Swing-state Muslim leaders launch campaign to ‘abandon’ Biden in 2024

Didn't the Republicans just spend 20 years slaughtering Muslims?

[quote]a response to his handling of the Israel-Hamas conflict.

They do know his alternative would probably use American aircraft carriers to carpet bomb Gaza, right? Fucking geniuses.

Guess they forgot all about Trump's Muslim ban etc...R1.

Anyway, it says they're not out to endorse Trump, but by organizing against Biden, then that's just who they might get.

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

Someone needs to remind them about the Muslim ban and Iraq.

Do these fools think any rethug will be better for them or the Middle East?

They won’t help, they WILL elect Donald trump

What diversity hath wrought.

Dumbasses.

Rashida Tblob is probably giving them direction.

Fuck them. Trump's Muslim sounds good now.

Liberals are just as retarded as Republicans

There’s no one left but the moderate and indifferent, who are the only 2 sane groups left.

[QUOTE]Muslim leaders from several swing states on Saturday descended on Dearborn, Michigan, to launch a national campaign against the reelection of President Joe Biden

Something tells me their plane tickets were purchased with rubles.

That’ll teach ‘em! WTF makes them think that Trump would be better?

They’re still screaming Genocidal Joe in the US. It’s happening in the UK too with Labour.

So ignorant. If we elect more evangelical Christians and Muslims to office, our community is fucked. Neither one is to be trusted with our welfare.

When did Muslims start giving a shit about abortion? I know fundies only started caring in the 70s when being screaming racists began being frowned upon.

[quote]They'll help elect Trump if they're not careful.

You say this as if that's not the plan in the first place.

Do they realize that when they elect Trump, they'll be the first ones sent to the camps?

R4, Biden voted for the war on Iraq.

And then he got us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, R18.

R17 What camps?

2016-2020 proved Republicans don’t have any other real agenda besides trolling women, gays, trans, and black people.

They have no diabolical plan, they have no plans at all.

Very much reminds me of the assassination of Caesar. There was nothing planned after his assassination. They just wanted him dead. Anything that happened after came out of them not knowing what to do, which is one of the reasons they all lost.

R19, Only after thousands and thousands of civilians were killed. Biden is an evil motherfucker and has always been on the wrong side of history of everything from the wars to gay rights to everythkng.

This will work out very well for them.

MarketWatch: Trump wants to reimpose his travel ban that originally targeted seven Muslim-majority countries and expand it to “keep radical Islamic terrorists out of the country.” In the wake of the Hamas attack on Israel, he has pledged to put in place “ideological screening” for immigrants. His aim: bar “dangerous lunatics, haters, bigots, and maniacs,” as well as those who “empathize with radical Islamic terrorists and extremists.”

Good. But that doesn't go far enough. Kick them out the country.

[quote] Something tells me their plane tickets were purchased with rubles.

Those crafty Jews! They’re even able to get Muslims to act against their better judgement.

I will never vote for trump, but that is one thing I’d agree with him doing at this point r22.

We feel your pain, but that's a dumb, dumber and dumbest move, Muslims.

Muslims have more in common with MAGAs that either would care to admit.

Muslims are socially conservative and deeply illiberal. Natural bedfellows on laws that impact on women, gay people and religious freedom.

They’re worse than MAGA.

And someone was talking about Trump and sending Muslims to camps.

Please! If liberals go further with supporting Muslims, Democrats will have camps for Jews before Republicans make camps for Muslims.

If Muslims abandon Joe and we end up with Trump, I will be among the first that stand at the railroad stations, airport and entrances to our new concentration camps as GOP's jackbooted thugs (aka The Proud Boys, newly released from prison due to presidential pardons) move the Muslims down the gangplank to their deaths, shouting "Goodbye, Muslims!"

My post makes no sense. Rubles are Russian currency.

Never forget: DIVERSITY MAKES US STRONGER

Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Great plan. 👍

Just more proof that religious leaders are idiots. Trump campaigned on a Muslim ban in his 2016 run for president. If he gets elected in 2024, I can assure you he and his Republican supporters will pass laws to not just ban Muslims from entering, but the will begin deporting them

[quote] Trump wants to reimpose his travel ban that originally targeted seven Muslim-majority countries and

Who wants to bet Saudi Arabia, Dubai and Qatar are not on his list?

As voters we have a duty to ensure all politicians regardless of religion, follow the rules of separation of church and state. It's in writing. It's in the Constitution. It's time to start pushing back against these backwards Muslims and hardline Christians. The only thing we can do is stay frosty.

R21, Joe was the one who pushed Obama to endorse gay marriage in 2012 -- it was Obama who was slow to move on the issue.

They prefer dictatorships anyway. Feels like home to them.

2012: The Muslim Council of Britain secretary-general, Farooq Murad, said his organisation had strongly opposed gay marriage alongside other religions and was seeking an urgent meeting with culture secretary, Maria Miller, to express the concerns of many Muslims over the proposals.

Islam is more aligned with conservative Christian values, but not Trump's values. Maybe they don't see him, but the bigger picture. I imagine fundraising opportunities present themselves when an anti-Muslim President is in office.

Fucking them!!! Although I’m not surprised that centuries of inbreeding have rendered their brains useless, Muslims have far more to lose under a President Trump, Haley or DeSantis…and Joe Biden will go on to live his final years in comfort. Also, if it’s ever proven Muslims cost Biden in a few swing states, they’ll never be welcome amongst Democrats ever again.

[quote] Also, if it’s ever proven Muslims cost Biden in a few swing states, they’ll never be welcome amongst Democrats ever again.

If Biden loses in Michigan, that will probably happen with the moderate Democrats.

Rashida Tlaib has her days numbered.

Swing State Muslims would be a good name for a band.

What r26 said.

Anyone who is surprised by this is ignorant of what Islam is: a cult, just like Republicanism.

Why is OP shilling the musings of the certifiably insane Yashar Ali? Not saying he's wrong but better sources would make DL a better place.

[quote] Rashida Tlaib has her days numbered.

I'm hoping so. Can't stand her. I hope the PAC mentioned in this article along with their donors can help her get out of Congress.

Has Talia or Omar ever spoken out in support of the gay and lesbian community?

They no more care for their fellow Muslims than the Ayatollahs do. I guess if they want to go to an internment camp, vote for the Orange Turd.

So you're saying religious fundamentalists will end up voting conservative??????

Why I NEVER!

The bubbas here in Michigan don't know what to do. They hate Muslims, but Muslims are turning on Joe and Democrats, which is good, and they hate gays, which is awesome...but they're brown. So do they accept them now? Or are they still bad because being brown is worse than anything else? Such a dilemma. All this thinking is too much for bubba.

It's funny that they think we can direct the Israeli-Hamas war. Exactly who has been able to tell the Israelis what to do? It's out of our hands at this point.

Ha! None of those “Muslim leaders” were ever democrats in the first place! They’ve been dissing Biden for years.

Who’s been able to tell Hamas what to do? It’s out of hands at this point,

Who cares?

They frequently vote GOP anyway and there are far more Jewish voters.

Fuck 'em!

These "Cut off your nose to spite your face" types should go read up on something called "Project 2025" if they want to see what Trump and the GOP really have in store for them (and sadly, the rest of us).

Good luck.

Oh, and FUCK THEM.

[quote]R44: Anyone who is surprised by this is ignorant of what Islam is: a cult, just like Republicanism.

As others have pointed out on this thread, Muslims supporting Trump is highly counterintuitive, deeply against their own interests. This is less about the defects of Islam and more about the success of a coordinated, targeted online influence campaign - dezinformatsia - the same thing that helped Trump in 2016. The lessons of that election and that form of attack have evidently not been learned.

[quote]As others have pointed out on this thread, Muslims supporting Trump is highly counterintuitive, deeply against their own interests. This is less about the defects of Islam and more about the success of a coordinated, targeted online influence campaign - dezinformatsia - the same thing that helped Trump in 2016. The lessons of that election and that form of attack have evidently not been learned.

The Muslims discussing "abandon Biden" in the US and "abandon Labour" in the UK are not victims of a disinformation campaign. That's infantilising them and depriving them of agency. The racism of low expectations.

They're Muslims who are prioritising Palestinian issues over all domestic policy issues an prioritising Palestinian Muslims over Syrians, Iranians, Uyghurs, Somalis etc etc,

Maybe they’re “thinking” that they’ll get a free trip home outta Jabba the Trump?

Why does no one ever 'launch a campaign to abandon' Trump? People are whores, and will always gravitate toward the one with the most money.

My advice is get your finances, affairs, housing, etc. in order. Because if Trump (or DeSantis) takes over in 2024 he will have no idea how to fix a shaky, post-Covid economy. First up: a tax cut for the rich (maybe it will 'trickle-down' to The Common Man). Next: Obamacare is erased.

It's the Deplorables who will suffer most as their warehouse, factory, retail, restaurant, call center, etc. jobs dry-up. There will be miles-long waits at the food banks. Bankruptcies, evictions, repo's and foreclosures...

Of course they'll all blame Joe Bahhhdin. But he'll be laughing in retired comfort.

swing low, sweet chariot . . .

They are dumb as fuck. I hope they are interviewed the minute Trump comes back and decides to deport them all.

Also, it's easy to forget this, but prior to the Bush Administration, most Muslim Americans voted for Republicans, not Democrats. A large part of that is, no doubt, due to their "social values".

But it is amazing how the "social values" go out the window when the people you vote for hate you, discriminate against you, pass laws that make your lives harder, and treat you like the dirty, filthy sub-humans they think you are.

Muslims better wake up and realize that the enemy of my enemy is not my friend when it comes to their situation in America. The Israel-Hamas war will end, but Republican hatred for all brown skin will not.

Muslims who vote for Trump better plan on not having any overseas relatives visit for the the next four years. Trump's not letting them in.

LOCK US UP!!!

I'm glad this is all coming out. Sane people should have taken notice of how many of the more strict Muslim communities were rallying against gays just a few months ago (when conservative minded people all of a sudden had no problem with Muslims and sided with them).

R68, Yup. And the liberals responding to them only had shit to say about "protecting trans kids" completely ignoring the homophobia they were spewing.

Neither side is our friends.

Correct, R69. And then you had the more extreme people on the left calling people Islamophobic if they dared to call out the strict Muslim leaders on their homophobia. Make it make sense!!

Lol, so to punish Biden for his zionist mistake, they will vote for nasty islamophobes?

Got it!

They'll regret they didn't vote for Biden when the former guy/new guy herds them all into concentration camps.

Same situation in Canada. I guess they'd rather have a conservative government elected then.

These people who switch their votes to Republican based off of ONE issue is so ridiculous to me. They will ignore all of Biden's legislative accomplishments and the fact that he is NOT running on deporting them just because of Gaza? Dumb.

I wish that liberals could look at and learn from conservatives when it comes to electoral politics. Conservatives routinely hold their noses and vote for the conservative — even when they hate the majority of what they propose and espouse — because conservatives know that they will get NOTHING from the opposition even when they vote for liberals out of a principled stance. Just look at Trump: he is literally the embodiment of everything conservatives say they abhor, whether it is two divorces and adultery throughout his life, his blasphemous rhetoric, his criming... but they got their SCOTUS picks and that's all that matters

Trump has said out loud that if he's re-elected, he will reimpose his Muslim ban. He said that he would invoke the Insurrection Act on day one to quell demonstrations (meaning he will order the US military to fire real bullets at American citizens exercising their First Amendment right to peacefully protest). He's already used Nazi tactics of family separation and put human beings in cages, getting away with it because the victims have brown skin. It is not mere conjecture to see that Trump will order the military to round up Muslims (and hispanics, Blacks, gays, the disabled... as many minority groups as he wants) and put them in concentration camps before either deporting them to their deaths or killing them outright.

I've set the Godwin's law aside and come to the conclusion that Trump is our Hitler with the potential of being far, far worse than Hitler ever was. Hitler didn't have the technology to kill millions with the push of a single button. Hitler ruled a small country with a far small population; Trump's MAGAt followers dwarf the population of Germany in the 1930s, and they're angry, afraid, armed to the teeth, and are willing to throw everything that truly made America great out the window with nary a thought. And Hitler faced the Axis powers in alignment against him, whereas there is no axis without the USA to stand up against Trump.

R75, nailed it. The left is more prone to eating their own. You see this all over twitter and reddit. Look at how whiny many of the Gen Z left are about Biden (regarding everything--his age, "centrism", etc.). You don't see right-wingers do that with Trump. They tend to keep their criticisms close to their chest and vote for him regardless.

[quote]And Hitler faced the Axis powers in alignment against him,

Hitler WAS the "Axis powers". I agree with the gist of what you're saying, but get your history straight.

I guess they could always vote for Ron Desantis . . . 🙄

I’m sickened by this…. Trumpeters prefer every non white nonchristian people dead — so I guess they’re eager to get to those virgins in the sky …. What the hell is wrong with people ???

Of course I meant Allied powers, R77. I'm glad you agree with the gist, however. Thanks.

R76's take on left-leaning Gen Z whiners is spot on. Again, we have to look at how conservatives deal with issues as compared to liberals. Conservatives hold their noses and vote; liberals whine and stay home. And that's why we have someone like Trump wreaking havoc and working to bring the American way of life to a bloody, violent end.

For those of us who pay attention, it's devastating that the electorate is so evenly split when the reality is the country is really quite liberal, but the biggest block of voters is those who don't vote or at least don't vote regularly. The right sees this and after 50 years of telling us that government is the problem and there's no point in trying to fix it, they hold outsized power and do everything they can to ensure that government doesn't work (just look at the House, which has accomplished next to nothing since the Republicans took power) and don't even try to fix it.

And you'd think that people would look at how the country does under Democrats (prosperity, plentiful jobs, skillful management of the economy, social progress) as compared to Republicans (recession, job losses, never-ending tax cuts for the 1% at the expense of the 99%, and social regress complete with the rollback of fundamental rights) and vote for the party that does the best job for [italic]them.[/italic] But we get caught up in ridiculous right-wing bullshit like Hillary's emails or Joe Biden's age, never minding that there are far more egregious examples of the exact same activities coming from the right — whether it's that the Trump WH used non-government email accounts routinely and for everything, or the fact that Donald is only 3 years younger than Joe and in obviously far more advanced cognitive decline.

R77's criticism is rather on point, isn't it? I mean, he agrees with what I say and clearly understands the premise... but criticizes a slip of the tongue in confusing the WWII powers' names — and gets two WWs compared to a single (as of this writing) affirmation of what I wrote at R75. It rather proves my point as enhanced by R76's commentary: it's much easier to be a critic, complain and do nothing than accept our faults and work for progress.

R80, I could not agree more, regarding left wingers and right wingers. The country as a whole is nowhere near as divided as we would believe but these people who whine and choose not to vote becaue of "reasons" continously give Republicans and edge they shouldn't have. And that's just national politics, let's not even get started on state and local races where turnout is pathetically low.

The fucking reich wing media owned by the christofascist loons are the ones saying all of the bullshit and repeating it ad nauseum.

People buy that shit and stay home.

Get it right.

We need a fresh young face. I'm tired of voting for the "lesser of two evils".

[quote]The fucking reich wing media owned by the christofascist loons are the ones saying all of the bullshit and repeating it ad nauseum.

Like Medhi Hasan?

[quote]We need a fresh young face. I'm tired of voting for the "lesser of two evils".

Biden isn't an "evil", r83. He's accomplished amazing things these past three years. You aren't going to get a "fresh young face", grow up and join reality.

None of them voted for Biden in the first place.

These people who are "tired of voting for the lesser of two evils" are just practicing perfection politics. A mature adults deals with the hand they've been given.

So stay home, idiot Muslims.

Then watch Gaza get erased from the face of the earth from the damned concentration camps the thugs have sent you to.

And no one will give a fuck because it what you WANT. It’s what you’re VOTING FOR.

Seriously very stupid. I can't think of a more obvious "own goal" if Muslims either refuse to vote at all or protest vote GOP and Dump is elected as a consequence.

I googled and Muslim Americans make up 1.1% of the American populations so they're a very tiny minority. Jewish Americans account for 2.4% of the US population apparently.

Both groups less than we LGBT people who make up around 7.1% of the US population.

[quote]The country as a whole is nowhere near as divided as we would believe

Are you [bold]FUCKING KIDDING[/bold] R81????

Even the inhabitants who live in the galaxy next to ours can clearly see from there how deeply and immovably divided the US is. Like concrete. This division has been strenuously cultivated for the past 30+ years by various entities and it's very evident even on DL.

There's a Ceasefire and hopefully it will be permanent, these Muslims will change their minds and vote democrat once again.

They will vote for liberals if they know what's good for them.

Not many people are mentioning that the next president will likely replace Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito and maybe Sonia Sotomayor and John Roberts. The Supreme Court already went hard right because the ultra pure couldn’t vote for Trump’s opponent. Why not double down?

That’s cool. Imagine their surprise when Pres Trump Muslim bans them.

They’ll howl in the streets, then cry on TV when they can’t get any support.

Idiots! You vote for thugs or stay home because you’re butt hurt and you deserve it. Nobody is going to care how much you get kicked in the teeth when you’ve made it clear getting kicked in the teeth is WHAT YOU WANT!.

Palestinian American activist Lexi Zeidan: "We understand that no vote for a Democratic candidate is gonna be a vote for a Republican candidate and we are willing to take that risk. Maybe Trump will win, maybe Trump will get in office, and that, to open the eyes and ears of the rest of the public, to say, 'listen, it's gonna be short-term pain for these next four years, but Democrats will not win Michigan until Democrats are ready to back Palestine."

R 88 nailed it. Thread closed

R95, those people sound just like the idioitc, whiney Bernie supporters that refused to back Hillary in 2016 (not saying all Bernie supporters, but there was absolutely a big chunk of Bernie supporters that refused to back her). And let's not forget how that ended.

Idiots. They haven’t considered what a Republican President might have done to their terrorist brethren.

Their logic is off all around. First, they will be among those who feel the worst "short-term pain" under Trump. And I doubt very much that moderate Democrats will "back Palestine" if Muslim-Americans play a big part in reelecting Trump. Rather, I think there will be a big drop in Democratic support for the Muslim community.

[quote]Both groups less than we LGBT people who make up around 7.1% of the US population.

And we must consider the QUEERS who now make up 38% of the population!

[quote]Maybe Trump will win, maybe Trump will get in office, and that, to open the eyes and ears of the rest of the public,

We tried that in 2016 and the results were disastrous and horrendous. The people who just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Hillary, and worse, those that said we needed to elect an "outsider" like Trump (spoiler alert: he was not an outsider) to "shake things up" suffered the most. Specifically I'm pointing at suburban women who just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Hillary because: 1) women hate successful, smart women; 2) they listened to the Fox/GOP noise machine that told them Hillary was somehow untrustworthy because emails.

To wit, we had a working compromise on abortion but suburban women decided Hillary's emails were more important than their right to control their bodies, and as a result we have a SCOTUS that has sent the country back 50 years already and is gunning to set us back to the pre-Civil War era. R92's point about the SCOTUS appointments that are coming between 2025 and 2029 are major. We will either have a balanced Court if Biden is re-elected, or if Trump manages to win by hook or by crook, we'll have a 8-1 court that just hands everything to the 1% (and by everything, I mean the GOP is our to steal Social Security, shutter Medicare, slash all social safety net programs, destroy higher education, empower Nazis and fascists, and bring an end to our experiment in democracy).

If there is a single cogent argument that everyone should understand — particularly after Dobbs — it is the SCOTUS appointments coming in the next administration. I'll guarantee they're talking about it (and getting heaps of donations) from church pews every Sunday.

^^^^^

Wonderfully said 👏🏼👏🏼

Yahsar Ali is a clown.

𝐌𝐢𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐠𝐚𝐧 𝐌𝐮𝐬𝐥𝐢𝐦𝐬 𝐬𝐚𝐲 𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧 𝐜𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐢𝐠𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐰𝐞𝐥𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞

The planned Dearborn, Mich., get-together was part of a Biden campaign “listening tour,” according to the Detroit News, and was expected to involve Biden campaign manager Julie Chavez Rodriguez and roughly a dozen Muslim and Arab American elected officials, office holders and community leaders.

When word of the scheduled summit got out, Wayne County deputy executive and meeting coordinator Assad Turfe canceled it, because of community “outrage.”

“Unless something drastic happens, you have lost the Arab American and Muslim community,” Turfe told the outlet of the community’s feelings toward the 81-year-old president. “At this point, from what I can see, there’s no winning them over. That was the idea of the meeting.”

“Until there’s a cease-fire, the overall consensus in the community is they’re not welcome here, essentially,” he added.

Dearborn Mayor Abdullah H. Hammoud, a Democrat, said he was invited to attend the meeting but has no interest in speaking with Biden campaign officials until Israel’s military operations in Gaza are halted.

“The lives of Palestinians are not measured in poll numbers,” Hammoud wrote on X. “Their humanity demands action, not lip service. When elected officials view the atrocities in Gaza only as an electoral problem, they reduce our indescribable pain into a political calculation.”

“I will not entertain conversations about elections while we watch a live-streamed genocide backed by our government,” he added.

Good, they can start planning for mass deportations under Jabba the Trump. What morons.

Are there enough Muslims in any state to make any difference in an election?

There is of course the view that Muslim extremists disowning the Democrats will make a lot of moderates see that as a positive.

The far left and muslim groups have been attacking Keir Starmer and Labour for their identical position to the Democrats and they're on course for a landslide victory.

I’m going to cut off my nose to spite my face then howl and scream about how Joe Biden MADE ME DO IT!

[quote] Didn't the Republicans just spend 20 years slaughtering Muslims?

But it was worth it

I hate siding with the right wing, but I don’t want fundamentalist Muslims coming here and forcing their beliefs on me. Of course I hate when Christians do this too.

[quote]I hate siding with the right wing, but I don’t want fundamentalist Muslims coming here and forcing their beliefs on me. Of course I hate when Christians do this too.

Exactly. No party of politician should pander to any specific minority, especially religious minorities.

Muslims for Trump and LGBTQIA+ for Muslims. It's the new thing.

We're all gonna die.

It’s a no-win situation. Either appease the Jews or the Muslims.

R113 - there's double the amount of Jews in the US vs Muslims. And there's more Jews in swing states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida.

But I wonder what percentage of progressive voters under 40 are pro-Palestine? They could possibly make more of a difference than Muslims or Jews. And for that matter, isn't Bernie against Netanyahu and his right wing regime in Israel?

There is broad support for Israel in the US. There is most certainly NOT broad support for the hardcore Pro-Palestine nuts.

Beyond the fact - this election isn't going to tilt based on what is going on in Gaza.

Muslim leaders can piss up a tree.

No, R3 / OP, they knew it wasn't a muslim ban. They didn't fall for the msm bullshit. So many Democrats are manipulated so totally by the NYTs, WaPO, Rachel Maddow, etc. Yes, it happens on the right, but that's to be expected. So many Democrats believe we are the best, most compassionate and brightest, ain't true.

Frankly, we'd learn a lesson from what Europe is going through now. It is only going to get much worse.

[quote] A January Harvard Harris poll showed that 80 percent of voters backed Israel over Hamas, including 57 percent of 18- to 24-year-olds and 70 percent of 25- to 34-year-olds.

It would be idiotic for Biden to pander to Muslims. They aren't on the winning side of this issue.

It would be a little more illuminating for the poll to say what percent of Democratic-leaning voters back Israel over Palestine. It's not about supporting Hamas - it's supporting the victims in Gaza, whose plight is plastered on our screens 24-7.

These people do understand that Trump hates Muslims and would gladly turn Gaza into a parking lot using American aircraft carriers currently in the region, right? Not only that, he would surround himself with evangelical cooks who are salivating at the prospect of actively ushering in the Armageddon.

Cutting off the nose to spite the face. Of course, I suspect the real reason goes way beyond Gaza and has more to do with Biden's socially progressive policies and values.

*kooks, sorry

[quote] But I wonder what percentage of progressive voters under 40 are pro-Palestine?

99.9%. They’ve vowed to make “Genocide Joe” a one-termer.

Exciting times, honestly. It puts into perspective the big decisions being made over our heads: coalition strength vs securing capitalist interests abroad. Every choice carries consequences. It could be argued that capitalism needs a coalition to keep from spiraling out of control, but also that the coalition invariably needs capitalism to exist. Neither will fully win or lose; it's all in the murky gray. It makes for nice poetry.

[quote] It's not about supporting Hamas - it's supporting the victims in Gaza, whose plight is plastered on our screens 24-7.

Which means supporting Hamas. If you are obsessively seeing it on your screen 24/7, that’s on you. I don’t have cable and so no cable news, and I don’t see it on my screen 24/7. There’s a lot of foreign news stories every day and the daily events of Israel rooting out terrorism in Gaza is just one of them.

Can we wave goodbye when Trump deports them?

[quote] Can we wave goodbye when Trump deports them?

I think the busses and flights are going to be appropriately filled with people from south of the border. That exercise will take up the full term and then some.

This thread is a joke by faux liberals isn't it?

There are less than 4 million Muslims in the USA, probably only some 2.3 or 2.4 million of them care enough to vote.

Thinking that ALL of them are suddenly going to vote republican and be the cause that democratic party will possibly lose is pathetic.

Plus is not a secret that a lot of Muslims are conservative... Why are they suddenly being seen as the salvation of democrats?

WHITE FRAUS on the other hand may represent the difference between democrats winning or losing, given that there are more than 120 million of them if we count the White Hispanic crowd. And there shouldn't be so many of them willing to vote republican at any cost.

Gays also outnumber Muslim voters, but DL is full of log cabin queens and rightwing lesbians.

...aaaaand now the police have to step up and protect them from the hatred they're getting in response to a strongly worded CONSERVATIVE WSJ editorial...because of their own vitriol

[quote] These people do understand that Trump hates Muslims and would gladly turn Gaza into a parking lot using American aircraft carriers currently in the region, right?

No, they don't. They're irreparably stupid like the LGBT's for Palestinians.

WARREN, Michigan (AP) — President Joe Biden chatted with a friendly union crowd inside a United Auto Workers hall in Michigan on Thursday as pro-Palestinian demonstrators held back by police with riot shields voiced their anger nearby at the president’s full-throated support for Israel in its war with Hamas.

“Why not have a meaningful conversation for how you change course with a community that has first-hand accounts of what it’s like to live in the countries where your decision-making is unfolding?” said Abdullah Hammoud, the mayor of Dearborn, one of the largest Arab American communities in the nation.

The president’s motorcade bypassed them using side streets.

Protesters chanted “𝑯𝒆𝒚 𝑩𝒊𝒅𝒆𝒏, 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒅𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒔𝒂𝒚? 𝑾𝒆 𝒘𝒐𝒏’𝒕 𝒗𝒐𝒕𝒆 𝒐𝒏 𝑬𝒍𝒆𝒄𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑫𝒂𝒚” as well as pro-Palestinian slogans, including “Free, free Palestine.”

They are not going to achieve anything, given that a Republican president will STILL support Israel.

[quote] They're irreparably stupid like the LGBT's for Palestinians.

A better example of irreparably stupid would be people who use apostrophe s to try to form a plural.

I was taught to do the plural-apostrophe thing in English class in the 1970's. Honest Injun!

[quote]Liberals are just as retarded as Republicans

R10 are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that Muslims are liberals?

Because they aren't.

[quote] Muslims are liberals? Because they aren't.

Tell that to the liberal establishment who seem to have adopted them

Of fuck off R135. That hasn't happened.

From what I can tell - Liberals want the massive numbers of babies and children to stop being indiscriminately killed in Gaza by the IDF who go out of their way to kill and maim them as punishment for Hamas actions.

Do you advocate for thousands and thousands of dead babies and children R135? Does it turn you on? Does it make you salivate?

Neither party is a natural home for them. Muslims, like many other Americans, are more likely to be voting against someone or against a party than for someone. In this cycle, it appears that the Muslims of Michigan will vote against Biden and that may give Michigan to Trump. There’s no point in being completely unhinged about it. Biden doesn’t have to win Michigan to win the election and it's not like Michigan has never gone Republican before.

[quote]They'll help elect Trump if they're not careful.

They'll help elect cheeto if they're careful.

Fixed it for you.

Look at R135's posting history... A cunt MAGA.

R136, none of those poor dead Gazan babies would be dead now if it wasn't for what Hamas and hundreds of Palestinian "civilians" did on October 7th. Islam is a vile, violent, hateful mind virus that really should be wiped off the face of the earth. In the meantime, they should get 1,000 times in return all the shit they bring into the world.

R140 = blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

R141, it must be hell being so inarticulate and having the intellect of a 16 year old.

Wouldn’t it be neat-o if American “voters” voted on what’s happening in, I don’t know, the US, say?

What are Rashida Talib’s and Illan Omar’s stance on LGB rights?

[quote] What are Rashida Talib’s and Illan Omar’s stance on LGB rights?

Depends. Are they talking to the guests at a democratic fundraiser or to the congregation at a mosque?

So far the only immature people on the thread are the right-wingers.

Why did the "liberal establishment" (huh?) adopt Muslims?

Perhaps because they are the ONE AND ONLY non-xenophibic and non-islamophobe party.

And Michigan is permanently light blue.