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Why was "Hotel California" such an incredibly popular song?

It was so popular among teenagers when I was growing up, and yet I've never understood why. It's such a bummer of a song, and it's hard to imagine America's youth identifying with the lyrics: "Yep, that's exactly what the high life in Hollywood is really like."

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by Anonymousreply 89December 30, 2023 3:07 AM

"So I called up the Captain

"Please bring me my chee"

He said, "We haven't had that cheeit here

Since 1963"

by Anonymousreply 1December 28, 2023 6:00 PM

Because everybody obsessed over the line about those pretty, pretty boys and their sweet summer sweat!

by Anonymousreply 2December 28, 2023 6:01 PM

Always hated that song

by Anonymousreply 3December 28, 2023 6:02 PM

I fucking hate this song. And it is STILL popular. Whereas Stairway to Heaven's popularity has declined.

by Anonymousreply 4December 28, 2023 6:03 PM

Overplayed crap

by Anonymousreply 5December 28, 2023 6:03 PM

The song is a whole vibe, OP, it's either up your alley or it isn't, there's not much more to it.

by Anonymousreply 6December 28, 2023 6:06 PM

Because it has a lot of insider references.

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by Anonymousreply 7December 28, 2023 6:06 PM

Young people love a dark themed song with thinly veiled imagery, especially if it annoys and/or concerns their parents. It’s likely resurgent because that whole California rock sound is big with the “kids these days”.

by Anonymousreply 8December 28, 2023 6:09 PM

I always liked it. And in fact, that entire album.

Yet again, those were the days.

by Anonymousreply 9December 28, 2023 6:10 PM

It's huge in Asia.

by Anonymousreply 10December 28, 2023 6:10 PM

[Quote] because that whole California rock sound is big with the “kids these days

It is r8??

by Anonymousreply 11December 28, 2023 6:12 PM

Catchy hook, great guitar work, mysterious lyrics. What's not to love?

by Anonymousreply 12December 28, 2023 6:12 PM

r12 The whiny vocals?

by Anonymousreply 13December 28, 2023 6:13 PM

All I know is I can’t get my hands on the Stevie Nicks Barbie doll, R11.

by Anonymousreply 14December 28, 2023 6:14 PM

It was the darkness of the song.

by Anonymousreply 15December 28, 2023 6:16 PM

It’s a staple on my playlists.

by Anonymousreply 16December 28, 2023 6:19 PM

I loved it. I moved to LA in 1978, and it felt like a theme song. "The Last Resort" was the more correct theme.

by Anonymousreply 17December 28, 2023 6:20 PM

I never liked the song--the phrasing seemed awkward and the Eagles didn't have their usual harmonies.

I suspect it was popular, because Southern California was still some place aspiried to to live, although even then people were complaining about the Mexicans and the rising cost of living. The first time I went there, in 1980, they also were complaining about the Chinese moving in, too (at least in the San Gabriel Valley). It all seemed like an anti-climax---the people were no prettier than in the East or Midwest, the ocean was cold and if you looked closely, it was dirty and built on a desert. The decline of California in the collective imagination probably started around the time this song was released and it seemed like people started talking about leaving in the 90s. I've been back many times for work and family, but the idea of living there never took hold for me.

by Anonymousreply 18December 28, 2023 6:29 PM

Probably as an antidote to the Disco wave. Here are the top 100 for 1977, it seems the rock acts have more of a somber theeme:

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by Anonymousreply 19December 28, 2023 6:35 PM

Horrid song

by Anonymousreply 20December 28, 2023 6:37 PM

[quote] that whole California rock sound is big with the “kids these days”.

“Anton LaVey? Ooo-whatter YOOOOOO doing here?

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by Anonymousreply 21December 28, 2023 7:40 PM

Come

on

baby

by Anonymousreply 22December 28, 2023 7:41 PM

Beats me! Never liked it. Or most songs I ever heard by the Eagles.

by Anonymousreply 23December 28, 2023 7:46 PM

It's a long song so DJs could do lines, take a shit and get blown by a groupie without having to worry about dead air

by Anonymousreply 24December 28, 2023 7:51 PM

R8: "California music" was pretty much over by this time or in decline. The singer-songwriter thing from Laurel Canyon definitely was in decline---Linda Ronstadt was doing tone deaf Motown covers, although Jackson Browne was at his peak, but the heydays of Buffalo Springfield & The Byrds and their offshoots were well over. Beach music had had its day, although the Beach Boys were something of a nostalgia thing by then.

by Anonymousreply 25December 28, 2023 8:05 PM

I always liked it. Especially since I moved from California for professional reasons.. It’s true, you can always check out but you can never leave.

by Anonymousreply 26December 28, 2023 8:09 PM

R14 yeah that’s completely unrelated to this as was that dreams tik tok video from a few yrs back.

by Anonymousreply 27December 28, 2023 8:18 PM

For the same reason "California Dreamin'" or "Welcome To the Jungle" is such an incredibly popular song, OP

Because Los Angeles is AMERICA'S BABYLON

It captivates the imagination with its simultaneous intertwining of heaven and hell (which is actually a lyric from Hotel California!)

Unlike songs about New York with its near-religious puffery, songs about Los Angeles have always been perfectly candid about the city's flaws which, like Los Angeles itself, is part of its ironic charm.

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by Anonymousreply 28December 28, 2023 8:18 PM

It was more about the whole album. At the time, the Eagles were always touring and this was the title song/theme for their big Concept Album. Captain Fantastic and Tommy were similar concept albums of the time. "New kid in Town" and "Life in the fast lane" were just as popular. But the guitar lines at the end are lovely, electric.

by Anonymousreply 29December 28, 2023 8:24 PM

remember the line from "Angels" where Harper points out the irony of Brigham Young leading the Mormons to the promised land, and the water (Great Salt Lake) is undrinkable?

That's what Los Angeles is to the American consciousness. It's America's promised land, the terminus of "Go West, Young Man". And it is ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.

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by Anonymousreply 30December 28, 2023 8:29 PM

It's very dreamy, hypnotic music -- perfect for a time when junior high and high school kids toked up right after class.

by Anonymousreply 31December 28, 2023 8:32 PM

Every GOOD song about California is IRONIC.

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by Anonymousreply 32December 28, 2023 8:35 PM

Come on, man. I had a rough night and I hate the fuckin' Eagles, man

by Anonymousreply 33December 28, 2023 8:40 PM

Arguably the greatest California song ever written is completely ironic.

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by Anonymousreply 34December 28, 2023 8:41 PM

I like the song. I also really like Al B. Sure’s cover versions (the Spanish was sexy).

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by Anonymousreply 35December 28, 2023 8:46 PM
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by Anonymousreply 36December 28, 2023 8:46 PM

"Kiedis's alienation led him to feel that the city of Los Angeles was his only companion, and that "there was a nonhuman entity, maybe the spirit of the hills and the city, who had me in her sights and was looking after me"

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by Anonymousreply 37December 28, 2023 8:49 PM

Why? Rampant marijuana use in the 70s

by Anonymousreply 38December 28, 2023 8:52 PM

It always creeped me out when I was a kid - but I was young when this came out. It sounded like describing a horror movie.

by Anonymousreply 39December 28, 2023 8:53 PM

"California Love"'s music video incorporates the apocalyptic imagery of Mad Max

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by Anonymousreply 40December 28, 2023 8:53 PM

Don Felder wrote the music and did a wonderful job of it, in my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 41December 28, 2023 9:09 PM

It’s a bad Yelp review with a two minute guitar solo.

by Anonymousreply 42December 28, 2023 9:11 PM

There are videos on You Tube of the Eagles performing it live when it was new and they sounded great. You get to see Don Henley with his permed fro, Don Felder with his handsome face and Joe Walsh wasted. Good times.

by Anonymousreply 43December 28, 2023 9:17 PM

R37, I recently listened to Kiedis’ memoir. He spoke at length about writing that song — and is also pretty frank about his limitations as a singer. I think that song is a good example of something transcending the vocalist’s skills.

by Anonymousreply 44December 28, 2023 9:22 PM

If you play it back is says try the unrinsed cilantro pesto at Olive Garden.

by Anonymousreply 45December 28, 2023 9:31 PM

Never was a fan.

by Anonymousreply 46December 28, 2023 9:33 PM

Horrid vocals

by Anonymousreply 47December 28, 2023 9:57 PM

It's about hell, that's why it's so popular.

by Anonymousreply 48December 28, 2023 10:01 PM

I didn’t like it at the time it came out. Somewhere around 2005 or maybe earlier, a live version came out with a deconstructed (?) opening and I loved it.

Now, I like any version of it. This was the time of guitar solos. The Eagles had some really good guitar solos (One of these Nights) that weren’t too long and self-indulgent.

Don Felder and joe walsh do seem to have had fun when performing HC live.

by Anonymousreply 49December 28, 2023 10:05 PM

I never really liked Hotel California, although every time I hear it, I think a gay male singer should do a cover of it and just change the sex and have a man running the hotel.

His mind is Tiffany-twisted

He got the Mercedes-Benz, uh

He got a lot of pretty, pretty boys

That he calls friends.

by Anonymousreply 50December 28, 2023 10:08 PM

California sound

Beach Boys

Jan and Dean

Mamas & Papas

Byrds

Buffalo Springfield

Crosby, Stills Nash (later Young)

Eagles

Spirit

Jefferson Airplane

Doors

Grateful Dead

by Anonymousreply 51December 28, 2023 10:11 PM

Blue Oyster Cult album cover looks like it could be a cover for Hotel California

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by Anonymousreply 52December 28, 2023 10:13 PM

It's a great song. They lyrics are poetry, and the music and performance is first rate.

That's why.

by Anonymousreply 53December 28, 2023 10:20 PM

are

by Anonymousreply 54December 28, 2023 10:20 PM

Will drop everything to air guitar along to Hotel California.

by Anonymousreply 55December 28, 2023 10:24 PM

R37, that is one of the many Red Hot Chilli Pepper songs that is even more irritating than Hotel California. The RHCP made so many shitty, braindead songs about California. And people still eat that shit up!

by Anonymousreply 56December 28, 2023 10:24 PM

I fucking hate The Eagles.

by Anonymousreply 57December 28, 2023 10:36 PM

^ sux 2 b u

by Anonymousreply 58December 28, 2023 10:36 PM

Yeah well you know, that's just like uh your opinion, man.

by Anonymousreply 59December 28, 2023 10:49 PM

OP Ever hear of Muskrat Love?

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by Anonymousreply 60December 28, 2023 10:52 PM

It is invocative of a time when everyone and I mean everyone I knew graduated and moved to LA.

by Anonymousreply 61December 28, 2023 10:54 PM

Because California is a mindfuck and like R28 said, America's REAL sin city

by Anonymousreply 62December 28, 2023 10:58 PM

[quote]She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys. That she calls friends.

I always heard: He got a lot of pretty, pretty boys... he calls men.

by Anonymousreply 63December 28, 2023 11:06 PM

Why? Cocaine.

by Anonymousreply 64December 28, 2023 11:07 PM

[quote]The decline of California in the collective imagination probably started around the time this song was released

Okay.

by Anonymousreply 65December 28, 2023 11:33 PM

[quote] Because everybody obsessed over the line about those pretty, pretty boys and their sweet summer sweat!

Are you dancing to remember or dancing to forget?

by Anonymousreply 66December 28, 2023 11:39 PM

It is not the best song ever written or performed, for sure. Still, I liked it then and still do. The lyrics are dark and convey a mood, a mysterious picture and take me back to that time. It is a unique and obviously lasting song.

by Anonymousreply 67December 28, 2023 11:46 PM

Gold is another creepy one, by John Stewart.

by Anonymousreply 68December 28, 2023 11:48 PM

Wretched singing

by Anonymousreply 69December 28, 2023 11:48 PM

Horrible room service

by Anonymousreply 70December 28, 2023 11:58 PM

Yes, R39, exactly.

I heard it and thought it was a literal monster that they couldn’t kill. A devil or some such. It was living in that hotel and you couldn’t escape and leave.

Metaphorically, of course, but now I understand.

You get to Cali and it’s practically impossible to leave. Your life changes so much living there that even if you hate it, you can’t summon up the will or the courage to go back to where you were.

I love the song. The guitars at the end were incredible.

by Anonymousreply 71December 28, 2023 11:58 PM

It's very e-z listening.

by Anonymousreply 72December 29, 2023 12:04 AM

R34. You don’t know the half of it…

by Anonymousreply 73December 29, 2023 1:12 AM

Groovy gravitas, baby.

by Anonymousreply 74December 29, 2023 1:14 AM

i love brentwood

by Anonymousreply 75December 29, 2023 1:15 AM

R71 you’re a literal monster for using “Cali”—that’s a sin, a mortal sin.

by Anonymousreply 76December 29, 2023 1:15 AM

i love del taco

by Anonymousreply 77December 29, 2023 1:18 AM

I think a lot of people tell themselves they understand what it’s really secretly about and feel kind of smug in their knowledge that it’s about addiction/satan/LA etc.

by Anonymousreply 78December 29, 2023 2:58 AM

Henley is a pretentious lil’ twat.

by Anonymousreply 79December 29, 2023 3:12 AM

R79, maybe, but he's also undeniably talented.

by Anonymousreply 80December 29, 2023 3:16 AM

[quote] You get to Cali ...

Call it "Cali" and native Californians know you're not one.

by Anonymousreply 81December 29, 2023 4:43 AM

I didn't like the use of the word "Cali," but I thought the rest of the post / analysis was OK.

Except that California has such a high cost of living that I think people would GTFO and return home to Idaho or wherever. (You can check and you can leave, too.)

by Anonymousreply 82December 29, 2023 5:18 AM

I never liked it but it's a weird song to me. It describes a "Sehnsuchtsort", a place I'd love to be but at the same time it's obviously not desireable to be there. I once read a short story about a traincar stuck in a time loop on its way to hell and it's got exacty that kind of vibe. Similar is true for "White Room" by Cream.

by Anonymousreply 83December 29, 2023 9:55 AM

R71 I think you're right. I have always felt that ambiguity and the lure when it comes to the song.

by Anonymousreply 84December 29, 2023 10:24 AM

It’s a great song. The problem is it’s overplayed.

by Anonymousreply 85December 29, 2023 3:17 PM

Perhaps the beast was The Howling Man

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by Anonymousreply 86December 29, 2023 3:19 PM

WAY overplayed song.

by Anonymousreply 87December 29, 2023 3:28 PM

They were singing about Bank of America.

by Anonymousreply 88December 29, 2023 4:48 PM

Never said I was, R81.

Yes, R83/84, ambiguity and a longing, in a way, of wanting to go anyway and see for yourself.

by Anonymousreply 89December 30, 2023 3:07 AM
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