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Rosemary Clooney

Any lesbian rumours about her?

She was great friends with woman-lover Marlene Deitrich.

Her second husband Dante was obviously gay. She said on The Rosie O'Donnell Show in 1998 that she married him because she was tired of the grandkids asking her if he was her roommate.

I keep getting lez/bi vibes from her. Her smile, the way she moved, her kissing Rosie O'Donnell on the lips multiple times on her show.

I watched White Christmas for the first time yesterday and then watched some of her other performances and she just pings. Too bad she got fat.

by Anonymousreply 130December 26, 2023 2:32 PM

Dante ironed her gowns pre-performance when she was on the road. 'Nuff said.

by Anonymousreply 1December 3, 2023 7:13 PM

It runs in the Clooney family 🙄

by Anonymousreply 2December 3, 2023 8:03 PM

She's the mother of FBI Agent Albert

by Anonymousreply 3December 4, 2023 2:31 PM

I've been saying husband Dante was gay here for a decade, and Dataloungers always "defend" him as straight, LOL.

by Anonymousreply 4December 4, 2023 2:33 PM

Other than White Christmas, I don't really know much about her, though I do recall she talked about depression & mental illness before it was common.

by Anonymousreply 5December 4, 2023 2:57 PM

When she was hooked on speed and having a nervous breakdown in the late 60s, she apparently engaged in lots of indiscriminate sex with men.

by Anonymousreply 6December 4, 2023 6:06 PM

She was a scarlet woman.

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by Anonymousreply 7December 4, 2023 6:12 PM

R6, she was bi-polar.

by Anonymousreply 8December 4, 2023 6:30 PM

Clooney wrote in her autobiography that Dietrich would come over to her house, make her dinner and clean the floors. Given that Dietrich was a sex-crazed bisexual who had hundreds of lovers, I'm pretty sure she scrubed more than the floors at Clooney's house.

by Anonymousreply 9December 4, 2023 7:12 PM

^^scrubbed^^

by Anonymousreply 10December 4, 2023 7:14 PM

I enjoyed her duets with Debby Boone AND Debby Boone’s tribute album Reflections of Rosemary.

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by Anonymousreply 11December 4, 2023 7:21 PM

Dietrich referred to her female partners as "the sewing circle."

This is from a blog called "oh sewing circle"

“Marlene’s freewheeling attitude to sex has been much analysed since her death, particularly by her daughter Maria, who wrote a tell-all book about Marlene in the grand tradition of Christina Crawford’s Mommie Dearest – only Maria’s effort was dubbed Mommie Queerest. Maria revealed that Marlene used sex as a kind of weapon in her affairs with men – she didn’t actually care much for “it”. It was a way of controlling and manipulating them. With women it was different. Marlene actually enjoyed the sex, and the relationships were much more satisfying for her. Edith Piaf, Mercedes de Acosta (who also wooed and won Greta Garbo), Rosemary Clooney, the German singer Hildegard Knef and many others shared nights of passion with Dietrich."

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by Anonymousreply 12December 4, 2023 7:31 PM

Dot's nice...

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by Anonymousreply 13December 4, 2023 7:38 PM

I don’t think she could act on it if she was.

by Anonymousreply 14December 4, 2023 7:56 PM

She totally pings.

by Anonymousreply 15December 4, 2023 8:03 PM

Men are...

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by Anonymousreply 16December 4, 2023 8:28 PM

She always pinged as psychotic in some way

by Anonymousreply 17December 4, 2023 8:31 PM

One of my faves...

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by Anonymousreply 18December 4, 2023 8:36 PM

EXTRA value is what you GET ...

... when you buy CORONET!

by Anonymousreply 19December 4, 2023 8:51 PM

I wish Perry Como pinged.

by Anonymousreply 20December 4, 2023 9:01 PM

R12 "To call Marlene ‘lesbian’ would be to misrepresent her sexuality. To call her bisexual would also not be adequate. "

Why would calling her a bisexual not be adequate, if she was bisexual?

by Anonymousreply 21December 4, 2023 9:02 PM

R5 look for a crazy western musical called "Red Garters" on YouTube. She's very good in that.....very funny.

Rosemary Clooney, Doris Day, and the McGuire Sisters all had the same singing coach back in Cincinnati [at different times of course]. All of them credit Grace Raine with teaching them how to sing.

by Anonymousreply 22December 4, 2023 9:12 PM

A favorite.

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by Anonymousreply 23December 4, 2023 9:18 PM

A version from her later years:

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by Anonymousreply 24December 4, 2023 9:21 PM

She had a great voice. "When October Goes" is one of my favorites by hers

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by Anonymousreply 25December 4, 2023 9:23 PM

love and nuts and noodles

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by Anonymousreply 26December 4, 2023 9:23 PM

On her honeymoon with Jose Ferrer, he brought along his mistress and stashed her in a room in the same hotel.

by Anonymousreply 27December 4, 2023 9:25 PM

She was very close to Bobby Kennedy and his assassination in 1968 pushed her over the edge.

by Anonymousreply 28December 4, 2023 9:27 PM

The only detail I remember about her nervous breakdown was that she tried to run up a down escalator.

by Anonymousreply 29December 4, 2023 9:32 PM

So, we're not going to do her biggest hit of all?

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by Anonymousreply 30December 4, 2023 9:42 PM

I don't care much for her early pop hits, but I do love her American songbook recordings with Concord Records.

by Anonymousreply 31December 4, 2023 9:52 PM

She hated the novelty songs.

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by Anonymousreply 32December 4, 2023 9:53 PM
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by Anonymousreply 33December 4, 2023 9:55 PM

R27 Oooh, a threesome!

by Anonymousreply 34December 4, 2023 10:16 PM

^ Nah, she was a life-long Democrat 😉

by Anonymousreply 35December 4, 2023 10:18 PM

@r32, "She hated the novelty songs"

Bet she didn't hate the money

by Anonymousreply 36December 4, 2023 10:19 PM

Op is posting most of the replies. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 37December 4, 2023 10:23 PM

She had a crystal clear singing voice, you can make out every single lyric when she sang. Check out her albums singing the different composers' song books -- Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, etc. She really was a one-of-a-kind interpreter of American popular standards despite the many side trips her life took.

by Anonymousreply 38December 4, 2023 10:26 PM

This thread brought back some memories

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by Anonymousreply 39December 4, 2023 10:31 PM

R36, Sometimes when you're working for a well-known prick like Mitch Miller, money isn't everything.

by Anonymousreply 40December 4, 2023 11:11 PM

[quote]she was bi-polar.

Seems like she was only into the North Pole.

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by Anonymousreply 41December 4, 2023 11:26 PM

Say what you want, but that bitch knew how to wear a brooch...

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by Anonymousreply 42December 4, 2023 11:52 PM

But Mitch knew what sold as terrible as those songs were.

by Anonymousreply 43December 5, 2023 4:34 AM

She started out singing with her sister, Betty. This is from a later performance of a famous song from "White Christmas" (starts at 00:29)

by Anonymousreply 44December 5, 2023 5:15 AM

R42. I adore that number. The ass brooch, the magenta curtains, the chorus of gay boys. Rosie looks and sounds stunning.

by Anonymousreply 45December 5, 2023 5:21 AM

Trivia quiz: Who wrote the lyrics to her novelty hit "Come On-a My House?"

by Anonymousreply 46December 5, 2023 8:28 AM

William Saroyan

by Anonymousreply 47December 5, 2023 9:56 AM

I don't know of any lesbian rumors, but I always thought that she physically resembled pioneering transsexual Christine Jorgensen.

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by Anonymousreply 48December 5, 2023 10:55 AM

[quote]R42, I adore that number. The ass brooch, the magenta curtains, the chorus of gay boys.

Who include future "West Side Story" Oscar winner George Chakiris.

by Anonymousreply 49December 5, 2023 10:59 AM

Everyone is our family is exclusively heterosexual.

by Anonymousreply 50December 5, 2023 11:42 AM

R37, I posted 3 replies out of the 50 we had. That's not "most" of the replies. As I was waiting for some people to answer my questions about Roseamary's sexuality, I did a bit of online research and ended up finding the blog oh sewing circle.

by Anonymousreply 51December 5, 2023 12:00 PM

I remember her song Mambo Italiano from the film Married to the Mob. I think the rights to it are pretty restrictive because it wasn’t included in that film’s excellent soundtrack for release.

by Anonymousreply 52December 5, 2023 12:18 PM

Mitch Miller made me a star.

by Anonymousreply 53December 5, 2023 12:32 PM

r51 there is a troll who enjoys posting things like "OP replies to himself a lot" on threads. I consider it one of the most insidious forms of trolling: it seems like an innocuous observation, but because it's almost always untrue and it serves to undermine the thread and the OP. It also tends to put the OP of the thread on the defensive.

If you ever encounter this troll again, I suggest just ignoring him. He's looking for a response. Don't indulge him.

by Anonymousreply 54December 5, 2023 12:33 PM

Ugh, apologies for syntax errors in r54

by Anonymousreply 55December 5, 2023 12:36 PM

@54, You are right, blocked that asshole a long time ago

by Anonymousreply 56December 5, 2023 1:01 PM

George said years ago that when he first went out to L.A. and was staying with Aunt Rosemary she really put him to work doing hard labor around her house to earn his keep. She would take the family out to dinner and tell George "You stay here and paint the fence in the backyard while we are at dinner" or some other kind of labor. He was not included in family type things. It made me feel sorry for him back then and I thought it quite magnanimous of him to invite her to guest on ER when he hit it big.

Nowadays, I don't feel sorry for him and actually loathe him.

In answer to the question at hand, yes I got lesbian vibes from her even in her 1950s movies when she was all dolled up.

by Anonymousreply 57December 5, 2023 1:41 PM

The great talent in that film is Vera Ellen.

by Anonymousreply 58December 5, 2023 2:40 PM

R21, Marlene was bisexual but some people like to think she was pansexual or gender-queer non-binary because she sometimes liked to wear men's clothes. But Marlene was glamourous and feminine and she didn't look butch even wearing a tux. She was bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 59December 5, 2023 3:52 PM

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by Anonymousreply 60December 5, 2023 3:56 PM

She reminds me of a softer Rose Marie.

by Anonymousreply 61December 5, 2023 3:59 PM

R53 Hucka bejeepers!

by Anonymousreply 62December 5, 2023 4:06 PM

Here's the title tune to Red Garters that I mentioned earlier.

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by Anonymousreply 63December 5, 2023 4:08 PM

r63 see r7

by Anonymousreply 64December 5, 2023 4:13 PM

I don’t remember the exact story - Through the 1950s Rosemary had a million kids. Every time she had a baby, Bing Crosby would send her an elaborate floral arrangement to the hospital. ….. Fast forward 10 or 15 years. She had her major nervous breakdown and was hospitalized in the same hospital where she had all of her babies. While she was in deep depression a nurse brings in an enormous floral arrangement from Bing - the message on the card “I HOPE IT’S A BOY!”

by Anonymousreply 65December 5, 2023 4:35 PM

[quote]The great talent in that film is Vera Ellen.

Unlike Rosemary, Vera-Ellen's talents didn't include singing. She had to be dubbed.

by Anonymousreply 66December 5, 2023 5:40 PM

I hope the outraged folks in Florida and Arkansas are protesting the drag number in "White Christmas."

by Anonymousreply 67December 5, 2023 5:48 PM

As a kid I was always fascinated by that classic 50s page boy hairdo she wore in the 1950s. Very similar to June Allyson and my dear mother..

by Anonymousreply 68December 5, 2023 5:48 PM

[quote]I hope the outraged folks in Florida and Arkansas are protesting the drag number in "White Christmas."

The most halfhearted drag number ever filmed, but what else would one expect in 1954? I'm guessing that Danny Kaye enjoyed doing it more than Bing Crosby.

by Anonymousreply 69December 5, 2023 6:34 PM

R65 a million kids = 5 kids.

by Anonymousreply 70December 5, 2023 7:01 PM

Didn't she have 5 kids in 5 years?

by Anonymousreply 71December 5, 2023 7:04 PM

I think she was a great singer.

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by Anonymousreply 72December 5, 2023 7:10 PM

R72, That's not her.

But I agree, she was a great singer and unconventionally attractive. Beautiful smile and eyes and a sexy voice.

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by Anonymousreply 73December 5, 2023 8:05 PM

[quote]R72, That's not her.

That's Sondra Locke on the right as Rosemary Clooney with Penelope Milford as her sister Betty in "Rosie: The Rosemary Clooney Story," a 1982 made-for-TV movie.

by Anonymousreply 74December 5, 2023 10:48 PM

That dorky hairdo in White Christmas made her appropriately believable as the older, mother-hen sister. In real life, Rosie was only in her early 20s and Vera-Ellen her mid-30s.

by Anonymousreply 75December 6, 2023 6:15 AM

^ It was a movie and we're also suppose to believe that 51 year old Bing Crosby was her boyfriend 🙄

by Anonymousreply 76December 6, 2023 9:24 AM

Hardly unusual in Hollywood at that time, R76.

by Anonymousreply 77December 6, 2023 10:15 AM

^ Yes, that was my point

by Anonymousreply 78December 6, 2023 10:33 AM

I think they looked really good together - Rosemary and Bing. She always seemed older. Plus, in White Christmas they sort of jokingly presented her as a spinster………. Have you seen her ER episode recently? She is fantastic in it. Where she not only sings but can’t stop sobbing. It gives a glimpse as to how close to the surface her emotions were.

by Anonymousreply 79December 6, 2023 3:27 PM

Funny thing about White Christmas, I always thought old arrogant Bing was the weak link in that movie. Every scene he looks as though he was driving by the studio and just stopped in to read a couple of lines and sing a song. Then it was off to the golfcourse

by Anonymousreply 80December 6, 2023 5:31 PM

The whole movie is as dull as melted snow

by Anonymousreply 81December 6, 2023 6:30 PM

^ That calls for a song...

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by Anonymousreply 82December 6, 2023 6:47 PM

She said that whenever she felt the slightest bit sick, Marlene would show up with various exotic, powerful pills that her doctor had never heard of.

by Anonymousreply 83December 6, 2023 6:48 PM

^ I'll bet, that bitch had all the good dope 🤪

by Anonymousreply 84December 6, 2023 6:50 PM

[quote] Her smile, the way she moved, her kissing Rosie O'Donnell on the lips multiple times on her show.

tongue action?

by Anonymousreply 85December 6, 2023 6:56 PM

[quote]unconventionally attractive.

She was conventionally pretty.

by Anonymousreply 86December 6, 2023 6:59 PM

Yes, Jose Ferrer kept her knocked up and she had five kids, so lez or not something got in there and she was riding the D for at least a few years. She also had a long affair with Nelson Riddle, who named his daughter (by a different woman) Rosemary.

by Anonymousreply 87December 6, 2023 8:26 PM

She was also very good friends with Billie Holiday who was openly bisexual. Holiday was even god-mother to one of Clooney's daughters. Clooney recorded an album called Tribute To Billie Holiday.

by Anonymousreply 88December 6, 2023 8:34 PM

R87 You can ride the D and eat the P while sucking the Ts... all at the same time, my dear.

by Anonymousreply 89December 6, 2023 8:36 PM

She's Debby Boone's mother in law. My cousin graduated from Marymount HS in LA with Debby in the 70's and loved her, and she knew the Rosemary family. Debby wasn't Catholic but graduated from Marymount and Rosemary loved that.

by Anonymousreply 90December 6, 2023 8:55 PM

Yes I know Vera Ellen did not sing. She's still the best thing in the movie. There are some dud songs like Abraham, Snow and Choreography, which feel like they should be in another movie entirely. And the ridiculous sentimentality of the second half with Dean is so fake. But there are some terrific numbers and the second half has George Chakiris's great number.

by Anonymousreply 91December 7, 2023 12:10 PM

She was very underrated

by Anonymousreply 92December 7, 2023 12:20 PM

Interviewed by Diane Sawyer in 1992.

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by Anonymousreply 93December 7, 2023 2:53 PM

She was a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 94December 7, 2023 3:45 PM

Yaaaah! I knew she needed a shrink!

by Anonymousreply 95December 7, 2023 5:08 PM

^ Fun fact, old General Dean Jagger and young Private Bing Crosby were both 51 when they made White Christmas

by Anonymousreply 96December 7, 2023 5:20 PM

I was driving up to Lake Tahoe with my mother on a road that has seen many crashes. This was sometime in the 80's when she told me this. She loved anything Hollywood.

It was scary cause there were no barriers, it wound around, and off the edge you could go. It's a beautiful but treacherous drive.

My mother told me - she was raised in Carson City - that years ago Rosemary Clooney drove drunk on that road after a fight with Jose Ferrer. And that she was very lucky because she had a really bad crash, yet survived it.

I've gone on that drive a few times in my life. And I always remember that story.

by Anonymousreply 97December 7, 2023 5:46 PM

^ Rosemary Clooney said that crash occurred the night Bobby Kennedy was assassinated. She said she was so drunk she hardly remembers it

by Anonymousreply 98December 7, 2023 6:03 PM

She was also devastated by the sudden change of popular music tastes in the mid 50s. But people at her level of talent still had the older audiences who appreciated her kind of music so I'm not quite sure she was so affected by it. Peggy Lee, Garland, Crosby, Sinatra there were still audiences for them.

by Anonymousreply 99December 7, 2023 6:18 PM

Both Bing Crosby and Merv Griffin were instrumental in her comeback after her mental breakdown.

by Anonymousreply 100December 7, 2023 6:49 PM

He’s got a lova-ly bunch of coconuts …..^

by Anonymousreply 101December 8, 2023 9:03 PM

Merv touched me.

by Anonymousreply 102December 8, 2023 9:14 PM

R102 You're lucky that's all he did.

by Anonymousreply 103December 8, 2023 9:32 PM

I doubt anybody ever touched Arthur Treacher.

by Anonymousreply 104December 8, 2023 10:29 PM

[quote]R102, You're lucky that's all he did.

I'll say.

by Anonymousreply 105December 8, 2023 10:50 PM

José Ferrer has that look of "Don't touch my woman Marlene!"

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by Anonymousreply 106December 11, 2023 6:43 PM

I guess it was his talent that I was never impressed by but it amazes me that a man with Ferrer's looks got to be a womanizer.

I was at a talk with Donen and somebody asked him why Ferrer was cast as the lead in the all star MGM musical Deep in My Heart and Donen said because he was the biggest male star at that time.

by Anonymousreply 107December 11, 2023 8:51 PM

I vaguely remember some anecdote that when they were younger & spent holidays together, George & his father Nick used to like to play practical jokes, which Rosemary found annoying, so she'd go somewhere & hide from them. I'll bet that even in her post-crazy days, she was a hoot after a couple of gin & tonics & had some wild stories.

by Anonymousreply 108December 11, 2023 8:56 PM

She was right about practical jokes. Something wrong with people who enjoy them

by Anonymousreply 109December 12, 2023 10:41 AM

She was over 400lbs at the time of her death. Her casket required 10 pallbearers.

From Finadeath.com:

"George used to work for his aunt Rosie as an assistant/chauffeur. I remember him telling a story on some talk show about Martha Raye, and found this story online somewhere: When his aunt was touring as a singer in the New Four Girls Four with Martha Raye, Kay Starr and Helen O’Connell, he recalls Raye making him stop so she could, as Clooney says, “just stick out her leg to take a leak on the side of the road,” Clooney laughs, then adds, “Aunt Rosemary would say, ‘Don’t turn around, George, or you’ll learn too much about the aging process.'”

by Anonymousreply 110December 12, 2023 7:05 PM

^ I always loved that story.

by Anonymousreply 111December 12, 2023 8:09 PM

r91 is retarted.

by Anonymousreply 112December 12, 2023 8:11 PM

R110, There’s no way Rosemary weighed that much at the time of her death.

by Anonymousreply 113December 12, 2023 8:12 PM

R112 hates George Chakiris.

by Anonymousreply 114December 12, 2023 8:18 PM

Based on what, r114?

by Anonymousreply 115December 12, 2023 8:26 PM

So you called me retarded for loving Vera Ellen? You might want to explain yourself unless you just go around calling people retarded when you don't agree with them.

by Anonymousreply 116December 12, 2023 8:35 PM

This thread was created by an asshole

by Anonymousreply 117December 12, 2023 8:39 PM

[quote]There are some dud songs like Abraham, Snow and Choreography, which feel like they should be in another movie entirely. And the ridiculous sentimentality of the second half with Dean is so fake.

You, r116, are retarted.

by Anonymousreply 118December 12, 2023 9:12 PM

George Clooney is a nepo baby?

by Anonymousreply 119December 12, 2023 9:15 PM

[quote]So you called me retarded for loving Vera Ellen?

Siri, show me a comment you'd never see on an ESPN.com board

by Anonymousreply 120December 12, 2023 9:17 PM

[quoted]So you called me retarded for loving Vera Ellen?

You can't even spell her name right.

by Anonymousreply 121December 12, 2023 9:38 PM

Well you can't even spell retarded.

by Anonymousreply 122December 12, 2023 9:57 PM

Oh does the lack of a hyphen put your panties in a twist R121? The actual spelling is correct.

by Anonymousreply 123December 12, 2023 10:01 PM

Well there goes the thread.

by Anonymousreply 124December 13, 2023 3:52 PM

Eldergays and Elderlezzies, tell me what happened on the night Robert F. Kennedy was shot? Rosemary saw the whole thing and then lost her mind? Didn't she think he was still alive? Is that why she was sent to a mental hospital?

by Anonymousreply 125December 13, 2023 5:05 PM

Yes, Bobby walked in on Joe fucking Rosemary and that is why he had to go

by Anonymousreply 126December 13, 2023 9:40 PM

I hated how some of her hits had that weird “Adams Family” ‘60s TV series harpsichord backing instrumentation.

by Anonymousreply 127December 14, 2023 12:59 AM

All her hits were terrible. I know she hated them too. She must have had a rotten contract.

by Anonymousreply 128December 14, 2023 2:31 AM

She was also great friends with famous costume designer Edith Head who was a closeted lesbian. Rosemary's close circle of female friends included many lesbian and bisexual women.

by Anonymousreply 129December 26, 2023 12:56 PM

Marlene: "Hey Rosemary, wanna join my sewing circle?"

Rosemary: "Sure, what do you sew?"

Marlene: "Vagina Capes."

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