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Violent anti-immigrant protests in Dublin

According to the Guardian

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by Anonymousreply 262December 4, 2023 12:20 AM

I'm guessing the perp was not a fenian then.

by Anonymousreply 1November 23, 2023 8:19 PM

An Algerian refugee it seems.

Strangely enough an former Irish ambassador was bigging up the small number of Jews in Ireland this week.

by Anonymousreply 2November 23, 2023 8:27 PM

Bloody hell, looks like an immigrant centre has been firebombed.

by Anonymousreply 3November 23, 2023 8:31 PM

Middle eastern immigrant stabbed with knife 5 and 6 year old children and their teacher. Seems that protesters were ordinary people who have enough of impotent government and police who are playing politically correct at citizen's expense. Of course that shills in media would call them "far right".

by Anonymousreply 4November 23, 2023 8:33 PM

WTF is happening?

by Anonymousreply 5November 23, 2023 8:44 PM

Allegedly an Algerian immigrant attacked small kids with the knife in front of the school. There are riots on the streets in Dublin. I read it on the social media of some people who live in Dublin. It has not been verified yet,

by Anonymousreply 6November 23, 2023 8:49 PM

Why would anyone immigrate to Ireland?

by Anonymousreply 7November 23, 2023 8:51 PM

Would you rather live in Ireland or Algeria, R7?

by Anonymousreply 8November 23, 2023 8:53 PM

Dublin, California or Dublin, Ohio?

by Anonymousreply 9November 23, 2023 8:58 PM

They don’t even know for certain that the guy did it. They want the police to hand him over so they can lynch him without a trial. Who the fuck do they think they are?

by Anonymousreply 10November 23, 2023 9:00 PM

These ”refugees” are dangerous.

by Anonymousreply 11November 23, 2023 9:00 PM

The young men on the small boats crossing the English channel don't seem that interested in heading to Fishguard and continuing their journey to Rosslare.

by Anonymousreply 12November 23, 2023 9:01 PM

The Algerian POS committed an RACIST ANTI-WHITE HATE CRIME. Make sure to use all their keywords so maybe they understand.

by Anonymousreply 13November 23, 2023 9:02 PM

Seems that the bystanders already had him, they caught him, disarmed him and kicked his ass. All allegedly of course. We should send R10 to the prison to console him and be his bride.

by Anonymousreply 14November 23, 2023 9:04 PM

R10 is probably one of those woke white gays who is so desperate to separate himself from the rednecks he grew up around so he supports anyone browner than an oatmeal raisin cookie, no matter what their offense. The HS quarterback called him a “fag” and the hot guy wouldn’t fuck him, now we all have to suffer living in a violent society with mongrels amongst us.

by Anonymousreply 15November 23, 2023 9:08 PM

Yesterday the Rainbow Crossing was allegedly hit by a terrorist attack.

by Anonymousreply 16November 23, 2023 9:08 PM

R15 nails it.

by Anonymousreply 17November 23, 2023 9:11 PM

A photo of the alleged attacker with a bloodied mouth has already got 17k likes on Twitter.

And there's a video of a man taking a burning cardboard box and putting it into the back of an (abandoned?) Gardaí car.

by Anonymousreply 18November 23, 2023 9:11 PM

R4 girl Algeria is not the Middle East. If he even does turn out to be Algerian.

by Anonymousreply 19November 23, 2023 9:12 PM

Buses set on fire, looting in the high street.

by Anonymousreply 20November 23, 2023 9:14 PM

All you need is for the Russian/Chinese hackers to infiltrate the local Facebook, rile-up the sheeple and the turmoil begins.

by Anonymousreply 21November 23, 2023 9:15 PM

R10, from what I heard bystanders wrestled the knife from him and sat on him to prevent more stabbings. It's not confirmed he is Algerian - people have run with this assumption.

The riots are, of course, egged on by the right. There are genuine problems caused by the influx of refugees given the housing crisis. The left, for the most part, refuses to engage with the hoi polloi, so they are easy pickings for the right.

by Anonymousreply 22November 23, 2023 9:15 PM

R21 kind of like the ones who say that you have to let a band of violent rapist religious extremists into your country or you’re racist?

by Anonymousreply 23November 23, 2023 9:17 PM

R21 thinks the Irish are too stupid to work themselves up into a riotous rage.

They really are an odd people - so convinced they are morally superior and who judge their own conduct by the English but still a deeply racist, misogynistic and sectarian country.

by Anonymousreply 24November 23, 2023 9:20 PM

Here is the source.

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by Anonymousreply 25November 23, 2023 9:20 PM

R22 not only the housing crisis.

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by Anonymousreply 26November 23, 2023 9:22 PM

Muslims love the gays!

by Anonymousreply 27November 23, 2023 9:23 PM

Woke Queer Irish Gangbang Bottoms for Algerian Immigrants!

Yaaasssss!!!!

by Anonymousreply 28November 23, 2023 9:24 PM

[quote] The Algerian POS committed an RACIST ANTI-WHITE HATE CRIME. Make sure to use all their keywords so maybe they understand.

How do you know the victims were all white?

Maybe he’s just some garden variety lunatic having a schizo episode. But why wait for the facts to come out when you can jump to conclusions which are never, ever wrong (Rainbow Bridge anyone)?

by Anonymousreply 29November 23, 2023 9:25 PM

I don’t believe mainstream media about protesters being far right. I have heard that it is just ordinary people being fed with their government bringing in potentially dangerous illegal immigrants.

Besides, why are riots for a criminal being murder by the police more legitimate than the ones for little children being stubbed due to institutional negligence.

by Anonymousreply 30November 23, 2023 9:26 PM

If it were a white Southern guy at a black school R30 would be calling for the death penalty.

by Anonymousreply 31November 23, 2023 9:26 PM

By r24's use of the word "fenian" in this thread (that word is a relic from history or used by bigots and racists, e.g. "Fenian bastard") I'm guessing there is some projection going on.

by Anonymousreply 32November 23, 2023 9:30 PM

R24 how are Irish racisT? They have never enslaved or discriminated against blacks or other POC. In fact they have been discriminated against by English for centuries. You are projecting your own moral debt on people who have nothing to do with exploiting blacks. It is not their guilt and they are not obliged to have this hypocrite unnatural American stance towards POC.

by Anonymousreply 33November 23, 2023 9:33 PM

I'm an impartial observer R32. I though fenian would be a joke that only a few people would get.

But yes, the Irish are a strange bunch. e.g. Ireland's abortion laws are so strict you'd think they voted for Trump yet the Irish think of themselves as liberal reformers.

by Anonymousreply 34November 23, 2023 9:35 PM

[quote] Ireland's abortion laws are so strict

They’re not strict at all in practice R34.

by Anonymousreply 35November 23, 2023 9:37 PM

R34 seems like you are bigoted anti Irish inventing shit

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by Anonymousreply 36November 23, 2023 9:38 PM

[quote][R24] how are Irish racisT? They have never enslaved or discriminated against blacks or other POC. In fact they have been discriminated against by English for centuries. You are projecting your own moral debt on people who have nothing to do with exploiting blacks. It is not their guilt and they are not obliged to have this hypocrite unnatural American stance towards POC.

Oh yes, the Irish in America NEVER exploited the slaves and profited from the trade did they! Not those lovely Irish folk!

And yes, Ireland does have issues with "foreigners" as is evident today.

by Anonymousreply 37November 23, 2023 9:40 PM

I have read on social media of a girl who is in Dublin that many young kids, even underage have joined the riots and are robbing stores. Seems like George Floyd riots.

by Anonymousreply 38November 23, 2023 9:40 PM

The leftist politicians are creating a fucked up future no one with common sense wants or needs. People have had enough of the bullshit and are stating their boundaries in no uncertain terms.

by Anonymousreply 39November 23, 2023 9:40 PM

R37 stupid, people in Dublin are not Americans, they are from Ireland

by Anonymousreply 40November 23, 2023 9:41 PM

From the Guardian article at R36

[quote]The scale of the victory makes it almost impossible for opponents to challenge the laws that the government must now pass, which are expected to allow abortion on request up to 12 weeks and under stricter conditions beyond that. Varadkar said he hoped legislation would be enacted by the end of the year.

Women in Ireland are STILL travelling to the UK for abortions as the laws are so strict.

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by Anonymousreply 41November 23, 2023 9:42 PM

R39 ireland has had a center right government for the last 20 years. You people could at least do minimal research before shitposting.

by Anonymousreply 42November 23, 2023 9:42 PM

Pop quiz!

Name 5 famous non white Irish people.

by Anonymousreply 43November 23, 2023 9:43 PM

Center right in Europe is the same shit as center "left", they are all just corporate shills and American foremen

by Anonymousreply 44November 23, 2023 9:44 PM

R43 not fair, they never had slaves nor colonies

by Anonymousreply 45November 23, 2023 9:45 PM

Ireland so white

by Anonymousreply 46November 23, 2023 9:48 PM

R43 Samantha Mumba, Ruth Negga, John Rocha, Simone Rocha, Phil Lynott.

by Anonymousreply 47November 23, 2023 9:48 PM

But Ireland is such a welcoming nation R45 - they have non white people wanting to go and live there.

Surely you know at least 2 non white famous Irish people?

CLUE: THE BLACK BRITNEY!

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by Anonymousreply 48November 23, 2023 9:51 PM

R43 gurlina, you are really stupid, but to be nice and help you not to make fool of yourself I will tell you. Countries who have large POC population often have it because of bad things that happened in past. You know keeping slaves, colonies. (OK to be honest, Arabs had colonies in Europe too)

by Anonymousreply 49November 23, 2023 9:53 PM

Fucking yikes.

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by Anonymousreply 50November 23, 2023 9:53 PM

Looks like kids are burning down the house in Dublin.

by Anonymousreply 51November 23, 2023 9:56 PM

Dublin

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by Anonymousreply 52November 23, 2023 9:59 PM

How topical

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by Anonymousreply 53November 23, 2023 10:03 PM

The youth wing of Sinn Fein have spoken

You do not speak for Ireland.

You have not one drop of patriotism in your body.

Ireland will not tolerate fascist thugs.

Our thoughts are with the families of the victims and front-line staff.

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by Anonymousreply 54November 23, 2023 10:12 PM

Politicians don’t speak for Ireland neither.

They can call people fascist all they want, but they can not stop the rebellion.

When blacks have the riots because one of their own had been attacked, is this right?

Why would Irish have to be cuks?

by Anonymousreply 55November 23, 2023 10:17 PM

Yes, this doesn't look like far right looting, it looks like standard looting

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by Anonymousreply 56November 23, 2023 10:36 PM

"In Canada as in France, in New Zealand as in Belgium or even in Ireland, Prime Ministers or Presidents have one thing in common: a decline in popularity with the electorate. But these leaders share another point in common. They are all “alumni” of the “Young Global Leaders” (YGL), from the program overseen by the World Economic Forum (WEF), which aims to select the leading leaders of tomorrow. While some are still in power like Justin Trudeau, Emmanuel Macron, or even Alexander De Croo, others have already given up their position, like Jacinda Ardern, sometimes to try to get back to business, as is the case of Leo Varadkar in Ireland..."

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by Anonymousreply 57November 23, 2023 10:36 PM

They are si ovah R57

by Anonymousreply 58November 23, 2023 10:49 PM

I meant so*

by Anonymousreply 59November 23, 2023 10:50 PM

Respect to Irish.

It is not about Islamophobia, but about stopping being cucks and defending your own. Blacks in US are having riots when cops shoot a black criminal, but Irish are supposed to allow illegal immigrants that are imported by corporations and their servants to start stabbing little children in front of nursery. Enough with this shit. And corporate media will call you right wing, screw them, they are right winger exploiters.

Besides, they are used too meek Germans and Swedes, but Irish used to have IRA.

by Anonymousreply 60November 23, 2023 11:01 PM

When the hell will Europeans admit they fucked up majorly by letting in all these people who have absolutely no desire to assimilate to the values of Western culture in? France has seen the worst of it so far, women are being sexually assaulted at insane rates by Muslim immigrants in places like Sweden, but “left” Europeans still ignore reality!

by Anonymousreply 61November 23, 2023 11:02 PM

It was politicians R61, the corporate servants that allowed greedflation, wage theft and housing crisis (because hedge funds were buying houses). They need cheap working force and divided society. But they will not last forever.

by Anonymousreply 62November 23, 2023 11:09 PM

I saw a pic of the alleged assailant, he looked pretty white to me. But now I can't find the tweet that had it.

by Anonymousreply 63November 23, 2023 11:14 PM

Maybe he was in whiteface

by Anonymousreply 64November 23, 2023 11:30 PM

This only further explains the victory of the hard right PPV Party in the Netherlands yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 65November 23, 2023 11:39 PM

THESE THINGS ARE NOT RELATED!!!

- the people who profit by these things

by Anonymousreply 66November 23, 2023 11:42 PM

Strummer wanted white riot

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by Anonymousreply 67November 23, 2023 11:58 PM

Are the immigrants in question Muslim?

by Anonymousreply 68November 24, 2023 12:01 AM

Here's photo of the attacker. Definitely doesn't look very Oirish.

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by Anonymousreply 69November 24, 2023 12:54 AM

But they were enslaved. Google the town of Baltimore.

by Anonymousreply 70November 24, 2023 1:01 AM

R42, no one is buying the word games anymore. Politicians have fucked their countries over with this immigration madness and it is all ideologically driven, certainly not from the right, asshole

by Anonymousreply 71November 24, 2023 1:36 AM

R71 girl what are you talking about. They’re a center right party. They self describe as that. Just because you say that they’re left wing doesn’t mean they are. You’re fucking deluded.

by Anonymousreply 72November 24, 2023 2:25 AM

^ no r16 that wasn't terrorist related. It was just a crazy accident.

by Anonymousreply 73November 24, 2023 2:59 AM

Hasn’t Ireland exported people to the entire globe for centuries.

by Anonymousreply 74November 24, 2023 3:13 AM

[quote]Blacks in US are having riots when cops shoot a black criminal, but Irish are supposed to allow illegal immigrants that are imported by corporations and their servants to start stabbing little children in front of nursery.

Moron.

When the police (the government) are killing you because of the color of your skin, you may well be driven to riot.

Are the police (the government) killing these dubliners because of the color of their skin, or their religion, or some other attribute? No. This was probably a deranged man.

There are almost 700 violent assaults in Dublin a year. Do these hooligans rampage every time there’s a violent assault? No. They did only this time, because the assailant is Algerian. So why do people riot only when Algerians commit assaults? I’ll leave that up to you to work out.

Meanwhile crime stats consistently show that immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than native born in most countries (it’s certainly true in the USA — criminality amongst immigrants is much lower).

by Anonymousreply 75November 24, 2023 3:22 AM

[quote]Meanwhile crime stats consistently show that immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than native born in most countries

Bullshit. Total bullshit. You know nothing about Europe. Zero.

Ilgiornale 17 Giugno 2022

"Ora, stando ai dati del Ministero della Giustizia, aggiornati al 31 maggio 2022, gli stranieri detenuti sono 17.136, su un totale di 57.067 persone in carcere: una percentuale che supera di poco il 30%, come conferma anche la criminologa Francesca Capozza, che parla di dati ufficiali “che non registrano quindi eventuali ulteriori coinvolgimenti non accertati”. Nelle grandi città, però, questa percentuale sale, tanto che, secondo quanto specificato a ilGiornale.it dall'assessore Riccardo De Corato, “a Milano oltre il 70% della popolazione carceraria di San Vittore è composta da immigrati”.

""Now, according to data from the Ministry of Justice, updated to 31 May 2022, foreigners detained are 17,136, out of a total of 57,067 people in prison: a percentage that just exceeds 30%, as also confirmed by the criminologist Francesca Capozza, which speaks of official data "which therefore does not record any further unascertained involvement". In large cities, however, this percentage rises, so much so that, as specified to ilGiornale.it by councilor Riccardo De Corato, "in Milan over 70 % of the San Vittore prison population is made up of immigrants".'

by Anonymousreply 76November 24, 2023 3:28 AM

Idiots like R75 sincerely believes that Swedish men woke up one day and decided to create mayhem.

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by Anonymousreply 77November 24, 2023 3:32 AM

[quote] Hasn’t Ireland exported people to the entire globe for centuries.

An Irish pub on the pacific island of Tuvalu that plays Enya all day isn’t colonisation, it’s cultural appropriation.

by Anonymousreply 78November 24, 2023 3:34 AM

Video from approx 8 weeks ago showing the arrival of the migrants being settled on the street of the stabbings.

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by Anonymousreply 79November 24, 2023 3:55 AM

R75 nobody buys your bullshit anymore. Blacks never have riots because of black on black crime, too.

They only do it when white kills blacks and anyway who says that cop kill blacks for skin color, they also do it out of fear or because of sadism and getting off on power. In this case it was probably also hate crime, the kids were attacked because they are Christians.

And you are a deranged person if you believe that a black criminal deserves empathy, but 5 years old kids don't. Screw you, asshole.

by Anonymousreply 80November 24, 2023 7:00 AM

Craziness. My grandparents old house is on that street.

The 'far right' labeling is bullshit. My guess is that Dubliners are more than aware of how London is now lost to random violence and that some are ready to step in to stop the spread in their city. The opportunistic vandalism and looting came later, because some people are just assholes who only need an excuse. The attacker was/is a naturalized Irish citizen but if racial tensions, that may not matter in the heat of the moment.

For the record, one of the people who stopped this rancid shit stain is Brazilian, so... good foreigner, bad foreigner.

by Anonymousreply 81November 24, 2023 10:20 AM

Two things can be true at the same time.

1. The far right are whipping up hate against migrants, exploiting the Grindr murders, Aisling Murphy’s murder and the stabbing yesterday.

2. A lot of the angry young men rioting and looting yesterday aren’t far right, they’re angry young men who have shit lives and see people getting something for free that they don’t deserve.

3. The attitude towards asylum seekers/migrants differs case by case. People welcomed Ukrainian refugees into their homes because it they were mostly women and children. The current crop of refugees arriving and housed in hotels are largely single young men which amplifies point 2.

by Anonymousreply 82November 24, 2023 11:34 AM

R82, you're over analyzing to fit your ideology. It is all very simple, people are tired of mass migration, specifically of muslims and people who are gaming the system and people's charity, they are also tired of being told constant lies about migration, and being called a racist or far right if any opposition to it is expressed. The ruling class has fucked things up tremendously, aided by a lying media. The people on the street know it, live it, and are no longer having it.

by Anonymousreply 83November 24, 2023 12:29 PM

So true R83.

by Anonymousreply 84November 24, 2023 1:55 PM

[quote]Police said they were not looking for anyone else involved in the knife attack and were “keeping an open mind” about any motive for the assault.

[quote]Ireland has a deep housing crisis, and dissatisfaction has fueled a backlash against refugees and asylum seekers, with critics saying that foreigners are receiving preferential treatment. Protesters have held rallies chanting “Ireland is full.”

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by Anonymousreply 85November 24, 2023 3:13 PM

Cute Brazilian immigrant.

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by Anonymousreply 86November 24, 2023 3:19 PM

^^^most important characteristic....not a muslim, or, at least, probably not.

by Anonymousreply 87November 24, 2023 3:32 PM

[QUOTE]Yes, this doesn't look like far right looting, it looks like standard looting

What's the difference between far right looting and standard looting?

What are the origins of the housing crisis.

by Anonymousreply 88November 24, 2023 3:32 PM

R88, I think it is similar to the difference between "mostly peaceful riots" and a typical riot.

by Anonymousreply 89November 24, 2023 3:41 PM

[quote]the hard right PPV Party

The Pay-Per-View party?

by Anonymousreply 90November 24, 2023 3:47 PM

[quote] What's the difference between far right looting and standard looting?

Thank you for making my point

by Anonymousreply 91November 24, 2023 3:52 PM

R86, exactly. Hero is most likely Catholic. He won't be waging jihad against the infidels.

by Anonymousreply 92November 24, 2023 4:14 PM

The far right anti Israel Corbyn defender doesn’t seem to like the Conservative Irish PM.

The smiling face of the globohomo elite's war on the Irish people.

This is Leo Yaradkar, the homosexual Hindu who had helped impose abortion, LGBTQ brainwashing AND #GreatReplacement immigration on Ireland.

I can understand that Muslims who follow me may have a knee-jerk tendency to see the #DublinRiots as an Irish version of the EDL, but they're not.

This is the opening phase in an Irish struggle against the same globohomo and Jewish supremacist tyranny that is genociding Gaza.

Our common enemies are as determined to expel every last Palestinian from Greater Israel as they are to use mass immigration (from countries they've helped ruin) to destroy Christendom and all of its ancient nations. Two sides of the same coin.

That doesn't make us 'friends', but it makes us natural allies. And it means we must sort out our grievances through honest discussion, not the mindless violence into which the Zionists want to plunge us.

From the mountains to the sea, Ireland and Britain shall be free! #FreePalestine #KalergiPlan

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by Anonymousreply 93November 24, 2023 4:57 PM

[quote] the #DublinRiots as an Irish version of the EDL

What’s the EDL

by Anonymousreply 94November 24, 2023 5:04 PM

EDL is English Defence League, a far right anti immigrant anti Islam movement.

by Anonymousreply 95November 24, 2023 5:57 PM

Calling someone "far right" is becoming as meaningless as calling them "racist"

by Anonymousreply 96November 24, 2023 5:59 PM

You have a population of Medieval, chaos-inducing religious fanatics who are openly hostile to their host culture, refuse to assimilate and consider every non-Muslim female to be an infidel whore and therefore it's okay to rape them. And they suck up tons of benefits.

And people wonder why the native populations have had enough and doesn't want these people in their countries anymore.

I've said this before but if Muslims were lily white Anglo Saxons the Left in Western nations would have no time for their bullshit and openly mock them, as they (rightfully do) with Evangelical Christians, who are also batshit lunatics.

by Anonymousreply 97November 24, 2023 6:03 PM

Buncha drunken thugs blaming immigrants for all their problems. Muslims are only 1.5% of the population btw.

The only reason Ireland 's GDP is high is due to the tax shelters they provide companies like Apple which result in little economic activity--the weirdness is called Leprechaun economics. Asset inflation in the housing sector is the main reason average household income isn't in the toilet.

Ireland was such a shithole for so long, everyone who could emigrated, mostly to America where Irish thugs would beat up my Finnish grandfather and anyone else who didn't speak English on the docks of Duluth Minnesota. The perp in this case sounds mentally ill, which should elicit some empathy from people who are delusionally proud of their alcoholism, mysogyny, ignorance, history of brutality towards children, tolerance of corruption and fascist strain of Catholicism.

by Anonymousreply 98November 24, 2023 6:04 PM

Political terms are misused frequently.

A lot of people dismissed as liberals are as far from liberal as possible.

People called progressive have regressive poltiics.

And yes far right is misused. People calling Boris Johnson or Liz Truss far right are absolute loons and have no understanding of the term. They're arseholes but not far right.

by Anonymousreply 99November 24, 2023 6:07 PM

Where do we donate to the EDF?

by Anonymousreply 100November 24, 2023 6:14 PM

r7 because the Irish produced the likes of Jamie Dornan. While he's North Irish, it proves that island can produce some hot, uncut, hunks.

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by Anonymousreply 101November 24, 2023 6:14 PM

I see Ian Paisley is posting at R98.

by Anonymousreply 102November 24, 2023 6:23 PM

r98 if you're Finnish you really can't talk about alcoholism or thuggery.

by Anonymousreply 103November 24, 2023 6:24 PM

Holy shit Finns are some of the biggest drunks in Europe.

by Anonymousreply 104November 24, 2023 6:25 PM

[quote]fascist strain of Catholicism.

Ireland is a very secular nation now. The Catholic Church has little power anymore. Modern Irish are quite progressive in their thinking.

Of course this being Datalounge, it's not surprising at all that posters here think Ireland hasn't changed since 1960. And that Irish Americans also haven't changed in that time, as well.

by Anonymousreply 105November 24, 2023 6:28 PM

Woke queer faggy bottom here presenting hole for brown cock! This'll show daddy! And the neighbours!

by Anonymousreply 106November 24, 2023 6:28 PM

r98 Duluth Minnesota looks charmingly depressing. A place a gay man would hate to grow up in, but a good spot for a rough and tumble norther European immigrant. If he was cute, I would have blown your grandfather, and his bullies, under the dock.

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by Anonymousreply 107November 24, 2023 6:30 PM

Thank you, R105. Ireland today is better educated, urbanized, and more cosmopolitan...facts that are lost on a great many. The relevancy of the Catholic Church in Ireland has plummeted in the last twenty or so years.

According to accounts from legitimate sources most of the rioters were in their late teens and early twenties riled up by the far-right and misinformation on social media platforms.

by Anonymousreply 108November 24, 2023 6:39 PM

[quote]Ireland is a very secular nation now. The Catholic Church has little power anymore. Modern Irish are quite progressive in their thinking.

However, the notion that Ireland is now home to a progressive consensus is a sheer fantasy, as the 33 per cent of voters who opposed the liberalisation of abortion laws, and the 38 per cent of voters who opposed the legalisation of same-sex marriage, would surely attest. Ireland is in fact a profoundly divided society, and is likely to remain so for a very long time, no matter how many avant-garde referendums we manage to push through.

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by Anonymousreply 109November 24, 2023 6:40 PM

I've been there, R107, I actually liked it quite a bit. Very nice place, especially for a smaller town, and it's surprisingly gay friendly.

by Anonymousreply 110November 24, 2023 6:44 PM

And now your Finnish ancestors are being beat up by muslims in their own country, R98. Be grateful you're not Swedish. Muslims immigrants are quickly turning Sweden into an islamic shithole and war zone, but I'm sure you are completely OK with that.

by Anonymousreply 111November 24, 2023 6:46 PM

[quote] 33 per cent of voters who opposed the liberalisation of abortion laws, and the 38 per cent of voters who opposed the legalisation of same-sex marriage, would surely attest

The 62% who voted in favour of marriage equality and 67% of people that voted in favour of liberalizing the abortion laws disagree with that. It was viewed as a massive emphatic victory on both counts…and flipping the numbers doesn’t really show what you’re trying to show. In Dublin FYI those voting in favour of marriage equality tipped 70%.

by Anonymousreply 112November 24, 2023 6:47 PM

No, R108, they're fed up with mass immigration and all the bullshit it is bringing, as all of Europe is fed up with all the bullshit and lies.

by Anonymousreply 113November 24, 2023 6:49 PM

So even though the attacker is Algerian, it's being classed as 'fake news' because on a technicality he does have Irish citizenship.

No wonder some people are pissed off. Simply wanting the truth for this story doesn't make you a right winger. But the media are playing all sorts of verbal contortions to avoid stating he was an immigrant, regardless of how long he's been in the country.

by Anonymousreply 114November 24, 2023 6:54 PM

The idea that a country can be considered progressive because they have some of the strictest abortion laws in Europe that were introduced by referendum 10 years ago shows people have a really low opinion of Ireland.

When Ireland prosecutes the people responsible for selling babies and throwing their corpses into water tanks, then it can move forward from its past. In fact when it removes the babies bones from the water tanks and gives the skeletons burials after DNA tests, then it can be considered progressive.

by Anonymousreply 115November 24, 2023 6:59 PM

R115 it was in 2018.

The Irish governments unfortunate attitude to prosecutions for the church for what they did does not reflect your everyday Irish persons’ views on it.

by Anonymousreply 116November 24, 2023 7:03 PM

"When Ireland prosecutes the people responsible for selling babies and throwing their corpses into water tanks, then it can move forward from its past. In fact when it removes the babies bones from the water tanks and gives the skeletons burials after DNA tests, then it can be considered progressive".

Horrifying to think of, but true.

by Anonymousreply 117November 24, 2023 7:05 PM

R108 Bonnie, you are filled with misinformation from corporate media, young working class men are surprisingly well informed. They get real information on social media, there are fakes too, but they know all about Blackrock and Vanguard, greedy corrupted politicians of both right snd left center, they lough at identity politics. These kids are not stupid.

by Anonymousreply 118November 24, 2023 7:06 PM

So what that the colonizer who stabbed those children had Irish citizenship. The younger Boston Marathon islamic terror bomber became a US citizen on 9/11 the previous year. I'm not sure about his brother and can't bother checking. I do know the older islamic terrorist was a devout muslim. The islamic terrorist who murdered 49 people and injured 53 others in the Pulse nightclub was born in the US.

It would be interesting to see a list of all the nationalities of all the muslim perpetrators of the unbelievable number of islamic terror attacks in Europe and the US, forget about including all the violent crimes and rapes, those are way too numerous to count.

by Anonymousreply 119November 24, 2023 7:08 PM

The quoting troll needs to die or go back to an old school message board.

by Anonymousreply 120November 24, 2023 7:08 PM

R103 R104 Finnish alcoholism rates are about level with other European countries. Finland taxes alcohol heavily so Finns tend to travel to the Baltics to binge, giving the impression they are all drunks. Sweden has higher rates of alcoholism. Most Finns aren't thugs, and I didn't say most Irish are thugs.

by Anonymousreply 121November 24, 2023 7:09 PM

The rioters were feral scum. This was an excuse to trash the city and do some robbing. They give zero fucks about the victims of the stabbing and less of a fuck about where the attacker was from.

It's mindless thuggery, but some would love to dress this up as far right ideologies taking hold.

by Anonymousreply 122November 24, 2023 7:09 PM

[quote] So even though the attacker is Algerian, it's being classed as 'fake news' because on a technicality he does have Irish citizenship.

How is this reality a technicality? If you want to compare this person to people who have just immigrated, it wouldn’t be a good comparison, this person lived in Ireland for 10years (I think on what’s been reported) and has completed Irish citizenship. That’s a significant difference from someone that has just arrived in the country and has no legal status in terms of voting, working etc. Also who’s dismissing this as ‘fake news’? And what are they saying is ‘fake’ about it? Genuine question, do you have any examples? I’m not entirely sure what you’re getting at.

by Anonymousreply 123November 24, 2023 7:09 PM

He's a Muslim R123, but the media want to suppress that. The same as the guy in Sligo who beheaded two gay men. And the guy who stabbed a teacher to death. There will be much hand-wringing about how these attackers were failed. How Western society is to blame for their behaviour, etc ad nauseum.

by Anonymousreply 124November 24, 2023 7:11 PM

r109 those numbers are pretty standard for a lot of Western nations, including the US. These countries as a whole are still quite progressive.

by Anonymousreply 125November 24, 2023 7:14 PM

r121 Finns are huge drunks.

by Anonymousreply 126November 24, 2023 7:16 PM

R124 - the man who murdered teacher Aisling Murphy was NOT a Muslim.

He was an immigrant from Slovakia who lived in Ireland through freedom of movement.

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by Anonymousreply 127November 24, 2023 7:17 PM

Get that scum out of Western countries. Even when they're not being violent they expect everything and everyone to conform to their insane beliefs.

by Anonymousreply 128November 24, 2023 7:22 PM

Richard Nixon, of all people, said that the great conflict of the 21st Century would be the West vs. Islam.

by Anonymousreply 129November 24, 2023 7:23 PM

My professors in college in the mid 90s loathed Richard Nixon as if he were still the president at that time

by Anonymousreply 130November 24, 2023 7:25 PM

R124 the media doesn’t report on most people’s religion that commit assaults in ireland. You never hear whether a person is catholic if they’ve committed an assault, unless it’s significant to the assault itself in some way, in the case of attacks in N Ireland for example, where they would mention if it was an attack based on sectarian motives. I’m sure if this guy had shouted Allahu Akbar before attacking the children we would have heard that from various interviews with people on the scene, but it doesn’t seem like that was the case. Did you watch the interview with the Brazilian immigrant that stopped the attack?

by Anonymousreply 131November 24, 2023 7:26 PM

Did you notice R131, that the majority, if not all the stories about the Brazilian immigrant made sure to mention his nationality?

by Anonymousreply 132November 24, 2023 7:28 PM

[quote] They don’t even know for certain that the guy did it. They want the police to hand him over so they can lynch him without a trial. Who the fuck do they think they are?

Typical Irish Klan mentality.

Where do you think the American Ku Klux Klan originated from?

[quote] Buncha drunken thugs blaming immigrants for all their problems. Muslims are only 1.5% of the population btw.

This is exactly what the wealthy 1% ers want.

They totally distract the sheeple with race baiting and other distractions, while they completely steal your money and become richer.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Blame immigrants instead!

by Anonymousreply 133November 24, 2023 7:33 PM

R132 yes, although with a name like Caio it wouldn’t take much guessing. In ireland, the media does not report on the identity of people in custody until they have been charged. If that’s what you’re getting at. Idk, has the attacked been formally charged yet?

by Anonymousreply 134November 24, 2023 7:36 PM

[quote][R132] yes, although with a name like Caio it wouldn’t take much guessing. In ireland, the media does not report on the identity of people in custody until they have been charged. If that’s what you’re getting at. Idk, has the attacked been formally charged yet?

Caio Fitzgerald-O'Murphy was in the original line up of Westlife until he fell of a ladder doing his uncle's window cleaning round and was replaced by Kian Egan.

by Anonymousreply 135November 24, 2023 7:41 PM

R135 😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 136November 24, 2023 7:42 PM

Accumulated over 10 years, Dutch police release crime statistics by country of origin (at link)

Some highlights-

Individuals from 'non-Western' immigration background make up 14% of the population in the Netherlands. However, they account for a large portion of those implicated: 🔞 Sexual offenses: ~35% 🔪 Assaults: ~40% 💉 Drug offences: ~40% 👊 Violent thefts: ~60%

Populations from Africa or the Middle East tend to exhibit rates 2 to 4 times higher than those of 'native' Dutch!

The suspect rates for populations of Maghrebi origin are even 5 times higher than those of Dutch who have no migratory background. 👉 In contrast, populations originating from East Asia exhibit rates similar to those of 'native' Dutch

In the Netherlands, more than two-thirds of men of Moroccan origin have been suspected of a crime or offence before the age of 30. Recidivism rates are equally alarming. 👉 40% of individuals of Moroccan origin commit new offense(s) within 6 years, which is twice as much as 'native' Dutch individuals.

👉 The suspect rate for violent thefts among individuals of Antillean origin is more than 15 times higher than that of 'native' Dutch individuals!

👉 Proportionally, Moroccans and Antilleans are implicated 5 times and 7 times more, respectively, than 'native' Dutch individuals in assault related offences.

The Netherlands are plagued by drug trafficking. The powerful Moroccan Mocro Mafia has assassinated journalists and lawyers, and even carried out rocket launcher attacks against media HQs. 👉 Not surprisingly, the suspect rate of Moroccans in drug-related cases is alarming ⬇️

Moroccans are significantly over represented in offenses related to driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. The implementation of religious principles appears to be somewhat relative at times.

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by Anonymousreply 137November 24, 2023 7:42 PM

Those stats are LIES

by Anonymousreply 138November 24, 2023 7:45 PM

The right-wing racist Hitleristas are furiously masturbating to this thread.

In the past, I would have said that Datalounge has been infiltrated by right-wing racists.

But having seen evil gay people like Aaron Schock, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Matt Gaetz, George Santos, Peter Thiel and all the other right-wing evil gays, this thread and the bile spewed in it is much less surprising nowdays.

Gays can be just as right-wing and hateful as straight people.

And it's quite evident here.

by Anonymousreply 139November 24, 2023 7:47 PM

[quote]Gays can be just as right-wing and hateful as straight people.

2 years ago there were a spate of homophobic attacks in Britain.

Do you know who was blamed in the media? JAY KAY FUCKING ROWLING because her radical feminist ways had made LGBT people feel literally unsafe.

Do you know who was charged for the assaults? Young British Muslims.

by Anonymousreply 140November 24, 2023 7:55 PM

And the way to stop the far right exploiting crimes committed by immigrants is to acknowledge there are tensions which a lot of people in the centre and left refuse to do.

by Anonymousreply 141November 24, 2023 8:01 PM

R139 Believes that citing statistics is .....RACIST!

by Anonymousreply 142November 24, 2023 8:07 PM

[quote] And now your Finnish ancestors are being beat up by muslims in their own country, [R98]. Be grateful you're not Swedish.

No they're not. And Finns have always been grateful they're not Swedish.

by Anonymousreply 143November 24, 2023 8:18 PM

Finland too

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by Anonymousreply 144November 24, 2023 8:25 PM

R133 you stupid uneducated boypussy.

Why don’t you read something before typing stupidities. You know who was the second most loathed minority by the Klan after blacks. The Catholics. And guess who is Catholic. The Irish.

But you don’t care about the facts you are just bigoted and hateful against Irish.

And no, big business doesn’t want to turn you against the Muslim immigrants, at least not yet. Big business through their media shills are grooming sheep like you into shaming people for not being cucks, because they need immigrants to lower the wages and worker’s rights. That is why the true left and unions have always been skeptical towards mass migration and the capital has always been bringing cheap working force.

by Anonymousreply 145November 24, 2023 8:51 PM

I’m always confused when immigration is seen as purely a right wing issue. I understand that racism can be involved but in the past socialist labor unions opposed it for economic reasons.

It is not smart for progressives to turn it into a hill they will die on. But I understanding calling people Islamophobes and racists is fun.

by Anonymousreply 146November 24, 2023 9:02 PM

[quote]That is why the true left and unions have always been skeptical towards mass migration

What European left wing parties that are in power are "skeptical towards mass migration"?

by Anonymousreply 147November 24, 2023 9:03 PM

[quote]You know who was the second most loathed minority by the Klan after blacks. The Catholics. And guess who is Catholic. The Irish.

Who did the KKK hate more - jews or catholics?

by Anonymousreply 148November 24, 2023 9:04 PM

^^^the Coloreds.

by Anonymousreply 149November 24, 2023 9:07 PM

Why relive racism and anti Semitism from 100 years ago. It’s a different world now where people can hate each other for new and exciting reasons.

by Anonymousreply 150November 24, 2023 9:09 PM

R147 Have you noticed that I have stressed the true left. Not the identity "left" neoliberals.

But in Germany there is representative Sahra Wagenknecht, former Die Linke who has now formed a new party.

She already has 20% supports in polls.

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by Anonymousreply 151November 24, 2023 9:12 PM

Avrillé France: Maghrebi family with 11 kids complains about their unsanitary apartment in public housing

In one year, the family grew. A little boy was born in September 2023. Lamhamdi parents, Kalid and Fadila, now have eleven children. In one year, the condition of the accommodation they occupy, avenue Maurice-Mailfert in Avrillé, has deteriorated further. The traces of humidity and mold, which we noted at the beginning of December 2022, have also increased.

They cover an increasingly large surface area on the ceilings of children's bedrooms. Samples were taken and analyzed by the environment & health center of the Angers University Hospital: these molds, a sort of blackish filth, harbor three toxic fungi. This has consequences on the health of members of the Lamhamdi family. Their children range in age from two months to 15 years old. Five of them suffer from allergies: itchy eyes, sneezing, dermatological problems. An allergist examined them and made a definitive finding. (…)

In conjunction with the ARS, the prefecture of Maine-et-Loire has issued an order aimed at addressing unsanitary housing. (…)

The rental charges, which remain his responsibility, mainly heating and hot water, are currently unpaid and, to our knowledge, neither of the two adults has a stable job. (…)

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by Anonymousreply 152November 24, 2023 9:14 PM

[quote]What European left wing parties that are in power are "skeptical towards mass migration"?

In Europe there's a difference between free movement of people and mass migration.

Len McCluskey, the second most influential man in British politics over the last 20 years ran the Unite union and supported Brexit and wanted free movement of people to end. As did Jeremy Corbyn.

In France Jean Luc Melenchon wants major EU reforms.

And when it comes to mass migration there are tensions about bringing in "unskilled" migrants to do essential jobs that white Europeans don't want to do.

by Anonymousreply 153November 24, 2023 9:17 PM

R147 this is clearly written by a corporate shill, but it answers your question:

"We find that a surprisingly large share of those who identify as far left do express extremely xenophobic attitudes, socioeconomic status influences far left xenophobia more than far right xenophobia"

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by Anonymousreply 154November 24, 2023 9:34 PM

[QUOTE]What's the difference between far right looting and standard looting?

[QUOTE]Thank you for making my point

That you revel in being purposely obtuse?

by Anonymousreply 155November 24, 2023 9:51 PM

I never understood why you would burn down and destroy your own city, in protest of something.

It seems counter-productive, and just dumb.

If you're protesting government policies, then burn down the fucking government.

by Anonymousreply 156November 25, 2023 12:52 AM

[quote]this is clearly written by a corporate shill, but it answers your question:

No, it does not answer my question. My question is: "What European left wing parties ....that are in power .....are "skeptical towards mass migration"?"

And furthermore, what policies have they implemented to limit/stop the flow of migrants.

by Anonymousreply 157November 25, 2023 1:00 AM

Left wing parties are not in power in Europe, Europe is ruled by center, center left or liberals and center right. They are practicly the same, they work for big business, banks, corporations in general. They are all pro immigration, I beleive cause the capital is hungry for cheap working force. The only difference is some identity politics, which are not even serious, cener right tries to appeal to older and religious people pretending to be more traditional (though they are not anti lgbt or anti abortion, but they avoid to mention these topics). Cener left tries to appeal to elites and more educated, they use some woke rhetorics, though sometimes when it comes to worker's rights they are more on the right than the center right. Merkel who demochristian was correcting some austerity measures introducad by so called social democrats.

by Anonymousreply 158November 25, 2023 1:50 AM

Left parties, I mean real left, exist but they are mostly marginalized.

by Anonymousreply 159November 25, 2023 1:52 AM

Slavoj Žižek use to call these centrists, both left and right (they are similar to your Democrats)- extreme center.

by Anonymousreply 160November 25, 2023 1:55 AM

[quote]Europe is ruled by center, center left or liberals and center right. They are practicly the same, they work for big business, banks, corporations in general. They are all pro immigration.

You are being very slippery with words here.

Everyone is "pro-immigration" if immigration is controlled, limited, if immigrants are vetted and qualified.

What people are against is uncontrolled mass immigration from 3rd world countries. If the left had properly listed perhaps far right parties would not have gained so much ground.

by Anonymousreply 161November 25, 2023 1:59 AM

Were their eyes smiling?

by Anonymousreply 162November 25, 2023 2:02 AM

Wir schaffen das!!!

by Anonymousreply 163November 25, 2023 2:24 AM

Maybe they should stay in their home countries and work to make improvements instead of bringing their medieval hate doctrines in their carryalls?

by Anonymousreply 164November 25, 2023 2:30 AM

R133 is woefully ignorant.

by Anonymousreply 165November 25, 2023 5:37 AM

I've said it before, but it bears repeating. Europe fucked up importing millions of Muslims who reproduce like rabbits.

Europe should have instead recruited non-Muslim, hardworking people from India, China, Southeast Asia, Mexico, etc.

by Anonymousreply 166November 25, 2023 10:23 AM

[quote]You are being very slippery with words here. Everyone is "pro-immigration" if immigration is controlled, limited, if immigrants are vetted and qualified. What people are against is uncontrolled mass immigration from 3rd world countries. If the left had properly listed perhaps far right parties would not have gained so much ground.

I'm pro immigration I live in the UK and consider my life to have been enriched by people who have come here to work and contribute to society.

But immigration has been an easy option to deal with long term problems. Why don't enough British born people want to do jobs like cleaning, caring, barista jobs? Because they're not paid enough but there's also a culture of "I'm better than that".

The wages stay low, immigration continues to rise, there aren't enough houses, public services don't get more funding and a lot of people don't feel better off.

There was a film on Newsnight before Brexit where the Indian community in a town were unhappy with the number of Romanians who had come to the town and were not contributing anything and making life unpleasant for those who lived there. Those Indians voted for Brexit for that reason, despite having a positive view of immigration.

by Anonymousreply 167November 25, 2023 10:37 AM

People who will bend over backwards to support 'the other' above their own, tolerate and find excuses for 'the other', and indulge the intolerance that comes from 'the other' have obviously got a problem with their own.

Perhaps childhood bullying, has fuelled the hatred for their own.

by Anonymousreply 168November 25, 2023 10:43 AM

R168 could be. Also issues with their families, abuse, neglect, make them project ill emotions they have for their mother and father on other people of their race and idealise colored people.

White women who have preference for black man tend to have very poor relationships with their fathers, so they subconsciously serach for someone who wouldn't remind them of him ( also women who had loving fathers tend to look for similar men).

by Anonymousreply 169November 25, 2023 11:03 AM

[quote]White women who have preference for black man tend to have very poor relationships with their fathers, so they subconsciously serach for someone who wouldn't remind them of him ( also women who had loving fathers tend to look for similar men).

Now that is KKK speak.

by Anonymousreply 170November 25, 2023 12:28 PM

A very changed London is on the march.

"Palestine protesters defy hate speech warning with anti-Semitic banners: Thousands march on London shouting controversial 'from the river to the sea' chant amid Gaza ceasefire "

BTW white Brits are only 36% of London's population now.

See link below:

by Anonymousreply 171November 25, 2023 5:08 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 172November 25, 2023 5:08 PM

Arrest those Hamas (terrorist) supporters now!

by Anonymousreply 173November 25, 2023 5:27 PM

R168 R169 this is pretty spot on. We should have a separate thread about it.

by Anonymousreply 174November 25, 2023 5:35 PM

R169, Datalounge REALLY doesn't need a thread analysing why white women are willing to date black men.

by Anonymousreply 175November 25, 2023 5:40 PM

R168 white guys who are obsessed with and exclusively fuck POC guys are usually pissed at all yts because they were teased growing up by other white boys, and they usually grew up in white utopias so they didn’t realize all the little brown boys thought they were a “fag” too

by Anonymousreply 176November 25, 2023 5:45 PM

This was tweeted by professional fighter and general shithead Conor McGregor (10m followers) and got 85k likes.

I do not condone last nights riots. I do not condone any attacks on our first responders in their line of duty. I do not condone looting and the damaging of shops. Last nights scenes achieved nothing toward fixing the issues we face. I do understand frustrations however, and I do understand a move must be made to ensure the change we need is ushered in. And fast! I am in the process of arranging. Believe me I am way more tactical and I have backing. There will be change in Ireland, mark my words. The change needed. In the last month, innocent children stabbed leaving school. Ashling Murphy murdered. Two Sligo men decapitated. This is NOT Ireland’s future! If they do not act soon with their plan of action to ensure Ireland’s safety, I will.

He tweeted it in response to the far right (genuinely far right) Paul Golding who leads the Britain First party and a picture of McGregor standing in front of a burning bus.

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by Anonymousreply 177November 25, 2023 5:57 PM

Dublin?

More like DUMBLIN.

by Anonymousreply 178November 25, 2023 6:40 PM

To help understand how fucked Ireland is, this is PM Leo Varadkar's tweet in response to Hamas releasing hostage Emily Hand.

[quote]This is a day of enormous joy and relief for Emily Hand and her family. An innocent child who was lost has now been found and returned, and we breathe a massive sigh of relief. Our prayers have been answered.

Emily's mother died from cancer when she was two. She was raised by her step mother who was murdered along with 120 people at Kibbutz Be'eri where at least 20 children were burnt alive, Emily was initially presumed to be dead, one of the bodies destroyed beyond recognition.

But prayers were answered and she was found!

An Irish miracle.

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by Anonymousreply 179November 26, 2023 10:24 AM

Ireland is trying to pass a hate speech bill that would make illegal “possession” of hate speech, which would include a meme screenshot. We’re not talking something with the n-word but let’s say a graphic with rates of violent crime by illegal aliens that say “Wonder who the problem is?”… screenshot that from Twitter… HATE SPEECH! GO TO JAIL!

The same politician pushing it said that the government and police were “too white and that needs to change” in the same speech.

Ireland is over 90% white, then 3.5% Asian, 1.5% black and then other.

by Anonymousreply 180November 26, 2023 3:42 PM

Migrants are colonizing Ireland.

by Anonymousreply 181November 26, 2023 3:43 PM

One of the stabbed children is from an immigrant family.

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by Anonymousreply 182November 26, 2023 4:14 PM

R182 father from Eastern Europe, the child looked white to the stabber

by Anonymousreply 183November 26, 2023 4:51 PM

Time for the US to issue a travel ban to Ireland.

Apparently, they're calling for foreigners to be killed.

Ireland is now officially in the same category as Russia and North Korea.

A far-right, extremist shit hole.

BOYCOTT IRELAND!!!

[quote]‘Any foreigner, just kill them’: How far-Right hooligans used WhatsApp to organise Dublin riots

Hours after a lone knifeman plunged his weapon into three young schoolchildren on the streets of Dublin, a call to arms was made.

A small but vocal minority took to social media to instigate the worst night of rioting the Irish capital has witnessed in decades.

Their fury was stoked by unsubstantiated online reports that the man who attacked the children was from Algeria.

The chilling aim of the riots for one so-called “patriot”: “kill all foreigners”.

“At seven o’clock, be in town. Everybody bally [balaclava] up, towel up, and any f---ing gypo, foreigner, anyone, just kill them. Just f---ing kill them. Let’s get this on the f---ing news,” a Dublin man said in a voice message to an anti-immigration WhatsApp group titled “Enough is enough”.

Over the next few hours on Thursday evening, chaos unfolded.

Riot police were attacked, vehicles set on fire and shops looted along one of Dublin’s most famous thoroughfares, O’Connell Street.

In one video clip, a group of young men wearing balaclavas and branded tracksuits entered a McDonalds and emerged moments later declaring they had stolen one of the restaurant’s charity boxes, used to collect money for a children’s hospital in the city.

Ireland’s oldest department store, Arnotts on Henry Street, was also attacked, with a gang breaking in and ransacking its shelves shortly after it had closed.

Shoplifters laughed and shouted as they carried mannequins out of the 180-year-old establishment.

The store’s chief executive said on Friday the scenes had left his staff, some of whom were reportedly still in the store at the time, “shaken”.

A FootLocker outlet on O’Connell Street was looted and remained closed yesterday, after some of its stock was stolen and its front windows were smashed.

The violent anti-immigration rioters quickly turned their ire on police, one of whom was seriously injured.

A lone, unarmed policeman was filmed being encircled and tackled by a group of young men on O’Connell Bridge.

At one point, a young man set alight a cardboard box, throwing it inside an unoccupied, parked police car, as onlookers cheered and the vehicle caught fire. Rioters fired flares and fireworks at police officers, several of whom were injured, one seriously.

As the night unfolded, images resembling a war zone emerged, as a tram and double-decker bus were set alight in the city centre.

The driver of the bus, who is from Mauritius but has lived in the country for 15 years, told Irish media that rioters had stopped the bus at traffic lights and started banging on the windscreen, telling him: “Get out of the bus or we will kill you”.

The rioting appeared to be well planned. Protesters told each other to spread out to make it harder for police to stop the rampage.

“They can’t control us all. Let’s have little groups splintering off, doing what we have to do,” said the man on the Whatsapp group.

“Let’s show the f---ing media that we are not a pushover and that no more foreigners are allowed into this poxy country. Enough is enough. This is it, the straw that broke the camel’s back. You touch our f---ing kids and these are the repercussions.”

On X, people were urged to flood the centre of Dublin to vent their fury at the attack on the schoolchildren.

“Get the train, get the bus, but most importantly, get to Dublin and stand with your fellow Irish people,” one person wrote.

Such was the extent of the violence, the Rotunda, a maternity hospital on Parnell Street, near the scene of Thursday’s stabbing, was forced to tell patients not to travel there “unless necessary”.

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by Anonymousreply 184November 26, 2023 4:53 PM

Protesters’ fury came even before the police had revealed the motivation of the attacker or his ethnicity. They clashed with police, yelling “get them out, get the f--- out” in apparent reference to migrants.

The hashtag #enoughisenough was trending on social media, with one man writing: “I think Ireland has had a gutful of diversity and cultural enrichment which has led to the attempted murder of three young girls in the heart of Dublin.”

The National Party, a tiny, far-Right, anti-immigration party which has no MPs in parliament, put out a message on X in which men were ordered to “man up” to “make Ireland safe for women and children”.

The message, which was viewed more than 22,000 times, said: “Are you happy to sit and watch Irish children stabbed or will you man up and fight back?”

The violence unfolded on the streets of the city as a reaction to the stabbing attack in which a man attacked three young children with a knife as they came out of their school in the heart of Dublin in the early afternoon.

One witness described the scene as “absolute bedlam”.

Another said: “The kids were out walking. All of a sudden, one of them fell to the ground, then another fell to the ground, then another falls to the ground. Then this guy started running past.”

Police initially said there was no political or terrorist motivation to the attack, but at a later briefing, the commissioner of police said that could not be ruled out.

There is speculation that the man may have suffered a psychotic episode. He is not believed to have a link to the school.

Drew Harris, the police commissioner, described the rioting as “disgraceful” and called the protesters a “complete lunatic faction driven by far-Right ideology”.

“We have seen a group of people who take literally a thimble full of facts and make a bathtub of hateful assumptions and then conduct themselves in a way which is riotous and disruptive to our society,” he added.

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by Anonymousreply 185November 26, 2023 4:53 PM

The 90 plus percent needs to let 1.5% take over their country now!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 186November 26, 2023 5:01 PM

Of course, the officials lie and say attack was due to mental illness. It was love for Allah. Perp was during his duty to perform jihad.

by Anonymousreply 187November 26, 2023 5:02 PM

The US needs to start closing our borders to right-wing trash like Ireland, the Netherlands, Italy, etc.

We don't want those goddamned losers here.

So sick of fucking Europeans.

by Anonymousreply 188November 26, 2023 5:04 PM

British person here and the more I see of the reaction to what happened in Dublin, the more it worries me.

I saw what happened when concerns about immigration were made - Gordon Brown and Gillian Duffy - and the attitude taken that ANY criticism or negative spin on numbers was not tolerated. It enabled Farage as a "truth teller" and anti elite politician to get credibility.

The current coalition of left and right is unpopular and neither party will work with Sinn Fein, understandably, which will enable the far right and boost Sinn Fein as a populist anti party.

Ireland's economy is built on sand and it needs a minor tremor for it to collapse.

And the number of journalists who have been defending Varadakar's tweet about Emily Hand are part of the problem. They can't conceive that people were actually offended by the lost/found language, they can't conceive that Jews would be ignorant of a New Testament reference, they can't conceive that the historic hostility to Jews is a problem for them and gives them a major blind spot when it comes to racism.

by Anonymousreply 189November 26, 2023 5:06 PM

The klangrannies have entered the chat. R189 is more than likely to be correct. The racism in Ireland appears dangerous. My Mexican husband and I wanted to visit, but now we are repelled from visiting based on how many racists there are defending the destruction

by Anonymousreply 190November 26, 2023 5:13 PM

Exactly, R190.

I'm telling you, the US needs to issue a travel ban to Ireland.

It sounds like a horrible place. Just like The Netherlands.

by Anonymousreply 191November 26, 2023 5:15 PM

Dublin is now Berlin, circa 1939.

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by Anonymousreply 192November 26, 2023 5:17 PM

The Yassss Kweens have arrived. I’m sure they post all kinds of extremist woke bullshit that drives forward the anti-white fury that is swirling around and pushes the conservatives further right. You’re part of the problem. Why are the Irish mad? It’s not because these are upstanding citizens who came there to work hard, no, they’re committing crimes and takes resources not even available to the locals.

by Anonymousreply 193November 26, 2023 5:27 PM

R189 that's a very thoughtful post.

by Anonymousreply 194November 26, 2023 5:28 PM

Seig Heil, R193!

Go read Mein Kampf again, and cry into your Guiness about how oppressed you are.

by Anonymousreply 195November 26, 2023 5:29 PM

R195 go “boost” some junk from TJMAXX.

by Anonymousreply 196November 26, 2023 5:30 PM

R192: MARY!

by Anonymousreply 197November 26, 2023 5:32 PM

Those drunken ass micks love to riot.

by Anonymousreply 198November 26, 2023 5:32 PM

Early Americans were so right to ban the Irish from most establishments.

Clearly, they knew what they were doing.

by Anonymousreply 199November 26, 2023 5:34 PM

Hahaha R190, imbecile term Klan Granny is so yesterday, it seems like you are posting from the past.

It is out of fashion now, young men are mocking woke ideology as fake and (sorry, I am only quoting) "gay".

You should get out and talk to people. Or go to social media where young men are chatting They say that they are going to vote for Trump, just to upset woke prisspots.

You will be to blame for Trump’s comeback,.

by Anonymousreply 200November 26, 2023 5:41 PM

R199 So, what is the difference between a bigot who hates black and you who hate Irish, could you explain me? I mean in which way are you better, you are equally deranged.

by Anonymousreply 201November 26, 2023 5:42 PM

Ah, those were the days....

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by Anonymousreply 202November 26, 2023 5:46 PM

R190 just wanted to chime in on your part about visiting. I’ve traveled to ireland with my Mexican American partner about 12 times and he’s never experienced any issues like you’re concerned about, unless you count him being confused as being Brazilian since there are so many gay Brazilians in Dublin lol. You should still go, it’s a great trip.

by Anonymousreply 203November 26, 2023 5:53 PM

Don’t encourage him R203. He is probably such an irritating and annoying prissy queen that he might provoke some hooligan to kick his ass and he will blame you afterwards.

by Anonymousreply 204November 26, 2023 5:58 PM

[quote] You should still go, it’s a great trip.

Don't go, R190.

Don't give those nasty racists even one penny of your money.

by Anonymousreply 205November 26, 2023 6:00 PM

R205 I am sure they will be devastated if two hysterical old bottoms like you and R190 don’t come to visit them.

by Anonymousreply 206November 26, 2023 6:12 PM

There's currently a debate on Twitter between Irish journalists over whether anyone should have reported the ethnicity of the man who attacked the children.

The media really doesn't help itself.

by Anonymousreply 207November 26, 2023 6:37 PM

Well R207 let’s say another Algerian person (who had nothing to do with the stabbing itself) had been set upon and injured or killed because of that, wouldn’t that require some internal debate on journalistic standards? Some of the people rioting clearly had violent anti immigrant motivations from what’s mentioned upthread, so why wouldn’t journalists consider the consequences of what they write?

by Anonymousreply 208November 26, 2023 6:51 PM

R208 as opposed to the daily violent crimes committed by the illegal immigrants?

by Anonymousreply 209November 26, 2023 6:54 PM

R209 in ireland? Daily? Are you just saying that or do you have evidence? Are you Irish or do you live in ireland?

by Anonymousreply 210November 26, 2023 6:55 PM

R199, the WASPS banned everyone.

by Anonymousreply 211November 26, 2023 7:17 PM

R208 on the contrary the media and politics covering the crime perpetrated by immigrants from Middle east and North Africa are the ones enticing the revolt and bad blood.

But, tell me, do you feel that prevalent anti white rhetoric in liberal media and academia, constant mentioning of white supremacy, white privilege, white exploitation, white shit, could instigate some frustrated POC to stab some random white person.

by Anonymousreply 212November 26, 2023 7:18 PM

[quote]Well [R207] let’s say another Algerian person (who had nothing to do with the stabbing itself) had been set upon and injured or killed because of that, wouldn’t that require some internal debate on journalistic standards? Some of the people rioting clearly had violent anti immigrant motivations from what’s mentioned upthread, so why wouldn’t journalists consider the consequences of what they write?

But if something is true, why should it not be reported?

Should the man who murdered the two gay men and tortured and mutilated another not be named in case other people called Mohammed are affected by it?

Should the man who murdered Aisling Murphy not be reported as being Slovakian in case there is pushback?

There are a lot of journalists rightly pushing back against the idea they should suppress information that allows them to report a story truthfully.

by Anonymousreply 213November 26, 2023 7:22 PM

[quote] But if something is true, why should it not be reported?

I didn’t say it shouldn’t be R213, I’m saying it’s not surprising that journalists would debate the ethics of publishing certain information when it is likely that the act of doing so could put other people in danger of violence.

But I don’t know if immediately after an attack like this happens, whether certain aspects of the attackers identify are immediately relevant and required for publication. His being Algerian doesn’t necessarily have any significance in terms of the ‘why’ of the attack, so does publishing that information straightaway always appropriate?

Especially in Ireland where there are strict laws about media reporting on names of people that have been arrested and not charged etc.

by Anonymousreply 214November 26, 2023 7:29 PM

Exactly. There was no censorship about reporting about the Slovakian murder. Because he is an isolate case. But there are so many crimes committed by Muslim, mostly illegal immigrants that press is covering up, but people know it, people talk to each other and communicate on social media.

Besides, with social media nowadays, you can not really hide the truth. You an only make it worse, if you try and hide it, you can only entice exaggerated rumors on social media.

by Anonymousreply 215November 26, 2023 7:31 PM

How come this "mentally ill" Arabic men never go bonkers in Orban’s Hungary, in Putin’s Russia or Vučić’s Serbia, they only do in permissive and ultra tolerant liberal western societies.

by Anonymousreply 216November 26, 2023 7:42 PM

Given the state of things on the continent, it is beyond obvious that the elites, ruling class and politicians have no fucking clue what they are doing, especially when it comes to immigration and Islam.

The continued massive incompetence of elected officials is breathtaking.

by Anonymousreply 217November 26, 2023 7:47 PM

But U2 are in Vegas at the Sphere

by Anonymousreply 218November 26, 2023 8:05 PM

They haven't been residents of Ireland for over three decades.

by Anonymousreply 219November 26, 2023 9:51 PM

We need to bring this back....

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by Anonymousreply 220November 26, 2023 11:40 PM

R220 talk about projection, supporter of racist policy accusing Irish of racism. You are such a brainless old twat.

by Anonymousreply 221November 27, 2023 7:16 AM

I find this line of questioning so troublesome.

It really does look like the media are trying to cover up the nationality of the stabbing perp.

There's more anger directed at the people who reported it than the perp himself, or at the mental health services who presumably failed him.

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by Anonymousreply 222November 28, 2023 6:51 PM

Great clip r222. John McGuirk read them for filth, he's absolutely correct.

by Anonymousreply 223November 28, 2023 7:19 PM

The idea that the perpetrator had Irish citizenship and is therefore equivalent to a native Irish person is absurd. The citizenship is merely an administrative process. Paper never refused ink. That man may be legally Irish but culturally he may as well be from Mars.

by Anonymousreply 224November 28, 2023 7:20 PM

While Dublin tears itself apart, in Belfast some graffiti that reads "Irish Lives Matter" is being treated as a hate crime. West Belfast is a largely nationalist Catholic area.

But remember the Irish are morally superior to other European nations.

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by Anonymousreply 225November 29, 2023 7:49 PM

[quote]But remember the Irish are morally superior to other European nations.

Nobody ever said that.

by Anonymousreply 226November 29, 2023 8:34 PM

The Irish were called "the n------s of Europe" and "white n-----s" for a very long time.

by Anonymousreply 227November 29, 2023 8:35 PM

R226 have you not seen the Irish commentators insist they don't have the same sort of problems as Britain, France, Italy and Sweden etc because of "Irish values"?

by Anonymousreply 228November 29, 2023 8:44 PM

[quote] The Irish were called "the n------s of Europe" and "white n-----s" for a very long time.

Now we all understand why.

by Anonymousreply 229November 29, 2023 8:46 PM

r228 they're all too drunk to notice any problems.

by Anonymousreply 230November 29, 2023 8:49 PM

The world is hanging on by a string.

by Anonymousreply 231November 29, 2023 9:11 PM

Is the housing crisis in Ireland similar to the one in Netherlands which is prompting at least some of the rioting?

by Anonymousreply 232November 29, 2023 9:13 PM

video- Ireland is woke! Various Irish politicians discuss "white privilege" and the need for racial quotas, with one recalling the "very dull, white, pasty Ireland" that he grew up in before mass migration.

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by Anonymousreply 233November 29, 2023 9:13 PM

[quote] The world is hanging on by a string.

Thanks to right-wing racist nutjobs, trying to make a big deal out of nothing.

It's just hate for the sake of hate.

by Anonymousreply 234November 29, 2023 9:14 PM

R234 LMAO the anti-white rhetoric is building full steam ahead. You’re obviously oblivious. This is how Hitler started.

Whites were the first to end slavery. This entire woke movement is happening only because whites are allowing it.

by Anonymousreply 235November 29, 2023 9:20 PM

R233 WOW!!! The wordsalads and brainwashing is outstanding. Fucking unbelievable. Blacks are 1.5% of the population in Ireland..

by Anonymousreply 236November 29, 2023 9:21 PM

[quote]Is the housing crisis in Ireland similar to the one in Netherlands which is prompting at least some of the rioting?

Yes - housing is a big part of it. Dublin is a very expensive city to live in and there hasn't been an increase in affordable housing to match the rise in population, which is largely from immigration.

by Anonymousreply 237November 29, 2023 9:28 PM

The woke rhetoric has got to the point to where if you don’t lay down, bow down and say that any POC person should just take over everything and that you’ll hand it all to them lock, stock and barrel: your checking account, your savings, your cash, your property, your daughter… then you’re the worst thing in the world a “racist!“

This shows the frightening ability of social media, to quickly brainwash and indoctrinate people into ideology that goes against their core beliefs and to get them to a point to where they’re no longer even defending themselves, they’re going against their own safety and security. Against their own self interest, constantly culling their egos and self-confidence.

I eventually predict one of these blq supremacist influencers making some kind of psychotic call to arms and the TikTok zombies will go into action, and the woke will go “oh well, shouldn’t be colonizers!” and shrug their shoulders.

by Anonymousreply 238November 29, 2023 9:31 PM

In Ireland there has been a catastrophic abdication of responsibility by the government over the housing crisis. Dublin has gone from one of the more affordable European capitals to more expensive than London or Paris. This is due, not to levels of immigration, but to the government's failure to actually build affordable social housing for people to live in, preferring instead to subsidise housing developers who take the subsidies and don't build the homes. Relatively underdeveloped public transport links, hindering the development of satellite towns, are another part of the problem.

Ireland's population has only recently recovered to the levels seen before the Great Famine of the 1840s. In no respect can it be called 'full'.

by Anonymousreply 239November 29, 2023 9:35 PM

It hasn't recovered.

The population was 8.5 million before the famine. It's 5 million now in the Republic, and 1.9 million in NI.

by Anonymousreply 240November 29, 2023 9:46 PM

Too many in the world is the biggest problem for everyone.

by Anonymousreply 241November 29, 2023 9:54 PM

Why don't the Palestinians move to Ireland if there's plenty of space for millions more?

Everyone will be happy!

by Anonymousreply 242November 29, 2023 9:55 PM

R241 * too many people *

by Anonymousreply 243November 29, 2023 10:02 PM

Headlines: “He was an Irish Citizen!

(Factual but not honest.)

Arrived in Ireland in 1999, asylum application rejected in 2003.

He did not attend his deportation, and became an "evader", ignoring his deportation order for years. No effort was made by the state to enforce the deportation order.

Two NGO's helped him fight multiple legal battles to remain. Rejected again in 2006 and 2008.

Finally, with help of an NGO, he won a legal battle which took issue with the last rejection and granted him leave to stay, later becoming a naturalised Irish citizen.

Never held a job in Ireland and was provided housing by another NGO.

Shameful! These open-border NGO's and the Irish state are destroying the Irish nation. This is a failed system.

by Anonymousreply 244November 29, 2023 10:07 PM

Just for context, R233 linking to gript is like linking to a weird, independent cranky insane version of Fox News. It’s 4chan journalism, stay away if you have any self respect.

by Anonymousreply 245November 29, 2023 10:34 PM

R245 - are you staying that the story shared by Gript is untrue?

I first heard of Gript when they were the only source of information on Barbie Kardashian, the "trans woman" who fantasised about raping and murdering "her" mother and had been placed in a women's prison having used Ireland's relaxed self ID laws.

No other news agency were touching the story and it turned out to be completely true.

I accept it has a very transparent agenda but does it have a record for publishing untrue stories?

by Anonymousreply 246November 29, 2023 10:41 PM

R246 what story? It’s a bunch of clips edited together…there’s barely any context.

Hardly surprising that the subject of white privilege would come up or be mentioned in any modern democracy, is it?

I’m guessing you’re not Irish, or have never lived in Ireland (correct me if I’m wrong), a lot of the discussion in that collection of clips seems to be in relation to travelers, an ethnic (or racial depending on who you’re asking) group within ireland, it’s an important discussion.

Also Irelands political voting system is geared heavily towards achieving proportional representation in how the voting is organized, it’s by order of preference, which results in a much more diverse political representative group than let’s say, the UK. This is one of the primary aims of Irish voting, so of course ways to enforce this are discussed.

Also, for instance, calling out the maleness (or other ‘privileged’ attributed of the Irish elected representative body), is not a bad thing. A huge amount of Irish TDs for instance, are landlords, or publicans. This should be discussed or challenged as there may be legislation being undertaken with those business interests in mind, is this also too ‘woke’ for you? Identity politics is not just for minorities you know, majority identity politics has always been with us.

by Anonymousreply 247November 29, 2023 11:32 PM

R246 - I was referring to the post at R244 which originated from Gript. Is that untrue?

Look at this framing from Guardian journalist Rory O'Carroll's article

[quote]The Dublin riot has become a talking point for far-right groups outside Ireland. In France, where a series of far-right marches have been held in response to the killing of a 16-year-old in the south-east of the country, the night of violence in Ireland was a “trigger” for a strong reaction, a French intelligence source told Reuters, noting there was a will among far-right activists to be “as good as the Irish”.

[quote]Messages on French far-right Telegram groups shared footage of the disturbances and hailed its participants. “Bravo to the resistance,” one message read.

"The killing of a 16 year old". Who was the 16 year old and who are the alleged murderers? Why not report that the 6 young men remanded in custody over a mass stabbing attack are Moroccan/Algerian and that the victims are white, and that THAT is why the far right are reacting to it?

It's clear from the fall out in Ireland over the riots that journalists think it's appropriate to withhold facts from the public and don't think they should be told them. The Guardian clearly does too.

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by Anonymousreply 248November 30, 2023 8:11 AM

R248 how would I have known the other comment @244 originated from gript, that wasn’t mentioned or linked or cited, I’m not a mind reader.

by Anonymousreply 249November 30, 2023 8:21 AM

I hope another famine hits Ireland, and they start eating each other.

Rotten racist cunts.

Irish and Dutch are the lowest scum.

by Anonymousreply 250November 30, 2023 8:24 AM

[quote] “We Irish are known for our beautiful hearts”

Are they, though?

The Irish are known as being desperate to be liked.

by Anonymousreply 251November 30, 2023 8:58 AM

R250 says the racist.

by Anonymousreply 252November 30, 2023 6:15 PM

What are those things the guy in the gray hoodie is using? Some sort of sporting equipment?

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by Anonymousreply 253December 3, 2023 2:37 AM

R253 they’re hurleys (or hurls). It’s an Irish sports game. And yikes that would hurt.

by Anonymousreply 254December 3, 2023 2:43 AM

The two lads with the hurls also look Irish?

by Anonymousreply 255December 3, 2023 3:02 AM

The Irish National Party /An Páirtí Náisiúnta

The centre of our capital today, a regional town tomorrow? Stand up, take your country back! Gerry Kinneavy discusses the very real threats to our country as a result of open borders mass immigration.

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by Anonymousreply 256December 3, 2023 4:18 AM

[quote] The centre of our capital today, a regional town tomorrow? Stand up, take your country back! Gerry Kinneavy discusses the very real threats to our country as a result of open borders mass immigration.

Seig Heil, Ireland!

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by Anonymousreply 257December 3, 2023 4:35 AM

R257, immigration in Europe has been a complete failure and disaster. Everyone sees it and knows it, except for most politicians, who tend to govern out of ego, ideology and gross stupidity. The Irish and other indigenous European people have every right to stop the insanity, and, no, it doesn't make them Nazis or far right extremists.

by Anonymousreply 258December 3, 2023 10:42 PM

[quote] The Irish and other indigenous European people have every right to stop the insanity, and, no, it doesn't make them Nazis or far right extremists.

In case you missed it, let me re-post an excerpt from the article linked at R184... just for you R258:

[quote] The chilling aim of the riots for one so-called “patriot”: “kill all foreigners”.

[quote] “At seven o’clock, be in town. Everybody bally [balaclava] up, towel up, and any f---ing gypo, foreigner, anyone, just kill them. Just f---ing kill them. Let’s get this on the f---ing news,” a Dublin man said in a voice message to an anti-immigration WhatsApp group titled “Enough is enough”.

Sounds pretty Nazi-ish to me.

Hitler would be proud.

And the Irish people certainly are proud of this.

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by Anonymousreply 259December 3, 2023 10:52 PM

R259 Irish people are not proud of that. It’s a fringe element. Take your generalizations elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 260December 3, 2023 11:25 PM

r258 you are 100% correct

by Anonymousreply 261December 3, 2023 11:58 PM

R259, Nazi like this?

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