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RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 16 OFFICIAL Thread!

Meet the queens video below.

They are so fucking boring. Except the Philly queen.

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by Anonymousreply 222February 26, 2024 12:38 AM

I'm kind of over this show, after watching every season. It's all been done, nothing new anymore.

by Anonymousreply 1December 7, 2023 5:48 AM

Oh goodie! Another queen from the House of Muse.

Also, given how much Ru loathes theater queens, Plasma better not get too comfortable.

by Anonymousreply 2December 10, 2023 7:13 PM

Who needs Drag QUEENS we need a drag Anarcho syndicalist collective.

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by Anonymousreply 3December 10, 2023 7:24 PM

Over it. Never again.

by Anonymousreply 4December 10, 2023 7:48 PM

What percentage of air time will be spent pontificating on gender, or how trans or non-binary each contestant is or becomes during the season? Guessing it will be at least a 5-10% increase from last season, if Canada's current season is any indication.

by Anonymousreply 5December 10, 2023 7:55 PM

I enjoyed the show in the beginning when the contestants weren't Instagram and/or TikTok sensations. The recent Queens are a bit obnoxious for my taste.

I'm done.

by Anonymousreply 6December 10, 2023 8:02 PM

^RuPaul

by Anonymousreply 7December 10, 2023 8:14 PM

Bump!

by Anonymousreply 8January 5, 2024 9:11 PM

RuPaul looks *sweetened*

by Anonymousreply 9January 6, 2024 1:34 AM

First show last night, and no one has posted anything (on a gay site!) I guess this franchise has finally bit the dust. R.I.P.

by Anonymousreply 10January 6, 2024 1:05 PM

Sapphira, Q, and Dawn were the clear standouts of this week's group--though Dawn reminds me a little too much of Willow Pill.

Amanda Tori Meating is far more attractive and charismatic out of drag, which is the exact opposite of the way these things usually go. She's got a dazzling smile and such a likeable personality, but her drag is bad and her makeup is awful.

That said, there's a lot of potential there. She won't win but if she improves quickly enough, she could go a lot further than people think. But if she doesn't improve, she'll be an early out.

Of next week's queens, the most talented one is Nymphia Wind. I'm really looking forward to seeing what that bitch will turn out

by Anonymousreply 11January 6, 2024 2:00 PM

Charlize was gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 12January 6, 2024 2:28 PM

People still watch this? I tapped out when the bulk of the queens were clearly social media ho's and it seemed like they stopped constructing their outfits and gowns. If you can't do that I'm not sure I'm interested.

by Anonymousreply 13January 6, 2024 2:57 PM

Still watching. The death drop is out and doing a split is in. We slipped into The Circle in the first episode. Take me to Circle Chat. Too bad they didn't show us who was ranked lowest. Give us cut throat.

by Anonymousreply 14January 6, 2024 4:08 PM

I liked it better when they all didn't do their makeup like Bozo The Clown.

by Anonymousreply 15January 6, 2024 4:22 PM

Dawn acts like she's doing something original when we've now had a weird queen each season for at least a decade now.

by Anonymousreply 16January 6, 2024 5:06 PM

I hate the rate the queen thing. The immunity is interesting. Hopefully, the next seven will be more interesting I was thinking Dawn = WIllow Pill just like the previous poster. Vegas one reminds me of Anetra with less resting bitch face. Q is very Shannell + Elliott with two Ts. Starkisha or whomever it was who one the first week, reminds me of a combo of Monet and Lala Ri. It is sad when you can just see the previous casts personalities in the same queens Amanda Tori Meeting is the only one who is somewhat original an interesting although even with her I see a little bit of Luck LaDuca.

by Anonymousreply 17January 6, 2024 5:06 PM

That Muse spawn is soooo basic. Like a queen from the local gay bar in Biloxi, MS. I guess they need cannon fodder every season.

by Anonymousreply 18January 6, 2024 7:49 PM

If you take away the loud mouth, Kandy's drag is nothing special. Apple...tree...

by Anonymousreply 19January 6, 2024 8:51 PM

Kandy Muse's drag is terrible. There was never any question about that.

by Anonymousreply 20January 6, 2024 9:39 PM

Went to see a Drag Queen Christmas when it rolled into town. A brief mention of Kandy’s name drew boos from the crowd.

by Anonymousreply 21January 6, 2024 9:49 PM

That blond queen is terrible......and yes the Muse queen is BASIC.

by Anonymousreply 22January 7, 2024 5:52 PM

So, is there another thread I don't know about? Or does this one truly reflect the (lack of) interest in this latest season?

by Anonymousreply 23January 13, 2024 12:53 AM

I'm enjoying it. Plane Jane will be great to hate.

by Anonymousreply 24January 13, 2024 2:20 AM

Jeez. Burger Finger? So stupid but not fun stupid. Can't believe she won. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 25January 13, 2024 3:47 AM

Jane is like a lesser Jimbo

by Anonymousreply 26January 13, 2024 3:59 AM

Jane is insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 27January 13, 2024 5:55 AM

Jimbo was off the wall. Jane is just trying to be.

by Anonymousreply 28January 13, 2024 1:03 PM

Jane is from the "if I put everyone down I will look better than everyone" drag school. Cha Cha Car or whatever her name was...that was a terrible lip sync. I kept yelling do a fucking split or something. So the first group got Charlize Theron and the second got...Becky G? Wow. Definitely team B.

by Anonymousreply 29January 13, 2024 3:22 PM

I'm tired of all the breast plates and fake titties. Is this Jimbo's impact? They look so cheap and aren't funny, just stupid looking.

by Anonymousreply 30January 13, 2024 3:40 PM

Yes I agree R30.

How many tasseled titties are we going to see this season?

by Anonymousreply 31January 13, 2024 3:54 PM

Yikes. That second batch of girls were definitely not as impressive. Seems like they purposely front loaded the season in episode one with the more talented queens and Charlize.

Also, WTF — they’re speeding up all of the performance numbers to make the dance moves look crisp and snappier. I’ve seen that trick in social media vids. Lame.

by Anonymousreply 32January 13, 2024 4:12 PM

Boy Jane is cute, though.

by Anonymousreply 33January 13, 2024 5:16 PM

The group last night was pretty grim. Jane is clearly copying Jimbo, but far less interesting.

by Anonymousreply 34January 13, 2024 6:19 PM

I don't know, it seems to me like Team B in the past were the more polished and talented ones. I like Plain Jane and Nymphia Wind. I could only remember Dawn, the Vegas/Anetra (can't remember name), and Amanda Tori Meeting from the first group

by Anonymousreply 35January 13, 2024 7:54 PM

r33 pretty much AWG. Just not as fug as the rest.

by Anonymousreply 36January 14, 2024 12:40 AM

This is a rather…pedestrian group, no?

by Anonymousreply 37January 14, 2024 10:30 PM

Yes boy Jane is very cute R33. His drag and sense of humor really appealed to RuPaul so he will be one to watch.

by Anonymousreply 38January 15, 2024 2:03 AM

I'm impressed by Nymphia Wind. The others not so much.

by Anonymousreply 39January 15, 2024 2:15 AM

It's worth pointing out that given how these things work this season would have filmed last May-June so it isn't like these queens are directly copying Jimbo on AS8. But yeah, it definitely feels very reminiscent of what Jimbo brought to that season.

Watched the first two episodes. I have no clue with Becky G is, how does she rate a premiere? I do agree that there was fair amount of boring personalities in the second group. It made it easy for Plane Jane to be such a loud mouth because honestly no one else was bringing any real personality, the episode would have been so boring without her.

I expect Sapphira, Jane, Dawn and Nymphia to go far. Honestly too many candidates that seem like they could be first outs.

by Anonymousreply 40January 15, 2024 2:29 AM

Yeah, those are my top 4 as well, with the Las Vegas Anetra prob in the top 7. I think the Dela/Jinx will make it to Snatch Game and will either do well or fail spectacularly. The one who sews well will prob be in top 7, but her lip sync is pretty pedestrian.

by Anonymousreply 41January 15, 2024 4:51 AM

Jane really did rip off Jimbo, though. It’s like he took notes from watching Jimbo on how to do weird stuff in order to catch Ru’s attention. I even recall Jimbo squirting mayonnaise or something on himself. I feel like at some point if he keeps it up, he’ll get called out by a judge, probably Michelle.

by Anonymousreply 42January 15, 2024 11:30 AM

No, it’s not as good as it used to be but it already seems better than the season 14 low point. Season 15 was a bit better than 14 but not by much. It’s still enjoyable enough to watch at the weekend with a glass of wine I guess. Dragula Season 5 though has been brilliant! Hopefully The Boulet Brothers can keep the level of quality up

by Anonymousreply 43January 15, 2024 12:29 PM

Well if you think about it, RPDR has been what...16 seasons? There is a finite amount of talented drag queens. With Dragula at season 5, there are fewer contestants, and probably more undiscovered talent. Niohuru X is in a class by herself, with 2 great Drag Kings as well.

by Anonymousreply 44January 15, 2024 2:44 PM

It's been said before, but nowadays the queens cast are people who started doing drag because they were fans of drag race with the goal of getting on drag race. It's a completely different type of game than the real working drag queens who were found because of this show.

by Anonymousreply 45January 15, 2024 2:53 PM

That Mugami thing is terrible.

by Anonymousreply 46January 15, 2024 3:23 PM

Cosplay queens never do well. They impress the hell out of the straight guys who want to fuck them at comicons, but they lack polish and wit because they don't need it.

by Anonymousreply 47January 15, 2024 3:26 PM

Whoever cut Russian Jimbo's hair clearly hates her as much as the rest of us

by Anonymousreply 48January 15, 2024 3:27 PM

Jimbo doesn't own any of those things R42.

by Anonymousreply 49January 15, 2024 3:45 PM

r49 no she doesn't but she brought a clown drag look to Drag Race so the comparison will be obvious.

by Anonymousreply 50January 15, 2024 3:55 PM

And her weird little act about food

by Anonymousreply 51January 15, 2024 10:48 PM

No, R49, but it’s just been done. By Jimbo. And better.

by Anonymousreply 52January 15, 2024 11:09 PM

So many damn looks doing a ball with this many queens.

But when Nymphia walked out in the look she made I gay gasped. That was gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 53January 20, 2024 3:54 AM

The fact that anyone still watches this crap is disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 54January 20, 2024 3:56 AM

Get ready to feel disgusted r54

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by Anonymousreply 55January 20, 2024 4:01 AM

I too gasped at Nymphia's dress. I liked Hershii. Sad to see her go.

by Anonymousreply 56January 20, 2024 4:33 AM

I'm predicting it right now: the winner of this year's season will be either Nymphia or Sapphira, and whoever doesn't win this time will win on a future season of All Stars.

by Anonymousreply 57January 20, 2024 2:18 PM

Q thought she had this in the bag- the look of disappointment on her! Nymphia's Angelina look was very meh, but her final look was really beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 58January 20, 2024 2:19 PM

R58 and production cut to Q every chance they could. Her moon look was ill-fitting and the other two were less impressive. The other thing I don't like about her is her nose contour. It makes her face look pinched and mildly disturbing.

by Anonymousreply 59January 20, 2024 3:17 PM

Plane randomly going after Amanda and then Plasma was such an obvious ploy for screen time. Already over her. She should have spent less time shading people and more time noticing the weird color of her tights.

by Anonymousreply 60January 20, 2024 4:30 PM

I guess Plane Jane is the one we’re being told to “hate” but really, the worst is Morphine. I can’t stand her.

by Anonymousreply 61January 20, 2024 6:37 PM

Finally watched episode three.

Too many busted queens! It's tedious.

by Anonymousreply 62January 21, 2024 3:31 PM

I like Amanda's personality and confessional. Jane can present pretty and has a good concept of proportioning but she is not that handsome out of drag and not that great of a performer.

by Anonymousreply 63January 22, 2024 6:50 PM

I really don't understand why anyone would want the villian edit. Do they really want to be hated, just for screen time?

by Anonymousreply 64January 22, 2024 7:17 PM

Plane knows she's not that talented. Being the villain is one way to guarantee more screen time and a longer stay on the show. She's already eating the season with all the attention she's getting.

by Anonymousreply 65January 22, 2024 7:26 PM

It's hard for me to watch the contestants in drag and then see Ru, looking like a beautiful drag version of a Barbie doll. Why do the contestants (with the exception of Sapphira) look like rejects from from a local clown college? Some of their looks would have fit in well in The Greatest Showman with the bearded lady!

by Anonymousreply 66January 22, 2024 7:27 PM

Ru is a multimillionaire with a team of people to make sure he looks perfect r66.

You realize these queens are working on a real life budget? It's incredibly expensive to get ready to Drag Race.

by Anonymousreply 67January 22, 2024 7:29 PM

I would happily fuck Mirage.

by Anonymousreply 68January 22, 2024 7:54 PM

I get that, R67. But why do the contestants make themselves so unattractive and more theatrical? That's what I don't get.

I'm 61+ so I remember when drag queens made themselves up to look like Judy, Barbra, Cher, etc.

by Anonymousreply 69January 22, 2024 7:57 PM

I think at this point — after 16 seasons of this — we’re just wading through a shallow pool of contestants, talent and skill-wise.

It’s clear some of these queens are either too young and new at drag (hence, the busted makeup) or they weren’t talented enough to make it on the show sooner (hence, the busted makeup).

by Anonymousreply 70January 22, 2024 8:14 PM

Ru has lost his waist. Too lazy for the corset or that IS with the corset?

by Anonymousreply 71January 22, 2024 8:31 PM

Yeah, a lot of busted queens. But you also saw a lot of busted queens in past years who, with a little bit of exposure, probably became able to work more, make more money, and afford better makeup/hair/outfits. Think of how, for example, Jinx looked in her first season compared to how she looks now. So I don’t judge a lot of newer queens too harshly on their total looks knowing that a lot of it comes down to experience and money.

by Anonymousreply 72January 22, 2024 11:15 PM

I haven't watched the past 10 seasons and thought I was over it. But now I'm morbidly curious to see what this demimonde has come to, a decade later. My God the deflated Michelle Visage is a shock, as is RuPaul's blocky silhouette, mentioned above. I remember Ru from back in the day when we were both tall skinny young histrionics on the New York scene. I think he looks better now than he was looking 10 years ago, however, when his face was gaunt.

by Anonymousreply 73January 23, 2024 11:24 AM

I think Ru has said "fuck it" to wearing corsets.

by Anonymousreply 74January 23, 2024 12:42 PM

Jane is tiresome

by Anonymousreply 75January 28, 2024 12:51 AM

Her drag is rough, and I thought I was going to hate her from the first episode, but I’m really starting to like Amanda Tori.

HOW is that one terrible queen landing in the bottom every week yet evading LSFYL? She’s the worst. I guess her Kermit Cher saved her this week. I didn’t think Mirage was THAT bad..but she probably would have not made it much longer so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

by Anonymousreply 76January 28, 2024 1:07 AM

I'd say without R71. Ru's 63 now. He probably saves corsets for special occasions.

by Anonymousreply 77January 28, 2024 1:13 AM

Plane will definitely have a glow up on her face after the show, her face is a bit raw now. But she'll be really stunning later. I really liked her SNL character, better than that insufferable Broadway theater Babs (why are all the theater kids like that?). As Michelle pointed out, underplaying is always better.

I fully expected Mirage to do some heel clacks to that song, but she really didn't know it at all.

by Anonymousreply 78January 28, 2024 3:03 AM

I can't stand Geneva Karr and Morphine Love Dion. Both are subpar and need to go in the next two weeks. How Geneva Karr survived this week is unfathomable. That Linsey Graham performance was the worst. In the lip synch - Mirage didn't know the words and that's not acceptable any more. Also couldn't sew.

by Anonymousreply 79January 28, 2024 3:09 AM

I liked Mirage, but not knowing any of the words to the lipsynch song is pretty much a death knell

by Anonymousreply 80January 28, 2024 3:11 AM

Agreed R80 - I liked Mirage too but the lipsynch was not acceptable. Not in season 16. He obviously thought there was no way he could be in the bottom 2. Which is why you gotta learn the words even if you know you are going to win the challenge and the week.

by Anonymousreply 81January 28, 2024 3:13 AM

They wanted Mirage to eliminate Geneva, it is flat out unprofessional that Mirage never bothered to learn the song. You could tell Ru was pissed.

by Anonymousreply 82January 28, 2024 12:15 PM

Yes I thought that too R82. Ru was pissed but couldn't swing it and eliminate Geneva.

Big mistake on Mirage's part. Like I said above - Mirage clearly thought he had no chance of being in the bottom 2 and therefore didn't learn the words.

by Anonymousreply 83January 28, 2024 12:18 PM

I can't stand Plane Jane, but I thought she deserved the win. I'm glad she didn't win though, and of course, felt she didn't deserve it when she won the first time. But then again, I thought Mhi'ya was really funny in her sketch, better than most, and yet she ended up in the bottom - supposedly because it was "all one note." If it was up to me, the third in the bottom would have been Megami who was not funny at all, and who should have lipsynced with Geneva, with Geneva going home.

by Anonymousreply 84January 28, 2024 12:39 PM

Am I the only one who thinks Dawn's makeup is hideous? It's like Crystal Method but bad.

by Anonymousreply 85January 28, 2024 1:20 PM

My final three would be Nymphia, Sapphira and Q.

by Anonymousreply 86January 28, 2024 1:28 PM

I can't stand Plane Jane (Andy Dunayevskiy) either but he's very talented, constantly surprising, well-rounded, nice looking and will be in the final three. Pity about his personality and the stupid crap he says. Hopefully it's all just bluster and an act for tv. Perhaps he's been told to do that by the show producers. Maybe his pissed off about his surname. Who knows.

The other one to watch is Nymphia Wind. I think Q is very cute.

by Anonymousreply 87January 28, 2024 1:29 PM

Drag Race: the TV show that convinced a generation of gay men that being masculine means they have internalized homophobia and that they can only be "officially" gay by sashaying down a runway in women's clothes while lip syncing to a bunch of tired old fag hag divas.

by Anonymousreply 88January 28, 2024 1:36 PM

R88, something tells me your internalized homophobia would be a major problem in your life, whether or not RPDR was on television.

I've been watching it since its inception and never once has it tried, subliminally or otherwise, to convert "masculine" guys to screaming queens.

by Anonymousreply 89January 28, 2024 1:55 PM

R88, dumbest reader in the library.

by Anonymousreply 90January 28, 2024 2:03 PM

"Don't joke about that."

by Anonymousreply 91January 28, 2024 2:29 PM

2012

by Anonymousreply 92January 28, 2024 2:42 PM

And yet, r91 r92, you are here in this thread commenting.

by Anonymousreply 93January 28, 2024 2:45 PM

r85, she's ripping off Miss Gay Matte's style, who's been doing this look for at least 8 years:

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by Anonymousreply 94January 28, 2024 2:49 PM

True, r93. But reading you guys is infinitely more fascinating that this tired, repetitive old show.

by Anonymousreply 95January 28, 2024 2:53 PM

Geneva seems to be a legend in her own mind. Also, I hated Q's performance in the challenge. Talk about no levels. And how much do I love that Amanda is a ghost writer for women on OnlyFans! LOL

by Anonymousreply 96January 28, 2024 4:01 PM

[quote] Drag Race: the TV show that convinced a generation of gay men that being masculine means they have internalized homophobia and that they can only be "officially" gay by sashaying down a runway in women's clothes while lip syncing to a bunch of tired old fag hag divas.

I'm sure this makes sense in your mind.

by Anonymousreply 97January 28, 2024 8:16 PM

R88 is a retard.

by Anonymousreply 98January 28, 2024 8:23 PM

The right queen went home - but there are so many extra busted drags on this season.

Geneva has got to GO!

by Anonymousreply 99January 29, 2024 5:48 PM

Ha! Plane Jane has filed a trademark registration for BURGER FINGER™. If it goes through I'll probably be sued for infringement.

by Anonymousreply 100January 31, 2024 4:46 PM

same ole, same ole

the novelty of it has expire

by Anonymousreply 101January 31, 2024 4:54 PM

Mirage wasn’t going to win the whole thing, but I’m sad we didn’t get to see her dance some more. She’s a great performer, though she basically eliminated herself.

There’s already a clear top four and soooo many lame queens still left to go.

by Anonymousreply 102January 31, 2024 5:29 PM

Yeah it seems incredibly obvious who the queens at the finale will be r102. There are a few who are clearly better than the rest, but that happens

by Anonymousreply 103January 31, 2024 5:43 PM

r102 Problem with young queens. They don't bother with the details and it is the details that win you drag race. Ru said she knew Trya Sanchez was the winner during the wedding gown challenge when she pulled her veil down after winning to walk to the back. Ru said that little detail let her know Tyra was a winner. Too bad about the bomb threat lol.

by Anonymousreply 104January 31, 2024 9:24 PM

God, I hope Jane gets read by Michelle or Ru at some point for being so derivative. Bitch needs to get taken down a few pegs.

by Anonymousreply 105January 31, 2024 11:08 PM

Still love this show. This season has lots of talent, but also queens who shouldn’t have been selected. Magami is hideous and should have been sent home immediately. Plane is a cunt who is screaming for attention, so I hope Amanda gives it to her: right between the eyes. Hated to see Mirage go home, and I’m secretly rooting for Plasma. Agree that Morphine is as bad as Plane, and twice as delusional. All she does is slap her own fake ass. 🙄

by Anonymousreply 106January 31, 2024 11:40 PM

…..and Amanda came out as trans.

by Anonymousreply 107February 1, 2024 12:41 AM

I'm sorry you Stepin Fetchits don't get that Drag Race is nothing but a minstrel show so the straights can laugh at the "fags" and say, "See, all homos want to dress in women's clothes."

by Anonymousreply 108February 1, 2024 1:19 PM

Let us know when the shuttle lands, r108.

by Anonymousreply 109February 1, 2024 7:36 PM

That was bullshit. The two worst were in the winning team!

by Anonymousreply 110February 3, 2024 6:08 PM

Here's your winner.

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by Anonymousreply 111February 3, 2024 7:37 PM

Nah, I think Jane gets cut at 5th.

by Anonymousreply 112February 3, 2024 9:40 PM

I sure hope so r112. I can’t stand that miserable bitch!

by Anonymousreply 113February 3, 2024 9:50 PM

I think the judges got the winning group right r110. I never would have suspected it, but they ended up being the best group.

by Anonymousreply 114February 3, 2024 10:33 PM

I’m glad Plane Jane (stupid drag name) got properly, no pun intended, dragged yesterday in the dressing room pre-runway.

by Anonymousreply 115February 3, 2024 11:52 PM

I think Plane will be in the top 3 with Nymphia and Sapphira.

by Anonymousreply 116February 4, 2024 1:38 AM

Just love them all!

by Anonymousreply 117February 4, 2024 8:12 AM

I'd sleep with one eye open if I were Nymphia and Sapphira

by Anonymousreply 118February 4, 2024 2:11 PM

I wanted Mirage to stay too. I was into the Vegas stripper stuff. I liked that the winning group this week were the underdogs with the exception of Nymphia. Amanda's drag was very dime store but she grew on me. Plane Jane is a cunt but we need some tension and she's quite handsome out of drag.

by Anonymousreply 119February 4, 2024 2:34 PM

Apparently Amanda has been doing drag for 2 years, so it's evident. Her makeup on Kinky Boots was way better than what she does, because it was designed by someone else. She genuinely looks like a contestant on the Oz version of RPDR.

by Anonymousreply 120February 4, 2024 3:21 PM

Amanda was hot in her college years. Muscled and blonde.

by Anonymousreply 121February 4, 2024 4:10 PM

Well she has come out as trans, which makes sense when you see how much she changed her look from when she used to look more masc.

by Anonymousreply 122February 5, 2024 4:14 PM

Meeting is canceled, go to your workout class.

by Anonymousreply 123February 5, 2024 4:49 PM

Bitch Jane looked satisfied. I thought Q would go, though, based on her clunky dance moves.

by Anonymousreply 124February 5, 2024 5:46 PM

Wow, no comments from this week's show. Is ANYONE watching?

by Anonymousreply 125February 11, 2024 12:30 PM

Probably just a rehash of the same numbered episode from any of the previous 327,649 seasons.

by Anonymousreply 126February 11, 2024 12:31 PM

UK vs the World is already so much better.

by Anonymousreply 127February 11, 2024 3:42 PM

Meh. I was expecting Law to read dem bitches. The best line was you got danny devito legs.

by Anonymousreply 128February 11, 2024 3:50 PM

Law confirmed he is a cunt.

These girls seem lie a bunch of ragamuffins with no beauty among them.

Plane Jane is entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 129February 11, 2024 3:53 PM

Honestly, the show does not even know its strengths. They never should have let Amanda go. Geneva Carr and Mya needed to go before Amanda. The Jane/Amanda feud was the entertainment of the show. They should have at least kept her to mid-season, even done a few bits about Morphine showing her how to paint blah blah blah. Mya we get it you flip. You still look like a linebacker in drag. Q is a one-trick pony. I make great looks. So did Ivy Winters but she was boring as shit. Guess what. So is Q. Nymphia is somewhat interesting but the bananas thing is getting old. It's like the producers stopped producing a narrative like they would do before and all the queens except for Jane are afraid to say shit for fear of the fans coming for them.

by Anonymousreply 130February 11, 2024 4:04 PM

At least the right ones are going home - although Geneva should have left sooner.

I'm sorry but Mugami is ugly in and out of drag - poor thing.

And the manufactured drama is too fake to be entertaining.

I kind of like Dawn and Saphira.......

by Anonymousreply 131February 11, 2024 4:08 PM

I've NEVER thought this about a drag queen before, but I think Plain Jane is a hot guy.

Mya or whatever the fuck that beast with the braces and horrible makeup is called needs to go. That outfit on the runway was one of the worst I've ever seen, including that PLASTIC BREASTPLATE. Which that freak with too-white teeth praised.

by Anonymousreply 132February 11, 2024 5:48 PM

Plane Jane is physically attractive out of drag but his miserable cunt personality makes him ugly as shit. Unfortunately the judges seem to like her.

by Anonymousreply 133February 11, 2024 8:13 PM

Plane Jane got to go onstage with Madonna as a featured guest. They are both grade A cunts so I’m not surprised Madonna likes her.

by Anonymousreply 134February 11, 2024 9:44 PM

Where can I see UK vs The World?

by Anonymousreply 135February 12, 2024 3:00 AM

Agree that Amanda should’ve stuck around longer if only for the drama.

She also was the best “narrator” in the interviews and seemed genuinely fun. She’s the only queen this a season I’d pay to go see, messiness and all.

by Anonymousreply 136February 12, 2024 3:06 AM

Plane Jane is rodent like from many angles.

by Anonymousreply 137February 12, 2024 3:21 AM

Particularly in her behavior, R137.

by Anonymousreply 138February 12, 2024 3:25 AM

Plane Jane is Russian. It's all you need to know

by Anonymousreply 139February 12, 2024 3:32 AM

Especially if she grew up in a Russian enclave. I wouldn’t trust her in the slightest. She will lie, cheat, and steal her way to the final.

by Anonymousreply 140February 12, 2024 4:04 AM

Big mistake cutting Amanda Tori so soon. HUGE.

by Anonymousreply 141February 12, 2024 4:13 AM

At the very least, Megami… Geneva… the one who flips… and Xunami should’ve been gone before Amanda

by Anonymousreply 142February 12, 2024 4:19 AM

Agreed, r142. I don’t think Amanda really even deserved Top 5, but she’s for sure better than those queens you named. How has Mugami escaped the bottom every week? (Has she been in the bottom?)

by Anonymousreply 143February 12, 2024 4:23 AM

And how did Xunami not hit the bottom 3 in that shitty outfit she cooked up this week??

by Anonymousreply 144February 12, 2024 4:24 AM

Now it’s the bottom of the bottoms battling it out to try and stay another week. Flipper is low rung.

by Anonymousreply 145February 12, 2024 4:57 AM

Amanda out of drag is HOMELY!

by Anonymousreply 146February 12, 2024 3:12 PM

r135, currently on the WOW Present Plus. I think it's worth it, as it has all the other countries Drag Races (Thailand, France, italia Espana, Belgique, UK, Canada, and Australia, UK vs the World, and Canada vs The World), with the exception of both seasons of Thailand. Also has a great miniseries with Pangina, with a meh miniseries with Jimbo.

by Anonymousreply 147February 12, 2024 3:19 PM

r146 uhhhh

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by Anonymousreply 148February 12, 2024 4:36 PM

R148 what a fucking shame! He was so hot before he turned trans.

Horrible.

by Anonymousreply 149February 12, 2024 4:57 PM

Oh wow. Shoulda stayed a dude.

by Anonymousreply 150February 12, 2024 5:11 PM

Bye, Booger.

by Anonymousreply 151February 17, 2024 2:56 AM

Still should have kept Amanda. She would have been a riot in this.

by Anonymousreply 152February 17, 2024 2:59 AM

Amanda was lucky she made it as long as she did, she would have been eliminated very soon either way. She even admits it was probably good she got eliminated before they had the design challenge with Law Roach, she would have gotten killed that episode.

by Anonymousreply 153February 17, 2024 5:50 PM

That lead of the musical has ZERO star appeal. He doesn't have "IT"

by Anonymousreply 154February 18, 2024 2:14 AM

I liked Amanda ok. She could have hung on another episode of two but girl, please. Her makeup is Halloween costume amateur level. The mid range to go next are Mhi'ya Iman, I don't think Xunami is making much of an impression, and Morphine.

by Anonymousreply 155February 18, 2024 2:25 AM

Perhaps now is a good time to say I do not like Dawn very much. She's cute and fun or whatever. IDK, guys, I'm not feeling it. Being from NY, it's a little too "Brooklyn" for me. And by that I mean quirky but why. Art school shit. She's diet Willow Pill. Doesn't have the oddity of Yvie. Doesn't have the talent of Sasha Velour. Dawn is very good in the grand scheme of things but.. IDK. Her looks and makeup are very polished but I'm not feeling a passion or real drive like some of the other names I mentioned. It's like she's a character at a comiccon. She lacks any feel for the femaleness of it all.. the tradition of being a queen.

by Anonymousreply 156February 18, 2024 2:33 AM

I'd rather have Dawn than that insufferable Plasma. What is it about theatre queens that makes them so unlikable? Is it the "pick me" or "I'm the central character" attitude?

by Anonymousreply 157February 18, 2024 2:47 AM

Plasma is taking it all a little too seriously in that way. I'm sure it's very hard to do all this but it's not completely a winning look. It's not really how the winner is. This might be her peak episode. I think Q, Plane and Sapphira are more likely in the last rounds.

by Anonymousreply 158February 18, 2024 3:18 AM

This is the season of the average run of the mill queen with no real standouts. They all are pretty forgettable. There’s also been no good lip sync the entire season.

by Anonymousreply 159February 18, 2024 3:45 AM

[quote]Long gone are the times when we could just rip an episode to shreds because it bored us, alas. There are too many stans, too many people invoking identity politics, and the contestants have so much social media clout now that it’s not worth all the pouting, accusations and drama that ensues if one wants to just ask the simple question “Is it us or is this all sucking?”

[quote]. . from where we’re sitting at least, so far there hasn’t been one iconic performance, hilarious line delivery, or epic lip sync all season. It’s even been somewhat light in the sickening looks department. And the one drama-providing villain in the group is far too aware of the tropes and winking to the camera a bit too much for anyone to get worked up over her shenanigans.

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by Anonymousreply 160February 18, 2024 10:25 AM

Well so far - what an unlikable bunch they all are. I can't stand most of them. So much whining. But I'm starting to really like Plane Jane now he's settled down. There are a few below average queens still in it. I'm not barracking for any of them at this point. I'm also watching the UK and the world UK show which has 2 episodes out so far. It's good.

by Anonymousreply 161February 18, 2024 11:18 AM

As theater queens go, Plasma is pretty mild. Sure, a little too intense, a little too self-important, but she isn't getting on my nerves like some of her predecessors.

by Anonymousreply 162February 18, 2024 11:57 AM

R162 you called?

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by Anonymousreply 163February 18, 2024 2:13 PM

I actually Loved Mhi'ya's lipsync, though I wished they had shown her slide from the front. I also thought she shouldn't have been in the bottom that first time, when I thought she was very funny. But other than that, she's pretty bad. And why did Dawn black out her teeth for the Rusical? But I thnk the whole concept for the Rusical these days is stupid. They used to at least record their parts or sing live. Now it's all pretty lame. So who cares who gets it. Was Plasma really better than the others? Doesn't it have as much to do with who is actually voicing the parts? Meh.

by Anonymousreply 164February 18, 2024 2:14 PM

I predict it will be a pretty dire Snatch Game this season. Jane might be able to okay, but I don’t think any of them have any sort of comic timing.

by Anonymousreply 165February 18, 2024 2:36 PM

Dawn is just doing elf fantasy dress up and I am not here for it. Plasma is just unlikeable. She's like that kid at the holidays who makes everyone watch her put on a show.

by Anonymousreply 166February 18, 2024 2:54 PM

Q was massively overpraised in the Rusical. All she did was mouth words while walking back and forth.

by Anonymousreply 167February 18, 2024 3:21 PM

Agreed R167. I'm sick to death of her whining and complaining about how hard done by she is.

by Anonymousreply 168February 18, 2024 3:22 PM

I was hoping for a double elimination.

by Anonymousreply 169February 18, 2024 3:29 PM

Remember kids, we're in Season 16, so we're pretty much plundering the bottom of the barrel- the younger queens are social media and not performance based. The rest of the world has fewer seasons with undiscovered talent, so their shows tend to be better.

by Anonymousreply 170February 18, 2024 3:39 PM

I will give props to Megami. "WHAT COREO?"

by Anonymousreply 171February 18, 2024 3:45 PM

Ooh, R165 - I can’t wait for the cringe Snatch Game this season. Guaranteed cringe. Younger queens often don’t get the point of being satirical or a caricature.

by Anonymousreply 172February 18, 2024 3:54 PM

That Tom and Lorenzo article summed my feelings up perfectly.

by Anonymousreply 173February 18, 2024 4:01 PM

The UK queens are where it's at for me. Much more charming, well educated, and fun.

by Anonymousreply 174February 18, 2024 4:04 PM

r174, if La Grande Dame doesn't win, it'll be a Pangina situation again.

by Anonymousreply 175February 18, 2024 4:11 PM

Coloring within the lines from that article makes sense. The Snatch Game will not be good. Maybe they should pull the plug in a season or two and completely overhaul the whole concept. Trying to think what a new direction could be... something more about live performance or touring? Squid games? Something more documentary about getting started in drag? I have no idea.

by Anonymousreply 176February 18, 2024 5:47 PM

The US queen are pretty dull, huh? Nymphia is trying to be entertaining. Perhaps there's not enough Cleverness.

by Anonymousreply 177February 18, 2024 5:55 PM

The show is still popular, right? They will run the same format into the ground.

by Anonymousreply 178February 18, 2024 5:56 PM

Then a spinoff. Something completely new for the allstars to chew on.

You're right, it'll go till the wheels fall off.

by Anonymousreply 179February 18, 2024 5:58 PM

They should revamp Drag U and make it a competition. Three former RPdR stars serve as coaches and pick their team as the voice based on performance or something Then they compete in various themed runways through out the season with the bottom two lipsynching but the viewers vote and then the loser is kicked off the next week. Then the one winner can appear on RPDR the next season.

by Anonymousreply 180February 21, 2024 1:22 AM

There is a flatness to this season.

by Anonymousreply 181February 21, 2024 1:58 AM

Thanks for noticing me R181.

by Anonymousreply 182February 23, 2024 2:42 PM

I wonder how quickly Me-again McCain called her lawyer.

by Anonymousreply 183February 24, 2024 2:27 AM

Told ya in episode one who will win.

by Anonymousreply 184February 24, 2024 2:28 AM

I’m actually enjoying this season but it was clear in the reading challenge that none of these queens are clever enough to deliver a great Snatch Game.

Not a Jinx or Bianca in the bunch.

by Anonymousreply 185February 24, 2024 6:43 AM

They all seem like mental patients and the drag is their daily activity.

by Anonymousreply 186February 24, 2024 6:47 AM

That was not good.

by Anonymousreply 187February 24, 2024 12:17 PM

Oh no, was it bad? I saw the reading challenge on YouTube and it was one of the worst. I was disappointed in Nymphia and Sapphira. They gave Sapphira one joke on the show meaning hers were most likely terrible. Xunami was more crude than funny. Ru looked disappointed. If that’s the reading challenge I can only imagine how bad Snatch was.

by Anonymousreply 188February 24, 2024 1:03 PM

After all these years, there’s NO excuse for anyone to come half ass to Snatch Game. SMH

by Anonymousreply 189February 24, 2024 2:31 PM

Well, there is the excuse that these are a bunch of untalented hacks.

by Anonymousreply 190February 24, 2024 2:32 PM

I honestly think most queens try for a celeb impersonation that will make them safe. Dawn could have taken Megan to the full tilt crazy but she played her low key. Q? I just don't get doing Ameilia Aerhardt, don't even get started on the gold tooth fairy. Sepheria should have won for James Brown.

by Anonymousreply 191February 24, 2024 3:01 PM

I fell asleep so I'll watch OnDemand.......but with the comments so far, I am not optimistic.

by Anonymousreply 192February 24, 2024 3:04 PM

I think Sapphira could have won that one. Plane Jane didn't hardly dance for the runway.

by Anonymousreply 193February 24, 2024 3:58 PM

I hate Plane Jane, but even I have to admit she was the best. Sorry, but Dawn was much worse than Morphine, and should have been lipsyncing for that. And other than holding a martini glass as if she was Joanne in Company, that was the worst Patti Lupone ever. Plazma sucked. (But wasn't as bad as most of the others, which tells you how truly awful the whole thing was.)

by Anonymousreply 194February 24, 2024 4:23 PM

The fact that Plane won for that rather boring, Serbian whatever just underscores how dire this season is. The tooth fairy could have been funny is Xunami had made her money hungry or something. Dawn totally missed that all Megan does is talk about her father. Not sure why Plasma didn't lean in on Patti being a total bitch. What a sad bunch.

by Anonymousreply 195February 24, 2024 4:31 PM

Even Anna Delvey you could have done something like switch up fake accents from German to French to British, etc. to play on the running joke that her accent keeps changing. A lot of these queens lack imagination in addition to talent.

by Anonymousreply 196February 24, 2024 6:22 PM

Oh my......well now we know what we're dealing with for sure.

I don't think there is anything else they can do that can make the rest of the season interesting, entertaining,, or watchable......

Dawn should definitely have been in the bottom two - her game playing AND runway look were both sorely lacking.

by Anonymousreply 197February 24, 2024 6:40 PM

RIP RuPaul's Drag Race.

Now, sashay away.

by Anonymousreply 198February 24, 2024 7:17 PM

I don’t get Dawn at all. He’s like Williamsburg 15 years ago. I’ll be perfectly fine when he goes, sooner rather than later.

Plane did well. Sapphira was okay. Plasma was fine. Q was, I don’t know, there I guess. I kind of thought what Nymphia was doing was brilliant, but Ru hated it, and that pretty much shut down her shot at winning the whole thing. I’m tired of everyone else. We can fast forward to the final four.

by Anonymousreply 199February 25, 2024 3:33 AM

This episode revealed that none of these queens have what it takes.

At least the shy queen with braces has her flips. At this point last year, we already knew Anetra and Sasha were lip syncers who could sell tickets.

Like Willow’s season, there will be winner… but no star.

by Anonymousreply 200February 25, 2024 3:52 AM

It's crystal clear that Plane Jane is going to be the winner.

by Anonymousreply 201February 25, 2024 5:21 AM

R184 - who did you say it would be?

by Anonymousreply 202February 25, 2024 5:57 AM

This show has given me great pleasure over the years, but for a long time now I've been enjoying it less and less with each new season. Part of the reason is that the show is so damn formulaic, and things that once felt fresh now seem old and tired. These challenges have been driven into the ground and you rarely see contestants do things with them that haven't been done much better before.

But an even bigger factor, I think, is that I'm enjoying the queens less and less. Each season I ask myself, would I pay to see any of these queens perform? And this year, as in too many recent seasons, the answer is no.

The earlier seasons featured some outstanding queens who are great live performers. But I can't imagine paying money to see any of this season's queens. None of them have the kind of wit, charisma, and performing chops you see in a great drag queen. Q and Nymphia have come up with some stunning lewks, but when drag becomes little more than a fashion show it gets very boring very fast.

Maybe the pool of drag talent out there just isn't that deep, or maybe the newer generation of drag queens are so terrified of giving offense that they're a lot more safe and boring. Whatever the reason, I'm sad that this show has become a shell of its former self.

by Anonymousreply 203February 25, 2024 7:20 AM

Xunami Muse lost me when she claimed to be allied with horrendous, untalented, and vicious Kandy Muse.

by Anonymousreply 204February 25, 2024 3:32 PM

Snatch Game is a hard challenge. Pretty much every season it's only a few girls who do good job at it while most people suck.

Yeah every year people act surprised that most of the Snatch Games are not good.

by Anonymousreply 205February 25, 2024 3:53 PM

Sapphira and Plane Jane are easily the most talented two queens this season. I know people love Nymphia, but she isn't nearly as well rounded as those two.

by Anonymousreply 206February 25, 2024 3:55 PM

Top 3 Sapphira, Plane, Q

by Anonymousreply 207February 25, 2024 3:57 PM

If you know you’re going to be on Drag Race, learn how to sew and for FUCK’S sake, watch Match Game and figure it out. Anna? The gold tooth fairy?! JANE GOODALL???!!!

Nymphia is nothing. How the fuck is Dawn still there?!? She talked about Plasma is just shtick shtick shtick, but her fucking elf look isn’t??? Q’s out of control narcissism is, well, out of control.

by Anonymousreply 208February 25, 2024 4:08 PM

The show is desperately trying to push Q as some great performer. She just isn't. She has nice looks and that's the end of the story with her.

by Anonymousreply 209February 25, 2024 5:05 PM

Season 15 had some great performers and/or personalities: Sasha, Anetra, Luxx, Mistress, Loosey, Marsha and Jax.

Season 16 has Plane and Sapphira, and then a bunch of lesser trolls.

by Anonymousreply 210February 25, 2024 5:10 PM

Completely agree r209. Q is a very talented seamstress who can whip up some great looks, give her all the credit there.

Outside of that I remain unimpressed. Didn't think her stonewall brick character was funny no matter what the judges tried to say.

by Anonymousreply 211February 25, 2024 5:11 PM

They're treading lightly with Dawn because they'll get death threats from gen z and tween girls for criticizing her.

by Anonymousreply 212February 25, 2024 5:16 PM

I wish she'd skewered Megan McCain with a fatsuit, dumb donut braid hairstyle and giant boob plate. So much material there.

by Anonymousreply 213February 25, 2024 5:25 PM

The Snatch Game was unusually joyless. Possibly an all time worst Snatch Game.

by Anonymousreply 214February 25, 2024 5:29 PM

I know, R213, if I hadn’t been told she was doing Mooghan, I’d have never guessed it. So much material from her dad to threatening to sue anyone for looking at her sideways. And the Heidi braids and petulant look - how can you blow it?

by Anonymousreply 215February 25, 2024 5:34 PM

r203 I agree with pretty much everything you said. I think the talent is certainly out there, but production is not finding or casting the right people. They are casting too many "looks queens" who exist mostly on Instagram. Have you watched Canada's Drag Race? I really enjoyed the last few seasons. There's a scrappiness and energy I appreciate, it reminds me of earlier US seasons.

by Anonymousreply 216February 25, 2024 5:39 PM

It seems like a no-brainer that if you’re doing LuPone on snatch game, you’re working in increasingly bellicose attacks on Andrew Lloyd Webber as part of your answers, treat every time RuPaul addresses you as a chance to give aggrieved Tony Award acceptance speeches about the lack of respect you’ve been shown in your own lifetime as an artist and scream at the first person who brings out a cellphone.

The whole point of Megan McCain isn’t that she’s some firebrand alt right Blonde ideologue, it’s that she’s the dumb messy forever-sorority girl version of Will Ferrell’s Dubya. And, yes, you need to play her as “big”, the fact that she obviously a good time girl who orders queso and chips and a pitcher of margaritas after getting stood up is a key part of her vibe!

by Anonymousreply 217February 25, 2024 6:27 PM

I can’t tell if Plane would throw a mean fuck or be uptight sexually and not want to be touched.

by Anonymousreply 218February 25, 2024 6:38 PM

Plasma’s Patti was dismal. He wears the same wig for every look, too. At least get a bobbed wig is you’re going to play Patti. At this point, I wouldn’t begrudge Plane winning. He’s a lot more talented than the others, except for Sapphira, who I’d rather see win.

by Anonymousreply 219February 25, 2024 8:10 PM

I'm sick of the Rusicals

by Anonymousreply 220February 25, 2024 9:53 PM

James Brown was better than Plain Jane yet they all blew their loads on Plain. Ru clearly laughed more at James Brown.

by Anonymousreply 221February 25, 2024 11:41 PM

Q is nasty. When anyone criticizes her on Twitter she goes full Plane Jane, makes fun of their looks, and just burns them down unnecessarily.

by Anonymousreply 222February 26, 2024 12:38 AM
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