Do you think Maggie Smith resents Bette Midler's career?

OP, get a date.

R1, I have plenty, unlike you.

A devastating comeback. How WILL I recover?

Lol what a strange question! I doubt Maggie gives a rat's ass

Miss Jean PITTMAN?

Jesus, OP -- you need to sleep it off.

And he’ll do so…alone.

Do you think Cicely Tyson resents Bette Midler's career?

OP—Sit down and write a will donating your brain to science.

OP is off her meds!

Once again, I would suck every cock in an Indian casino for a Loewe puzzle bag (medium, any color as long as it’s monochromatic).

However, I am not Maggie Smith. I hope thry threw lots of money and free merchandise at her.

Was Maggie ever a smoker?

Disney/Touchstone made Midler's film career, and don't forget it: few female stars at the age she was at the time (40+), get as good a run as Down and Out, Ruthless People, Outrageous Fortune, Big Business, Beaches, all in the space of three years, then a little lull and some misses but back again with Hocus Pocus and the (non-Disney) First Wives Club.

[quote]Sit down and write a will donating your brain to science

We don't want that rotting, smelly thing.

I don’t think Maggie Smith ever even thinks about Bette Midler at all, that’s what I think.

Maggie Smith - Following her win for The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, has 48 other credits in theatrically released films per IMDB. She was the lead in at least ten of those and more frequently a member of a sterling ensemble cast.

Bette Midler - Has 24 major theatrical release film performances and almost nothing for the last couple of decades, a period during which Maggie has been constantly at work and created a few of her most iconic roles. She also made Drowning Mona.

I think Maggie has nothing to worry about.

Bette used to power walk on my street in Laguna Beach all the time. She looked like a little old lady being chased down the street.

Dame Maggie has as many Oscars as Miller has noms.

[quote] I don’t think Maggie Smith ever even thinks about Bette Midler at all, that’s what I think.

Except maybe when she thinks about the original choice for Whoopi’s role in Sister Act.

[quote]Bette used to power walk on my street in Laguna Beach all the time.

Laguna Beach, OP? That explains a lot.

What the FUCK do these two women have to do with each other. JUST KILL YOURSELF OP.

who the fuck is miss jean pittman?

Maggie Smith is deeply jealous of Bette Mittler’s triumphs in the Continental Baths.

Smith was preparing a movie version of GYPSY when Midler announced her TV adaptation.

That’s really when the famous rivalry started.

[quote]R22 Maggie Smith is deeply jealous of Bette Midler’s triumphs in the Continental Baths.

Especially after they bumped Smith to the lunchtime rush shift.

The only one who resents Bette Midler's career is Bette Midler. Her goal - still - is get to that O in EGOT.

[quote]What the FUCK do these two women have to do with each other. JUST KILL YOURSELF OP.

They're both famous actresses and have been in the same movie together. Leave me alone!

Hocus Pocus was initially a flop, released in the summer for some odd reason.

Just thought I’d throw that out there.

Bette Midler turned down Whoopi's part in Sister Act.

It's weird to think Maggie Smith is younger than Carol Burnett.

Well, r29, Maggie's had health issues that Carol hasn't had.

Maggie Smith has 2...yes 2 Oscars, Best Actress for "Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, and supporting actress in California Suite. Plus she's an EGOT winner.

OP, I'm sure you know that, are you HIGH when you posted it?

Do you think Bette Midler resents Maggie Smith’s career?

I believe Bette would like to have 1 of Maggie's Oscars or anyone else's Oscars, to get an EGOT!!

R26 I dined in Claridge's the same evening as Maggie Smith. So perhaps she resents me as well.

You are classy, R34!

Marry me, won’t you?

Dream Team Maggie & I could have made "Jinxed" a megahit!!

I was getting Maggie to sign my stage bill after Private Lives and I was young and nervous and started babbling. I told her that Time magazine hadn't liked the show but I thought it was wonderful at which point she gave me *that* withering look and said "Really?". I said well they don't like anything and I immediately shut up.

op wins the most ludicrous post of the day award. Think Maggie Smith is jealous OP?

Bette is quite the cunt in person.

I think Alan Kim resents Jacob Tremblay's career.

R21 it’s the tale of a Scotswoman’s very slow walk to a drinking fountain.

Or is it the tale of an elderly Black woman finally getting laid in Edinburgh?

I’m never sure which…

Cicely Tyson was British?

Did Dame Maggie make it with Ken Wahl?

Has Bette posed for a portrait nude?

A Brodie girl? No—better than that

I think Maggie Smith turned out consistently great performances in which she was cast.

Has anyone asked Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, if Maggie Smith resents her, too?

[quote]r37 I was getting Maggie to sign my stage bill after Private Lives and I was young and nervous and started babbling. I told her that Time magazine hadn't liked the show but I thought it was wonderful at which point she gave me *that* withering look and said "Really?". I said well they don't like anything and I immediately shut up.

You should have swung your foot back and kicked her RIGHT in the CUNT BONE!

I don’t understand this thread and I refuse to respond to it.

This is the dumbest thread ever and OP is a brain dead crack whore.

All Maggie's roles were the creme de la creme!

Did Maggie have a big career in France, alors?

Actually, Will Smith resented Bette Midler's career.

He tried for years to replicate it, and demanded his entourage refer to him as "The Divine Miss S," and had them push him around in a wheelchair while he wore a mermaid's tail. He even planned to appear in a re-make of "For the Boys" as sassy WW2 entertainer Dixie Leonard, but at the last moment Jada wisely convinced him instead to do "King Richard."

Maggie campaigned heavily to play the Janis Joplin type heroine in THE ROSE.

It all became quite awkward. Almost embarrassing.

Yeah, like Bette could do Coward.

Like Bette could do Shakespeare.

Maggie was inconsolable after losing out to Bette for the role of Woody Allen's Hebraic, harridan wife in "Scenes from a Mall."

She would've been so believable, an honorary Oscar would have been presented.

Ah, what could've been just a few years prior, after Dame Smith missed out on sharing scenes with Barbara Hershey's quivering collagen lips in "Beaches."

R41 - you are the hero of this thread, if not all of DataLounge!

Wasn't she in the Autobiography of Miss Justine Bateman?

Maggie was first choice to play Rusty Dennis in “Mask”, but then Cher decided she couldn’t go ugly to play Rusty and the deal fell through.

Fuck Cher.

Sorry, Cher was supposed to play Rocky. I am too upset to type correctly.

Do you think Maggie Smith is jealous of Brendad Ickson’s career? Maggie will never have a People’s Choice Award for Best Soap Opera Villainess or a honorary award from the Hollywood Museum and Tackle Shop……

Maggie Smith was the first choice for the Wayne Knight role in Jurassic Park but she turned it down due to a long running feud with Richard Attenborough after he once described her fruit cake as ‘dry’.

No way Bette could ever have done this scene

Maggie does anal. And Bette resents it.

The IBS has alway held Bette back, R63 - except for powerful gentlemen with specific tastes.

OP's question was foolish, but some of the responses here are a little over the top.

You rang? R64

[quote] OP's question was foolish, but some of the responses here are a little over the top.

You new here, toots?

Dame Maggie Smith was the first trans sex worker of colour to win two Oscars.

It's nice when the children come out to play their silly, meaningless games.

Too bad they're all going to starve to death because this is all they can do, other than hate their parents who support them.

Children?

OP- That was one of my favorite movies!

The Prime Of Miss Jean Pittman

Maggie won a BAFTA for her movie Tea With Muscle Mary which starred Share and Jewdy Mensch.

Of course, OP fails to mention that the real source of tension between the two was the messy break-up of their torrid throuple with Richard Harris.

For what it’s worth, Ken Wahl always preferred Dame Maggie.

Dame Maggie is just missing that elusive Grammy. I wish she'd write her memoirs

Will that get her nominated for Best New Artist R75?

That award can be the kiss of death.

If Bette Midler hadn't turned down The Color Purple would Whoopi Goldberg have the same career? Or would Bette be on The View?

OP? Do you resent honeydew melon because it demonstrates more brain activity than you?

Maggie was up for The Rose. The night before her audition, she had dinner with Helen Mirren who told her, “Luv, don’t be afraid to pull out your baps. Joplin was raw!”

So the next day, Maggie strolled into the audition room, and before she even got to her sixteen bars, she pulled the girls out. Ten minutes later, Mark Rydell was on the phone begging Midler to accept the role.

R69

Bitch, what the fuck are you going on about? Please have an argument between your multiple personalities elsewhere.

Maggie lived. She was present. She took up space.

This thread is deliciously bizarre.

Maggie was especially resentful when Bette got to star in the smash Broadway musical "Rochelle, Rochelle." I clearly remember her asking me, in her most cutting tone, "What can Midler possibly know about a young girl's strange, erotic journey from Milan to Minsk?"

It’s Snookie’s career that the good Dame envies.

It's a well-known fact that Maggie auditioned for "The Rose," and for her audition read Rose's big speech at the concert in her most arch and elegant Edinburgh accent from "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie":

'Oh, the women are getting nasty. So what do you do when he comes home with the smell of another woman on him? Do you say, "Oh honey, let me open up my loving arms and my loving legs. Dive right in, baby, the water is fine"? Is that what you say, girls? Or do you say, "Fuck this shit! I've had enough of you, you asshole! Pack your bags. I'm putting on my little waitress cap and my fancy high-heeled shoes, I'm gonna go find me a real man. A good man, a true man."'

Oddly enough, this approach originally won her the part. The executives at 20th century Fox went mad for it, and wanted to make the character of Mary Rose Foster come from Scotland rather than Texas.

But then Maggie decided to withdraw to do a Tom Stoppard play in London, and the rest was history.

R79 hahaha

Bette was the original choice for Muriel Donnelly in The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel but there were script clashes - Bette wanted the film to be set in Italy with an all American cast, not India with a British cast, she wanted her character to be a former showgirl not a former housekeeper and she wanted Muriel to be needing liposuction not hip replacement surgery,

Judi Dench was heard to say "Those ghastly Americans" to Celia Imrie.

Actually, I think the OP was putting us on…

Bette was the original choice for the Dowager in Downtown Abbey but her dialect coach threw the towel.

Remember when Bette said she was a fool to turn down "Misery" as the "role won an Oscar".

[quote] Remember when Bette said she was a fool to turn down "Misery" as the "role won an Oscar".

It wasn’t the role that won the Oscar, it was the talent of Kathy Bates. Midler would have been chewing the scenery and it would have been “misery” for the audience.

Snooki’s has a career? R84?

I like blue

[quote]but her dialect coach threw the towel.

No - it was the make-up artist who threw in the towel.

R91 that was why we ragged on her so much here

Bette's cuntery is a frequent and rich minefield of discussion here at the DL

This thread is starting to piss me off.

[quote]This thread is starting to piss me off.

Now you know how viewers of Hocus Pocus felt.

I’m starting to think Hannah Montana probably resents Miley Cyrus’ career.

Did she ever play Cruella? She would’ve been great.

OP knew exactly what he was posting.

It's Datalounge genius.

Maggie Smith most likely doesn't even know who Bette MIdler is, or cares to know.

Bette was going to play the Elizabeth McGovern role in Downton Abbey, but the producers balked when she demanded to sing “Wind Beneath My Wings” to Lady Mary after the Mr. Pamuk situation.

Bette Middler was slated to play Daphne Castle in "Evil under the Sun" but Silvia Miles vetoed her.

I do. I think it keeps her up at night.

"AMOK, AMOK, AMOK" I Love that movie.

Bette wasn’t the STAR of The First Wives Club, you witless catamite!

Diane Keaton played the lead, and got the framing scenes, and I bet she and Goldie got a bigger paycheck due to actually having won Oscars.

[quote]Bette Middler was slated to play Daphne Castle in "Evil under the Sun" but Silvia Miles vetoed her.

Sorry to correct you - it was Nurse Bowers in Death On The Nile that Midler was initially cast in but Bette Davis was heard to shout "She's stolen my name, she'll want to steal all my scenes" and Midler was dropped.

Where are her kind hearted gays?

You think any of those British Dames GAF about movies? I'm sure they enjoy the dosh, and it's a bonus if they get a meaty role like Jean Brodie, but they are all about the stage.

The likelihood of any of them being jealous of a woman who is a comparatively poor stage actress is remote.

Actually, Maggie Smith took her film career pretty seriously.

She chose well. Most British actors just take whatever pays most but even her commercial projects were good, like Sister Act.

Maggie said she had to reset her movie career after she won the Oscar because of the offers she got

[quote]R91 It wasn’t the role that won the Oscar, it was the talent of Kathy Bates. Midler would have been chewing the scenery and it would have been “misery” for the audience.

Ironically, the role of Annie Wilkes was written with Maggie Smith in mind.

She didn’t want to gain the necessary weight.

Of course the person whose career Dame Maggie really coveted was Charo, and so in the 1980s she practiced classical guitar and became infamous for uttering "Cuchi-cuchi!" at odd intervals in the 1985 revival of Congreve's Restoration comedy "The Way of the World."

Can’t they dip Maggie into some magic color? Upside down like an ice cream cone into sprinkles.

Ryan Murphy just announced that the next season of Feud will be "Feud: The Dame vs The Broad" and will focus on the bitter jealousy between Maggie Smith and Bette Midler.

I hear Bette is already pressing Ryan HARD to land the Dame Maggie role!

Not anymore, OP.

Uhmmm…no, dear…

I sincerely doubt Maggie Smith ever thought about Bette Midler at all!

What an odd thought.

Maggie Smith’s rendition of Wind Beneath My Wings is sadly underrated.

My cousin’s friend who is a stylist to all the BIG names in dental implants says that producers had scheduled amputation surgery for Maggie Smith for her upcoming roll of Ronny Cammareri in “Moonstruck”.

Then, CHER attached herself to the project, got horny for nepobaby meat, and kicked Maggie Smith to the curb.

Magie Smith’s wake will feature a beautiful choral rendition of “Wind Beneath my Wings.”

I don't understand what's happening. Did they have a falling out in The First Wives Club? Did Maggie convince the studio to choose Whoopi over Bette for Sister Act? Why is OP comparing them?

“…her upcoming roll….”

R122, oh, dear.

I thought Bette Midler had done an about face and decided not to star in Sister Act well in advance of it shooting. I heard she had soured on the script, I didn't think Maggie Smith had anything to do with her decision, but I might be wrong?

Maggie Smith was often heard to exclaim over lunch at Harvey Nick's that she was absolutely devastated that she didn't get to play the lead in Drowning Mona.

I can't believe someone would pit two of the most fabulous divas ever against each other, just for sport.

no. I watched her say that she was so grateful for the life she had and seem to sail thru it always wondering when something bad would happen. She just seemed to focus on the positive and was happy. 0.

Yes, Maggie Smith always wanted to sing "Pretty Legs and Great Big Knockers" with the The Staggering Harlettes.

This thread has turned out to be a DL classic!

I haven’t laughed this much reading a DL thread in awhile. Carry on, bitches!

Bette Middler auditioned for “Room with a View” but was rejected because she could not pronounce “Florence” correctly (FLAW-RENCE !!!).

But she was a rrrravishing rose, R132.

[quote]Dame Maggie is just missing that elusive Grammy. I wish she'd write her memoirs

Susan Dey regrets to inform you that Dame Maggie will no longer be writing.

[quote]Do you think Maggie Smith is jealous of Brendad Ickson’s career? Maggie will never have a People’s Choice Award

I DO think Maggie Smith is jealous of Lola Heatherton’s career! Maggie will never have a People’s Golden Global Choice Award!

I think Bette Midler resents all the love and attention that Maggie Smith's passing has received because Smith was relevant to the end and had become familiar to a new audience. For over a decade Midler has only managed to antagonize people with her tweets and posts.

The OP’s post is so idiotic that it has to be a bait post for the ridiculousness that follows.

[quote]The OP’s post is so idiotic that it has to be a bait post for the ridiculousness that follows.

Well, r137, there's no pulling the wool over *your* eyes.

On the juice again, OP?

Let’s also remember what an influence Bette Middler had upon interior design in the late 70s - specifically her DIY solutions to common problems - who knew you could simply roll latex paint over fecal matter?