New York Times runs opinion piece asking if Taylor Swift is a lesbian

There have always been rumors…

The same NYT that declared Beyoncé a Religion. This is getting so silly.

NYT is partisan bias trash and they hate that Taylor is pro Biden. The good news is, her fan base has no intention of ever reading the NYT. Most have never even heard of it.

As unappealing as is her personalty I really can't care whether Taylor is a lesbian or otherwise. She just doesn't interest me.

That article is endless.

Who cares?

It's none of our business.

[quote]in our language — that she has some affinity for queer identity.

The author is probably a heterosexual woman.

A straight woman who might eat pussy?

Shocking. Absolutely shocking.

How is this journalism?

It’s not. It’s an opinion piece. That’s why it says Opinion at the top, and the author is identified as an opinion writer.

I don’t care about her sexuality. What does bug me is when her obviously fake relationship with Travis Kelce is one of the lead stories on mainstream news. News outlets are struggling for credibility already, so for them to push out this PR stuff doesn’t help their credibility.

I wouldn't know a Taylor Swift song if I heard it but her sex life is her business.

"Tee hee"

This woman is not my favorite, with that being said she still deserves her privacy whether she's gay , bi or any of the multiple new designations of sexuality bestowed upon us by the woke crowd.

Dataloungers think her and Travis are bearding each other. Something tells me that they are both 100% straight however are our allies.

This reactionary Mass Hysteria over somebody's sexual orientation needs to stop.

Lol...

Queer politics is a minefield. Old enough to remember when outing people was considered despicable, especially if done by the gay community, unless it was homophobic politicians or something. This is a very different take.

R7 the author of the op ed is a MAN, photo in this thread.

What are you referring to re: "playing with fire" OP?

R17:

Anna Marks, who wrote the op-ed in The New York Times, is a woman.

Oliver Darcy, who wrote the CNN reaction story and whose photo appears in The Daily Mail's writeup, is a man.

How dare you assume anyone's gender based on a DAMN PIC, R19!

What do you think this is? 2018??

Who gives a shit that a straight woman is "signalling" to "queers" that she might have a "queer identity"?

There's really no such thing as gender and there are thousands of genders and it can't possibly affect you and it's the most important thing in the world.

As always, I stopped reading at the word "queer."

Her friends circle has lots of rumored closet gay men. It’s suspicious

I’m not reading anything with “queer” in it.

R3 is the dumbest, slowest, most special and probably the eagerest bottom in all of China’s Tech enslavement camps.

Either that, or it’s just ChatGPT writing as some Aspie/MAGAt.

She deserves her privacy but PR machine is pushing her personal relationship out constantly. It was inevitable that other fameballs, like this author, are going to try to capitalize on it.

*But HER PR machine...

If they published this, that makes me wonder if they know something? Just seems strange to do.

Between that and this article about Kelce from earlier this week, I am convinced it's a fake relationship.

R29, people are getting sick of her fake publicity romances, and are starting to call her out on it.

And interestingly, that DM story about the Kelce PR machine is based on a NYT piece from last week.

I think it's time for the media to stop going along with fauxmances. It's not real journalism, it's PR or 'client journalism'.

Sorry, but she's asking for it. Nobody is perfect, and I think that leading the media on will be her downfall. I'm not saying that TS should tell people " everything " about her life, but she's on a slippery slope with this. Fuck it, I really couldn't say what her music sounds like, but I know eventually the press will try to bring her down. A monstrous business.

The Lizard People who created this product called "Taylor Swift," are not going to be happy with the NYT article!

Has she ever dated a civilian? It's always fellow celebrities which lends credence to the bearding rumors, right? And that's because you can't trust a regular person or the people in their circle.

How far the NYT has fallen if they're running opinion pieces of whether Swift is a lesbian.

That's just pathetic whether she is or isn't one.

She could avoid the press if she wanted to. It's not like the paparazzi hounding Britney Spears in 2006-8. Swift's every appearance in the tabloids is obviously carefully choreographed.

[quote] How far the NYT has fallen if they're running opinion pieces of whether Swift is a lesbian.

The editorial staff politburo are mostly Gen Z and Millennials now

The NYTimes is embarrassing and Swift has been a real publicity whore lately.

I preferred when she disappeared to England for a couple years and released that folk album. Now she’s back to paparazzi photos and hanging out with her “squad” and this whole thing with the football player and carrying on like some sorority girl at his games.

It’s too much.

Good to know NYT is covering the important issues.

There are so many layers of stupid and wrong here, I can barely sort it out. First level, Swift never warranted this attention and her contributions to music are, at best, mediocre Second level even if they weren't and she was the greatest musical artist of modern times, no one should give 3 shits about her personal life Now we have reached the 3rd level of stupid, where some self obsessed imbecile "outs" her because she/he/they/whogivesaratsass needs validation 4th level now, people are saying she "deserves" all this because...idk why but bitterness and stupidity are good theoried

And finally the 5th level of dumbassery, all this is covered, reported and validated by the New York Times....it's good to know that this once prestigious paper knows what's important. Certainly not the 2 major wars were people are being massacred daily. The important stuff like whether a mediocre pop star dives for clam meat.

We are going straight down the crapper. Have a nice day.

Between this article and the Jo Koy joke, it hasn't been a good weekend for attention whore Taylor Swift!

[quote] I preferred when she disappeared to England for a couple years and released that folk album. Now she’s back to paparazzi photos and hanging out with her “squad” and this whole thing with the football player and carrying on like some sorority girl at his games.

Just think - if Joe Alwyn had taken one for the tram and proposed, we would be spared all this nonsense.

Was it a killer tram?

The koy joke wasn’t even bad - I was expecting something somewhat offensive. But he just said the NFL shows a lot of shots of her at the games? And she was pissed at that?

I don’t know for sure, because they were just before my time, but it seems like Monroe and DiMaggio must have done it better.

There’s no mystique with these two other than why on earth she has appeared everyfuckingwhere when I don’t look for her at all. I’m a KC Chiefs fan so Kelce’s record as a player and his bond with Mahomes have always been notable to me, but his football team’s season has sucked painfully and I don’t gaf if this singer wears a jacket like his into the suite at Arrowhead in which she proceeds to shriek with that freakishly large mouth covered in red lipstick that I’m seeing all the time.

I wish she’d fade out but that seems like too much to hope for as long as people keep clicking on the stuff their PR teams generate.

[quote] I wish she’d fade out but that seems like too much to hope for as long as people keep clicking on the stuff their PR teams generate.

Which is why I'm glad she's coming under scrutiny, and not just being given a pass for her antics.

Hopefully, she'll think twice about all the attention seeking stunts, and just decide to go away on her own!

[quote] Dataloungers think her and Travis are bearding each other. Something tells me that they are both 100% straight however are our allies.

Her is?

Oh dear.

R48

How brave of you to have held up so well. It’s uplifting to see grown men not bend or break under the onslaught of Taylor news. Weaker men just don’t hold up.

We need examples of strong men like yourself.

[quote] How brave of you to have held up so well. It’s uplifting to see grown men not bend or break under the onslaught of Taylor news. Weaker men just don’t hold up.

Stop crying, R40.

You and Taylor really need to put on your big girl panties, if you're going to make it in the industry.

I thought Taylor Swift was a strong, independent woman? Don't tell me that she crumbles under a little bit of criticism.

Oh, and if she's so fucking strong, then why does she always need a man on her arm, and a relationship to flaunt?

Hint: IT'S ALL FAKE.

Oh, and she's a LESBIAN.

Dumb cunts. (You AND Taylor)

R51

No she seems to be holding up well.

The strong I referenced was you not her. I don’t know her at all. You are an inspiration,

It’s the weak cunts that seem to melt because of her and her coverage.. When I see strong men like yourself refusing to cave under the pressure that is TS I am so glad we have tough mentally stable men like you who can resist her.

And as a side note when did grown adult men like we see on DL became obsessed with a female pop icon that caters to young girls?

[quote] when did grown adult men like we see on DL became obsessed with a female pop icon that caters to young girls?

When she started flinging her DUMB FACE and her FAKE RELATIONSHIPS all over the news, videos, print media, social media and FOOTBALL GAMES in front of the entire world, for everyone to see!

We had no choice.

This attention whore bitch forced us all to look at her.

Now that we see her, THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES.

The bitch can't sing, her music is garbage, and her relationships are all fake!

There. You have your fucking answer.

It's a LIE and I'm just the fella to prove it!

It's a LIE and I'm just the gal to prove it!

R53

Most sane people can avoid her quite well if they choose. In fact I had never heard one of her songs that I knew was hers and I had never read an article bout her, nor did I ever watch a video with her performing u til I came to DL. And I had paid no attention to who she had been dating. Avoiding her , her stories, and her songs was quite easy.

Then I came to DL.

And the Swifty Queens of DL going on and on and on and on about her virtually every fucking day got the better of my curiosity.

I still have no idea why an adult man would be so consumed with her. But MAGA men and many gay men seem to have found common ground as far as their interest and hate for her.

Sane people can find ways to live a virtually Taylor Swift Free Life.

[quote]Sane people can find ways to live a virtually Taylor Swift Free Life.

Only if you never read newspapers or news websites and never follow music and entertainment.

R57

Try this it’s really not that hard.

Don’t fucking read the Taylor swift stories you see in the newspaper or on line. If you see her name in an article just skip over it like it does not exist. Don’t play her music. And here is a big one to help you. Quit starting or clicking on TS articles on DL. You show up every fucking time.

If you can’t manage that then the problem is not some female pop star whose main audience is girls and young woman.

R6 do you know anything about this website at all?

Besides, it’s a fucking OPINION PIECE. And Shaun Mendes and other male entertainers have also had their sexuality questioned! Taylor is not special.

An opinion piece in the NYT speculating on someone's sexuality, r59? And that is somehow ok?

Yes it is okay. If Taylor doesn’t like it then she should not be a celebrity. They speculate on her heterosexuality but they can’t allude to her possibly being gay?

Fucking Swifty Frauen invading the site with their fake umbrage and pearl clutching. Psycho heifers. Be OUT!

No one speculates on her heterosexuality, r61 - she dates men.

Well, they report her endless relationships with famous men but at some point some critical thinking isn't warranted? I am tired of these obviously fake relationships being promoted as real. There's a very long tradition of it, going back to the golden days of Hollywood - 'smoke and mirrors' - but pretending to be straight these days means that you still buy into that there's something bad about being gay.

R63

“ I am tired of…”

This is the thing she does not understand , her sex life has an adverse impact on on others on innocent people like you.

The Greatest Generation never had to live thru this kind of shit.

Do we have a pesticide for Swifties?

R63, if you really think Taylor Swift's a lesbian then you're a bit dim.

R66 Frankly, my assumption is that the NYT knows something which is why they agreed to run that piece. They are trying to tell us without telling us which could get them sued if they don't have an actual video of her fucking a woman.

[quote]No one speculates on her heterosexuality, [R61] - she dates men.

Are you seriously this fucking dense? Swift has made her entire career off of speculation on her Heterosexuality thanks her drippy pop lyrics that resemble a teenage girl's diary. She's exploited all of the men in her "relationships" but never reveals her own faults or how she contributes to it's failure. So why not speculate on her alleged homosexuality? She's a celebrity it's par for the course , every single one of them is gossiped about. Why don't you just admit your own homophbia on a gay website and then skip back over to People.com you silly frau.

Swifties are in the room…get the glue traps and some matches…poppa wants to play…

R67, the NYT doesn't know anything. They employed a "queer" woman so they could have a "queer" hire, and the only shit she could come up with is "Taylor Swift" is signalling to us that she's queer" without explaining just what these signals are, aside from the usual "woke" crap. Don't forget, "queer" can mean a million different things, it's not limited to being attracted to your own sex.

And since when has the NYT been in the business of outing people or speculating about celebrities' sexuality?

Oh fuck off twit at r68. The issue in question is the NYT speculating on a public figure's sexuality, which is pretty appalling, and all because they got themselves a "queer" hire who's incapable of writing anything of substance on issues of sexuality. The NYT speculating is not the same same thing as the DL speculating, where no facts, evidence or ethics are required.

Taylor's PRs have paid the DL subscription!

Searching for the Opinion Piece about any Male performer being gay.....hmmm nothing in the NYT archives.

You fuck off you homophobic cunt R70. Celebrity gossip has no morals or ethics you fool it's pure speculation not academic writing, so what are you going on about? I have a feeling you wouldn't care if it was anyone else but Swift which shows your pathetic bias. Like I said skip on over to celebrity friendly People.com or maybe create a Taylor Swift fansite where you'll more likely find agreement.

Plant.

When did the NYT turn into Confidential?

[quote] When did the NYT turn into Confidential?

Maybe when they helped push the imaginary pee tape?

You're nuts, R73.

yes I am R77 and you can suck both of my nuts while you're at it loser.

Just like the Beyhive, the Swifties make me hate the stans more than I hate the objects of their worship...

R79

You and MAGA finding common ground. Both hate the swifties.

I imagine Swifties as middle class white girls for the most part.

I admire Taylor for taking a stand and supporting the Dem candidate in Tennessee. That took balls. I do admire her for that.

I have it on good authority that Taylor Swift is completely smooth down there, like a Barbie Doll, and is made up of a fluid metal substance like the most recent Terminators.

R82 Like she's a machine and almost not human? This isn't a criticism, it's what I think people like Taylor Swift are like. They are like machines, they mechanically do what is expected of them.

FUCK MAGATS and FUCK SWIFTIES.

They're all a bunch of delusional cunts.

Taylor Swift can drop dead, for all I care.

She's useless.

MAGA and The Don says love to all you faggot anti swift men out there

. We need you and your kind.keep up the good work. Don’t listen to her when she says register and vote. Ignore her. Except for Shake It Off which will now replace YMCA as you know whose entrance song.

Fag men and True Patriots working together to make America great again.

Wow, the unhinged lunatic Swifties really have invaded Datalounge (see R85).

Get lost, CUNTS!!!

This site is for grownups and GAY PEOPLE.

Your closeted lesbian hero can go fuck herself.

R86

And you are an adult male who is obsessed with a female pop star whose main audience is teen girls. Talk about grown ups.

Don’t be stupid r80. I hate Spam, and I’m sure some MAGATS hate it too. Doesn’t mean I share their views on everything else.

R88

Correct it does not mean you share all your views and everything else with MAGA. But in this you have reached across the divide and found common ground with MAGA men. How inspiring and sweet. Donald certainly approves.

A sign of future compromise and common ground for some gay men anti swifties and most MAGA men?

Time will tell but this is a solid start

R89 your attempts at gaslighting are a major FAIL.

Like Taylor’s flat ass.

R90

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Don’t be ashamed that you share common ground with MAGA men .The country could stand more not less of that.

I bet there are many other areas where you and maga men share common ground not just on a shared hate for a liberal female pop star whose main audience is young girls but in other real life issues..

My dislike of her and her stupid stans is quite different from the MAGATS…I AM BLACK AND GAY AND A DISABLED VETERAN. I’m sure I have nothing in common with them.

And by the way…PLONK!

I dislike her *and* the MAGAts. The two don't go together that well, even. One is a singer, one is about authoritarian politics. Pretty different. I can dislike both without being aligned with the MAGAts. You sound crazy and your logic is wack.

R93

It’s a fact not logic. Many Gay men based on 1000s of comments on DL hate her and MAGA men based on public comments also hate her.

If people deny that they are either stupid clueless or don’t read on DL.

It was nothing but a hit piece. The conservatives (yeah I know NYT is supposed to be liberal but has at times run with very conservative stories) have been after Taylor because of her support of Biden. Fox ran a whole half hour about how the FBI recruited her to help Biden win lol. They figure if they can paint her as a secret lesbo she will lose her fan base.

R95 So you're buying Fox's stupid conspiracy theory? Good to know.

r95 no I am not buying it, simply pointing out that the NYT OP-Ed is along the same lines. I can't remember any time when a mainstream Newspaper questioned a celebrities sexuality as an Op-Ed.

I cannot understand why Taylor Shit and her sell-out shows are so popular? Her so-called music is just so mediocre and forgettable. She's no Erykah Badu or Angie Stone. It speaks volumes about the vacuous nature of GenZ.

[quote]no I am not buying it, simply pointing out that the NYT OP-Ed is along the same lines. I can't remember any time when a mainstream Newspaper questioned a celebrities sexuality as an Op-Ed.

My first contention would be that there is NO evidence that Taylor Swift has any effect on voting. The candidate she supported in Tennessee lost. People like and are entertained by celebrities but they also know that celebrities don't live in the same world as they do. There isn't much evidence that celebrity endorsements move votes, however unintuitive you find that to be.

Secondly, why do you discount that maybe they are running this op-ed because they know something but outside of an actual sex tape can't prove it? I would bet on that, personally.

R99

It’s an op ed not a NYT editorial. In fact it’s the exact opposite of an editorial. I know you keep repeating this—-they must know something—-but you must understand that an op ed unlike an editorial is not speaking for the paper.

An op ed is an opinion piece written by someone not affiliated with the newspaper that the paper decides to publish. In this case the NYT got lots of mentions by others , lots of publicity, and lots of clicks for an op ed people saw as as a hot take opinion piece and not a NYT editorial... ,

R100 There is still an editorial decision over what op-eds to run.

R101

And the NYT hit it out of the park with this one. Like what they did or not it was a great PR business decision.

How many op eds in any newspaper gets talked about days and weeks later?

Agree with r102.

And I don't assume Swift objects to that op-ed, no matter what her sexuality is, or, lack thereof.

Of the billions of words and dollars expended on Swift, if I get only one thing about her, it's that the woman loves to be talked about.

I don't think for one moment that Swift wishes it hadn't been published.

How old are you, OP?

R103

You have much better insight as to how she feels about things than I do.

R104 Isn't your default response: What are you twelve?

This thread aged swiftly.

She’s no Jonathan Swift

A Modest Proposal: Eat it, Taylor!

And this morning swifties everywhere are rejoicing.

The Chiefs Win The Chiefs Win The Chiefs Win

She's the straightest straight that ever straight