down and still no one sent him home. He is the Trump of Survivor. He could shit in the rice and no one would get rid of him

He wasn’t sent home because the others no that no jury is going to award a would-be quitter.

^the others know

r127 nah all he has to do is say it was strategy and look I am still here. Maria is an idiot if she thinks people will vote for her.

Kenzie is my pick to win. Not that anyone asked!

Unless Kenzie engineers the ouster of Charlie or Maria, she hasn't done a single thing to merit winning.

I am for Q to win now as much as I hate him. The rest of these people are pathetic. I am tired of the woman whining about nothing to eat because she is allergic to everything. You knew that and yet you still went so that is on you. The rest are just stupid, afraid of someone who has an idol. If they have an idol and you know it just vote for them one vote to get out someone else.

At this point, Q winning wouldn't be the worst outcome. As long as it isn't Liz or Maria. Or even Ben, who is just kind of there. Charlie, Q, and Kenzie being final three would be interesting. The editing hasn't really favored anyone to win yet.

This has managed to be a strong season, despite the pre-merge being The Bhanu Meltdown Show. One of the reasons is that the advantages/twists (idols, extra votes, etc.) haven't really influenced the game. It feels like an older season of Survivor.

I don’t want to hear any more about Liz’s shits, or lack thereof.

If Liz is a juror, I would think the finalist that promises her an Applebee's dinner will be enough to get her vote. Maybe she can draw the finalists into a bidding war.

[quote] I don’t want to hear any more about Liz’s shits, or lack thereof.

Liz doesn't give a shit what you want, she is too full of it to care.

APPLEBEES IS MY NIGHT WITH MY DAUGHTER WE BONDED OVER THAT MUSHROOM BURGER....APPLEBEES APPLEBEES APPLEBEES (did I say it enough? Will I get 100K from Applebees now?"

According to the link "Liz was bullied and mute as a child."

Could we go back to this muteness.

APPPPLLLLEEEEBEEEEEESSSSS!

R130, true. I feel the same way about Charlie though. He's just been Maria's shadow and he had a chance to disassociate himself from her game this episode and he flubbed it.

I think Charlie WILL ditch Maria next episode. He's playing a very astute social game imo and he's won 2 challenges, enough for a good 'resume' but not too many to be a target. I think he has a good chance of winning. Unless the edit is leaving it out, Charlie hasn't done anything hateful and isn't taking things personally.

R140, I hope you're right! I want Maria gone.

Liz is no longer full of shit, she had a BM.

Fuck you, Maria.

I don't watch Young Sheldon, but did they just spoil the finale in the ad?

Charlie said he was 5 foot 10 inches and he is the tallest person left, these people are short.

[quote] I don't watch Young Sheldon, but did they just spoil the finale in the ad?

It has been known for quite a while that the Dad would die in the series finale.

The fourth person voted off in a row with an idol in their pocket. Unbelievable.

Maria now knows that she’s next if she doesn’t win the next immunity.

I started out not liking Charlie but I am completely Team Charlie now, I had stopped picking favorites in past seasons because I always ended up disappointed. Hope I am not this season. Go Charlie, hope that doesn't put a curse on him.

Team Charlie! I was sure he had screwed himself when he made his decision to tell Maria that the plan was to vote off Q, sure she would let Q know so he could use his idol. But Maria was confident that Charlie was being blindsided. Very satisfying episode.

I think that if Charlie doesn't win immunity, and Maria does, he's a goner. No one wants to sit next to him at the final.

I think they all like Charlie ten times more than Maria, so if it comes down to getting rid of either Charlie or Maria, then Maria is a goner. After that Charlie better win immunity.

Will Maria - the only one who knew Q had an idol - be the only looking for an idol? Or is it too late in the game for idols?

I think they can have an idol next time. There was something said about until or after 5 people left? Otherwise, why wouldn't Q use it tonight?

Yeah, that sounds right, R153. So Maria will have the advantage of likely being the only one looking for an idol.

CBS gives the winner of Survivor, The Amazing Race and even this new show The Summit a million dollars, but Big Brother which lasts longer and has more episodes the winner still only gets $750,000. Wonder why.

I like that Big Brother happens in real time.

Big Brother is like a vacation compared to the other reality shows you mentioned, r155. They lay around all day and nap, occasionally do challenges, and if they lose they have to eat oatmeal. They don't really deserve the same amount of money.

CBS doesn’t really produce any of the shows. The Summit and Survivor are produced by Mark Burnett’s old company. I’m assuming the companies themselves set the prize money.

[quote] Big Brother is like a vacation compared to the other reality shows you mentioned, [R155]. They lay around all day and nap, occasionally do challenges, and if they lose they have to eat oatmeal. They don't really deserve the same amount of money.

However the time commitment of the contestants for Big Brother is much longer, normally at least 100 days, all the other shows only take a little over a month of the contestants time. They are basically sent to prison, with a bunch of annoying people there is no getting away from with no TV, internet, radio or reading material. While the ratings for BB aren't as great it provides three nights of programing hence three nights of commercials and one would assume more profits for CBS. Plus the $750,000 is an increase from $500,000 just a couple of seasons ago.

[quote] CBS gives the winner of Survivor, The Amazing Race and even this new show The Summit a million dollars, but Big Brother which lasts longer and has more episodes the winner still only gets $750,000. Wonder why.

Does anyone who what the other Survivor contestants and Amazing Race teams, who don't win receive? What's the prize for coming in second? They must win something, right? I imagine even the first person/team voted off/eliminated gets something for participating.

The winner of Survivor receives a grand prize of $1,000,000. Second Place: The second-place contestant typically receives a consolation prize of $100,000. Third Place: The third-place contestant is awarded $85,000

Amazing Race $1 million earned by the team in first place, the runners-up get $25,000 between them. The team in third earns $10,000

The prize money is usually coordinated with the sponsors. Applebees gets product placement in Survivor and boy did they get product placement this year! They got their 1 million worth.

Another one goes home with an idol in their pocket. This season must be the season of morons. At least Maria knows she is next and dude knows she voted for him. BFF my ass!

[quote] At least Maria knows she is next and dude knows she voted for him.

But will Maria be the only one looking for Q's newly-hidden idol?

Don't sleep on Kenzie. She has a lot of friends over on that jury and Survivor is, ultimately, a social, popularity contest at the end of the day.

r164 no idol was played so they all know another one is hidden.

[quote]no idol was played so they all know another one is hidden.

Or they think someone still in the game is holding on to it?

Voting out Q? Big mistake. No Q Skirt for you. Christmas is canceled.

Either Charlie or Kenzie win the whole thing. I lean toward Charlie.

Speaking of which, why is Charlie's hair always styled?

Liz is an insane narcissist. She only cares about getting her way. Her allergies are probably just her being a picky eater. She can't eat any fruit but crappy Chinese food is OK? Come on.

Ben making final five is kind of disappointing. He's just ... there. He seems like a nice guy, but he's just barely played the game.

It's true, I'm always skeptical of people who have allergies that prevent them from eating huge swaths of healthy food. I once had a friend who was allergic "to all things green" plus most fruits and vegetables of other colors. She used to say salads would kill her, and about the only vegetables that were safe for her to eat were potatoes, carrots, and onions. I rolled my eyes at her pronouncements for years.

But just like Liz, she could shovel down just about any junk fast food without a problem.

What has Kenzie done to earn a win?

R170, of the remaining players, I think only Maria and Liz have made successful strategic moves, and I don't want either one to win.

APPPPLEEEBEEEESSSS! I WIN.

Off topic what loser do we think Sia will give 100K to this year?

R173, Bhanu! Duh.

^^I mean he did win a million hearts instead of a million dollars.🤣

[quote]only Maria and Liz have made successful strategic moves

What has Liz done beside telling everyone she's rich and allergic?

r176 Uh, she screamed Applebees for 20 minutes. Duh.

R177 Yeah, that too. She's rich, allergic and shilling for Appleby's.

The "last four in a row," Jeff?

I wonder if anyone skips the whole season and just tunes in for the finale?

Charlie has the best hair I have ever seen on Survivor.

If they don’t vote Liz off immediately than they all deserve to lose and she deserves to win.

wtf just happened?

Applebee’s girl made a good strategic play, is what just happened.

[quote] If they don’t vote Liz off immediately than they all deserve to lose and she deserves to win.

Do you mean Maria?

Yes R185, sorry

Ben's a threat?!

LOL Maria trying to cast Ben as a threat to win was ridiculous. Also, she's fucking obnoxious.

she gone

Who is the bigger mess Liz or Ben?

Will Liz & Kenzie work together again?

I guess Ben was more of a threat than I realized.

What a mess Liz is.

I have loose wrists!

Ben reminds me of Sandy Baron.

Bros before hoes.

Bye Liz, shortly

Liz is delusional. And ungracious.

Other than complete delusion, is there any reason for Liz to think she would have won the game?

R199, I wondered the same thing, but apparently the final three thought so. I’m worried that Kenzie is going to win now because it looked like several in the jury were rooting for her. This is Charlie’s to lose, but it hardly ever works out like I think it will so I wouldn’t bet money on it.

I still want Hunter inside me quite deeply.

Cleaned up Jury Liz looks just as messy as dirty in the game Liz.

Wow Hunter just stuck a knife into Charlie, he told the truth but that just crushed Charlies point.

The moment Charlie realized Kenzie’s gonna win.

Oh. A timekeeper on the jury. That's obnoxious.

I so wish they’d return to a live finale.

it's gonna be Kenzie

Did they know Charlie was in law school before this?

Survivor compensates all contestants, or castaways, who make it to the final tribal council. Typically, each receives around $10,000 for the reunion show. The third-place winner can tack on an additional $85,000 (before taxes), with the second-place adding an extra $100,000.

Will Q write in Q’s name?

Ben will get zero votes.

I don’t agree with that win, but it’s what I expected.

Wonder what they do if there is a tie.

That fucking bitter cunt Maria couldn’t didn’t vote for Charlie because she’s bitter he outsmarted her.

I didn't think it would be that close though

Very surprised Maria didn’t vote for Charlie. So much for her boys meeting Uncle Charlie.

I have no doubt that if Maria had made it to the finale and Charlie was on the jury he would have voted for her to win,

R213, I think the person of the two who has the least number of cumulative votes from tribal councils over the season wins.

Uh, Maria is making it all about KenIe being a strong woman…

Maria fucked herself over with her needless move of trying to get Charlie out. If she hadn't done that she would have made the final. Oh, and she's a cunt.

If Charlie wants to punch Maria in the face, I will defend him pro boner.

Jeff: So Charlie, what does it feel like to have your bestie Maria vote against you?

Charlie: talks about the general game of Survior, the role of the jury, how great of a player Kenzie is, and never once mentions Maria or his feelings about her.

She’s dead to him.

Clearly Charlie is pissed but he handled it very classy,

^ Agreed. Wise beyond his years.

I'm kind of looking forward to the new Matlock.

Over on Jokers they are saying that if there is a tie, Ben would vote for the winner. Of course he would have had a nervous break down over it first though.

The smug look on Maria's face while she explained why she voted for Kenzie was beyond gross. But yes, Charlie handled the situation in a very mature and classy way

Charlie must be kicking himself for not thinking he needed a fire making win to complete his resume.

A tie would’ve led to Ben casting the deciding vote.

'Survivor 46' Runner-Up Charlie Davis Says His Relationship with Maria Permanently Changed After Her Jury Vote

The law student also talks how a last-minute conference by the jury led him to believe he'd win the game.

Being in the middle is a position Charlie Davis knows "All Too Well." From Day 1 to 26, his game was all about keeping options open, making people feel "You Belong With Me." One of the contestants in the chaos of Survivor 46 was having Charlie and Maria Shrime Gonzalez as the primary decision makers, as they made their "Wildest Dreams" come true pulling off some massive blindsides over that "Cruel Summer." But the two were aware that Matsing had already been Mat-sung, and took shots at each other. Fortunately, Charlie had taken a "Fortnight" to insulate himself with allies, so when Maria struck, he could simply respond, "Look What You Made Me Do." Given his strategic strengths, Charlie hoped the jury could "Shake It Off" with their blindsides and write him a million-dollar check with a "Blank Space" for his name. Unfortunately, his game behind the curtain game back to bite him, and they were not "Enchanted" enough with his arguments to give him the win. {More at link.}

This is a really good interview with Charlie, Maria visited him in Boston, has at different times said that she regretted not voting for him and at other times didn't regret not voting for him. Sounds like he is pretty done with her.

I am surprised she even visited him in Boston, I was totally not believing her saying that they would stay in touch after the show, I didn't figure Charlie would ever hear from her again.

No Sia giving someone 100K?

[quote] has at different times said that she regretted not voting for him and at other times didn't regret not voting for him. Sounds like he is pretty done with her.

Read: she went to Boston and while there had a 15-minute coffee with him

Maria came across as very phony to me the entire game. Even Venus, Queen of Delusion, had her pegged correctly.

Pod Save America host & former Obama speechwriter Jon Lovett is part of next season's cast.

Is he hot?

I finished watching the show and want to add some thoughts:

I LOVED seeing Liz abandon her game to help Kenzie beat Maria! I can’t recall seeing that before, especially so late in a season. Kudos to Liz.

I feel Charlie played the best overall game. Kenzie did play an excellent game, but I think her votes were mostly due to her getting to the end when she was on such a disaster of a tribe to start. Plus, her financial situation and likability played a big role.

Charlie was clearly devastated, but stayed classy to the end. His girlfriend has a gem of a man.

Maria was really built up when she was voted out. The other 3 praised her game prowess and how unbeatable she was. Everyone loved her and commented on what a great person she is. Then she turns on Charlie and reveals she’s a kind of a bitch that wouldn’t even throw an olive branch to him in her speech to Jeff. She came off badly in the final tribal council.

This has been a great season. There’s a ton of life left in the show!

"I don't doubt that we won't be able to get past this."

Can someone smarter than me parse this sentence?

R235, is Ronan Farrow making an appearance for the Loved Ones challenge?

R176, while batshit Loco, Liz did orchestrate the Tevin blindside. Her helping Kenzie in the IC also prevented Maria from reaching the F4. Not that I wanted her to win, but that counts for something.

[quote] Off topic what loser do we think Sia will give 100K to this year?

The Sia gravy train has ended.

Not a surprising end to the season. The only real shocker was Ben making it to the final three. He didn't do anything the entire season except have panic attacks and, yeah, he won the final immunity challenge.

If Maria had voted for Charlie, Ben would have cast the tie-breaker and according to his exit press, he would have voted for Charlie. During the reunion, you can almost see Charlie realizing this with the Maria discussion.

Speaking of the reunion, it wouldn't be the worst idea to cut it down to only about 15 minutes. Read the votes, give the winner and the others in the final three a few minutes to discuss the season and then run the promo for the next season. Trying to turn it into a celebration of the season (or whatever) is a mistake. This season's reunion also showed that Jeff and the producers blew it on anticipating the moments people would talk about. Instead of discussing Q blowing up tribal council, we got a segment on Tevin and Soda singing and Charlie dancing. No one cared about any of those moments.

Pretty good season overall. Idols and advantages never really coming into play was a surprise. I don't want to see either Maria or Liz again. Maria is a phony asshole. Liz has major "I'm the main character" syndrome.

I wish they would go back to the live finale. Not only do I like to see the cast cleaned-up, but I like to see the cast, not just the finalists & the jurors.

I think they might now, R243, now that Covid has passed.

But, R244,this last season was shot well into 2023, well after Covid restrictions had been lifted.

Seems to me Survivor 2.0 is all about the budget. Same location, no live finale, fewer days, smaller cast, where else can they cut corners? Oh right, a million dollars in the nineties is equivalent to 2 million today.

R243, so you are one of the million hearts I won and you really wanted to see more of me!