Trump’s White House enabled drug addiction?
The article doesn't specify the frequency of handouts and only mentions two drugs, Ambien and Provigil. Sounds like they were freebies, too. Link to follow. This has failed to post twice now.
Trump’s White House Pharmacy Handed Out Drugs Like Candy: Report
A Department of Defense report found an obscene lack of control over the handling of controlled medications while Trump was in office
While Trump lived under the White House roof, the pharmacy reportedly kept messy, handwritten records, spent lavishly on brand-name medications, and failed to comply with a slew of federal law and Department of Defense regulations governing the handling, distribution, and disposal of prescription medication.
Through in-person inspections and interviews with over 120 officials, the report concluded “that the White House Medical Unit provided a wide range of health care and pharmaceutical services to ineligible White House staff in violation of Federal law and regulation and DoD policy. Additionally, the White House Medical Unit dispensed prescription medications, including controlled substances, to ineligible White House staff.”
|February 11, 2024 3:25 PM
Where is this article of which you speak?
|January 25, 2024 12:40 AM
It looks like the link is the problem. It's in Rolling Stone for those interested.
They took Ronny Jackson out of the White House, but his spirit remained.
|January 25, 2024 12:41 AM
Try this, r1. I tried to post the link three times.
|January 25, 2024 12:45 AM
Dr. Ronny aka the Candyman is old news. Now he's a House member from shithole Texas towns of Waco and Amarillo, getting in fights, sexually harassing the young women, and closing down the bars.
|January 25, 2024 12:47 AM
Vanity fair article from 2019.
|January 25, 2024 12:53 AM
Once again, nothing but the best and brightest (junkies and drug addicts) for the Trump administratio. Can't wait for Trump 2.0.
|January 25, 2024 1:28 AM
It persisted after Ronny, right? Isn't that at issue?
|January 25, 2024 2:26 AM
Trump ran a criminal WH just like himself.
|January 25, 2024 2:40 AM
It did persist beyond Ronny. That's the issue
|January 25, 2024 5:47 AM
Can the Navy now discipline him retroactively?
|January 25, 2024 7:38 AM
At rallies he still brings up the bag of cocaine found in Biden's White House.
|January 25, 2024 8:18 AM
I wish my job gave me drugs
|January 25, 2024 10:34 AM
This is old news, let's talk about Hunter Biden's big dick!
|January 26, 2024 3:03 PM
Drs nurses and other health care providers have a high rate of addiction or drug abuse problems. It’s the easy access. And getting drugs while being a military health care provider back in the day I had access to a lot,of good shit that was relatively easy to get. Shift work days night afternoons really fucked up sleeping. Unless you were well supplied.
And when your co workers in the civilian world are doctors it’s not unheard of to get freebies or samples off the books.
I bet there are a hell of a lot of docs that have given sleeping meds for international flights to friends, family and coworkers. And not with a Rx
The original coverage of this story surprised me not even a little.
|January 26, 2024 3:16 PM
Who in the name of the Orange-Adderall-Snorting-Tub-of-Lard, didn't know this???
|January 26, 2024 4:10 PM
Sure, nothing to see here, dispensing thousands of pre-packaged controlled substances to your staff, by the thousands is exactly like slipping your sister-in-law an Ambien for her flight to Paris, she bought economy plus but used miles to upgrade to business, for her 40th birthday.
This is nothing, whatever you do, don't ask about Trump's drug use and what pills he snorted.
|January 26, 2024 4:22 PM
OH look another Trump thread.
|January 26, 2024 4:23 PM
They complain about fentanyl coming over the border but were handing it out at the White House
|January 27, 2024 7:55 PM
Who was getting all the ketamine and fentanyl?
|January 28, 2024 4:18 AM
Another thing he has in common with Hitler. The Nazi elite, and half the army, were increasingly off their faces on meth as the War went on. True story--from historians, not the internet.
|January 28, 2024 4:46 AM
These medications are designed for, studied, and tested upon white men exclusively. They are totally safe.
They are only dangerous when brown people or vagina havers take them because those groups cannot control themselves and they abuse them.
|January 28, 2024 5:33 AM
Many combat troops over the decades have resorted to hard drugs. Including speed , uppers , downers, copious amounts of booze and lots of tobacco and other shit.. Some have used speed when they go on a mission. Some claim to have used uppers and downers to cut the night stay awake and make things clear. Never made sense to me I was constantly wired.
And today many spec ops troops in the US and around the world are taking illegal drugs regularly for training and for missions.
It’s not new it predates the Nazis and ww2 and it will be a thing decades from now. Nothing you will ever have to experience or worry about.
|January 28, 2024 12:49 PM
Kim was probably washing her ambien down with tequila
|January 28, 2024 6:10 PM
R22 Dr Carl hart says it’s all men with high social rank. It’s a bit hilarious to listen to him, he is an example and participant in the belief that only the privileged can “handle” drugs
|January 28, 2024 6:29 PM
This is one of those little details about the presidency that Trump was not aware of until he became POTUS, and when he discovered he had his own pharmacy that he could control, it was like Christmas morning every day. You can imagine after a lifetime of having to find a doctor willing to write prescriptions for whatever you wanted and how much that cost, to discover that all you had to do was say "gimme adderall" and it would appear in a little paper cup with a can of coke was sort of like when a kid discovers you can tell Alexa to bring me the latest Star Wars figurine and it shows up the next day... until parents get the bill like the way that J6 was Trump presenting the bill to Americans for their stupidity in electing a man-child wanna-be despot to the highest office in the world.
|January 28, 2024 6:37 PM
This is such a lie! Hunter Biden and Killary must have snuck into the White House while my president Trump was working his fingers to the bone, putting America first! The Biden Crime family, run by Obummer, is responsible for this latest smear campaign against America's first family! Libterrorists, what don't you get, that we are godly Christians and not addicts like all of you and Hunter!
|January 28, 2024 7:09 PM
It goes back at least as far as Scandinavian berserkers who used hallucinogens before their rampages. Hitler was on a [italic]lot[/italic] of drugs, including Pervitin, which was some sort of amphetamine, IIRC. Amphetamine use kept soldiers on both sides going in WWII. Some Israeli soldiers used them to keep going during the Yom Kippur War. And the October 7 attackers in Israel were found with Captagon on their bodies.
|January 28, 2024 9:03 PM
There's nothing wrong with a little ketamine, it takes the edge off!
|January 28, 2024 9:08 PM
Back when Ronny wrecked the company car (i.e. U S government taxpayer paid vehicle) and word about the pharmacy excesses started coming out, IIRC the worst accusations were about Jackson handing Ambien out like candy on foreign trips and being an all around asshole to staff. But this is beyond the pale
[QUOTE]for a clinic that doesn’t typically do procedures w/ moderate sedation they sure are they ordering prodigious quantities of morphine, fentanyl, versed, & ketamine…?
Prodigious? Where did the drugs go? More importantly, who is going to bear the consequences? If the staff that ordered were under direct orders (they're all Navy) could they still be held responsible? Can Jackson be brought back for a court martial?
|January 28, 2024 11:27 PM
Doubtful r31. But woe betide the idiot who left his coke in the cubby at the white house
|January 28, 2024 11:31 PM
The DOJ won't even court martial Mike Flynn, who is currently building his own army to kill other Americans and our elected representatives.
|January 29, 2024 12:04 AM
Where are the moral, upright Christian church ladies like MTG and Lauren Boebert? They should be really upset about all of the White House drugging under Trump.
|January 29, 2024 12:06 AM
He would have to have committed the offenses while in uniform, r33.
|January 29, 2024 12:08 AM
As strictly regulated by the Federal Government that Controlled Substances now are in the U.S. --all narcotics except for acute post-operative and trauma care must MUST be prescribed by a Licensed Pain Management Specialist who makes patients sign Govt-regulated contracts, what really blows my mind is they were actually prescribing VERSED for fucks sake. REALLY? A preoperative anesthesia that is guaranteed to put you out ( and should very well be monitored)?? How the fuck did Jackson think he could justify THAT hand-out. And who the Hell can actually function at Work after ?( since the purpose of the White House infirmary to treat ailments in the Work Setting).
Of course we know Trump was off his rocks 24/7 and would ingest Pop-rocks if someone told them he could get high, but the profound lack of responsible medical oversight and management in this situation was truly breathtaking.
|January 29, 2024 1:12 AM
Usually correct but a retired officer can be recalled to AD for the purpose of a court martial. Not someone who did 5 years then left but a retired officer.
|January 29, 2024 10:15 AM
It was an 80 page report. I wonder if it got into what Versed might have been used for.
|January 29, 2024 5:23 PM
[quote] The Nazi elite, and half the army, were increasingly off their faces on meth as the War went on
So were we.
So were the British.
So was the resistance.
All countries military and leaders had access to stimulants during WW2, especially members of Air Forces (in our case the Army Air Corps). Pilots were in freezing cold planes for hours at a time. Meth kept them awake and alert. It also kept them angry, which is good in a situation where they’re waiting hours to strafe or bomb somewhere.
Infantry also used them on long marches through forests. Fixed machine gunners used them to stay alert.
We used them in vietnam. And I got news….we still use them . Not just in combat but in training missions. It’s thoroughly accepted military practice.
They’re called Go pills
You literally cannot run a war without the use of stimulants. You also better have a good excuse if you’re issued Go pills, told to use them and you dont want to take them.
In between wars the military is all “We have severe restrictions on these drugs.” In the run up to war and during war, those restrictions go out the window.
We make such a big deal over the Nazis having uppers but everyone had them. Snipers in Finland, resistance members in all countries, generals, admirals. When you needed to be awake, you needed drugs. As wars went on, you needed to be awake so much more at the end, whether you’re winning or losing,
|January 29, 2024 8:22 PM
The use of anesthetics - did they perform things like colonoscopies? That’s an office procedure, so it’s possible they were performed in WH, especially for presidents and spouses.
|January 29, 2024 8:49 PM
The drugs were for Melania's "kidney" surgery.
|January 29, 2024 8:50 PM
Ivanka needed painkillers after her second nose job
|January 29, 2024 8:54 PM
[QUOTE]Even clandestine surgery was available.
Aliases were used “to provide free specialty care and surgery to ineligible White House staff members at military medical treatment facilities,” according to the report. Former staffers told the inspectors that an ineligible White House employee received free elective surgery and that “the unit altered practices to cater to high‑ranking officials.”
[QUOTE]One staffer said, “We bent the rules to meet this very weird, strange culture that was there, and I think it was really to just impress people.”
[QUOTE]When asked about possible crimes related to the findings, a Pentagon inspector general spokeswoman responded that “We do not confirm or deny criminal investigations.”
|January 29, 2024 9:15 PM
That's nice and all, that soldiers of all stripes needed pharmacy help.
We are, however, talking about the pampered pricks in Orange Jesus' White House using those drugs for parties, not going into battle.
|January 29, 2024 9:42 PM
[quote] The investigation began in 2018, following complaints about “improper medical practices” by an unnamed senior military officer
Probably John Kelly.
Remember how Kelly banned Andrew Giuliani from the Oval Office? I’m wondering if Giuliani was improperly using the clinic for himself and getting stuff for his father.
Kelly revoked Giuliani’s security clearance. Nobody says why, just that Kelly felt Giuliani was involved where he shouldn’t be involved.
Someone else said: “He (Andrew) doesn’t really try to be involved in anything,” one former senior White House official told me, speaking on the condition of anonymity in order to be candid. “He’s just having a nice time.”
Yeah, I’ll bet he was having a nice time.
[quote] Kelly revoked Andrew’s West Wing access, disrupting the staffer’s otherwise freewheeling setup. Giuliani “flipped out” about the downgrade, the third former official said. Four of the former officials said Giuliani’s father immediately spoke about it with Trump
|January 29, 2024 9:43 PM
The anesthesia was needed for that time they had to surgically remove Lady Lindsey from Trump's ass.
|January 29, 2024 10:26 PM
[quote] Kelly took issue with Rudy’s frequent television appearances, many of the officials told me, griping that the president’s lawyer would go on shows to talk about one problem, but leave the set having created several more. Andrew, in Kelly’s eyes, appeared little more than an unhelpful extension of his father. “Kelly hated him because he didn’t like that there was this random guy … who played golf with Trump and whose dad was a problem,” the second former official explained.
Wow. I bet Giuliani is somehow involved in this. I doubt Kelly would take a hard ass stance on someone because his dad is a pain in the ass. As far as nepotism goes, the entire world is full of nepotism. Someone like Kelly understands that because the upper ranks of military are full of nepotism too.
PS - it took SIX years to investigate this and release a report. And nobody is named as a problem. Only one sentence reports that the WH clinic agrees not to do shit like this anymore. Was there wrongdoing? Yes. Will the wrongdoers be named and suffer any penalty? No.
“Some people did stuff wrong but we promise it won’t be done anymore. Moving on…..”
|January 29, 2024 10:48 PM
When will the *Mass Media* actually start reporting on this?
|January 29, 2024 10:50 PM
Ben spills the tea. The only thing he leaves out is who was taking the candy. It was a “Pill Mill”!
|January 30, 2024 12:40 AM
You don't think Junior Mint and Gargoyle were buying it off the street, do you?
|January 30, 2024 6:00 AM
Can the OIG do anything aside from release a report about this or does it also have to stand in the long ass line at the DOJ, hoping Garland will do something about this in the next decade?
Can the ATF or FBI investigate or arrest Ronny, at least?
|January 30, 2024 11:57 AM
The friggin' Pentagon investigated and agrees. So...is DOJ going to get up off it's ass? Or are reg, no white Trumper Americans the only addicts and drug pushers they bother to go after?
"Trump-era White House Medical Unit gave controlled substances to ineligible staff, watchdog finds"
|January 30, 2024 3:00 PM
Who were the staff members getting drugs who were ineligible?
Who wrote the RXs?
Who dispensed the drugs?
Why the pentagon? Where’s the DEA? The pentagon is who you call in when you want to COVER UP wrongdoing.
If we had drugs missing from our controlled substances and they weren’t found, we got a visit from the FBI.
Were there any ODs/suicides during this time period? I remember seeing a funeral notice for a nurse on one of the floors I used go to when I brought patients back from the OR. “That’s terrible, what happened?” She’d gone horseback riding over the weekend, I was told, and was thrown from the horse. She didn’t come to work Monday and was found dead in her bed. Passed away in her sleep.”
About a year later I found it was a Demerol OD.
We pay for that shit. We have a right to know. It’s unthinkable that media is agreeing not to investigate this.
|February 1, 2024 5:51 PM
I will bet that some form of this issue will be found in previous WH medical units if they investigate. Especially around sleep aids.
|February 1, 2024 6:01 PM
I’m sure sleep aids are widely prescribed because people in govt cabinet and their aides have to travel across tie zones and it’s easy to sleep on a plane if you’ve got a nice reclining seat. Wake up in your destination refreshed. That’s not a problem for me. But fentanyl, oxy?
What kind if “report” names no names? That’s bit a report, that’s a coverup. It’s an excuse.
|February 1, 2024 6:51 PM
As I read the article it’s not being claimed they were handing out fentanyl and oxy. They are being hit on sloppy record keeping for those drugs. They did not have a pharmacist on staff.
They are being charged with letting some WH staff use the facilities when they should have gone elsewhere for care.
They are being charged ( not legally charged but by the complaints) with handing out two types of sleep aids.
|February 1, 2024 7:09 PM
[QUOTE]Why the pentagon? Where’s the DEA? The pentagon is who you call in when you want to COVER UP wrongdoing.
The Pentagon because the WH Medical Unit is staffed by Navy personnel. I think one of the complicating issues about identifying the staff who ordered and dispensed the drugs is that they work within a command structure in which orders are given and obeyed. And it starts at the top with the CiC. If the personnel refused to follow orders or even questioned them seriously what would happen to their Navy careers? Would insubordination charges follow them around? This is something to consider when crazy, drunk, vindictive Ronny Jackson is your superior officer.
And I 100% believe it came straight from the top. Trump was probably giddy when he realized there's a full service pharmacy under his roof. The purchase of brand names instead of generics also has his fingerprints all over it. "What is this shit Ronnie? WTF, this is the WH, we get the best quality here."
As far as who the ineligible staff members were, I suppose they'd still be considered patients therefore covered by HIPAA.
What happens next? Does the DEA get involved? Will Democrats call hearings in 2025 if they take back the House? I saw a tweet by a pharmacist who said he'd be in jail if he kept comparable records.
|February 2, 2024 12:05 AM
Has the DOJ done anything about this yet?
Someone wake Garland up, please. Lie to him and present this case as it happened under a Democrat in the White House; he'll support a Special Counsel before he realizes that it was during Orange Jesus ' tenure.
|February 11, 2024 2:28 PM
Garland has long established a pattern. It is fear of prosecuting Republicans in high-level political roles and influence. His tactics are delay and inaction.
|February 11, 2024 3:12 PM
What does Merrick Garland do? I rarely hear of big DoJ indictments/wins from this administration. Garland, like Patrick Fitzgerald and Robert Mueller, are Republican smoothovers. They pretend to be diligently pursuing cases then drop them, or name some 3rd tier patsy as the person who gets a strict talking to and maybe a delayed sentence.
|February 11, 2024 3:25 PM