Harvard President Claudine Gay accused of plagiarism

Going through someone's doctoral dissertation from 25+ years ago looking for possible plagarism is the spiteful academic's version of scrolling through a new celebrity's pre-fame tweets to find something problematic.

The reporting last week that detailed the plagiarism with excerpts from Dr. Gay's work and the original work, was devastating. How can Harvard allow her now, years later to "update her dissertation correcting these instances of inadequate citation." It is blatant plagiarism, not an oversight. A word changed here or there, quite on purpose and then almost entire paragraphs ripped off. She is a FRAUD.

Good. She unjustly had black Harvard economist Roland Fryer suspended over bogus sexual harassment accusations — she didn’t like the results of his study on police brutality — no evidence in racial bias when it comes to lethal use of force. Black suspects are not more likely to be shot than white suspects after the numbers are all crunched.

Well, Karma is a bitch!

fraud

Look at the excerpts in the blue boxes. It's plagiarism.

It's spiteful as hell what they are doing to her (and we all know who "they" are) but she is unfortunately compromised and has now been exposed. She will be fired before the week ends. Which is a shame. But it is hard to argue with facts.

If she is not dealt with severely every Harvard student or professor who has been disciplined for the same unethical behavior should file a class action lawsuit.

Here

SHAMELESS CHEATING CUNT.

There is a frau in my field who did the same thing. Now she just makes classes on the internet and bullies any other academic adjacent person that tries to interact with her. She will generally post ??? and then say that it’s the commenters fault for not saying what she wants to hear

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[quote] Going through someone's doctoral dissertation from 25+ years ago looking for possible plagiarism

Multiple examples of her plagiarism keep popping up. This author says her Gay lifted the whole foundation for her book, as well as whole paragraphs without citation.

Harvard has an “honor code” and students have been expelled for such transgressions.

Sheesh. Egg on face, Harvard.

Can we go through Michelle Obama’s Princeton next? It’s a mass of hundreds of spelling and punctuation errors.

Obama did not study for a PhD and write a PhD dissertation at Princeton. Undergrad theses are often sloppy. Sadly.

You could see in that hearing before the Congress that she wasn’t very bright to put it mildly. I blame her masters, who brought her to the position.

Especially in those days, when manuscripts were typewritten, and correcting a spelling or punctuation error was a major ordeal.

[quote] Harvard has an “honor code”

Don't talk to us about old dead white men stuff.

Also at R11 the author Swain says scholars move ahead based on the number of citations they get, so Gay not attributing lines to her, Gay is holding her back.

Original scholarship is the #1 criterion for her job. Evidence shows her work is not original. Unfortunate, but true.

It's spiteful as hell what they are doing to her (and we all know who they are) ...But it is hard to argue with facts.

Exactly who the fuck is they? Jews or whites? And then you go onto say they are right. Are you retarded?

R20 ?

Who's that queen news anchor at R11?

[quote] Exactly who the fuck is they? Jews or whites? And then you go onto say they are right. Are you retarded?

You finnal ax if them playas be like jews or whites the next time you lecture at the Harvard hood

They = conservatives. But so what, if they are right about her. She invites it by being disingenuous.

R22 Don't know but his hair is something else!

She should be fired and replaced with a competent person.

It’s obvious she was an affirmative action admission to Harvard who couldn’t hack the work without cheating.

Sashay away, Gay

Is she a trans woman of color?

R29- She look LESBO to me

R27 Affirmative Action works but sometimes they get it wrong by going after a specific gender or race to meet quotas to demonstrate how inclusive they are which can end up excluding better candidates like a man of color.

This is happening everywhere, men being put on boards specifically for women’s rights or sports etc and like this case the opposite.

Or it can exlude a better candidate that can be a white man R31. Or Asian man.

I know you Americans have this difficult historical burden towards blacks and all, but I believe the Affirmative action to be one of the stupidest interventions.

Imagine if you had affirmative action to bring more Asians in basketball teams.

She looks like Arthur Ashe.

The NewsNation Queen is Leland Vittert.

[quote] She looks like Arthur Ashe.

With late stage AIDS.

She’ll be gone by January.

She needs to get on up outta there.

Performative DEI hire.

[quote] Harvard has an “honor code”

That’s why they took $2.5M from felon Charles Kushner and gave admission to Charles’ son Jared. Jared had lackluster high school grades, but that was no problem to Harvard. . Jared flew down to visit his father in prison every weekend while attending Harvard. He drove a Range Rover on company’s and read business magazines, but fellow students never saw him crack open a textbook.

That’s the Harvard Honor Code.

[quote] Range Rover on company’s

Yikes I typed Range Rover on campus.

* Black ✔️

* Female ✔️

* Lesbo ✔️

* Entitled ✔️

*Critical race theorist ✔️

* Perpetual victim- You bethcha!!!!

The Harvard College Honor Code

Members of the Harvard College community commit themselves to producing academic work of integrity – that is, work that adheres to the scholarly and intellectual standards of accurate attribution of sources, appropriate collection and use of data, and transparent acknowledgement of the contribution of others to their ideas, discoveries, interpretations, and conclusions. Cheating on exams or problem sets, plagiarizing or misrepresenting the ideas or language of someone else as one’s own, falsifying data, or any other instance of academic dishonesty violates the standards of our community, as well as the standards of the wider world of learning and affairs.

B..b..b...b.bbuu...but...She's Black! ^^^ Those rules no longer apply R43.

She looks like Spike Lee’s cousin.

They let her slide on the testimony stuff to look like a principled institution.

Harvard already knew all of these allegations well ahead of time and will use this issue to dump her.

Well played.

It's ironic that Gay is called out as a plagiarism by a black female (former) professor, Carol Swain.

Can't cry racism now, bitch.

^ plagiarist

Swain more or less accuses Gay of "stolen valor", in an academic sense. The Pittsburgh prof who was also ripped off is appalled by Gay's chutzpah.

Harvard should throw a couple million at Gay and make her decide on her own to resign to save her own face, without official sanction. She will never get corporate board appointments, and has crashed her gravy train. Boo hoo hoo.

As exquisite as the Bankman-Frieds, so evidently qualified to teach ethics and law. Our elites, everyone!

After Gay is gone, the next to go us that MIT president.

That would never happen, R39.

This is Christopher Rufo, the same fascist who runs DeSantis’s school takeover policy.

I hate her for being a Hamas stooge, but Rufo and co are overplaying their hand and this will backfire.

Harvard is hiring WoC?!

Hey man, what's so bad about a little plagiarism pony soldier ?

Melania plagiarized her speech from Rick Astley, and she got to keep her job!

A prominent professor has called for the immediate sacking of Harvard University president Claudine Gay to steer the school “back towards sanity” after she allegedly plagiarized other academics’ work 40 times.

Political science professor Dr. Carol Swain, formerly of Vanderbilt University, claims Gay used sections of a book she published in 1993 and an article published in 1997 without crediting her.

“Fire Claudine Gay posthaste,” Swain posted Thursday on X, as part of a post titled “some free unsolicited advice for Harvard University.”

“She can be relieved of duties until the terms are negotiated.

“Hire the best man or woman who can steer the university back towards sanity.”

𝑺𝒉𝒆 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒕𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑰𝒗𝒚 𝑳𝒆𝒂𝒈𝒖𝒆 𝒄𝒐𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒈𝒆 𝒊𝒕 𝒏𝒆𝒆𝒅𝒔 𝒕𝒐 𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒑 “𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑴𝒂𝒓𝒙𝒊𝒔𝒕 𝒊𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒑𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒔 𝒎𝒐𝒃,” saying it “should not be a consideration,” in their decision making processes.

Harvard University did not respond to a request for comment.

Ok R58, this woman sounds reasonable, but why do they accuse poor Marx for identity politics. He was the true leftist, the one whose theory was about class struggle and exploitation, he gave no shit about race, ethnicity, religion transsexualism. These bastards hijacked him.

[quote] but why do they accuse poor Marx for identity politics. These bastards hijacked him.

And he was a lousy game show contestant

I really don't care one way or another, but her glasses are ghetto.

And she's not lesbian, since she's married to a Christopher.

[quote]She will never get corporate board appointments, and has crashed her gravy train. Boo hoo hoo.

She'll blame institutional racism.

[quote]Exactly who the fuck is they? Jews or whites? And then you go onto say they are right. Are you retarded?

I will answer your question. It's the Jews. A wealthy Jewish alumni is the singular person driving this whole scandal. His name is Bill Ackman. He didn't like her comments in front of Congress and he has been going after her ever since.

What is unfortunate is that he now has the ammunition he needs in order to get rid of her.

I thought she was a lesbian, and she is married to a white man so I am taking away some oppression points.

^ LOL

If her kids look white we will need to deduct pretty much all of those points!

If one of her kids is Trans then you can add back all the points.

Extra points if the trans kids converted to Islam.

Her adopted Southeast Asian kid is trans = how many points?

If she plagiarized any part of her academic and professional writing, she should lose her position immediately.

Dis-moi, est-ce qu'elle parle bien le français ?

Say what, R71?

Or, as I always say, "Dis-moi, est-ce qu'elle parle bien le français."

R64 is quite the Hitler, isn't she?

They are very afraid to fire her. First African American female president of Harvard. She will go for millions..... Even though it is warranted.

A distinguished career and a staunch character will get her through this.

Nothing to worry about, Boston forgives.

That, r75, and I'll bet her bibliography was still longer than the dissertation itself.

[quote] She will never get corporate board appointments,

I bet she will surprise you. There are always places like the Tides, Ford, or the Open Society Foundations; Planned Parenthood, or the ACLU

Not if she is shit canned for plagiarism.

Imagine every Harvard studen from now on: "Well, plagiarized.and nothing happened to her. Why are you punishing me for doing the same?"

^ student...President Gay plagiarized...

Her bibliography will probably be plagiarized as well.

??? do you mean her biography?

Hmm, why is a congressional committee getting involved in this? Surely this is an internal Harvard matter?

Read Bill Ackman’s Wiki and try telling me this guy isn’t a bona fide piece of shit.

Douche

At this point, I don’t see why Harvard is protecting her. They need to write a big check and make her go away,

Has Harvard opened an investigation regarding the plagiarism claims?

They had about the earlier allegations, but not a new one since the newer allegations emerged.

The only reason she still has her job is because she's White.

Pride and shame.

Pride: the dirty and cheap tactics used to attack Gay are experienced as an insult and outside invasion. And they are. What has this got to do with anyone but Harvard's VIPs? The problem is, the revelations are true.

Shame: The sometimes inescapable hypocrisy and dishonesty of DEI is laid bare and many have their dirty hands in this pie.

No fancy people like to be told their shit stinks.

Dr. Gay should resign and then ask Oprah for reparations.

” His public frustration seems like a state of cognitive dissonance: The hedge fund founder who built much of his reputation on using aggressive public announcements to boost the value of his investments simply couldn't influence that institution in the ways that made him famous. The investor who donated several tens of millions of dollars to Harvard, failed to translate this investment into an impact.”

“ Ackman even realized that money does not always buy influence or a seat at the table with the decision-makers, and that Harvard's reputation would lose much more if it succumbed to the pressure that one man was trying to exert.”

Has DL fave Roxane Gay weighed in?

She's baking for the holidays, R95 and thus too exhausted to respond.

Besides, Claudine is Roxanne's first cousin.

It's not Roxane's JOB to EDUCATE you on why her cousin is beyond reproach.

I wondered what became of Raj from "What's Happening!!"

I should think she would want to resign at this point.

^ if only to avoid more dirt coming out about her plagiarism and other offenses.

[quote']^ if only to avoid more dirt coming out about her plagiarism

And out of her FILTHY PUSSY!

I wish someone could dig up Stefanik's college papers and run them through plagiarism software.

I can guarantee we'd witness a copy-and-paste bonanza.

The lack of vetting here is pretty nuts.

Just like you can't believe someone on the Republican Party didn't dig up one or a few of George Santos's gazillion crimes before he was nominated.

Gay was appointed in July 2023 by a zillion-dollar board including Penny Pritzker. Could no one from HARVARD have run her publications through plagiarism software?

I know Grammarly ($19/month) has offered basic plagiarism checking for much longer than that.

R83 Concerned, the hearing before the Congress was about anti semtic hate speech and harassment on campuses, not about plagiarism.

from The Gray Lady this morning

"The lack of vetting here is pretty nuts."

They weren't checking her academic credentials or integrity. She is a Black woman. Therefore, she gets an immediate pass.

I agree with the students—President Gay must stand firm. Higher ed should not bow to partisan political attacks. Penn should be ashamed. Stand firm President Gay.

So stand firm as a cheat? ^^^^^^

m'kay!

She stole from a black woman! Fire her now!

R104, according to the OP:

[quote] On Wednesday, the congressional committee currently investigating Harvard sent a letter to the university demanding all its documentation and communications related to the allegations.

I'm not sure why the committee needs this info? It does not relate to the controversy over Harvard's policy on allegations of hate speech on campus.

Search committees need to perform better due diligence on candidates' academic work.

Imagine being the committee that have to read through her boring work.

The McWhorter column is excellent. Basically, her academic work was too weak to be President of Harvard. Written no books and wrote 11 articles ..and gets to be President.

Correction R113, "gets to be BLACK President".

I hate it when the NYTimes doesn't open comments on controversial pieces. The Washington Post is much better in this regard.

Help I accidentally hit ignore and can’t see my own posts

We can't either! ^^^^

Fixed it.

Welcome back r118

The NYTimes didn't open comments on this, either

[quote]She stole from a black woman! Fire her now!

Black on black crime isn’t something progressives talk about.

R121 👍

The Boston Globe comments seem to support her ouster.

As someone wrote, "Two things can be true; the president of Harvard needs to go and Stefanik is an unprincipled twerp."

The NYT editorial by the black professor is a masterwork of below the radar, razor-sharp snarky cuntery. It's a devastating takedown.

OP- She's also been accused of NO fashion sense ( those glasses are HIDEOUS)

These kinds of things are where fellow Dems scream racism the loudest and won’t listen to facts or in this case, Black academics, who want her gone.

Update: The NYTimes finally opened comments on this:

I wrote two dissertations (different PhDs) and am not convinced everyone on either committee read all of them. I would hardly expect a hiring committee to vet dissertations in making a hire—unless someone drew them to their attention. Given the secrecy now in most places around senior administration (presidents, provosts, and deans), faculty and students are rarely aware of the identity of the candidate(s) until the hire is announced—part of the growing disparity between business practices and scholarly dialogue. Hell, Ithaca College hired as president an individual who not only had never been on a faculty, but who had pled no lo contendere to a sex offense. The groupthink of such “star chamber” approaches contributes to the decline of academic standards.

She’s avocado toast!

The Thiefoncé of universities.

Dey axxed me if I want to resign!

Hell no! I says. In ma' own words........

And I am tellin' you I'm not goin'

There's no way I can ever go

The clock is ticking.

In OP's pic, there appears to be a hair growing out of the mole on her chin.

Axe her.

Axe her a question?

R133 . . .

The Ivy League really isn't what it used to be. Its prestige has really been tarnished in the past several years.

[quote]The McWhorter column is excellent. Basically, her academic work was too weak to be President of Harvard. Written no books and wrote 11 articles ..and gets to be President.

Affirmative Action baby!

White men are held to the highest and strictest standards but others can just slide right through.

Not Asian men either r138….unless they put on a ratty wig and a whore’s dress

[quote] Has DL fave Roxane Gay weighed in?

Yes, at 500 lbs.

So many dumb fucking idiots in this thread, including but not limited to r138.

To me, it is reasonable that a former dean of A&S of the university would be promoted to university president. However, I could agree that her resume is fairly lacking to have been selected as dean in the first place. On the other hand, I don't think a quota for publications exists for the spot of university president.

More bluntly: the skills required for being a successful academic / intellectual are VASTLY DIFFERENT than those for being a successful president / steward (of any organization).

Princeton's president has 5 publications, but perhaps you give them more weight because they are books and because of his work as a law clerk. Stanford's former president (a white male) actually DID commit research misconduct and still held the role for more than 6 years and was hired even though he had even LESS publications than Gay. The current interim president of stanford (again a white male) once again has less scholarly publications than Gay.

So is there really some standard for university presidents that Gay has violated? Potentially, but I don't think such a standard involves publications or quality of research. Should Gay not be president because she is a DEl hire? Maybe, but considering other university presidents who were not DEl hires have made comparable mistakes and have received comparable allegations regarding their research, I find that hard to believe.

To me, it seems like there just aren't a lot of good reasons to support the narrative that DEI hiring is why Harvard has a poor president. Occam's razor would suggest that presidents of all backgrounds can be poor and research misconduct is common amongst all participants of academia. So do you really disagree with the most plausible explanation, or do you just want to blame the myth of DEl hiring for all your problems?

R141 you don't have to compensate for Gay ' s short academic record by boring DL readers to death

R142, sorry you have a low IQ.

Sorry you're a blowhard.

Girls! Girls!

You're BOTH awful.

^ hur durrr, do you wipe back to front too? You type like a retard. If you can’t reply with anything relevant or useful, go back to the counter at your Forever21 job and improve your customer service skills. Since reading anything more than 150 characters long is clearly difficult for you.

And adding to r141: I think the fake scandal being manufactured is because the real scandal is sort of one of those borderline cases. Bad enough to lose the job as President of Harvard? Sure. Bad enough to lose a tenured position? Debatable.

Harvard has a particular case of turning a bit of a blind eye to cases like this. Larry Tribe (White male) and Doris Kearns Goodwin (White female) are all cases of plagiarism where from my re-read of the stories the individuals didn't get booted.

You're missing the point. When the donations dry up - and it appears, at year-end when wealthy alumni are disposed to write tax-deductible checks to Harvard, that it is drying up - she'll be gone. Len Blavatnick, an HBS grad, gave HU something like $270 million. He said he's not donating. I'm guessing Harvard's Development Office people aren't having a very merry Christmas this year.

I'm guessing Gay will tough it out as long as she can but I don't see her staying there for long.

Here ya go, Claudine . . .

Doris Kearns Goodwin was a professor where? Hmmmm?

She was long gone from Harvard before her plagiarism scandal.

[Quote] Going through someone's doctoral dissertation from 25+ years ago looking for possible plagarism is the spiteful academic's version of scrolling through a new celebrity's pre-fame tweets to find something problematic.

she's racist bitch and a fraud

Mike “Morning Joe” Barnicle was fired from The Boston Globe when it was discovered he had been plagiarizing in his column for years.

Was he plagiarizing or just making shit up, R153? IIRC, one of the suspect stories was about a nurse who smoked - you would too if you saw what she did was the gist of the story - and worked at Children's Hospital, except there was no such nurse when they asked for his source .

It's not why he got shit-canned, though. A couple of years before he was fired, the GLOBE was looking to prune the employee ranks and offered buyouts. Barnicle qualified and took his (for millions - the first thing he did for his first retirement was to buy a big BMW), something they never expected he'd do. The readers complained so much that they had to hire him back at a higher salary but there was a target on his back from that day onward - he'd beat them at their own game and they were looking for a way to get rid of him such that he couldn't come back. And he gave 'em one.

R154 . . .

Try this one.

Joe dropped out of the 1988 Presidential race due to plagiarizing.

r141 is the fucking idiot.

Political Science professor Dr. Carol Swain whom Claudine Gay allegedly copied calls for her to be fired.

The term "DUPLACATIVE LANGUAGE" is such a micro aggression

I'll bet there was much rejoicing when she was appointed, " See how diverse we are? See how we acknowledge female empowerment? Not only do we have a woman as president, but a Black woman!"

[quote]“For all her professional accomplishments, even more impressive are Claudine’s personal qualities — her quality and clarity of mind, her broad curiosity about fields beyond her own, her integrity and fair-mindedness, and her dedication to creating opportunities for others. She will be a great Harvard president in no small part because she is such a good person,” said Pritzker.

Yeah R160 that Orwellian doublespeak stuck in my craw, as well.

[quote]You're missing the point. When the donations dry up - and it appears, at year-end when wealthy alumni are disposed to write tax-deductible checks to Harvard, that it is drying up - she'll be gone.

That's a sad commentary on university priorities. Harvard has an endowment of something like $50+ billion. Yale and Princeton are like $40 billion. They pay top dollar for investment managers and are basically hedge funds now, with educational operations.

I'm a grad of two Ivies and I don't give to either one of them b/c -- honestly -- they don't need my money. They're rich. I give to the local animal shelter and the local homeless shelter, etc.. They NEED my money, and it makes a difference.

I am not familiar with this colored lesbian! However I think she has striking eyeglass frames!

Billionaire Len Blavatnik has joined the list of donors withdrawing their support from Harvard University amid the Ivy League institution's recent struggles with antisemitism.

You guys keep giving examples of people fired for doing the same thing Claudine did, but that is completely beside the point. They were all white men. It's just not the same.

@ 165

What does 'decisive steps' mean? Firing Gay? Do they have a list of demands?

[quote]More than 1,600 Harvard alumni that month vowed to withhold donations from their alma mater until the university took decisive steps against antisemitism.

Surprise!

VP Harris never walked back her support for Jussie. It's simply not done.

R155/R156 Thank you.

Us lying Blacks gotta stick together Claudine.

She straight up looted Carol Swain's book.

The best part of the NY Time editorial is the last sentence in this paragraph.

[quote]After the congressional hearing this month where Dr. Gay made comments about genocide and antisemitism that she later apologized for, and now in the aftermath of the plagiarism allegations, some of her supporters and others have argued that the university should not dismiss Dr. Gay, because doing so would be to give in to a “mob.” However, one person’s mob is another person’s gradually emerging consensus among reasonable people.

[Quote]You guys keep giving examples of people fired for doing the same thing Claudine

Joe Biden, Bob Caslen and Mike Barnicle were not fired.

[quote]Joe Biden

Your slip is showing

Joe withdrew from the 1988 presidential race after admitting to plagiarism and exaggeration of his academic record. R175

R174, How is demanding one’s resignation not a firing?

(^.^)Legal implications for resignation and dismissal differ. Employers must follow certain legal requirements when dismissing employees. Employees who are dismissed may be entitled to compensation and legal rights.

[QUOTE]Imagine if you had affirmative action to bring more Asians in basketball teams.

Nobody's commented about this dog whistle yet?

A white man would've been shitcanned over the anti semitism in two minutes.

I can't believe her plagiarism wasn't caught many years ago. She didn't just plagiarize one tiny little paragraph, she plagiarized TONS, in multiple pieces of writing.

In a threatening legal letter to The Post in late October, the college called allegations that she lifted other academics’ work “demonstrably false,” and said all her works were “cited and properly credited.”

[quote]Imagine if you had affirmative action to bring more Asians in basketball teams.

Yao Ming might have something to say, as might Jeremy Lin, Jordan Clarkson, Rui Hachimura, Yuta Watanabe, Omri Casspi, etc.

Well look at the bright side. Everybody was so sick of white men getting away with anything and now they aren't!

Has Spike Lee commented?

Sharpton Slams Hedge Fund Billionaire Who Attacks Harvard President Claudine Gay As DEI Hire

r183 they all made it on ability, not to fill a quota.

Has Roxane commented?

Ackman is definitely a primo piece of shit and I know he doesn't really care about plagiarism and his sole goal was to take her down one way or another, but the problem is, there's real, documented transgressions here. She made it easy for herself to be taken down. She's hardly the first person, even the first high level person at a university to plagiarize, but that's a terrible defense. She's the fucking president of Harvard.

Anyone wa t to take bets how long it will be until Gay resigns or is fired?

Will Julia Roberts play her in the inevitable movie?

[quote] Harvard cleared Claudine Gay of plagiarism BEFORE investigating her

What's wrong with that?

She looks like ET’s mother

If Asian, Jewish and trans-men could get on football and basketball teams through affirmative action, no one would watch (unless to laugh). Somethings are still based on ability/talent.

"Bitch stole my look."

-- Spike Lee

"Harvard University is morally bankrupt"

The Reverend Al Tawana Brawley Sharpton best keep his lying trap shut.

That piece of shit The New York Post has been quite sharp on this story.

She'll be gone by January 1.

She'll never have to worry about facing repercussions about or the loss of her job there because of any such charges, she can be certain of that.

Is Claudine gay?

Is she is allowed to continue as a professor I wouldn't take a class with her. Appalling lack of integrity.

You know, I'm sure plenty of professors have cheated in their research and publications. But nobody has it typed on their foreheads. When you get caught, the game is up. That's just the way it is.

Harvard’s student handbook also lays out the criteria for plagiarism, stating that quotations “must be placed properly within quotation marks and must be cited fully.”

“Students who, for whatever reason, submit work either not their own or without clear attribution to its sources will be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including requirement to withdraw from the College,” the student handbook says.

New York Magazine

That's not in the POC student handbook.

"My research papers were hacked! I'm sure I never typed those stolen lines."

-- Professor Gay, taking a page from Joy Reid, Harvard '91.

I question Gay’s leadership ability only in that (1) she didn’t have the political savvy to recognize that she was being set up by Stefanik and (2) instead of having the critical capacity to understand the harmful implications of her response to a trick question, she resorted to a legal definition of harassment — most likely following the recommendations of her attorneys. For these reasons, I believe she is unqualified to lead a university and wouldn’t be sorry to see her step down. But the scariest part of this is that nobody seems to recognize a far more nefarious threat, i.e. Stefanik herself who is an ardent supporter of Donald Trump. The irony of course is that Trump (and his legion of ass-licking protégées) gave his blessing to the rabid antisemites who marched on Charlottesville, and now has no hesitation quoting Hitler. Instead of being gaslighted by congressional sideshows like stump the Ivy university presidents, take the time to research Stefanik’s voting record and call her out.

instead of having the c̵r̵i̵t̵i̵c̵a̵l̵ ̵ 𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒂𝒍 capacity to understand the ̵h̵a̵r̵m̵f̵u̵l̵ ̵ 𝒆𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍 implications of her response to t̵r̵i̵c̵k̵ ̵ , 𝒂 𝒔𝒊𝒎𝒑𝒍𝒆 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒘𝒂𝒓𝒅 question she resorted to a̵ ̵l̵e̵g̵a̵l̵ ̵d̵e̵f̵i̵n̵i̵t̵i̵o̵n̵ ̵o̵f̵ ̵h̵a̵r̵a̵s̵s̵m̵e̵n̵t̵ ̵ 𝒆𝒗𝒂𝒔𝒊𝒗𝒆 𝒅𝒐𝒖𝒃𝒍𝒆𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐝 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐨𝐨 𝐬𝐭𝐮𝐩𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐧𝐨𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐞

R206 Clear examples of Gay's plagiarism go back to the 1990s when she was a student. Her lack of qualification has nothing to do with Trump or Stefanik.

All that elite schooling and yet nobody taught that nice girl Claudine how to write a research paper. Racist to the core, despite their good intentions, they must have assumed a black girl wasn't interested or capable. Shame on those schools!

The longer this goes on the more Harvard's reputation is damaged and the more the reputations of the people keeping Gay in place are damaged.

But when your reputation is ruined all you have left is your pride, so they'll all cling on like a persistent dangleberry.

PS we all know Jada Pinkett Smith is getting the rights to the movie don't we?

Isn't the Harvard Corporation EXTREMELY pissed at Claudine right now. Seeing as she has lied through her teeth about her academic integrity. She's made fools of everyone.

Has anyone gone through Elise Stefanik‘s college work? Is she squeaky clean?

You are pathetic R212.

R213 It's a valid question. If it's good for one, it's surely good for another?

Another recent race in argument with the finest educators n the land

Chicago Teachers Union President Stacy Davis Gates reportedly now sends one of her three children to a private high school in Chicago. Should this be surprising?

Nope. Union bosses have always been able to secure alternatives to their neighborhood schools for their own children – either by using their clout to gain access to magnet or selective enrollment schools or by using their big union salaries to send their kids to private schools. This was the case with former CTU President Jesse Sharkey and former CTU executive and lobbyist and now-Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.

CTU leaders are not unique, though. While nationally 11% of all parents enroll their school-age children in private schools, for public-school teachers it’s 20% – or almost twice the average. In large cities, the percentages are far greater. In Chicago, at least 39% of public-school teachers send their students to private school. What does it say when nearly 4 out of 10 Chicago public school teachers will pay money so their children don’t have to attend a public school in the district in which they teach? It says, loud and clear, that a large percentage of public-school teachers are giving public education a failing grade and they understandably want better for their children.

So why would they deny that choice to low-income families?

This isn’t a criticism of the decision to send a child to an alternative school. Parents must seek what’s best for their children. What’s offensive is teachers union leaders denying better educational choices for parents who, unlike Davis Gates, have neither the resources nor the connections to find better alternatives for their children to the failing and often unsafe neighborhood public school. Davis Gates and the CTU have been adamant opposers of Illinois’ Invest in Kids scholarship program, which provides 9,600 students access to a private school that best fits their unique needs. They have been fighting to let it sunset at the end of 2023.

Even worse, 𝒖𝒏𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒅𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒔𝒖𝒄𝒉 𝒂𝒔 𝑫𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒔 𝑮𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒔𝒖𝒑𝒑𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒓𝒆𝒍𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒍𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒍𝒚 𝒂𝒕𝒕𝒂𝒄𝒌 𝒔𝒄𝒉𝒐𝒐𝒍 𝒄𝒉𝒐𝒊𝒄𝒆 𝒂𝒅𝒗𝒐𝒄𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒔, 𝒄𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎 𝒇𝒂𝒔𝒄𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒓𝒂𝒄𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒔. Recall her latest comments in South Side Weekly, where she warned of fascism encroaching in Chicago and the marginalization of public education, particularly for Black individuals. This stance is clearly aimed at supporters of school choice including supporters of public charter schools.

Is Davis Gates really equating parents seeking an education for their kids outside of traditional public schools with dictators seeking autocratic control? That’s offensive. Plus, if she really believes that, what does that make her?

[quote]Has anyone gone through Elise Stefanik‘s college work? Is she squeaky clean?

It's not a valid question.

Stefanik is an elected official and part of her job is to hold appointed figures to account. Which she did very, very effectively. Yes Stefanik is a hypocrite with her support for Trump. But Stefanik embarrassing Gay doesn't make Gay less culpable for her own failings, however you want to spin it.

Rashida Tlaib is a fucking racist piece of shit - if she was on a committee and humiliated a MAGA clown who was totally unfit for his or her job then the focus shouldn't be "But what about Tlaib!".

Maybe your ultra partisan "I WILL DEFEND BY SIDE AT ANY COST" approach is a response to the MAGA crowd, but you're just the same.

Off topic, shit stain.

My shit stain was directed at R215.

R216 I disagree. I think it's right to investigate Gay for plagiarism and take appropriate action against her if she's broken any rules. But I also think it's appropriate to take action against Stefanik if she, too, has broken rules.

Elected officials should definitely be held to account. She sits there barking questions and immediately following them up with "it's yes or no!", yet, as a politician, she will never give a yes or no answer, in fact she won't answer the question at all.

If we agree we want transparency then it has to apply to all, otherwise why bother?

If I could get Stefanik on the stand, I would ask:

You voted against the Equality Act in 2021. Don't you think American citizens deserve equality? It's a yes or no answer.

In 2022 you endorsed Carl Paladino in the primary for New York's 23rd congressional district. In the past Carl Paladino has made homophobic comments. Let me quote one for you: "I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family, and I don't want them brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option." Do you think that's appropriate thing to say? Yes or no?

I could go on...

Absolutely, if Stefanik has broken rules then throw the book at her.

But if your response to the Gay scandal is to instinctively say "BUT WHAT ABOUT STEFANIK" then you're part of the problem.

I already said I'm happy for the book to be thrown at Gay. It just annoyed me to see Stefanik sitting there like butter wouldn't melt when she's shit herself, as I show in R220.

She's black and she's gay, 2 strikes against her. Oh, and a liar.

Kate Turabian must be spinning in her grave!

R223, she's married to a white dude. She must like the BWC.

R222 but but but. Just stop it. An illiterate personcan be elected to Congress. But being president of Harvard is a bit different, isn't it.

R212, R214 Elise Stefanik is an evil bitch even if her academic record is completely clean and she is not the president of Harvard if it is not. It wouldn't be relevant in this case. I wouldn't mind seeing her embarrassed though.

R212, Not from the waist down.

R227 Yep - I just wish the people could hold them to account in the same way. Politicians work for the people, yet how often can ordinary people question them in the same way they question people like Claudine Gay? Same for that cunt Josh Hawley. They remain unaccountable and don't answer questions despite being (in the main) utterly contemptible.

Then you get assholes like R226 defending them.

I highlighted two shitty things she's done recently - but there are no answers to my questions because we don't get to ask them.

@ 229

Well presumably their constituents could ask them at town halls and community fora, etc. Should those exchanges get picked up by a national news organization or go viral on social media, you'd get to see it. But as federal elected officials, they have a national soapbox. For the most part, the best we little people can do is to try to keep our OWN elected officials honest -- and let others worry about theirs.

[quote][R227] Yep - I just wish the people could hold them to account in the same way. Politicians work for the people, yet how often can ordinary people question them in the same way they question people like Claudine Gay? Same for that cunt Josh Hawley. They remain unaccountable and don't answer questions despite being (in the main) utterly contemptible. Then you get assholes like [R226] defending them. I highlighted two shitty things she's done recently - but there are no answers to my questions because we don't get to ask them.

Me: Donald Trump is totally unfit to be President

You: BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS!

Has she resigned yet?

I don't think she'll resign until after Christmas.

R231 No I agree Donald Trump is unfit to be President. Though it's ironic you're accusing me of deflecting when you're doing the very same thing. :-)

People won't address my points about Stefanik because they know I'm right.

No R234 - people aren't addressing your points about Stefanik because they're wholly irrelevant to whether Claudine Gay is appropriate to the President of Harvard.

Stefanik asked 3 university presidents some questions about the safety of Jewish students and the culture of anti Jewish racism in those institutions. The 3 women gave answers which were roundly condemned. All 3 then apologised. One resigned. Claudine Gay's history of plagiarism was then put under scrutiny. That's where we are.

Crying BUT WHATABOUT! isn't of interest to anyone watching the situation at Harvard.

Claudine Gay is responsible for her own actions.

R235 Nope, you were holding Stefanik up as some amazing person then I showed she's as bad as the people she's criticising.

I mean, she supported a homophobic candidate and wouldn't vote in favour of the Equality Act. That's pretty relevant to most people on this site, apart from Republican assholes like you.

R181 In NYT comments, someone wrote that her plagiarism was known for years, but Dems wouldn’t call her on it. No idea if this person was correct.

[quote][R235] Nope, you were holding Stefanik up as some amazing person then I showed she's as bad as the people she's criticising.

No I wasn't.

However awful Stefanik is as a person and a politician has nothing to do with the scrutiny that Claudine Gay is under. Nothing. Get over it, have a nice Christmas.

R238 Yes you were. It's all excuses from idiots like you.

She's allowed to steal and plagiarize. It's considered Reparations.

Why is Obama sticking his nose in this?

Oh, wait . . .

[quote]If Asian, Jewish and trans-men could get on football and basketball teams through affirmative action, no one would watch (unless to laugh). Somethings are still based on ability/talent.

For some races they are.

Aren't elections the way to hold politicians accountable, r229?

R243 Well yes, but there are several years between elections, so it would be silly if that were the only time.

Stefanik isn't an academic, r212. Her job isn't to produce original academic research and to progress up the academic career ladder on the basis of said original research. Claudine Gay does owe her position and her career to supposedly having produced original academic research of a high standard, however. It doesn't say much for the reputation of Harvard, supposedly the world's best university, if its head is an academic fraud.

Gay also won a CV-boosting prize at Harvard for the best PhD dissertation in political science. She was feted with prizes and awards for what appears to be a fraudulent dissertation. Perhaps the other political science doctoral graduates of 1997 who missed out on the prize might feel that they were cheated. It's also embarrassing for Harvard that none of her dissertation examiners picked up on her plagiarism.

"It's also embarrassing for Harvard that none of her dissertation examiners picked up on her plagiarism."

They probably did, but y'know.....

One of the plagiarism issues is the presence of a table taken without any changes or attribution from the work of one of her PhD advisors, Steve Voss. He said he knew nothing about its inclusion in one of her papers until shown it by the press. Yet he thinks it’s no big deal and he defended her last week.

Why? She’s his most famous student, that’s why. I wonder if he still thinks that now.

This is really lose/lose for Harvard. Fire her and you've fired the first black female President and cowed to wealthy donors. Keep her and she's damaged goods because of plagarism. My solution is to have her resign and go back to her previous job as dean. Of course, then they'd have to find another black female to become President!

Yo! It's lahke mah 15 year old aunt LaQueshia always say, she say ya got ta copy n' paste!

They could get a different variety of POC so as not be so obvious about DEI. A "Pat" POC - you don't really see the POC - would be great. I'm gong to suggest a Middle Eastern (Arab) Christian woman, not Muslim or Jew. Or an out, gay Hindu man. An American Arab woman married to an American Jewish Woman. Or the reverse. What about a black jew from North or Eastern Africa?

[quote]My solution is to have her resign and go back to her previous job as dean

My solution would be to have her resign and leave the university for good. What embarrassment she has brought on the institution.

Can’t Radcliffe find a spot for her?

The whole problem, throughout government and academia, stems from no one ever being punished or held accountable. The universal response is always the same. They feign ignorance rather than concede their rank venality.

That really is what has brought us here. They would rather us see them as incompetent than to admit they are corrupt.

There is no more Radcliffe, R252. It was folded into Harvard years ago. The remnants were rolled into something called the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study, presumably so they didn't have to return any money donated to Radcliffe before 1999 when it was still legally separate.

We on Balkans only choose puppies and kitten on bases of color and sex. You Americans really are backwards.

[quote] I mean, she supported a homophobic candidate and wouldn't vote in favour of the Equality Act. That's pretty relevant to most people on this site, apart from Republican assholes like you.

Is the fact that two things can be true at once, too high concept for you?

Stefanik is awful AND Claudine Gay is a plagiarist and should reassign.

R229 - the other poster isn't defending Stefanik. Who is an asshole. He is challenging you on your whataboutism. It's pure witch hunting. Well, Stefanik tackled somebody for our side so we can go after her. Sure. But that's not holding to account, it's digging for bones. And that's the point he was making, that you can't see. It's fine to go on the attack if you want, but don't tart it up like it's anything but spite. What if Amy Klobuchar or Kamala Harris had held Gay to account? Then I suspect you'd be content. This is one of those rare occasions where you the person doing the heavy lifting is not on our side. That's not a basis to discount the pursuit of accountability that was made. It just stings a little. I'm sympathetic to that. I wish it had been somebody from the right side, but it wasn't.

Perhaps she can find success on Tik Toc and Cameo!

Kamala Harris should use this to her advantage by highlighting how she became Vice-President without needing to attend any Ivy League schools.

R259 Spreading her legs helped too....

Kimberly Guilfoyle spread her legs and look where her B- or C List law degree got her.

^University of San Francisco Law is in C- territory. Imagine the. Bad grades and LSAT scores, Kimberly.

Biden isn’t an Ivy Leaguer either — Syracuse University law school.

How vulgar, all around. NOK.

Gay also attended Phillips Exeter Academy. She has enjoyed one of the most elite educations possible in American life.

[quote]Perhaps she can find success on Tik Toc and Cameo!

Perhaps she can find success on the third fryer from the left.

As I satired in R209, we are supposed to believe that Phillips Exeter Academy, Princeton , Stanford and Harvard failed to teach Claudine Gay how to write a proper research paper. This is because they are racist institutions who overlooked a black young lady. It's obviously their fault because Prof. Claudine Gay swears that, to best of her knowledge and instruction, her academic writing is impeccable. It therefore must be a plot by others because Gay would never cheat or lie. Her ignorance is the woeful result of systemic intergenerational racism and discrimination.

Nobody is safe from Institutional Racism. Even the President of Harvard was a victim!

R257 And going through Gay's thesis from 25 years ago to check for plagiarism isn't "digging for bones" as you put it?

Come on, you can do better than that.

Part of the point is that the president of Harvard should be held to a higher standard than the run-of-the-mill academic.

Whatabout, whatabout, whatabout, R269. Academics are scrutinized for fast ones all the time. She knows that.

I don't have to do better. She does.

Phillips Academy was all male until 1973.

She copied being a boy.

Is she Trans???

"The longer this goes on the more Harvard's reputation is damaged and the more the reputations of the people keeping Gay in place are damaged. "

I agree she should be gone ASAP, but I really don't think Harvard will suffer some huge reputational damage. Harvard, for better or worse, is culturally and academically iconic. This blip isn't going to torpedo Harvard. Will undergrad, grad, or professional students, en masse, suddenly not want to pursue a degree from Harvard because it has no value? I don't think so.

R271 You need to do a lot better if you think banning discussion of certain topics by labelling it "whataboutism" on a friggin' DISCUSSION board is a valid stance.

The McWhorter NYT opinion piece was good. He didn't dismiss diversity and inclusion - even saying - "if Harvard wants to pursue another black female for president, I'd have no problem, there's some good candidates out there - but Claudine Gay has to go."

R276, I see you've given up trying to defend your whatabouts and go on the attack against me. This isn't a discussion it's you hiding in your hypocritical bubble. It's all OK so long as its the side of the angels. Bullshit. Console yourself with the notion you've won the debate because I'm done wasting my time on you. You're a hypocrite. As bad as any Republican.

BTW, that's not a direct quote from the McWhorter article, just a paraphrase.

Better cite it properly, R279, lest you commit plagiarism on DL.

[quote]Better cite it properly, [R279], lest you commit plagiarism on DL.

It'll just be another Gay doing it.

She's the Winona Ryder of academia, thieving articles in broad daylight.

Except 1) the public likes Winona 2) Winona didn't deny it 3) Winona had a second act (Claudine will not) and 4) Winona is gorgeous.

"Is she Trans???"

If it gets me outta this shit, hell yes!

R42- The best/funniest part of your post is

YOU BETCHA!

r284! 😂😂😂!

[quote] I really don't think Harvard will suffer some huge reputational damage. Harvard, for better or worse, is culturally and academically iconic.

And rather fascistic

[Quote] I really don't think Harvard will suffer some huge reputational damage. Harvard, for better or worse, is culturally and academically iconic.

🙋‍♀️The New York Post reports that students cite concerns about experiencing antisemitism on campus and that a Harvard degree could limit their appeal to future employers.

🙋‍♂️The school reported a 17% drop in early applications this year, despite an acceptance increase from 7.6% to 8.7%.

A lot of colleges will close in the next 10 or 20 years given higher costs and fewer students.

I expect Harvard will be there long after Ms Stefanik is gone...

Fire the bitch!

Harvard hired the same firm that represented Matt Lauer and the Sacklers to squelch the story.

Secretive corporation.

Yes, there will be many more generations of Harvard graduates, like Elise Stefanik herself.

Just because she's Gay.

A song for Miss Gay.

She could get a job as a daytime television judge. The new ones all seem to be black women.

But she has no legal training. She's just a plagiarism fraud.

"She's just a plagiarism fraud." One step up from a prostitution whore!

Fire this fraud!

Black Fraudey!

She is soooo ugly.

....

They're afraid of the backlash from the progressives. I mean, if Obama intervened to defend her, that's some serious backing she's got. It may be wrongly decided, but who's got the stones to go against Obama? You watch - they'll drag out Oprah next.

𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐧𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐟𝐫𝐚𝐮𝐝

Harvard University president Claudine Gay, who has come under fire over accusations of plagiarism and antisemitism, is now seeing her work further scrutinized after it was revealed two professors questioned a data method she used in a 2001 Stanford paper that often resulted in “logical inconsistencies” — and she refused to share her research with them.

The 2001 study, titled “The Effect of Black Congressional Representation on Political Participation,” was one of four peer-reviewed articles that helped land Gay tenure at Stanford University, but its merit could not be properly reviewed by everyone, according to a post on the Dossier by Christopher Brunet.

In 2002, Michael C. Herron, the Remsen 1943 professor of quantitative social science at Dartmouth, and Kenneth W. Shotts, the David S. and Ann M. Barlow professor of political economy at Stanford Graduate School of Business, claimed to debunk the very foundation of Gay’s research.

At a conference of the Society for Political Methodology (PolMeth) that year, Herron and Shotts presented their research, finding inconsistencies in Gay’s paper where she concluded that the election of black Americans to Congress negatively affects white political involvement and rarely increases political engagement among black people.

News flash - she full of shite.

[Quote] My solution is to have her resign and go back to her previous job as dean.

Where she can continue her work erasing unsightly Harvard notables.

Progressives and "woke" folks aside, plagiarism really is the perfect reason to get rid of her. In the NYT McWhorter article, in which he advocated firing her, he even said that her plagiarism wasn't even of the most severe variety - passing off ideas as her own. He described it as simply "messy" in terms of citation. In one example, he said that she wrote in an article that "the authors reached this conclusion" indicating that it wasn't her idea, but then didn't have a proper citation. But, all of those relatively benign "messes" add up. It's still plagiarism and as president of a preeminent academic institution, it's perfect grounds for firing.

I can't believe the lack of due diligence and checking sources in reviewing her papers. This wasn't just an isolated paragraph in one paper, there are numerous cases of plagiarism in multiple papers. WTF were these people doing, missing all of this years ago?

And of course if couldn't have just been Gay, it had to have happened with multiple people.

They're really out to get her. I'm surprised they're not complaining she never paid a library fine from seventh grade.

R308 No one missed anything. She ticked all the right boxes. End of story. So what's a little plagiarism?

You wanted DEI and affirmative action, well there it is.

Note how Harvard is digging in its heels, It is ideology that counts. Ideology over everything.

Hey, it coulda been worse, they coulda hired a white male!

She’s the first black President of Harvard and a woman. She might have to kill someone to get fired.

I don't think it will be that tough. They can always hire another POC woman or a Black man.

arrogant entitled cunt!

[quote] she wrote in an article that "the authors reached this conclusion" indicating that it wasn't her idea, but then didn't have a proper citation.

My eighth grade English teacher wouldn't have put up with that shit.

You're perfectly right to be so bitter, r313. How dare she take that job when it was clearly rightfully yours.

nor was the job rightfully hers R315

She needs to go.

God, the Ivy League isn't what it used to be.

They have to give her due process. There has to be honest investigation and validation of all the dozens of accusations. Harvard was sweeping it under the rug and rubber-stamping it AOK to make it go away but that won't do. If she had any integrity she would resign rather than waiting for this but she won't resign. She's going to shake the money tree.

Someone will pay her to teach somewhere given her name and even because of the controversy. And/or she can go on the lecture circuit and either talk to a certain crowd about lessons learned and/or she can do more grievance-oriented speaking and appeal to a crowd that want to see her as a victim. She could even write an autobiography about her travails that would probably see little burst of sales before it fades away. But she strikes me as not wanting to give up highly prestigious academia, though I'm really not sure how she can just be out there every day among administrators and professors, even students, who haven't plagiarized and whom she's supposed to represent.

Apparently she's going to Asia in March for some conference.

Honestly, I don't hate Claudine Gay or think she's some completely terrible person. But, it's so obvious she has go.

What I hate, R319, is the corruption around her failure. The defence of her is so without merit and cowardly. But, it's 2023 and she's DEI.

If a white guy had done this he would've been shitcanned in two minutes.

Claudine Gay is no Ruth Simmons.

It appears that not only is she a plagiarism, but that she also makes up the data in her research.

^plagiarist

It's obvious Harvard needs to ask her to resign. But this is still a massive distraction. Why is Congress investigating "anti-semitism" on college campuses? How many victims are there to warrant this?

Have they fired this fug yet?

racist, antisemitic, arrogant, entitled, stupid lying cunt! Can't Harvard do better?

A friend has a tenured Jewish friend at Syracuse and she has become very uncomfortable. But her feelings don't matter because she ticks no boxes as a white straight woman who's a Jew.

Now it turns out when Claudine was asked to provide sources for one of her papers she refused. Somebody also pointed out she only had 11 papers when somebody in her position should have had that many alone when she completely finished school. But if these things are pointed out you're a misogynist and a racist. In other words if you're a woman of color and lie, express hate and cheat in any manner whatsoever you're a candidate for beatification. The Harvard board couldn't run a pre-K day care center.

R328 Wall street has made such a mess in creating identity politics in their intent to hijack the left.

Obama defending her. He still have something to hide?

Hey y'all. I'm Black and I write stuff! Give me the job!

[quote]God, the Ivy League isn't what it used to be.

Of course it’s not. All the standards have been dumbed down to incredibly low levels to accommodate all the DEI admissions.

R331, Gorman is a God awful poet (or slam poet).

She has no boobs!

This is never going away and the level of scrutiny will increase for her going forward so she should resign before more bad press makes it impossible for her to get hired in the future.

^^^ Au contraire R336, she's going to call waycism on this if she's forced to resign. She's a gold medallist in the victim olympics, how else did she get the Harvard position.

That bubble's pretty much burst, r337.

Where will Claudine be spending New Year’s Eve?

𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐒𝐡𝐚𝐦𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐇𝐚𝐫𝐯𝐚𝐫𝐝

A prestigious Austrian university has severed ties with Harvard in the latest blow to the university over its response to the Israel-Hamas war and the rise of anti-Semitism on campus.

Lauder Business School in Vienna announced the bombshell decision to pull its partnership with the Ivy League as a show of 'solidarity with the Jewish student community at Harvard.'

Founded by Jewish billionaire Ronald Lauder, 79, who is the heir to the Estée Lauder cosmetics empire, the school announced it would be 'forming new partnerships that are more closely aligned with our core values and standards.'

It's the latest in a series of hits to Harvard, which reportedly lost a staggering $1 billion in donations thanks to Gay's 'failures', according to billionaire alumni Bill Ackman, who campaigned for her removal.

Nobody knows if Obama currently supports Gay. Obama SUPPORTED gay in the initial brouhaha over the Congressional Testimony and at that time only 2 instances of questionable academic writing. Which Harvard had downplayed, at that time, and said were "not plagiarism". This is a fast moving story. That was all WEEKS AGO.

It's a Jussie situation, writ large. Everyone jumped to support and defend Jussie and then drip drip drip the truth came out. Almost none of his VIP black supporters walked anything back. It's simply not done.

Meanwhile, the day the press reported Jussie's fabricated crime, everyone with an ounce of sense knew it didn't pass the smell test.

[quote] Somebody also pointed out she only had 11 papers [bold]when somebody in her position should have had that many alone when she completely finished school.[/bold]

That's just flat-out wrong.

Obama supported Gay for saying that calls for the genocide of Jews is not inappropriate”depending on context”? Seriously? Why didn’t he just stay out of it altogether?

Disappointed with his call on this one, but he's still Obama.

Because Obama is a Muslim-sympathizer.

I’m getting really really tired of this thread

Then move the fuck on.

Listen to me! She’s ugly! I hate seeing her pic on the latest feed because you’re so fucking staunch you keep bumping it!

Amazing that anti-semitism can be tolerated to the highest levels, but so much as look at a Black person and you're cancelled.

We all know there is a lot of hatred of Jews in the black community, which is odd since Jews supported the civil rights movement.

The greatest story of unrequited love in American political life may be the relationship between blacks and Jews.

"Obama defending her. He still have something to hide?"

I wonder when exactly he urged the Board to stand by her. After the BS congressional hearings, I could see. But after the wave of plagiarism examples would be stupid.

I think - understandably - both Obamas in their lives before the White House experienced enough prejudice and racism that in their hearts they stand much more with black Americans than all Americans. It makes me a little sad, because we've got to bridge the gap somehow, but that's my take. And I get that's where they come from, that's what they lived and while I can say I get that, I didn't experience it.

Just to flesh out R354, what I'm trying to say is I thought Obama was smarter than to take a stand that seems so tribal in this matter. It surprised and disappointed me from a leadership and influence position, but it made me think that perhaps his experience was as difficult and scarring as any other black person's.

Diversity, Equity and Inclusion sounds very idyllic and definitely something to strive for. As to the actual practice on campuses, some feel it’s very intolerant, and part of the reasons Jewish people don’t rank on the worthiness scale.

Poor Obama, he was so oppressed, got scholarship for Harvard law school where they gave him the position of president of Harvard law review, became a senator at 35 yo and became the president of the US before his 50th birtday. He was reelected in spite of his greatest achievement being giving billions of tax dollars to the banks and sending drones in Middle east. Now he is an influential multi millionaire who is spared of examination of the alleged war crimes he has enabled in seven wars he was leading as president.

He was even given a Peace Nobel prize in advance.

What a victim with difficult and scarring life R355.

Completely

Unqualified

Nefarious

Trickster

People obviously plotted her academic career. It's not like she became the President of Harvard on her own blind ambition. And those people didn't do the appropriate vetting and looked the other way. But why? Even if they wanted a POC, or a woman POC specifically, or a Black woman even more specifically, there really are administrators/academics out there with a better academic profiles (more published articles and books), administrative experience, and no plagiarism issues. So why Claudine Gay?

I guess she's going to hang on to her position right to the bitter end. Just keep showing up everyday like George Costanza.

The black professor Gay stole from, Carole Swan, would have made a better candidate for Harvard President.

However, she is not woke and is a black conservative. Not the right kind of black for Harvard.

^Swain

I saw Shug Avery last night and she sure had something to say about Claudine.

She sure is ugly!

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.

Finally, some insightful and balanced commentary, compared to the mountain of garbage on this thread.

^ Interesting that none of the authors from Gay allegedly plagiarized agree that she in fact plagiarized.

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At President Gay’s request, the Fellows promptly initiated an independent review by distinguished political scientists and conducted a review of her published work,” they wrote.

“On December 9, the Fellows reviewed the results, which revealed a few instances of inadequate citation,” they added. “While the analysis found no violation of Harvard’s standards for research misconduct, President Gay is proactively requesting four corrections in two articles to insert citations and quotation marks that were omitted from the original publications.”

***

In an interview Monday night, Voss — who said he taught Gay methods at Harvard while he was a teaching fellow and she was a student — said the work was “technically plagiarism,” but described it as “minor-to-inconsequential.”

Voss, now an associate professor at the University of Kentucky, said he was unbothered by her use of his words because it was a technical description of a quantitative method, the scope of the description was “fairly limited,” and he felt she may have picked up research practices from her instructors.

He added that similar descriptions of technical methods are common throughout academia.

“This doesn’t at all look sneaky,” Voss said. “It looks like maybe she just didn’t have a sense of what we normally tell students they’re supposed to do and not do.”

***

Rufo and Brunet also focused on Gay’s dissertation, writing that the paper “lifts an entire paragraph nearly verbatim” from a paper by Lawrence D. Bobo and Franklin D. Gilliam Jr. as well as other scholars without using quotation marks. They also alleged that Gay plagiarized political scientist Carol M. Swain and Harvard professor Gary King, who was Gay’s dissertation adviser.

They pointed to sections of Gay’s dissertation where she referenced the work of other scholars with nearly identical wording to the original papers, including a citation of the authors but not direct quotes.

In one passage, Gay describes Bobo and Gilliam’s findings using almost their exact language, replacing references to “blacks” with “African-Americans.” She attributes the findings to both scholars by name but only directly quotes the phrase “high black-empowerment.”

But Bobo, King, and Gilliam all said they did not feel Gay plagiarized their work.

In an emailed statement, King — who holds Harvard’s highest faculty rank as a University Professor — called the claims “false and absurd” and “crazy.”

Bobo, the dean of Social Science at Harvard, wrote that he is “unconcerned about these claims as our work was explicitly acknowledged.”

When asked about the passage concerning Bobo and Gilliam, King wrote that the essence of plagiarism is passing someone else’s work off as original, which he added was not the case here.

“Is there any sense in which you can’t tell that she is describing Bobo and Gilliam’s article and not her own work in the passage you sent?” King asked.

Gilliam, now the chancellor of the University of North Carolina at Greensboro, wrote in an email late Tuesday that “I, too, do not believe it is plagiarism.”

***

“In my opinion this excerpt in no way constitutes any resemblance to plagiarism,” Schwartz wrote. “The text merely presents well founded facts about the Low Income Housing Tax Credit.”

Owens wrote that Gay’s adoption of “such short phrases” did not amount to “taking credit for another’s writing or ideas.”

“This is particularly the case when the phrases in question are a brief description of how someone aggregates a variable and a summary observation about a specific technical point,” Owens wrote.

“Something that gives me pause, and that I have encountered a handful of times, are entire paragraphs or multi-sentence footnotes that are presented as an author’s independent conclusion or analysis,” she added. “This does not strike me as the situation with my paper with professor Matthew Freedman.”

R366 That piece is already out of date (“Updated: Wednesday, December 13” with minor more recent notations). It contains a statement by Carol Swain BEFORE she read other works by Gay and roundly denounced her stealing concepts as well as passages without attribution. Now leftie sources even cite 40 instances of plagiarism.

Judging by the fact she started her long academic career as an undergrad winning an award for an “original” paper, people have to wonder where that concept came from as well.

When you go against the establishment narrative they will find a way to smear you.

[quote] When you go against the establishment narrative they will find a way to smear you.

Her problematic plagiarism was being examined BEFORE her poor testimony. But keep not looking into the facts so you can feel goodly.

R368, I was about to make a similar comment. On 13 December, Harvard was still trying to defend Gay and so of course they would publish something that cleared her of plagiarism. Since 13 December there have been further, more serious accusations of plagiarism and suspicious use of data. That Harvard Crimson article even had to add two corrections on 19 December, which shows that the authors of the article r366 describes as "insightful and balanced commentary" didn't even do basic fact-checking:

[quote]Correction: December 19, 2023

[quote]A previous version of this article incorrectly stated that George Reid Andrews, David Covin, and the current editors of Origins did not respond to requests for comment Monday. In fact, Andrews, Covin, and the current editors of Origins did not immedaiately respond to requests for comment Tuesday morning.

[quote]Correction: December 19, 2023

[quote]A previous version of this article incorrectly stated that the 1993 iteration of Origins, a historical magazine, was a joint collaboration between the Ohio State University and Miami University. In fact, in 1993, Origins was printed by Brock Publishing International Inc. in Ontario.

Even if you accept the argument of the abovementioned Harvard Crimson article, that article itself shows too many occasions when Gay was slapdash, didn't bother to check her sources thoroughly and lacked the requisite academic rigour. It seems to be a pattern with her, not a rare error.

The fact that Obama accused his own grandmother, who have raised him and loved him the most, as he stated, of being racist because she had fear of strange black men, tells me all I need to know about his character. Later he retracted and called her the typical white person.

And imagine what prejudice this woman must have suffered in the middle class white environment, in early 60s, when her vivacious daughter, abandoned by her black lover, brought the black child and then went on to live with another man, The typical person might have chased away his mother with the child at that time (as his father did), not taken him and raised him to become the president of US. And he said that she made him cringe. He might be achiever, but he really is petty, bitter and hateful person.

A lot happened since r366's Harvard Crimson article was published. A more recent Harvard Crimson article writes:

[quote]Harvard threatened to sue the New York Post for defamation over accusations of plagiarism against President Claudine Gay in October, calling the claims “demonstrably false.” Then, the University’s own review found several instances of “duplicative language” in Gay’s work.

[quote]Now, the University is under fire for allegedly attempting to suppress claims of inadequate citation it later found were, at least in part, credible.

Can't wait for the movie, "I, Claudine."

There's a new article (and opinion piece, to be upfront) in the Washington Post showing some examples of her plagiarism. One example is pretty bad.

R367 Gilliam and Bobo are black. Steve Voss and Gary King are white and Gay is their most successful student.

None are inclined to rock the boat - there's no upside in it for them.

Lots of Blacks with chips on their shoulders at being raised by White mothers, White grandparents or relatives.

They never seem to take issue at their Black feckless, family abandoning fathers.

"Finally, some insightful and balanced commentary, compared to the mountain of garbage on this thread."

With just a dash of anti-semitism from her supporters.

[quote]It's obvious Harvard needs to ask her to resign. But this is still a massive distraction.

A massive distraction? It what sense?

[quote]Why is Congress investigating "anti-semitism" on college campuses? How many victims are there to warrant this?

If there was blatant racism on college campuses against black students, and investigations regarding it, would you be asking "How many victims are there to warrant this?" And do you think Dems would remain silent?

R368, ah Carol Swaine - the insane black religious conservative and professor who once claimed that Christians’ speech is being stifled in America, and who was apparently fired from Vandy U for basically stalking gay students. That same Swaine?

^ I’m sure Swaine’s statements aren't politically motivated and are valid and sound, pertaining solely to Miss Gay’s plagiarism.

Oh wait…

R370, is that why rightwing scumbag Chris Rufo literally admitted on X that this entire scandal was manufactured by the right?

Haha, how does it feel to be such a useful idiot?

For the record, I'm not a fan of the way Gay has handled many things, but let’s clear one thing up. Many posts upthread insinuate that, had Stefanik’s question and Gay’s response been swapped with "black people", that Gay would have been fired within hours of the hearing.

This is false because this scenario literally happened. Why is no one mentioning this? Before Gay was asked about Jewish people, the first question she was asked was:

ELISE STEFANIK: Dr. Gay, a Harvard student calling for the mass murder of African Americans is not protected free speech at Harvard, correct?

CLAUDINE GAY: Our commitment to free speech -

ELISE STEFANIK: That's a yes or no question. Is that correct? Is that Ok for students to call for the mass murder of African Americans at Harvard? Is that protected free speech?

CLAUDINE GAY: Our commitment to free speech -

ELISE STEFANIK: It's a yes or no question. Let me ask you this. You are president of Harvard, so I assume you're familiar with the term intifada, correct?

CLAUDINE GAY: I've heard that term, yes.

The testimony went on from there... but this whole discussion literally began with a hypothetical of someone calling for mass murder of BLACK people, and Gay defended free speech there first... before the discussion about Jewish people happened.

"They never seem to take issue at their Black feckless, family abandoning fathers."

We actually always do, but we keep it among ourselves.

[quote]is that why rightwing scumbag Chris Rufo literally admitted on X that this entire scandal was manufactured by the right?

You don't know how to read do you?

Rufo said nothing about a "manufactured scandal". The concerns about Gray are real. Her plagiarism is real.

NYT: "Carol Swain a political scientist who retired from Vanderbilt University in 2017, said that she was “livid,” both at Dr. Gay’s use of her work and Harvard’s defense of her."

That was not manufactured by Chris Rufo.

Rufo did his job in getting story noticed.

R340, nobody has ever heard of this "prestigious" Austrian University. Harvard must tremble in fear.

It's a joke, and a Daily Mail headline to boot.

R386, just try Googling something other than porn for once. Or do you enjoy looking like an ignorant dick?

No 44 in Austria, Nr. 7462 in the world, R387. Acceptance rate 44%.

As I said, Harvard trembles in awe and fear.

Newly founded. Harvard's been around how long? The Lauders also founded a school at UPenn. The point is, it's not the nothing you trumpeted like a dildo. I hate people like you. So loud. So rushed. You contribute nothing but distraction.

Where's Hitler??

R383 don't be stupid. Gay was playing coy with questions about anti black hatred because she new it was a trap connected with her enabling of antisemitism on campus. Besides, she couldn't deny that there was no free speech on Harvard and students have been denied admission for sharing memes that were consider to offend blacks, even if they did it at 16 yo.

[quote]Where's Hitler??

We don't have Hitler yet, but Joe McCarthy has shown up in post R382

R383, what do you reckon Gay's response would have been if she'd been asked about white students enunciating the N-word?

She would say they should be expelled. God damn hypocrite.

It's only natural that Black people would be anti-semitic. They can't bear to see other groups that have been victimised, succeed. Same reason for the high proportion of Black on Asian crime.

Blacks will always blame others for their own situation. Seeing other marginalised people not accept their lot in life but instead work/study hard without waving the race card, holds a mirror up to just how entitled Black 'folks' are.

[quote] Disappointed with his call on this one, but he's still Obama.

If you mean a guy who looks good in a $4000 tux, yeah. If you mean an empty suit, definitely.

Claudine Gay Made a Career of Attacking Black Scholars. Don't Defend Her for Being Black | Opinion

No one in good faith should defend President Gay because she is the first Black president of Harvard. Even if you don't agree with me that our racial struggle is in our past, someone who has targeted Black male professors has waived any benefit of the "first Black" defense.

Author: W. F. Twyman, Jr., Class of 1986 Harvard Law School, is a former law professor. He is also co-author of Letters in Black and White: A New Correspondence on Race in America published by Pitchstone Publishing.

Spicy, R397.

Why are they hanging on to this loser? Surely there's another unqualified black woman they can find to replace her.

[quote] Surely there's another unqualified black woman they can find to replace her.

Tanned, rested, and ready

R399 . . .

"Madea's College Presidency" would probably be a hilarious film.

Stick a fork in her: she's done. According to Ruth Marcus in the WaPo, Gay plagiarized the ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS appearing in one of her articles.

Sorry. That's lazy.

If they keep her as the President of Harvard that's fine by me. She's can be the poster girl for what's going on at elite colleges today.

Oprah looks great at r400!

Oooh, that is GOOD, r403

[quote] Oprah looks great at [R400]!

No thanks to weight watchers but thanks for the endorsement deal anyway suckers

She has to go. The eminently reasonable Ruth Marcus describes the evolution of her thinking, which mirrors mine.

[quote]She plagiarized her acknowledgments. I take no joy in saying this, but Harvard President Claudine Gay ought to resign. Her track record is unbefitting the president of the country’s premier university. Remaining on the job would send a bad signal to students about the gravity of her conduct.

[quote]This was not my original instinct. I thought, and continue to believe, that Gay’s accusers and their allies were motivated more by conservative ideology and the desire to score points against the most elite of institutions than by any commitment to academic rigor. This was, and is, accompanied by no small dose of racism and the conviction that a Black woman couldn’t possibly be qualified to lead Harvard.

[quote]In addition, the initial reports of plagiarism seemed small-bore. Gay’s missteps did not seem to involve sweeping appropriations of carefully crafted words or thoughtful ideas but a failure to put mostly boilerplate language inside quotation marks .... And yet. The instances of problematic citation in the work of Gay, a political scientist, have become too many to ignore.

I wonder if Harvard has kicked any student out for plagiarism during her tenure? If she stays, why cant everyone plagiarize if it's acceptable?

“You might think Elise Stefanik is an unlikely standard-bearer for a crusade against antisemitism, given that she’s a repeat promoter of Great Replacement Theory, the antisemitic trope that Jews are bringing foreigners into America to undermine it. But if you bought Stefanik’s bullshit, you probably didn’t think that far. The college presidents did a rather clumsy job of saying, accurately but unconvincingly, that the answer depends on the context. Stefanik and every politician our loudmouth who wants you to hate and distrust college education and Palestinians pounced on it. And many of you fell for it. You — and I say this with love — absolute fucking dupes.

If you think the question “is calling for the genocide of a group against your policy” is an easy question with a one-word answer, you’re wrong. I understand you want the answer to be easy, but that’s not the same thing as it being easy.”

R391, you’re either full of shit or just plain retarded. Playing coy? Gay began her response — which she wasn’t able to complete because fat bitch Stefanik kept interrupting her — in EXACTLY the same manner as when asked about genocide against Jews.

“ her enabling of antisemitism on campus”. Horseshite. Amazing that in all these discussions re Gay’s testimony, no one has pointed out an actual example of calls at Harvard for genocide against Jews (on a campus that is already quite disproportionately Jewish). Which makes me think the real issue is that these universities haven't voiced their full throated support for the genocide of Palestinians.

But I’m sure people like you twist slogans like "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" and claim it implies genociding all Jews. It's a bizarre insane reach and intellectually dishonest. It has been used in pro-Palestinian rhetoric for decades, and only now has it been scrutinized by Zionists as somehow anti-Semitic. It’s extra hilarious when you consider that the founding charter of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party trolls literally states: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty!" But I’m sure being the typical American that’s been thoroughly brainwashed by pro-Israeli BS you didn’t know that lol.

The anti-semitism argument against Gay is about 3 weeks old now. She's going to be fired for her plagiarism. And should be.

^ Considering she was already cleared by an internal investigation on the matter, no, she won’t be.

Another useful idiot at r412.

Keep up, That was before 40 more examples had been found. She's a joke. When even the NYT and the WP call for you to resign, you're cooked.

Tell us more as to why you’re so invested in a president of a private organization needing to resign over alleged plagiarism taking place decades ago.

Is that a deflection? Can't argue the fact that the president of Harvard is a plagiarist and a liar? And don't pretend the president of the oldest and most elite college in America is some obscure position.

Any Harvard or ex-Harvard student recently punished for plagiarism should sue the school for a double standard.

Well, the organization isn't exactly Indiana Tool and Dye, is it?

[quote] Great Replacement Theory, the antisemitic trope that Jews are bringing foreigners into America to undermine it.

Jews? As far as I can see the person most responsible claims to be Catholic.

How do you solve a problem like Claudine?

[quote]Tell us more as to why you’re so invested in a president of a private organization needing to resign over alleged plagiarism taking place decades ago.

Because SHE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE MOST ELITE UNIVERSITY IN THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT.

you mean what was the most elite . . . R422

East coast "Progressives" are doing it to themselves. No need for MAGAts to destroy them and their institutions.

Not as bad as Claudine Longet accused of murder.

[quote] Can't argue the fact that the president of Harvard is a plagiarist and a liar? And don't pretend the president of the oldest and most elite college in America is some obscure position.

Everything just comes down to the questions exactly as you've framed them, Representative Stefanik.

And of course only yes or no answers to your questions will be allowed, because that is always how intellectual discourse regarding geopolitical matters works.

I can't respect Oprah with that hair @ R400

It's just silly. So unnatural.

I just talked to a friend whose father is on the Harvard Corporation Board.

He said that what's going to happen is that the Corporation will continue to support Gay, but within a few months the faculty will basically inform the Corporation that Gay must go. And she will.

But it won't happen for at least a while so that it doesn't seem as though Stefanik was directly responsible. No one wants that POS to feel she has power over Harvard, or anything else.

She will announce her resignation just before the new cast of DWTS is announced.

It's okay to acknowledge that it started as a witch hunt and there could have been racial and gender overtones, even when there were the first examples of relatively inconsequential plagiarism (which is still a terrible look). It's just one of those cases where even if it began with vile people who don't care about academic integrity, unfortunately it unearthed some things that can't be ignored and Gay should go. I don't see Gay remaining as president at this point as some sort of "stick it to the conservatives" win for progressives, women, black people.

[quote]But I’m sure people like you twist slogans like "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" and claim it implies genociding all Jews

Because it does you lying fuck.

It started over anti-semitism and the response by universities.

Oh, does it r431? Funny how you failed to address the fact that the charter of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party literally states: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty!"

I wonder why?

R430, and that is exactly why liberals and dems are viewed as enormous pushovers and “cucks” (I hate using that term, fyi). That you (assuming you aren’t a right-winger) are willing to toss her to the wolves over something like this (alleged plagiarism decades ago, of all things - not harassment, assault, sexism, racism, etc), which to anyone with a 1/4 brain can see is being brought completely in bad faith by people with unclean hands, exemplifies how the left / Dems continually fail to see the bigger (and much messier) strategic political agendas at play, losing control of the cultural war narratives in the process.

As mentioned, Chris Rufo did this hit job on Gay as a way to simultaneously foment distrust in DEI and associate the left with Hamas / terrorism, and you guys are eating this shit up left and right. It’s kinda pathetic.

Or you're pathetic.

Rufo: Conservatives need to create a strong association between Hamas, BLM, DSA, and academic "decolonization" in the public mind. Connect the dots, then attack, delegitimize, and discredit. Make the center-left disavow them. Make them political untouchables. 5:10 PM • Oct 13, 2023

Rufo: We launched the Claudine Gay plagiarism story from the Right. The next step is to smuggle it into the media apparatus of the Left, legitimizing the narrative to center-left actors who have the power to topple her. Then squeeze. Dec. 19

You can shoot the messenger and think they are total shits, but it doesn't change the fact there are 40+ instances of plagiarism in her work. Any student at Harvard would get thrown out for such transgressions. This isn't subjective. The woman is a liar and lazy plagiarist. Just because the accusations came from the right doesn't make them untrue. And everybody knows it.

If she didn't plagiarize and the accusations are meritless, then point to evidence that supports that. Which nobody has. If her record were clean, Rufo would have nothing to work with.

R431 In all fairness, it just implies to genociding all of the Jews in Israel. Most of those Jews being "brown" Jewish refugees from Muslim countries.

She'll get away with all her cheating, because "diversity".

What has Roxane said about all of this.

"What has Roxane said about all of this."

Does anyone want that cake?

She really asks?

She won't get away with it because the next students punished for plagiarism will sue. Or, Harvard can simply remove academic integrity from the student handbook.

Booger face

[QUOTE]Gay plagiarized the ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS appearing in one of her articles. Sorry. That's lazy.

So bizarre. As though she can't use her own voice to express admiration or gratitude for others' work and guidance so she had to rely on others for generous and kind words.

"she can't use her own voice to express admiration or gratitude for others' work and guidance"

Show me a Black person who has ever shown gratitude.

"She won't get away with it because the next students punished for plagiarism will sue."

I totally understand the hypocrisy if that happened, and it would seem to make sense, but for what exactly would they sue for? It's not the government, so it's not an equal protection claim.

Claudine Gay and Why Academic Honesty Matters

Politicization & lower standards jeopardize Harvard’s standing as a great research institution.

By Professor of History at Harvard, James Hankins

Claudine Gay, the president of my university, is under attack for academic dishonesty. She is charged with several instances of plagiarism, in her dissertation and other published work, in addition to data falsification. As of this writing it seems not unlikely that she may be fired or asked to resign.

It isn’t my intention to discuss the merits of the case. Whether Ms. Gay’s transgressions are fireable offenses would seem to depend on whether it can be proved that she intended to deceive other scholars and take credit for their work, and whether her scholarship drew conclusions based on consciously falsified data. Perhaps a charitable interpretation of her conduct exists.

What concerns me is that the public discussion so far hasn’t shown a sufficient appreciation of how serious academic honesty is in research institutions. Some of Ms. Gay’s supporters treat the allegations as trivial, dismissing them as the product of right-wing scandal-mongering. That is a historically uninformed view. Research universities, and the wider modern project of improving human life through research and scholarship, depend on academic honesty.

Consider how modern universities differed from their medieval predecessors. Medieval university teaching was built around collections of authorities in philosophy, medicine, law and theology. Lectures consisted of explaining the authorities, memorizing them and applying them to solve practical problems. Formal disputations tested students’ ability to make logical arguments based on mastery of the authorities. Peter Adamson, a historian of medieval philosophy, points to the contrast with modern attitudes in the title of his 2022 book, “Don’t Think for Yourself: Authority and Belief in Medieval Philosophy.” (1 of 2)

Students weren’t supposed to think for themselves because the authorities had proved their worth and deserved respect. They stood at the fountainhead of shared traditions. One showed mastery of a subject by treating the authorities with good judgment, resolving apparent conflicts between them, ranking them in order of reliability, and in exceptional cases—like that of St. Thomas Aquinas—synthesizing them into a larger vision.

Contrast this approach to knowledge with that of the modern research university. The model first emerged in the 17th century with such philosophers as René Descartes and Thomas Hobbes, whose method depended on radical doubt of all received authorities. The London-based Royal Society, ancestor of the research university, took as its motto Nullius in verba, “Don’t take anyone’s word for it.” Good method starts from empirical observation, not authority, and all hypotheses must remain open to doubt, criticism and revision. Francis Bacon, who inspired the creation of the society, called for natural philosophy, or science, to be reoriented toward “the relief of man’s estate.” The meaning of “fact” changed around this time. The old Latin word factum originally meant “something done.” In the new scientific communities of the early modern period it came to mean an empirical description of data that competent observers could accept. It followed that agreement about facts required the data on which they were based to be publicly available.

As science and scholarship developed, academics widely accepted that progress depended on being able to draw a line between the known and the unknown. Once the frontiers of knowledge had been identified, effort and resources could be directed where they were most needed. For the same reason—efficient use of resources—it was important that those in the field assign credit for discoveries made. A structure of incentives developed that rewarded researchers who contributed to knowledge. Sometimes rewards were offered in the form of simple monetary inducements, as when the British Parliament in 1714 offered a prize of up to £20,000 to anyone who could discover a method of finding longitude at sea. More often, however, the reward was employment and promotion within the academy. Fellowships, grants, and free time for research were assigned on the basis of the quality of an academic’s work. At the high end of achievement, an outstanding mind might be recognized with a Fields Medal or a Nobel Prize.

Since Harvard became a research university in the early 20th century, its presidents have upheld the standards of academic honesty necessary to advance the progressive enterprises of science and scholarship. Since World War II, the university has enjoyed great success and has been generally rated at or near the top of universities worldwide for the quality of its faculty and research. Those ratings are no longer as secure as they once were, despite the university’s matchless endowment, as peers in such countries as China have begun to advance in the sciences.

In appointing Ms. Gay, the Harvard Corp., the university’s governing board, seems to have shifted the institution’s priorities. It revealed those goals in its Dec. 12 statement, noting that Ms. Gay is the right leader “to address the very serious societal issues we are facing.” Harvard’s mission is no longer simply advancing knowledge, but knowledge “that will help address deep societal issues and promote constructive discourse.” From such a perspective, academic honesty seems to matter less than having the right progressive values, and the refusal to disclose underlying data is permissible so long as conclusions support a preferred narrative.

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Harvard is still among the world’s premier research universities. It still has a great deal to offer, and calls on the right for it to be taxed or regulated at the state level—by Massachusetts—are shortsighted. The university nevertheless needs a reset. It can’t continue down the path of political engagement, which undermines its true mission. If the university’s governing bodies continue to behave as though academic dishonesty isn’t of great concern, it can only damage our hard-won prestige, cheapen the value of our degrees and erode the standards necessary for academic excellence.

OMG R448-R450. There ain't no one on here gonna read that screed. A bit like Claudine's doctoral thesis.

[quote]Research universities, and the wider modern project of improving human life through research and scholarship, depend on academic honesty.

That's what this should be about. Not whether standards can be adjusted depending on who is the acceptable face of or in the moment.

R436 Are you still babbling on about Chris Rufo? Give it a rest.

[quote] Devaluing Of Ivy League Degree Continues

That was obvious when David (Muscles) Hogg who had even been rejected by UCLA got the red carpet treatment at Harvard

David Hogg, the student who helped launch the March For Our Lives movement, apparently can’t get into a UC school.

Hogg, originally from Los Angeles, was rejected by all four University of California schools he applied to for undergraduate admission. These included: UCLA, UCSD, UCSB and UC Irvine, reports TMZ.com.

r450 do you have a link? Just curious. I'm familiar with Hankins's book Virtue Politics.

R455 WSJ paywalled

R54, Hogg got into UC Irvine.

[quote]She really asks?

No, she axes.

Gay needs to be axed to resign.

Fuck off ^^

Asshole

R454 has it assbackwards…that shows the quality of the UC system.

So your friend's father is one of these individuals, r428? There's only five men, so it shouldn't be too difficult to work out who he is.

That sounds like a bit of a simplistic "solution", by the way. It doesn't address the serious accusations being levelled at Gay right now and will only allow the situation to fester.

R462 It sounds stubborn, oppositional and ridiculous to wait! Plus Stefanik went to Harvard.

“We the corporation shall keep a lying, cheating, stealing, data fabricating, under-qualified race-baiter as the figurehead for the most important academic institution in the world because no one tells us what to do. Not even a Harvard alumna.”

It's bullshit. They can't count on the faculty to object - a huge load of them backed her over her handling of the anti semitism problem. Meantime it drags on and they look impotent and useless.

"for the most important academic institution in the world.”

Take several seats R463.

[quote] Meantime it drags on and they look impotent and useless.

Summarizing woke tenured academia

R465 One of….. the hat was Harvard talking

Has she denied if? Who vetted her at Harvard? How did her dissertation advisor and committees not discover this?

So, you're measuring Harvard's success by the number of Noble Prize winners it has produced? M'kay.

"Has she denied if? Who vetted her at Harvard? How did her dissertation advisor and committees not discover this?"

They took one look at her skin tone and hired her on the spot.

She half-asses the denial. She maintains she holds herself to the highest academic integrity and ALSO says she needs to correct many of her papers. ROYAL CUNTESS!

She does sound like a total fucking cunt.

"They took one look at her skin tone and hired her on the spot."

There's more to it than that. She was "groomed" for the position, having been a dean and a professor at Harvard. They wouldn't have waved any black woman through that easily. She was a known entity and someone on the inside. Whenever The Corporation decided they wanted to make history with a Black woman pres, she was there for the taking. Even if they insisted on that route, there were better black woman candidates. Well, in theory - academics/administrators with far more published works and no stink of plagiarism - though I have no idea if Harvard looked at anyone else.

I dont feel sorry for her at all, but I do wonder what SHE actually wants to do. She may want to leave and get out of the spotlight. I wonder if she's being urged to stay in a heavy handed way.

Rumor has it she is refusing to resign and has dug her heels in.

WhyTF is everyone here still arguing about this Fugly liar? The story has already been rehashed like chewed cud, and yet people are still rehashing it every day like it's breaking news. MARY!

[Quote] She does sound like a total fucking cunt.

she's an entitled black woman who doesn't think her shit stinks

It's a very odd career path. Was Harvard such a nervous nelly they couldn't dare just do a search and hire a fully qualified academic from outside?

Brown had the first black president in the Ivy League. Ruth Simmons, and she was a straightforward success. She is also currently "senior advisor to the president of Harvard University." She must be appalled by this shit-show.

Every month Harvard continues to prop up Gay the institution will rot even more. Toxic fakers are, well, extremely toxic to an institution. I wonder if Gay is a sociopath or just a stone cold narcissist.

It's an open forum, R476. We can rehash and obsess as much as we see fit. You could jut leave if you're SOOO annoyed.

[quote] Brown had the first black president in the Ivy League

That sounds fair

Well Brown was founded with slave-trading money....

R476, see Golden Girls Part 234,579,854,356,890,963,121,246,789.

[quote] WhyTF is everyone here still arguing about this Fugly liar?

Perhaps because the story remains a work in progress and how it resolves itself will have much to say about America's "elite" intelligentsia .

Nobody reads let alone cite checks dissertations from the social sciences.

Her CV is a joke. She has published only 11 papers and no books, while only 7 of those articles are in peer-reviewed journals. This is a joke for any academic of her age, let alone one supposedly so distinguished. She has won no research funding awards or prizes for her published work and her only grants appear to be conference grants, which are available to everyone. Her only prizes were for her undergraduate thesis and PhD, and we know why she got those prizes and it was nothing to do with the quality of her (plagiarised) research. Her actual research, when she does any, appears to be more like journalese. It's startling that someone with such a poor research record was given tenure at Stanford (when she had even fewer publications) and a full titled professorship at Harvard.

She does, however, have long list of Service "achievements" which basically means networking and politicking.

To add to r486, that's from Gay's CV dated 2012, which - is what she herself links to on her Harvard profile page. This is her CV dated October 2022, which has barely a handful more entries on it. She has a book, but it's an edited volume with three co-editors (i.e. she did shit all). This is a pathetic research output for ten years, let alone her entire career.

But, but, she's a black woman! That just shows how progressive we are. How proud we all were when she was first appointed. " See, Harvard isn't just a bunch of white male racists!"

I wonder if her day feels very hollow now, as if she retains the position but has lost her authority. It can't be business as usual, surely.

What authority does the President of Harvard have?

[quote]She does, however, have long list of Service "achievements" which basically means networking and politicking.

That counts! Like it or not that has always been an effective means of working your way up the ladder.

[quote] I wonder if her day feels very hollow now

Not a bit. She is just angry so many jealous racist crackas and jews are picking on her for nothing. But at least she has Obama to comfort her.

She'll say it's all a smear campaign orchestrated by the right wingers and Jews.

I'm guessing her Yuletide isn't terribly gay this year.

[quote]How did her dissertation advisor and committees not discover this?

Because Black.

She should change her name to Claudine Trans to garner more woke points.

No one can say that she hasn't done her part to affect Harvard.

Harvard: DEI, SJW, SHIT.

Harvard you had a good run. Nothing lasts forever.

Who's the tranny in the OPs pic?

R500, we prefer to be referred to as " non-cisgendered," or " Gender-nonconforming."

Now it’s Haverford’s time to shine!

Naughty

Are there people who are into BBP, like the sluts that are BBC crazed?

Maybe they didn't give a damn about her academic record, they just sensed the smell of her BBP.

R503 that article is 7 days old.

And it's still pertinent, r505.

She's not only gone after white men she's going after successful black men. They are oppressors now as well. She needs to look in the mirror. An anti-semitic racist thief. She is bonkers.

In any other section of the US, she would have been bounced immediately upon the revelations. However, the eastern part of the US is the source of the SJW, cancel culture, DEI, and trans movements, so she is being tolerated and even supported.

I can't believe some of you claiming that there's some sort of direct correlation between David Hogg being admitted to Harvard and Claudine Gay's plagiarism scandal.

Some of you are just insane.

Some?

Claudine will you please stay off DL. We don't want you here you evil nut.

There is a direct connection, r509 - both those undeserved positions were the result of Harvard's attempt to "diversify", as a result of which standards and qualifications went out of the window.

How long is Harvard's double down going to last? What's the buzz among students and professors?

R513 When the numbers are tallied by tomorrow for year-end contributions received on or before December 31. If there was a fall-off, she's in trouble trouble. The faculty, at least pre-break and pre-some of the most recent allegations, supported her. Both Jews and Palestinians and their supporters on campus feel, quire reasonably, aggrieved. With the students gone for another week or two, there's no consensus because no-one's there. I suspect a lot of the silence from HU stems from that and the fact the Corporation hasn't come up with a response beyond their initial ones. No doubt Ackman and Rufo and Fox are delving into her past for more in an effort to advance the narrative their way: her departure.

Her resignation won't probably be decided (or if it is, announced) before a decent interval has passed, but the issue's coming to a head at Harvard as at most institutions: the donors now think they can decide policy and sometimes have. Here, they're dictating personnel, too. If so, the model's changed. Harvard's governance is both ancient and miraculous, the place having survived and thrived for almost four centuries without much in the way of professional management (and what pros they've had at HMC for investments haven't been that great) is proof.

Gay will have some PR cover for the next week or so as the names (and aliases) on the Epstein lists are released, distracting people from her issues.

Harvard accepts some young people who have done exceptional things, to make the campus more dynamic. Once you get into Harvard, you do not need to be brilliant to do well and graduate. This is because Harvard and all the high prestige, highly "selective" private schools also also accept a large number of young people for reasons other than sheer brilliance. Children of Alumni and faculty, children of big VIPs, children of people on their donor prospects, etc. Not to mention some clever jocks they need, who may not be brilliant but are clearly smart enough to play sports and get through their academic program.

Grade inflation is rampant throughout the Ivy Leagues and Seven Sisters, and all the little prestige liberal arts colleges. Hogg was a legitimate admit, for this kind of university. It's not the same as the meritocracy grand state universities.

David Hogg has done more for Harvard than Claudine Gay.

'the donors now think they can decide policy and sometimes have. Here, they're dictating personnel, too.'

Not they're not. Havard can do what it wants. But who would want to contribute enormous sums of money to an institution which they disagree with? Would you? You'd have to be an idiot.

Um—you’re helping to prove the point you just disagreed with…

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“President Gay may be a good person. She may even be a praiseworthy scholar, despite the allegations. But that isn’t enough to remain president. The leader of the world’s foremost university must be held to a higher standard, one that Gay has unfortunately failed,” the students wrote.

They are typically so self-impressed.

xox MIT, Oxford, Cambridge, Stanford, CalTech, ETH Zurich, Imperial College London, Berkeley, etc.

Hard to know who sucks more, her and her idiot plagiarism ...

or the evil billionaire Zionist cabal who opposes her and the freedom of the Harvard student body to oppose Zionist genocide of the Palestinians, to oppose mass slaughter.

I'm on the side of the lesser evil.

So you support the Zionist cabal? Why can't both be wrong?

[quote]or the evil billionaire Zionist cabal who opposes her and the freedom of the Harvard student body to oppose Zionist genocide of the Palestinians, to oppose mass slaughter.

lol this reads like a parody.

R519 how exactly? You're going to contribute to a political campaign when the person you once supported turns from democrat to republican?

What are you babbling on about?

What political campaign? The point was about donor influence over policy and operations of a private university.

How does your mind work? Honestly it's made of scrambled eggs. If you don't like the policies of an institution you don't contribute to it. It's as simple as that. Harvard can do exactly what it wants. The donor has no say over its policies. He just doesn't want to give it money which his right.

I think plagiarism is cool. I do it all the time. Ya'll mad cuz u bitches work too hard.

Exactly. How can you force anyone to donate money to you? Are you that stupid to believe that Jewish billionaires and corporation are going to give their billions to institution that enables anti semitic hatred?

Gay gives her work the citations it needed years ago only when she is caught out in public. This is what I call academic integrity. And Harvard knew all along what was going on. But Harvard was like we made a huge mistake let's hope nobody finds out. But then she proves her stupidity in public testimony and people are like what's up with this dope and start looking into how she got such a position. She brought it all on herself and there are a number of people who were mistreated by her saying 'Karma!'

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what was the motivation behind the plagiarism? I’m not clear on what she took credit for and why she would be motivated to do so.

Gay wanted to seem original, but she was plain derivative. Hence the plagiarism.

She said if she's fired she'll sue. I hope she does. It will be so entertaining. Prosecutors can look at her entire academic career. They'll be a lot of nuggets of interesting facts.

It won't be prosecutors since it will be civil law.

She's been hit with mew accusations. Up to 50 instances now.

Ok , if somebody fucked with, id be super fucked up. Why is she different?

Perhaps we could stopp shitting on women for a change?

Oh, you mean lying, plagiarizing women? Let's them them a pass because of their sex.

Well we absolutely never shit on men on DL!

Thank god DL never knew what I was doing. Not one thread about me. You would have thought there would be more than a few.

It's turned into a witch hunt. Unfortunately for everyone on Team Gay, the hunt is actually turning up real problems.

This is what happens when you abandon basic, straightforward principle and start digging in over... other criteria. Gay stepping aside, after her evident failure of leadership and damaging appearance in Washington, would have been forgotten by now and a decision based on the right thing to do. But, DEI. It's like that thread here on celebrities and how certain names are synonymous with certain scandals. Now Harvard's synonymous with elitism and whatever this mess boils down to.

My love, we don’nt shit n aaron here

There was a time when DL was an Aaron love fest.

Pray the gay away!

She looks like a royal cunt!

It will be interesting to see if the differently partisan newspapers cover this new development.

Ackman just won't let up. Busy yesterday...

If only they'd done the right and simple thing at the outset and she stepped aside with dignity and a good cover story. Now it's turned into counterproductive mutually assured destruction of reputations.

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, good-bye

Announced she's resigning today.

This bitch is out.

I take no pleasure in this, but it feels like the right thing to do. It's too bad she and everybody else screwed it up so badly but it's also good to see that, however belatedly, process and principle still apply. This is equality. There are many other talented, credible, deserving people of color. It was important Gay was not protected just because of DEI. That is bad for everybody.

Harvard president will update dissertation after more plagiarism

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Kidnapper will return child after SWAT team surrounds home

It's pretty good for honest students and professors. Not bad at all.

She’s out.

Ding dong the ugly witch is dead.

Makes sense that she's out. Agree with R540. All of this did result from a witch hunt, but a witch hunt that revealed real problems that would be grounds for firing even if it wasn't a witch hunt. So be it. I think there's real reputational damage to Harvard. Not enough for it to tank as an institution. Still highly sought after, still prestigious, but there will always be this stain, at least for a while. A premier academic position just opened up - and it will be interesting to see who is Harvard's new president and what course they take, what they say about The Gay Affair.

BREAKING: Disgraced Black President Gay Out

Gay Black President Outed!

"HARVARD PRESIDENT CLAUDINE GAY RESIGNS, SHORTEST TENURE IN UNIVERSITY HISTORY"

The Harvard Crimson, this morning

Harvard should sue her. Breach of Fiduciary Duty - under the clauses "self-dealing" and "failing to use reasonable care to fulfill work duties". Harvard won't, but they have lost hundreds of millions due to this garbage person.

Advancing up through Harvard via academic fraud is definitely "self-dealing". She's a sociopath. Quelle surprise.

I'm not sure the resignation letter is going to help anything:

Since last month's dreadful testimony we have seen, throughout the United States and around the world, an overwhelming expression of sadness at how it played. We have all been trying in our different ways to cope. It is not easy to express a sense of loss, since the initial shock is often succeeded by a mixture of other feelings: disbelief, incomprehension, anger - and concern for those who remain. We have all felt those emotions in these last few days. So what I say to you now, as your President and as a scholar, I say from my heart. My grandmother wrote to me and said "this may sound familiar," but I've thinking you must climb e'vry mountain, ford every stream, follow every rainbow, 'til you find your dream. And I had a dream, that one day all the theys from sea to shining sea, that them theys will live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. This has been a hard couple of months and though I was telling you I'm not going, I did ask myself: [italic]do[/italic] you know where you're going to? [italic]Do[/italic] you like the things that life is showing you? And the answer is, was, in this context my heart is too full to say anything else. Have I said too much? There is nothing more I can think of to say to you. But all you have to do is look at me - me, ME - not Google, me - to know that every word is true. And so, with immediate effect, you won't have Claudine Gay to kick around anymore."

I hate op and everyone who continues to reply to this thread. She’s ugly. Looks like a booger!

Bravo, R562. Please post it on on the new thread!

Shouldn't have been allowed to resign. Should have booted her ass weeks ago.

I'm really uncomfortable with this. I was not impressed with her responses. But I hate this becoming a culture war issue. Antisemitism has been an on-campus problem for years, though I would have referred to the UC and Cal-State campuses before the Ivies. Jewish students have been intimidated by SJP and other groups for years and some professors have been total shits. And hardly anyone cared. Now it's a big fucking deal. I want students to be treated justly and dread if the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction.

Dr. Sir Caludine.

R508 is further proof that the loony right-wing, gay-hating Trumpets are now not just on DL, they are becoming the majority.

[quote] All of this did result from a witch hunt

Witches don't exist, but intellectually bankrupt unethical racist university presidents do

CRIMSON FACED

Here’s how we got here:

Harvard first faced calls to fire Gay after she stood by the more than 30 Harvard student groups that published a letter claiming they held Israel “entirely responsible” for Hamas’ Oct. 7 terrorist attacks.

Gay faced further calls to step down after disastrous House testimony on antisemitism, in which the embattled president told Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) that calls for genocide against the Jews would only violate Harvard’s rules depending on their “context.”

Harvard announced Gay would remain president despite the school losing a reported $1 billion in donations. Journalists Christopher Rufo and Chris Brunet revealed that the embattled president plagiarized sections of her doctoral thesis, Harvard had previously covered up its own probe and threatened The Post when it looked into plagiarism allegations against Gay.

Former Professor Carol Swain, whose work Gay is accused of plagiarizing, said Harvard lacks the courage to fire “its first black president.” She added that Gay is “getting a free pass.”

Billionaire Bill Ackman claims that Harvard won’t fire her because it would look like it was “kowtowing” to him. Four doxxing trucks are parked outside Gay’s home, calling her “the best friend Hamas ever had.”

The embattled prez was hit with six new plagiarism allegations on Monday, January 1, 2024.

She was set to stepped down the following day.

[Quote] is further proof that the loony right-wing, gay-hating Trumpets are now not just on DL, they are becoming the majority.

sees the world through orange colored glasses

[quote]She's a sociopath

Mary!!!

I really enjoyed reading that r562!

This is R568

R572, in the spirit of the day I want to acknowledge I plagiarised somewhere around 93% of it.

Harvard here I come!

" Calling Gloria Allred and Rev. Al Sharpton. Get here immediately. The network television cameras are here."

Here I come to save the day!

[quote]Activist and TV personality Rev. Al Sharpton expressed outrage at Claudine Gay's resignation in a statement Tuesday.

[quote]"President Gay’s resignation is about more than a person or a single incident. This is an attack on every Black woman in this country who’s put a crack in the glass ceiling," he said.

[quote]Sharpton placed the blame for Gay's resignation on Wall Street financier and Harvard alum Bill Ackman's "relentless campaign against President Gay, not because of her leadership or credentials but because he felt she was a DEI hire."

The Rev Al Tawana Brawley Sharpton is too down market for Claudine Gay. And she burnt Obama with her lies and denials. Her future is all used up.

Al Sharpless is a boob.

I bet she can define resignation.

"Rather than take responsibility for minimizing antisemitism, committing serial plagiarism, intimidating the free press, and damaging the institution, she calls her critics racist," Christopher Rufo, board member of the New College of Florida and Manhattan Institute senior fellow, said in a post on X, formerly Twitter. "This is the poison of DEI ideology. Glad she's gone."

Will Sunny Hostin have a talk with Paloma?

[quote] The Rev Al Tawana Brawley Sharpton is too down market for Claudine Gay

But he's just the sort who fits perfectly on MSNBC.

Al won't be satisfied until he gets yet another group of Crown Heights Jews killed.

[quote]Activist and TV personality Rev. Al Sharpton expressed outrage at Claudine Gay's resignation in a statement Tuesday. "President Gay’s resignation is about more than a person or a single incident. This is an attack on every Black woman in this country who’s put a crack in the glass ceiling," he said.

MSNBC needs to do away with this buffoon.

R583 Msnbc has so many buffoons, that if they do them away, they would run out of faces.

Here's a professor who appears to have been a total shit. She's leaving GWU for Doha. Bye.

Sheehi's name origin in Albanian.

Muslims constitute approximately 59 percent of the population, Christians 38 percent,

Thank God women have been given a bigger role in academia to counter all of the dishonesty and corruption that men have brought to education.

Thanks, r586.

It doesn't stop with Claudine.

Sherri Charleston, Harvard's top DEI officer, has been accused of plagiarism.

Forty allegations of plagiarism.

When does it end?

It ends when these lazy grifting cows do the academic work required for their prestigious diplomas and academic positions. The cunt at R589 copied her husband's PUBLISHED paper and republished it as her own.

It's about entitlement.

[quote]Sherri Charleston, Harvard's top DEI officer

Why are DEI officers ALWAYS black?

[Quote] Going through someone's doctoral dissertation from 25+ years ago looking for possible plagarism is the spiteful academic's version of scrolling through a new celebrity's pre-fame tweets to find something problematic.

Welcome to the age of information R1

too bad someone didn't do a background credibility check on George Santos

[quote] Why are DEI officers ALWAYS black?

Because the job does not require cursive

Don't have weaknesses in your history when you go up against monsters.

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