Thread II: Three K.C. Chiefs fans become frozen friendsicles after freezing in buddy's backyard

Thread I linked below.

Deja Vu thread.

Fentanyl. I walked by a dead body on a sidewalk in Portland last month. A bystander said the contorted position of the body was characteristic of a fentanyl overdose.

I really know nothing about that drug but it seems to be especially evil, based on what I keep gathering from remarks about it.

Death by misadventure?

Booty bump gone wrong, R4

So what do we think truly happened? Scientist says he ushered them out the front door, then he fell asleep. Why would they then go around to the backyard to coke up? But if they did partake in the house, scientist guy didn't partake with them (I don't think he could have developed a tolerance to the amount the 3 had in their systems.)

And I don't think scientist could have moved the dead bodies. I just don't know how they got out there and if scientist really didn't know they were there.

Does the contorted position of the body mean that there was serious muscle cramping and contraction upon death? I guess they wouldn't feel it.

Does the contorted position of the body mean that there was serious muscle cramping and contraction upon death? I guess they wouldn't feel it.

Who was the Candyman again?

Sammy Davis, Jr., Rose.

Clayton's GoFundMe, plus fiancee!

Sad.

[quote] I really know nothing about that drug but it seems to be especially evil

Thank you

r8 who had the contorted position and what position? I must have missed that.

do you think he could whip up LSD in his home lab?

I think the Candyman and the home owner dragged them outside after they OD'd in the house. I believe the Candyman has been charged with a similar crime before

No, the 5th guy had a relatively minor rap sheet. IIRC, some old stuff and low-quantity possession stuff.

r14, the fentanyl guy mentioned at r3 was contorted.

So they all went outside to do a bump before going home and all die?

How else could they have stayed alert enough to drive home after a full day of drinking beer and smoking pot? They were at it from first kick-off of the day at 1:00 p.m. and continued through the evening until they HAD to report home to significant others (assuming here).

I've had my days of consuming a lot of alcohol and smoking pot all day long. My only instinct would have told me "I just need to sleep it off on your couch, man." But I didn't have a common law wife and three children waiting at home for me.

That's why I came up with the scenario of snorting for alertness to get home and avoid a browbeating. I assumed they went to the backyard to avoid neighbors' Ring and security cameras. But I'd never thought about wind blowing it away. Maybe it was a still night.

I'd like to carry my comment over from the first thread about the victims' family idiocy about their high school friend of over 20 years. They FLAIL at any explanation.

[QUOTE]"He was a known chemist"—

He was so brilliant, he knew how to synthesize coca leaves from compost in his garage!!!

This "interpretation" tells go everything you need to know about uneducated redneck/MAGAs understanding of the world. They most likely would have a hard time naming the different branches of science, never mind what they investigate or what differentiates them.

To them a geneticist or an epidemiologist specializing HIV and who works on computer models of transmission patterns or effectiveness of gene therapy from his home office is the MAD SCIENTIST! They haven't the slightest idea what he did so they conjure up negative stereotypes that are beyond the pale ignorant.

And comically stupid.

My brother has the party house, no drugs but some of them get really drunk. My mother gets worried and says that if somebody has an accident driving home my brother will be liable for it, after reading some of the relatives comments on this story maybe my mom isn't so paranoid.

Honestly, is the world any less better off with these 3 removed from the playing board?

It might not have been tolerance so much as luck. He might have done a little less or he might have survived because he passed out in the house where it was warm whereas they passed out in the snow. (If he was sober enough to be up to dragging bodies, the place to drag them would have been their cars, to match they were leaving story not his own back yard. )

As for an employer not caring if their employee is working from home in their underwear drunk. Underwear, fine, drunk, no. And IAVI is bound by the drug free workplace rule which means if you work from home you can’t have drugs in the house without it being a problem.

STOP with the "dragging the bodies out of the house" posts. Those of you posit such inanity... have you looked at the size of two the dead? One man is not going to be able to just drag a corpse or two from the home and position it in the backyard.

The drag marks would start in the house and lead to thee outdoor corpsicles. The repeated footprints and drag marks would have the cops all over Willis.

None of that has happened. From the git go the police have been adamant that there were no signs of foul play.

This is simply what it is... three local losers (that go fund me is pathetic, but already above $10k) did some dope - like they previously, multiple times. It was laced and they died.

It was a DL orgy gone wrong.

That Go Fund Me raised more than $10,000?! Who knew begging was the way to make serious coin on the 21st century?

Don’t look at me.

Go Grift Me, typically American.Shameful.

Conservatives are fond of GoFundMe and don’t regard it as grifting, maybe because it reminds them of Biblical-style charity, and much prefer it to eeevil communist social safety nets and healthcare.

R22 No shit! Didn't we just have a thread where a guy and his new bride were hit, and the wife killed by a drunk, and the bar that served the drunk had to pay millions? And then the wife's mom sued the guy to get the money? Anyhow, I was horrified that they had to pay that much.

R27 meh, ten grand is not that much, I bet she can't even pay off their credit cards. On the other hand, old Clay the loser had barely worked this year so it's a step up.

Conservatives (emphasis on the con) pretend that bootstrapping is responsible for their success in life even as they have their hands out to accept donations.. in some instances they just take what they want without asking.

{quote]GoFundMe "Support for April after loss of Clayton McGeeney"

If asshole Clayton had spent money taking care of his (17 year?) fiance and their kids instead of paying for lethal blow, the deluded friends and family wouldn't have to beg for money.

Because nothing the MAGAs do, is ever their responsibility. "There but for the grace of god goes my drugged up, irresponsible, worthless, bros and I", so there's always a GoFundMe to cover our asses.

17 years with a girlfriend, kids and barely employed?

How do guys like this survive?

I guess they hook up with enabling women. The girlfriend probably had multiple jobs, while Clayton got unemployment or SSI checks, partying with his pals, very likely other women, while she worked 7 days a week.

This is probably why it took her two days to finally drive over to Willis' house: she had to work.

I've also noticed that in several pics, Clayton has a car, a Harley, etc. Probably all made possible by her and his family, or a windfall of cash via an inheritance.

He probably left her with tons of debt.

Sad.

R27 serious coin? Surely you gest.

It beggars belief, R35!

[quote] None of that has happened. From the git go the police have been adamant that there were no signs of foul play.

The police have known to be wrong on their first assessment of a situation.

The Willis guy needs to sue for defamation. I’m stunned that the press even prints the families absurd allegations. Even the dumbest redneck knows they od’ed.

The daily entrails blabbed the victims ingested three times more of the amount of fentanyl that it takes to kill.

This group had partied like this for 20 years. The only thing that changed in their lives was the introduction and ubiquity of fentanyl in the party scene.

These were hard partiers outdone by the PRC finest.

Since Clayton and the fiancée/girlfriend were not married, are the three children eligible for Social Security survivors benefits? I think it's supposed to be $750/month per month per child. Do Missouri and the Feds recognize common law marriages?

Still very interested in the autopsy results to see if any of the guys' organs showed any sign of long term drug or alcohol abuse. I suspect the families may be further surprised.

How come Willis didn't OD, though? Stuck to wine, marijuana, and coke from his own supplier?

Reading between the lines, no pun intended, partying like this because more occasional as they aged. A big game is an occasion for sports freaks.

I have a family member who OD’ed on opiates. His fellow drug denizens thought he was dead so the they drove him down the highway and dumped his body. (It was summer) He woke up two days later with no memory of what happened. Being alive two days later is no guarantee of not having overdosed.

I don't know why it chaps people's hide so to see a GoFundMe when someone has died. Death costs a fuck-ton of money—especially unexpected death. Especially when you're living paycheck to paycheck. Don't get me wrong, there are PLENTY of GFM grifters, but when there has been an actual, recorded, sudden death, someone has to pay for that, and pay for the disruption in their lives while they deal with that. It's not like these people have the option of just pocketing the donations and tossing the body in a river.

The person's death may have been preventable, but that's not the fault of the surviving family members, and no one is forcing you to contribute. I'd say the most Republican mindset is the seething at strangers in need receiving charity, especially when it's not costing you anything.

It's possible that Willis did overdose, but was able to sleep it off. Then, he woke up and wanted some hair of the dog, i.e., wine.

Nothing wrong with the GFM, R44.

What's wrong is accusing Willis of foul play or even murder, when knowing full well that the reason a GFM is necessary, is because her partner suffered from Peter Pan Syndrome, and she damn well knows it, as she is likely a primary enabler.

This wasn't an isolated incident, with the distinction being that this time, 3 people lost their lives unnecessarily.

R40 you don't have to have married parents to collect SS if one of parent dies. He just has to be listed as the father on the birth certificate or have a DNA test.

Dont let anyone fool ya, this is plan #542 of the governments war on drugs. It's the "lets just kill off the illicit drug users through their own drug of choice. Just like the rat poison "snacks" for rats. Problem SOLVED.

R46 Oh, I've been one of the leading commenters in these threads calling the family members out for all their asinine allegations. They absolutely could have traversed the upper stages of grief with far more grace in the public eye (those kinds of angry, conspiratorial rants are not uncommon in the early days of unexpected grief, but better saved for the privacy of one's own kitchen table), and I feel deeply for Willis having to suffer them on top of his own grieving. I do hope they can find it in themselves, once the dust has settled, to issue a public apology to Willis for the accusations they've made though. And I wouldn't blame him if he decides to sue for defamation in the future. But I still don't begrudge them accepting donations right now to pay for funeral costs. I mean, they're not asking me to pay for them, or anyone else here, so why should it offend us?

Death costs a fuck-ton of money…

Actually, no it doesn’t. Unless you’re an idiot who’s stuck in the death trap of old coffin burials.

These dudes used to jerk it together to old AOL dial-up porn. They were thick as thieves! For better and for worse!

I'm guessing we're not dealing with educated people here, so we shouldn't expect reasonable responses to these events.

Just as ElderLez said, the survivor also overdosed. But in the privacy and comfort of his own bedroom. He ingested enough to knock him out for two days straight but not kill. Luck of the draw? There's something sketchy about his WFH situation that will expose his WFH grift.

There is no proof any of these guys knowingly ingested fent. Many people are getting caught unawares in today's party scene.

And wifey waited two days before heading over to the party house? What does that tell you. It tells me they partied hard regularly enough.

Have a sniff.

Become a stiff.

KCK or KCMo? Is that a distinction with a difference? Or no?!

Sniffies

R54, w&w. Should be plastered in every gay bar everywhere

Any recipe that requires using a can opener.

I'm going to assume that Willis did not engage in (or even knew about) the hard partying, because surely as a professional man with a scientific background, he knows how dangerous substances are right now, and that only fools and kids are messing with that shit!

What does Fani Willis have to do with this?

You MAGAs can’t seem to quit while you’re behind!

R58 was intended for the recipe dealbreaker thread. How it ended up here is a mystery, like the frozen friends in the backyard.

You know what this thread needs?

A KIM CARNES SONG!!!

[quote] Honestly, is the world any less better off with these 3 removed from the playing board?

r23 Huh? Because they partied with a drug? Are you Mormon?

The problem is that the government should legalize and regulate drugs so this doesn't happen.

Did they all have fiancees?

Maybe the three went outside because they didn’t want to share with Willis.

The three went outside probably to sm9ke cigarettes , Or the expensive joint they bought off the streets, and unbeknown to them was laced w fent .

R66, the smoke break sounds likely.

R28 Just like Mary Lou Retton, that one guy is not answering questions.

I’m still contemplating whether there was supposed to be sex involved between the guys.

[quote]Any recipe that requires thawing

Fixed it for you, r61

Are they still dead?

There may have been sex between them, but probably not all four at the same time, there's often guys on the down low in any group of men

Have they been thawed out?

I don’t know why exactly, but my gut is leaning toward the THC being laced versus the cocaine. You go outside to light up. They were outside.

Time will tell.

R69, yes, straight guys fuck each other all the time. Jeesh.

Just ones on the DL

Handsome doctor explains how the three men might have died.

From what I can tell even if marijuana was laced with fentanyl the heat and other ways that it's consume would destroy it before it could affect you. So I don't think that's really a thing.

r78 Yes, thank you, there's a way to free base and smoke heroin and you don't put it on a joint. That's bullshit. These guys knew they were using heroin or fentanyl.

R48 Hey Satan, you might be in to something. On the other hand, people have been ingesting anything that got them high for millenia all by themselves.

Serious question: how can people habitually get this high with that kind of jobs or no job? Drugs are expensive. I know I wouldn't be able to afford doing coke, at least regularly, because I'm just too poor.

Not getting all this Fentanyl mischief. Apparently it is well known it's toxic. Do these people think they are immune?

Always vote for or fund or donate to test strips. Because young people are always going to be crazy. Yes, 30s is still crazytown.

Probably living off of their fiancees.

No one is directly doing fentanyl, R82. Dealers are cutting it with other things like coke, and putting too much in which then kills the user.

Some people actually seek out fentanyl. On Soft White Underbelly, there are lots of people whose drug of choice is fentanyl.

Dr John Carter was a fentanyl addict on ER after he got stabbed.

Yeah the fentanyl people seek and the shit they put in drugs is very different. And now people freak out when offered it in a therapeutic setting. My friend was offered some during some procedure and she was so freaked out. I told her she should have taken it. The real kind is supposed to be very good for pain in a clinical setting and a short time period. Now people think they'll die if prescribed it. Once again, fucking China ruins everything! Thanks a lot.

Yeah, since opiates make me heave, after surgery they had to switch my IV dilaudid (sp almost certainly wrong) to IV fentanyl since it has a shorter half life and I was pretty freaked out and refused to take it like your friend.

The will test the nails and hair of all three and discover all of them were already heavy users.

It’s why Britney shaved her head.

R89 You spelled it right. I so love dilaudid, but yeah, it's scary and strong. It's too bad everyone is afraid of fent now, it's supposedly very helpful in surgery cases.

The Brocicles!

R33, at least Clayton's genes shall live on! That's the important part.

It's coming in across the southern border with the migrants.

Linda, from Intervention, got hooked on the real pharmaceutical fentanyl lollipops. It’s an opioid, either way, and some ppl get addicted.

R95, how on earth is she still alive?

Its coming in the ufos

Will the families have a get together to watch the Super Bowl on Sunday?

Sure, as long as they don't use the same dealer R98.

R98, fentanyl cake pops for everyone!

[quote] It's coming in across the southern border with the migrants.

Mexicans with calves the size of cantaloupes are carrying back packs full of fentanyl across the border.

Ok, Steve, let’s shut the border down. It’s all up to you now!

Just how long was Clayton married to his 'fiancee,' seeing as they have three children and all.

R100 I like the chocolate! Tastes like Devil’s Food SnackWells!

R104, these dudes grew up with Hostess Ho-Hos, twinkies, and ding-dongs, so maybe one of those flavors?

R96, apparently, Linda got clean. This video was posted 11 years ago, but she looks good.

They party hard in Kansas City

R106, good for her! What a former fentanyl goddess!

Can she turn left now? Wasn't she like Derek Zoolander, unable to turn left due to her fbro-like disease and mental illness?

The dad of Ricky Johnson has a GoFundMe for lawyers and private investigator. Only $820 of the $5000 goal has been raised lol

A P.I.?! for fucking what, dude? Jfc, accept your kid rolled the cocaine dice and came up snake eyes. Some of these fucking private dicks are so skeezy too, he'll string that dad along chasing "leads" instead of just telling the dad to accept it and move on.

In the GoFundMe into piece,, the dad pretty much whines about the police not doing a "further investigation" There was another GoFundMe run by Ricky's niece which raised 17k and is no longer accepting donations. That one was listed as for "funeral expenses" and leftover money would go to Ricky's daughters.

wow! They already got 17K? What idiots are donating for investigations? What are they going to investigate? yeah, if anyone thing, give the money to his kids.

Also, I wonder if porn star Jesse Jane also got a bad batch. So much fent going around.

Someone on the first thread asked why he decided to move, this is why:

"The homeowner's story is "he had no idea his friends were dead in his backyard for 2 whole days in his own backyard, one of them being found right outside the back door, their cars being in his driveway for 2 days, and ignoring texts calls and knocks at his door". The police are adamant that there is no foul play involved. They refuse to do any further investigation, and worse, they consistently ignore the phone calls from my family with questions surrounding my son's death. The owner of the house our son was found at has hired a lawyer, and a few days ago a U-Haul moving truck was spotted at the house , he appears to have relocated and nobody knows where he is."

They really were trying to amp people up and put pressure on the dude. Poor guy, those were his friends, I'm sure he's gutted about all this and also has survivor's guilt.

R113 The GoFundMe for the private investigators and lawyers is separate from the GoFundMe that raised 17k.

[quote] The owner of the house our son was found at has hired a lawyer, and a few days ago a U-Haul moving truck was spotted at the house , he appears to have relocated and nobody knows where he is."

Well, no shit. Gee, I wonder why he would do that?

Right R115, I saw that, in bold letters, THIS IS THE LAWYER/INVESTIGATOR FUND!!!! How many fucking funds are you going to have? Waiting for the THIS IS FOR THE KIDS' COLLEGE funds.

The guy didn't own the house. He was a renter.

R117 Ricky's youngest daughter has a different mother than the older two daughters. The youngest daughter's aunt also has gofundme up.

From the gofundme

[quote]It's with heavy heart that I'm needing to do this but, My 4 year old niece, Reagan, lost her father recently. He was found on his so called "friend's" back yard with his other two friends, frozen to death. [quote]Ricky was an amazing father to Reagan and his other 2 daughters and an amazing person. He was full of life and had a kind heart and our Lives will never be the same, Reagan will never be the same. [quote]He will always be remembered as a great man and we are sad and heartbroken for Reagan (and her sisters) who are without their dad and whom she loved and adored very much!

[quote]Rickey did not have any life insurance and his daughter(s) are left with nothing. If you can please consider donating to Reagan; his daughter, so she can have help with living expenses, we'd greatly appreciate it. [quote] If you can't, then please pray for the Ricky's Family and his 3 daughters. God Bless.

Since there are/were three gofundmes related to Ricky. I wouldn't be surprised if drama is already goi

R119, oh jesus, these guys were a mess!

R119 here I hit submit too soon.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is drama going on between the baby mamas and other family members in the Johnson family. The mother of the youngest daughter was interviewed in the linked article.

Gawd R119, his "so called friend". And of course he had no life insurance and of course he has a few baby mamas. They're still interviewing people? Jesus, back in the day if your family member died of an overdose, it was a source of great shame, no one is wanting to talk about it. These people just can't stop.

Hmm, I see Reagan is a Juarez. So she doesn't even have his name. I'm sure the mom hates him.

R120 The other guy David Harington didn't have kids. It was mentioned that he lived with a girlfriend who had two kids of her own.

The wife of David's father put up this drama filled gem of a gofundme up.

[quote] Hi - my name is Theresa Harrington and I am Jon Harrington's wife. David is Jon's son, who died unexpectly in early January and was found dead in the back yard of a Kansas City Missouri home on January 9th. I am asking for folks to help Jon pay lawyer fees to get David's belongings back and go through probate court. David's mother came up for help with David's remains and other things, note she did pay for the cremation with donations through GoFundMe. THANK YOU! Anyway, David's mother (Jon's ex-wife) packed up David's items and went back home, leaving Jon with nothing! Nothing to remember him by. He never even got a chance to see David's belongings in his room. She took two vehicles and nearly everything in his room. Jon deserves something - like the KC Chief's jersey we bought him as a gift or David's favorite hat.

[quote]Legal aid advised us to get a lawyer and go through probate court to acquire at least half of the items back and half of the value of the vehicles. Both vehicles were actually purchased for David by Jon's parents. Jon and I do not have funds to hire a lawyer - they want $150 to $250 per hour to work on a probate case. I hope that this process can recover some of David's items for Jon. He is heartbroken. If we raise more than needed, Jon wants to use the remaining funds to get a bench and a tree to honor David to place on the Harrington family farm. Thank you for reading and sharing.

Oh FFS! A lawyer to get some of his crappy items back? Give me a break! Some bongs and some bikini team posters? And what does she mean from JOn's room? He just had a room, not a whole apartment? The writing is so confusing and bad.

If Ricky was steadily employed/paid into SS, the daughters can receive survivor's social security.

According to to DL, these guys with baby mamas and/or girfriends were banging each other.

R127, it happens, especially with the introduction of party drugs and bad 90s r&b.

And could she have found a fucking blurrier, shittier, pic to put in the GFM at R124? So what are they trying to recoup? She tries to make it sound like she just wants personal items but actually it's the two cars. What a vulturous family. If I died, I really hope my mom would have no need of my car or what I paid for it.

[quote] it happens, especially with the introduction of party drugs and bad 90s r&b.

Bad 90s R&B? Like what?

R130 like brandy!

Jodeci!

I was thinking Bump and Grind. They only made it to the “bump” part. No “grind”.

Forgot to sign my name at R131!

Maybe they start to feel something going wrong and went outside to the cold thinking it may wake them up....A few years ago there was a party where they found like two guys in an apartment and 3 others outside in various places of the complex

r135 might be right. Their bodies started to react and they went outdoors to get some "fresh air"...then collapsed and froze.

I just hope when the 1% take over the world I can still get some. You they won’t want their workers killing themselves.

I was kidding about the vigilante group forming, but it looks like it might really happen.

Those miniature cattle at R101 will bring in more money than fentanyl!!

[QUOTE]He never even got a chance to see David's belongings in his room. She took two vehicles and nearly everything in his room.

[QUOTE]Both vehicles were actually purchased for David by Jon's parents.

What I gathered from the GFM is that David still lived at home and his grandparents bought him two vehicles.

Good Lordy.

I can’t find anything about why people contort on an OD of fentanyl. That doesn’t sound like an opioid and it doesn’t sound comfortable.

What do you mean by "contort", R141?

The Harrington (step)parents GoFundMe sounds like they might be addicts as well.

R135 that’s what I think too.

Muscle rigidity and found in weird positions.

Hope all the White Trash relatives start going off on each other.

One would think this would be a wake-up call for all of them and their messy lives. But, noooooooooo.....

Useless and dumb. What sad lives. Those poor children are doomed.

[quote] Gawd [R119], his "so called friend". And of course he had no life insurance and of course he has a few baby mamas. They're still interviewing people? Jesus, back in the day if your family member died of an overdose, it was a source of great shame, no one is wanting to talk about it. These people just can't stop.

I feel sorry for the kids left behind. The adult family members, baby mamas, and girlfriends are hard to sympathize with.

All of these white trash loons sound like serious addicts. Why does the media keep going to this well and listening to these people that have zero credibility?

The only people who deny obvious drug usage are addicts themselves. This whole bunch of people take opioids. They don’t see it that way though. They see it as they take medication the doctor prescribes. They are ALL acting like scorned junkies. Their whole denial/gimme .

[QUOTE]Why does the media keep going to this well and listening to these people that have zero credibility?

As long as the relatives keep talking, the media will be there to listen. Remember Kayleigh Goncalves' father? She was one of the murdered U of Idaho students. The guy wouldn't shut up and kept accusing the police of incompetence, if not outright cover up. Same type: loudmouth MAGAt with a dubious past (felony conviction in California).

I was kind of hoping to find out there was a hot threesome before everything went down.

I wonder if the smartest of the group didn't die because he was servicing the others and didn't use. He seems like he was the odd man out; smart, had a job, and lived on his own without a trail of kids and baby mommas.

Jesus, I yearn for the Goncalves dad theories now. At least they really didn't have the suspect yet and it wasn't all clear to everyone.

Everything's up to date in Kansas City!

I'm just waiting for the families to try and sue Taylor Swift.

[quote] Jesus, I yearn for the Goncalves dad theories now. At least they really didn't have the suspect yet and it wasn't all clear to everyone.

What?

The only thing that may stop the deceaseds' relatives yapping is their loved ones' final autopsy reports. If they were long term addicts and/or alcoholics, there will probably be evidence of some organ damage.

It's so odd that the KC officials explicitly said toxicology and autopsy reports could take 12-14 weeks, yet TMZ, of all outlets, released toxicology results just a few days later. What's this about?

The autopsy / toxicology reports won't stop the families from talking. They think these 3 were poisoned by "the chemist."

R155 I was talking about R149 who mentioned Kayle Goncalves' dad making bold statements about the cops not doing their job, etc. But at least they didn't have a suspect when he was saying all that. In the face of the fucking tox screens, these people won't shut up about further investigations, etc.

My theory is that all of them used drugs regularly and the family members, baby mamas and girlfriends all knew. But, they kept quiet and covered up for them when needed. These guys didn't have life or burial insurance. The families turn to to gofundme for funerals and other expenses. But, they also know deep down that many people aren't going to sympathize with them if their loved ones willingly took drugs and died. They start talking to the media and placing the blame on the home renter Jordan in hopes people will be suspicious and think the guys were victims of foul play/poisoned and will donate to the funeral expenses or money for the kids. Some of the GoFundMes did raise over 10k, so they did succeed in getting some people to sympathize and donate to them. I think sympathy will wane more once the autopsy reports are released.

[Quote] wake-up call for all of them and their messy lives

You’re living inside your own fantasy world.

Who cleared out that one guy’s “room”? Why is the family complaining about that?

The mother cleaned out the room.

The stepmother is complaining.

My guess is that the room was at the paternal grandparents because they apparently bought the deceased his vehicles.

R161, they're complaining over the most trivial of goings-on, because they're all money grubbing, opportunistic grifters.

Every little tiny bit of anything matters for these types, hence the immediate infighting post mortem.

They should complain amongst themselves if it’s about one family member clearing out the bedroom at Grandpa’s house.

I had a hunch that Willis was the only one who lived on his own.

From Reddit. I don't know enough about drugs to know if this is accurate, but it's fitting in this situation.

[quote]Your body can get so immediately, unbelievably hot from the wrong mix of drugs or an OD that before you end up lights out, your instinct is to immediately try to cool down. So you get outside as fast as you can if it's winter. Your body instincts completely take over. I will be surprised if this was anything other than the extremely unfortunate outcome of a group of friends doing drugs.

[...]

[quote]Apparently fentanyl doesn’t always get evenly mixed with the drugs, which creates “hot spots” with lethal amounts. So one guy could take a bump and be perfectly fine, while his buddy keels over and dies.

I imagined Jordan having a problem with alcohol, not drugs. Ideally, someone who studies vaccines would know fentanyl is in everything these days, but perhaps not.

Yes that is true R165. I work at a rehab and last year we had a woman in her 30's, a psychologist or something, married to a lawyer. They were doing some coke and he keeled over and died, right in front of her. She was fine. She came to rehab like 2 weeks later, I was shocked she was functioning.

I have a low tolerance for alcohol but a high tolerance for coke, other uppers, and opioids.

Xanax will put me right to sleep, though.

"Leandro - the only son of Robert’s daughter Drena De Niro-Rodriguez - died in New York City last July after he consumed counterfeit oxycodone pills that were laced with fentanyl", these people are being ☠ and killed.

You don't understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum,

Willis was the smart gay boy from the wrong side of the tracks who made something of himself! He coulda been a contender!

“That shit was so good I slept inside for 2 days while my friends froze to death. I care. I care A LOT!”

Oh, dear, I fear my formatting had a fentanyl attack.

R162, I think he lived with his longtime girlfriend and her kids. If he had lived with the grandparents then it doesn’t make sense that they would have allowed their exdaughter-in-law to take two cars that they themselves had paid for.

What did these bros do for a living?

R173, good question... personally I don't think the three (3) dead guys made much of their lives professionally. And their personal lives? M'eh...

Here's David Harrington's obit, note there's no mention of a job, let alone a career (but he was a high school graduate!)

And, um, is this really all Ricky Hohnson's family had to say about him? This is truly brief...

oops - I typed/posted too soon. Here's Ricky Johnson's obituary... like the other obits.

Clayton did some kind of seasonal construction work. This is the slow time of the year.

I bet that apartment smelled like sweaty balls and poppers.

Without a bit of irony, both Obits say:

[quote]He was an avid sports fan, especially watching the Kansas City Chiefs.

It could be an SNL skit. I guess it's expecting too much of the yahoos to leave that bit out considering the circumstances of their drug overdose deaths.

Maybe their families are mentioning it all the time so someone from the Chiefs will donate to the GFM since they're such great fans.

Any possibility the Chiefs pay some kind of cheesy tribute to these white trash monsters at the superbowl?

It would be so easy to poison someone with fentanyl....

I wonder if the Chiefs even know, R181. Is it big news there?

I think some people in the Hunt family/Chiefs organization know. But, they aren't going to donate any money or do any tributes to these families given the shady circumstances.

I could see the families of these guys probably hoping that some wealthy Chiefs fan will give them tickets to games next season or maybe an individual Chiefs player will donate money to them. Again, I don't see anyone affiliated with the Chiefs wanting to do anything for these families.

Yeah, maybe if they did the fent while they were saving orphans from a burning building, the Chiefs might care. Of course the families are trying to make it sound like MURDER so that people can think their kids were innocent in this whole thing.

[quote] Jon wants to use the remaining funds to get a bench and a tree to honor David to place on the Harrington family farm.

These families now want strangers to pay for outdoor furniture and landscaping!

R182, please, please work out your issues.

Seriously.

Get help before you end up in some DL thread because you chose to harm someone, rather than choosing to become a better person.

I"m not sure being a better person is someone who always eschews violence. Not in today's world.

[quote]It would be so easy to poison someone with fentanyl....

Kouri Richens murdered her hot ginger husband by spiking his moscow mule with fentanyl. Then she wrote a children's book about grief and went on local talk shows as the poor widow in mourning. The cunt almost got away with it.

Richins*^

What position was Clayton found in?

Ass bent over with jeans around his ankles?

R189 maybe she got tired of him using his torn shirt sleeves to wipe his ass.

Several crotchfruit, no life insurance, but money for cocaine.

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At least Clayton's mom through her lawyer is calling out the other families for being hostile with law enforcement. She seems willing to listen to what LE says.

R195, poor mom.

I believe it was McGeeney's girlfriend who broke into the house after a couple of days. She is also being represented by the same lawyer. She knew what he was up to.

[quote]It would be so easy to poison someone with fentanyl....

That reminds me of the mom who had enough of her brat, so she laced the kid’s juice with fentanyl but was cleared of murder because the state couldn’t prove it was intentional — even though there was enough in the kid’s system to kill two horses. If the state can’t prove intention to murder a helpless toddler, imagine how hard it must to prove the murder of a recreational drug user.

Why do all these families have lawyers?

Seriously. Are they all planning lawsuits? Against whom and for what?

I'd like to know how they're PAYING for all these lawyers.

Duh—

I guess the lawyers received a retainer through the gfm. Usually these ambulance chasers will only take cases they can win though.

It's nice that low lifes everywhere have a sense of community and take care of each other with GoFundMe. Who needs a bank account!

Surprise twist: the families hired partier #5 or some unidentified to person to poison their deadbeat relatives by selling them something laced with deadly amounts of fentanyl. The hitman will eventually be paid their balance due with some of the GFM funds. That would make Nancy Grace spontaneously combust on air!

Thanks Obama!

Just freeze outside a couple days! I love you guys!

If it was homicide, it’s highly unlikely all three were the targets. More likely it’s similar to the Excedrin murders, where one person was targeted but others killed to make the poisonings look random, and to obscure the motive.

Remember the killer dad who laced 3 jumbo Pixie Sticks with cyanide — one to kill his son, the other two to make it look like some maniac handed them out on Halloween? Luckily he was caught and the other 2 kids were stopped before eating the cyanide. That bastard ruined Halloween!

Thanks, r207, for adding so much nonsense to a non-mystery.

Today would have been their big day 😥

I don't recall the Halloween poisoning incident, so I looked it up using the Google search engine.

50 years ago. Halloween was ruined for kids quite a long time ago.

Let's all solemnly empty out a shitty Bud Light in the yard in their honor.

These guys are from trashy backgrounds but I have empathy for them even though their families are grifting ass psychos.

The GoFundMe campaign created by stepmom to retrieve a personal effect on her husband's behalf and the other to retain legal services (?) stand out as particularly grim.

R212, I joke around but have empathy, too. R209 is right. This woulda been their big day.

R210 what legitimate reason would any insurance agency have to write an insurance policy for a child. It's even more boggling that the article claims the life insurance agency balked at issuing additional policies and yet they seem to do so anyway.

The murderer could not keep a job and was about to be fired for theft before he killed his son.

The Wikipedia article identified the motive as greed but doesn't explain why the murderer had so much financial stress, the cost of living was cheap back then.

Gambling addict?

The child's death sounds painful but mercifully quick.

r215 is AI drunk texting?

Particular grift—. FIFY

I think R215 is referring to the Halloween cyanide killer of 1974, not the fentanyl “killer.”

BTW, the Halloween killer went on and on about a mysterious man who was handing out Pixy Stix to the trick or treaters, similar to the people squawking about “THE CHEMIST!” Food for thought.

[quote]Today would have been their big day.

Sadly, It was January 7th that turned out to be the really big day for them.

[quote]I don't recall the Halloween poisoning incident, so I looked it up using the Google search engine.

[quote]50 years ago. Halloween was ruined for kids quite a long time ago.

While I recall all the hysteria over poisoned candy, it didn't stop my friends and me from trick-or-treating in the late 70s. In fact I filled a whole pillowcase in 1979 because my family moved on Halloween night, allowing me to canvas two neighborhoods. The holiday gradually tapered off later as the general culture moved away from latchkey kids being allowed out of their parents' sight for hours at a time.

Who put the Fent in my bump bah bump bah bump?

Your family moved on Halloweed R221? Are you Roma Gypsies? That's crazy but good for you getting twice the goods! We did too, I was born in Nevada and Nevada day was a holiday and on October 31st I think, so we had the day off and trick or treated the day before Halloween, and on Halloween. We all did it, I wonder if they still do. Good times.

My town always had trick-or-treating on October 30th ("Beggars' Night" was the night before Halloween), so if you were enterprising and had access to transportation, you could go trick-or-treating both nights.

I wonder if the current fentanyl scare will cancel trick or treating this Halloween, since it’s so easy to get a hold of. A fentanyl killer could start a modern public hysteria like the Candy Man did back in the 70s.

R223 I think we all need to hear more about "Nevada Day".

Ha, R226, There's not much to tell, I only lived there when I was a kid. We got Halloween off school and we trick or treated two nights. I'm sure there was some kind of parade or something but that didn't interest us, we just wanted to sleep in and eat lots of candy. It breaks my heart now on Halloween, I have maybe 12 kids come by. We had a two story house and the front door was downstairs and we had to sit at the bottom of the stairs cause the doorbell rang non stop. Everyone trick or treated, it was a blast.

I liked Halloween because I wanted to see which one of my boy friends from school dressed as girls.

R221, lucky you, but the logistics of your move are puzzling. The window for trick-or-treating is not that long. How does an entire family move in an hour or two? Most people take all day.

Jesus Christ, r229. Why did you have to make your jealousy so palpable?

They've been revived!!!!

It's a miracle.

So, this went precisely nowhere. As expected.

Oh I think we should hit up these intrepid, lawyer hiring, relatives. See if there's any new news. They sure had a lot to say last month, right? now they just skulk away with their crowd fund money?

Or they got some information that made them appear to be assholes.

Nah. That wouldn't matter to them. We already know they have absolutely no self-awareness.

Must be something else that shut them up.

Hmmm. Maybe...maybe the undead friends told them if they didn't shut up about them, and stop with the accusations, they'd get their asses sued off and lose all that grifted GoFundMe money.

I’ll bet when the toxicology and autopsy reports confirmed the cause of death and the attention of investigators focused on who supplied the drugs, and where they came from, and how far back it could be traced… everyone got real quiet. For a variety of reasons.

Oh well that's too bad R236, cause I want to hear from them now, about the gay chemist who killed their boyfriends because he was gay for them, I guess. The dude is in rehab, and good for him, but he can't go back to that place, he already moved out.

That's what it's going to come down to, r236. They've got the decedents' cell phones as well as Willis's and the fifth guy's. They're going to figure out who obtained how much of which substances from which source(s) and how often. That and the official autopsy/tox results. I suspect there will be physical signs of long-term abuse.

But probably the chemist was pulling a long con! He's been doing drugs with them for years, plotting this day.

It wasn't the girlfriends / fiancées who were accusing Willis of poisoning the other 3. It was one of the dads plus a male cousin.

The police probably got phone records that show one of the three dead guys brought the drugs.

R241, 100% that is what shut them up. If it was the chemist who made the buy, we would have a different tone from the family and the police too.

Look up to r238, r241.

Any updates?

Yes, R244, they’re still dead.

Damn it, I thought your post was an update, Elder Lez. Wondering if our intrepid host is out of treatment yet.

Well, one father is in full blown denial. Not that coke and fentanyl were in his son's system, but no way he ingested them voluntarily.

[QUOTE]But the [drugs] – I’m not buying that. I’m not arguing that that was what they found in his system, but how it got into the system, we still don’t know.”

And, well, wasn't this predictable?

Kansas City Chiefs fans' deaths: Families at odds threaten lawsuits against each other

David Harrington's dad says their family is considering a wrongful death lawsuit; Jordan Willis may sue for slander and defamation, a source close to him says

A source close to Willis told Fox News Digital on Monday that the HIV scientist, who has since moved out of his Kansas City home and spent a stint in a rehab facility, "has been left with no choice but to consider slander and defamation suits against these families, friends and significant others who have baselessly accused him in a smear campaign on every public forum willing to give them a platform to blame and point fingers."

Gawd. People had kind of forgotten about it, now they bring it up again and remind us these guys were DOING DRUGS!

Christ. I was slightly sympathetic to these families in the immediate aftermath of the deaths, sure that when the toxicology reports were released they would come to their senses and issue a public apology to Willis. At this point, I hope he sues each and every one of them. Though I'm not sure they're worth much, it will at least clear his name and prevent them from running their mouths further.

They are ALLLLL on pills. They all get high. They are all scummy

The families have made their gogriftme money and should leave it alone.

[quote] Jordan Willis may sue for slander and defamation, a source close to him says.

He absolutely should. They’re still trying to imply he injected the dead guys with fentanyl. It’s insane. People need to learn the consequences of lying and defaming people. Americans have far too much freedom to say whatever the fuck they want about people with zero repercussions. People need to learn their lessons and shut their fucking mouths.

This was their intention all along. They all hired lawyers a long time ago at a time when they hadn't even gotten any test results yet.

Their grief was so great they saw dollar signs.

American “grief” does that to people.