Jimmy can’t be far behind.
S. First Lady Rosalynn Carter is Dead to Me
|by Anonymous||reply 338||November 29, 2023 5:43 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 19, 2023 8:23 PM|
Jimmy will probably follow her soon. They both lived long great lives. RIP.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 19, 2023 8:23 PM|
Super? Scintillating? Sassy?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 19, 2023 8:24 PM|
It was supposed to be U.S.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 19, 2023 8:26 PM|
RIP Mrs Carter.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 19, 2023 8:26 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 19, 2023 8:26 PM|
She's never been photographed nude fingering herself, so she's not a real first lady.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 19, 2023 8:26 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 19, 2023 8:27 PM|
Datalounge VERY often announces these bulletins far quicker than the New York Times. I just checked NOTHING at their website about Mrs. Carter.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 19, 2023 8:27 PM|
I feel sad for him, married 77 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 19, 2023 8:28 PM|
That’s more like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 19, 2023 8:28 PM|
May she Rest in Peace. A wonderful couple who did so much good in the world. Especially their work for Habitat for Humanity.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 19, 2023 8:29 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 19, 2023 8:29 PM|
Please do not let DJT near the funeral
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 19, 2023 8:30 PM|
I wouldn't worry, r14.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 19, 2023 8:32 PM|
May she rest in peace.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 19, 2023 8:33 PM|
Presidents - sitting or former - rarely go to the funerals of former First Ladies, R14. Unless the First Lady is Eleanor Roosevelt.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 19, 2023 8:33 PM|
Jimmy will be the only president people will be sad about dying.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 19, 2023 8:33 PM|
Is Jimmy well enough to attend her funeral?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 19, 2023 8:35 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 19, 2023 8:35 PM|
[quote]I feel sad for him, married 77 years.
I will cry like a 12 year old girl if he dies shortly after this to join her in the great beyond 😭
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 19, 2023 8:35 PM|
We’ll get to see the reclusive Amy.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 19, 2023 8:36 PM|
Rest in peace, Mrs. Carter
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 19, 2023 8:36 PM|
R21, Maybe Jimmy will pull a “Debbie Reynolds”.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 19, 2023 8:37 PM|
R19: I think he’ll be well enough to go to the funeral. He entered hospice not because he was at death’s door but because he knew Rosalynn was declining and wanted to go with her. RIP Mrs. Carter
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 19, 2023 8:37 PM|
R19, Bush 41 attended Bar’s funeral in a wheelchair.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 19, 2023 8:38 PM|
Bless her and all the great work she did!
She is in Heaven now!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 19, 2023 8:39 PM|
A great lady and a Great First Lady who worked relentlessly for, to name a few: the poor; mental (and physical) health); those without homes and millions without hope here and around the world.
Rest In Peace, Mrs. Carter. Your life set a wonderful example for your country. Thank you for your service.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 19, 2023 8:39 PM|
I’m bringing Bill with me to the funeral because I am not sitting next to Michelle.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 19, 2023 8:40 PM|
My sympathies, OP. I also had an oops in the headline when I posted the original thread on this topic. Or not. There's no timestamp on this site -at least not that I know of. Rather than mention the Third Reich, I'll just add my condolences to Jimmy and the Carter family. And to America, which has lost a shining example of how to be and what to do in and out of the White House.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 19, 2023 8:43 PM|
R29, I doubt either of the Clintons will go. The Carters and Clintons got along like oil and water.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 19, 2023 8:45 PM|
They will attend -out of respect for the office at the very least. It's a very tiny sacrifice, and one that doesn't get asked very often. The real question will be if a Trump will dare to show up.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 19, 2023 8:47 PM|
Our country has more tears ahead shortly. As many stated upthread, President and Mrs. Carter were rarely from each other's sides in life and in love. He will be joining his beloved soon. God bless them both.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 19, 2023 8:49 PM|
I bet Melania will go
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 19, 2023 8:49 PM|
I predict that Jimmy will still live on for years without her, R33.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 19, 2023 8:50 PM|
I predict Jimmy will remarry.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 19, 2023 8:51 PM|
I actually think all former potus and First Ladies will attend the funeral (except Trump, no one wants his disgusting ass there) along with Joe and Jill of course. Just based on their humantarian work, and the longevity of their lives. It’s not like Barbara or Nancy dying, who didn’t do shit for anyone that was poor and suffering.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 19, 2023 8:52 PM|
Whatever happened to his HILLBILLY WHITE TRASH brother?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 19, 2023 8:52 PM|
Jimmy Carter, long now blind, hasn’t been seen in public for some time. I don’t think his health will enable him to attend the funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 19, 2023 8:53 PM|
R31, Didn’t Carter criticize Clinton during the Lewinsky thing?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 19, 2023 8:53 PM|
R38, Billy died, young like his non-Jimmy siblings, in the ‘80s. Like their father, all of pancreatic cancer.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 19, 2023 8:55 PM|
Didn't everybody, R40? It's the past. The Ex-President Club is a very small, elite group. The Clintons will attend.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 19, 2023 8:55 PM|
She and Jimmy were two really good people. RIP Mrs Cater
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 19, 2023 8:56 PM|
Remember when Rosalynn told Mike Wallace on “60 Minutes” that Ronald Reagan made Americans feel comfortable with their prejudices?
Mike was a bit stunned and gave her an opportunity to walk it back, but she did not.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 19, 2023 8:56 PM|
R40, the Clintons always blamed Pres. Carter for Bill’s loss in his first gubernatorial re-election campaign.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 19, 2023 8:56 PM|
Have you noticed that many famous old people die at 96 recently? Queen Elizabeth, Angela Lansbury, Tony Bennett just to name a few. There must be something about this magic number being the age the elderly usually croaks at.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 19, 2023 8:58 PM|
[quote] I predict Jimmy will remarry.
I find date for him, for veddy good price.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 19, 2023 8:58 PM|
R34, Melania attended Barbara Bush’s funeral alone.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 19, 2023 8:58 PM|
r44, I recall that too
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 19, 2023 8:59 PM|
RIP to a great lady. May she rest in peace.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 19, 2023 8:59 PM|
I think all the present & former First Ladies - with the exception of Melania - will attend. The only president might be W., so he can be with bestie again.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 19, 2023 8:59 PM|
[quote] Jimmy Carter, long now blind, hasn’t been seen in public for some time.
They made an appearance a month or so ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 19, 2023 8:59 PM|
R41, Billy’s daughter married Van Jones. Seriously.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 19, 2023 9:00 PM|
[quote] I recall that too
Recollections may vary.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 19, 2023 9:00 PM|
Although Melania went to Barbara’s funeral, she was the then-current First Lady.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 19, 2023 9:01 PM|
And then they divorced, R53.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 19, 2023 9:01 PM|
Thanks for that pic, R52. In the one I saw at the time, only Rosalynn was (somewhat) visible.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 19, 2023 9:03 PM|
What a REAL Christian looks like.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 19, 2023 9:04 PM|
Didn’t Rosalynn refuse to give Nancy Reagan the traditional tour of the White House family quarters and had an underling do it?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 19, 2023 9:04 PM|
I never heard that story, R59. I don’t think that’s true.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 19, 2023 9:06 PM|
I’m seeing reporting that it was Guinea worm — any credence to that, DL?
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 19, 2023 9:06 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 19, 2023 9:07 PM|
When the lamestream press don’t list a cause of death, it’s almost always a vax injury.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 19, 2023 9:09 PM|
[quote]President and Mrs. Carter were rarely from each other's sides in life and in love.
Except once, in 1976.
But it was only two days later that Mr. President Jimmy Carter announced to the American people that he had secretly lusted in his life.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 19, 2023 9:09 PM|
R9, the New York Times never announces a death FIRST.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 19, 2023 9:12 PM|
She is one of the few, if only, First Lady to pull off the same hairstyle for 50 plus years and still look good. For that alone she rises to the top!
|by Anonymous||reply 66||November 19, 2023 9:16 PM|
R66- I've had the same hairshtyle since 1972!
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 19, 2023 9:21 PM|
The pic is R52 is heartbreaking. Rosalynn looked ok, but Jimmy didn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 19, 2023 9:21 PM|
R67, you missed “and still looks good”.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||November 19, 2023 9:24 PM|
[quote] She is one of the few, if only, First Lady to pull off the same hairstyle for 50 plus years and still look good.
Fuck you, R66!
|by Anonymous||reply 70||November 19, 2023 9:26 PM|
When I first saw this thread, I feared S. Epatha Merkerson had died.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||November 19, 2023 9:26 PM|
A wonderful being. A true humanitarian, like her husband.
A live well lived.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||November 19, 2023 9:27 PM|
I had an aunt and uncle who were together for 60+ years--when my aunt died, her husband joined her a few days later. I think this'll be a similar situation.
RIP Rosalynn, you were a wonderful first lady. And Jimmy should've had a second term, except he was fucked over by Reagan with the Iran hostages situation. Truly good people--what anyone labeling themselves a Christian should aspire to.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||November 19, 2023 9:29 PM|
R31 I will guarantee you the Clintons will be there. You're right, they were oil and water for a long time, but in the past 20 years those feelings had faded, and Bill and Hil were fond of them, admired them, but no they were never friends. I suspect Jimmy won't be far behind. I'm reminded of an old bible verse,"I go to prepare place for you..." RIP, Rosalynn. It's about time media acknowledged her role. I remember the controversy the media fed when Rosalynn attended cabinet meetings, and when she asked for and got an office and a staff in the East Wing. That had not been done before.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 19, 2023 9:32 PM|
R41, that just makes me even more convinced that scientists have developed life-enhancing drugs, but have only allowed an exclusive group (including former presidents and first ladies) access to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||November 19, 2023 9:33 PM|
R61 you crack me up.
What a wonderful thing to spend 77 years with the love of your life doing good deeds together. Rest in power dear Mrs. Carter.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||November 19, 2023 9:33 PM|
R66, Only 50 years plus?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 19, 2023 9:35 PM|
Almost 60 years after JFK’s death, there’s still only been one death of a Democratic president. An amazing fact.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||November 19, 2023 9:37 PM|
With serial killer John Wayne Gacy.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||November 19, 2023 9:39 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 80||November 19, 2023 9:41 PM|
With mass murderer Jim Jones.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||November 19, 2023 9:41 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 82||November 19, 2023 9:42 PM|
She and Jimmy both deserve state funerals in the National Cathedral. But knowing their humble attitudes I doubt Jimmy would want that.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||November 19, 2023 9:44 PM|
All living First Ladies will attend the funeral, which will likely be in Georgia, not in DC. That includes Hillary Clinton. Representatives of the families of past Presidents will also be invited, such as members of the Ford, Johnson, and Kennedy families.
And Van Jones was not married to President Carter's daughter Amy, but to Jana Carter, no relation.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||November 19, 2023 9:47 PM|
R84 That cunt Melania had better not show up.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||November 19, 2023 9:49 PM|
Apologies if anyone else has already posted President Carter’s statement about the loss of Mrs Carter, but it bears repeating:
“Rosalynn was my equal partner in everything I ever accomplished. She gave me wise guidance and encouragement when I needed it. As long as Rosalynn was in the world, I always knew somebody loved and supported me.”
|by Anonymous||reply 86||November 19, 2023 9:49 PM|
If you're ever in Atlanta, go to Carter's presidential library. It's amazing what he got done. And Rosalyn knew how to dress. Even in the hideous 70's.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||November 19, 2023 9:49 PM|
I remember Joan Rivers was such a bitch to the Carters, calling them hillbillies with RC shouting "Come and Git It"
|by Anonymous||reply 88||November 19, 2023 9:49 PM|
Should add to r84, representatives of the Reagan and Bush families will also be invited to the funeral.
It seems odd that Bill and Hillary Clinton are now the oldest surviving President and First Lady combo.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||November 19, 2023 9:49 PM|
I don't think the relationship between the clintons and the carters could have been too Frosty these last few years given they attended the Carter's 75th wedding anniversary.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||November 19, 2023 9:52 PM|
R89, Even Ron, Jr.?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||November 19, 2023 9:54 PM|
People commenting about Jimmy dying soon after reminds me of how when my dad's wife died there were many people couldn't wait to tell me how he probably wouldn't have much longer. It was almost like we were hoping he'd be dead soon it was so odd to keep saying that to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||November 19, 2023 9:57 PM|
[quote] And Van Jones was not married to President Carter's daughter Amy, but to Jana Carter, no relation.
Jana Carter WAS Billy's daughter.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||November 19, 2023 9:57 PM|
R84, Amy Carter and Jana Carter are first cousins, you moron.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||November 19, 2023 9:58 PM|
R89, See R53.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||November 19, 2023 10:00 PM|
Thanks, R91! Throughout the years, I would object to young Ron to my friends (who liked his liberal politics) because I vaguely remembered - but couldn't place - some highly offensive comment about Jimmy Carter. With your help, I now have what he said.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||November 19, 2023 10:01 PM|
R84, See R53.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||November 19, 2023 10:02 PM|
Tricia - never Julie - always represents the Nixon at these events.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||November 19, 2023 10:02 PM|
R98, There’s been friction between Tricia and Julie for years since their parents died.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||November 19, 2023 10:06 PM|
[quote]That cunt Melania had better not show up.
You know she'd rather have a root canal.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||November 19, 2023 10:07 PM|
RIP Rosalyn Carter
Condolences to the entire Carter family.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||November 19, 2023 10:10 PM|
R100, She just attended Trump’s sister’s funeral a few days ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||November 19, 2023 10:11 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 103||November 19, 2023 10:13 PM|
R103, She only attends one funeral per month.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||November 19, 2023 10:15 PM|
No, Jana Carter was NOT Jimmy Carter's daughter. Jimmy had one daughter, Amy.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||November 19, 2023 10:17 PM|
[quote] I remember Joan Rivers was such a bitch to the Carters, calling them hillbillies with RC shouting "Come and Git It"
I still say that Joan would have been a Trumpster had she lived to see Trump get into politics.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||November 19, 2023 10:21 PM|
Van married Jimmy's daughter Dixie.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||November 19, 2023 10:21 PM|
[quote] Tricia - never Julie - always represents the Nixon at these events.
Julie's a cunt.
Julie is ALWAYS a cunt!
|by Anonymous||reply 108||November 19, 2023 10:25 PM|
R105 is certifiably insane.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||November 19, 2023 10:27 PM|
R106, Joan Rivers adored Donald Trump, as did her pals Cindy Adams and Barbara Walters.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||November 19, 2023 10:29 PM|
Carter is a southern gentleman and his late wife an educated,Southern American lady. Not. Hillbillies.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||November 19, 2023 10:47 PM|
They had the class usually reserved for the rich but we're basically middle class economically.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||November 19, 2023 10:54 PM|
Remember the DESIGNING WOMEN episode when Julia got the chance to meet Jimmy & Rosalynn Carter but had to do jury duty and took it out on Charlene?
[quote]"If I miss my dinner with Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter because of this, you're going to pay and pay big! I'm going to find you and hunt you down like a dog! I'm talking about you running through the woods in the snow with bloodhounds ripping your clothes off!"
|by Anonymous||reply 113||November 19, 2023 10:58 PM|
I look forward to the klassiest FLOTUS ever, Melania, and her fuck me stilettos and Nazi stormtrooper outfit at the funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||November 19, 2023 11:05 PM|
Sadly, this is likely to cast a pall over Thanksgiving. I hope they can think of it as she's sharing a turkey leg with Jesus this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||November 19, 2023 11:07 PM|
R67, make that 1967.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||November 19, 2023 11:08 PM|
Rosalynn wanted me to read the eulogy.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||November 19, 2023 11:09 PM|
I fondly remember an encounter with the former First Lady when Mrs. Carter climbed through my kitchen window with a quart of chili. She almost stepped on my shelter cat Miss Sissy Boodles before scurrying away, chased by two Secret Service Agents.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||November 19, 2023 11:10 PM|
Jimmy and Rosalynn were huge fans of Royal Caribbean Cruises (imagine the Secret Service letting even a former First Couple on a cruise ship these days), and Rosalynn even christened one of their ships. Back in my travel agent days when I was more plugged into cruise industry message boards, I read more than one story from women who went to exercises classes onboard during the 80s and would be working out alongside her.
I can maybe see Michelle Obama and Jill Biden doing something like that, amongst the regular folks, but Hillary, Laura Bush or the Varist Lady? Absolutely not.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||November 20, 2023 12:18 AM|
If you need a smile, here's the story of Rosalynn as godmother to Sovereign of the Seas. Some nice pictures of her as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||November 20, 2023 12:26 AM|
FYI: Jana Carter was the daughter of Jimmy Carter's crazy brother Billy Carter. So she was Jimmy's niece. She divorced Van Jones almost ten years ago. OK? Are we clear? are we CLEAR?
|by Anonymous||reply 121||November 20, 2023 12:27 AM|
I'm betting they will coordinate witI'm also guessing they will have her lying in state at the Carter Center, then take her back to plains for the actual funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||November 20, 2023 12:29 AM|
Has our favorite president commented, yet? His was Pres. Carter's last presidential inauguration.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||November 20, 2023 12:32 AM|
Hunny Jimmy and Rosalynn probably have everything all planned out for their funeral including who will speak and what kind of hymns. When Jimmy has his homegoing, he will lie in state at the Carter Center for two or three days, then go to Washington for a couple of days, then back to Plains for the actual funeral service and burial.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||November 20, 2023 12:32 AM|
I think I mentioned this in a prior thread, but since its founding, Brooks Brothers made bespoke suits for every president except two.
One was Ronald Reagan, who preferred the work of his fancy Hollywood tailors.
The other was Jimmy Carter, forever a man of the people, who bought off the rack.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||November 20, 2023 12:35 AM|
I imagine Ron Reagan Jr's. attitude has changed significantly in the years since his father was POTUS. He has admitted many times that he was ashamed of his father for the things he did.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||November 20, 2023 12:37 AM|
If that filthy Eastern European whore Melania is invited and actually attends either of the Carter's funerals I will be incensed. I would think fat fuck Donald would tell her to keep her skank ass at home. If he even knows where she is, that is.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||November 20, 2023 12:41 AM|
[quote] Hunny Jimmy and Rosalynn probably have everything all planned out for their funeral including who will speak
The problem with their longstanding plans that is living by living to such ripe ages their preferred speakers may not be alive or well enough to speak.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||November 20, 2023 12:41 AM|
R121, Ten years ago? You ignorant cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||November 20, 2023 12:41 AM|
Jimmy won't live long now. Just as my father, after my mother (the light of his life) died, he had nothing more to live for and died relatively soon after. Actually he died the day my mother died, it just took him a while to stop breathing.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||November 20, 2023 12:44 AM|
R126, He’s such a smug little prick.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||November 20, 2023 12:45 AM|
[quote]R18: Jimmy will be the only president people will be sad about dying.
Nearly the entire country collectively never got over the death of JFK.
[quote]R78: Almost 60 years after JFK’s death, there’s still only been one death of a Democratic president. An amazing fact.
What about LBJ? Or did you mean while in office?
What about FDR?
|by Anonymous||reply 132||November 20, 2023 12:47 AM|
R132, R18 was talking about living presidents.
[quote]What about LBJ? Or did you mean while in office? What about FDR?
In the 60 years since Kennedy was killed, only one Democratic president has died, LBJ. FDR died before Kennedy was in office.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||November 20, 2023 12:53 AM|
I need to correct myself. Two democratic presidents, Truman (12/72) & LBJ (1/73), not one, have died. But it's something that none have died in closing in on 51 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||November 20, 2023 12:58 AM|
You learn very quickly that there is no handbook or rules to being First Lady. Technically, it’s not even an official position. And while there are spoken and unspoken expectations that provide some structure, the role is largely shaped by the passions and aspirations of the person holding it.
First Lady Rosalynn Carter understood that well.
Guided by her abiding faith and her commitment to service, Mrs. Carter used her platform in profoundly meaningful ways. Her groundbreaking work to combat the stigma faced by those struggling with their mental health brought light to so many suffering in silence. She advocated for better care for the elderly. She advanced women’s rights. And she remained a champion for those causes — and many others like building affordable housing for those in need and caring for our nation’s caregivers — in the more than four decades that followed.
When our family was in the White House, every so often, Rosalynn would join me for lunch, offering a few words of advice and always — always — a helping hand. She reminded me to make the role of First Lady my own, just like she did. I’ll always remain grateful for her support and her generosity.
Today, Barack and I join the world in celebrating the remarkable legacy of a First Lady, philanthropist, and advocate who dedicated her life to lifting up others. Her life is a reminder that no matter who we are, our legacies are best measured not in awards or accolades, but in the lives we touch. We send our thoughts and prayers to Jimmy and the entire Carter family during this difficult time.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||November 20, 2023 1:04 AM|
I agree, R131. I'm team Patti in this yet another case of bad blood among republican presidential siblings.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||November 20, 2023 1:07 AM|
The Trumps have spoken.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||November 20, 2023 1:10 AM|
Mrs O r135 offered a slam dunk and a rebuke against low class thugs who have dominated our timelines for too long.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||November 20, 2023 1:11 AM|
Told you I was hardcore!
|by Anonymous||reply 139||November 20, 2023 1:15 AM|
Eye no do no crease must sheet.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||November 20, 2023 1:16 AM|
Hahahahorseshit. Trump and the hooker didn't write those. Now let's not speak of him again.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||November 20, 2023 1:21 AM|
I doubt any of the Trumps will be there. Jimmy has said publicly that he felt Donald Trump was illegitimate, that he was installed in the White House by Putin. Yes. He said it outloud in public.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||November 20, 2023 1:21 AM|
Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon Cox disagreed as to how their father’s legacy should be maintained after his death in 1994 and they did not speak for quite a while.
Currently, they will both attend a Nixon ceremony or tribute, but they keep their distance and are not photographed together.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||November 20, 2023 1:24 AM|
R137, I'm surprised Melania didn't just Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V Michelle's tribute
|by Anonymous||reply 144||November 20, 2023 1:25 AM|
Want to feel old? Hillary is now the only surviving American First Lady from the twentieth century.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||November 20, 2023 1:28 AM|
R136, One can clearly feel the contempt Patti feels for her brother in the first few minutes of this 2016 interview.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||November 20, 2023 1:29 AM|
Jimmy was right about Trump stealing the election. He's observed enough elections
|by Anonymous||reply 147||November 20, 2023 1:31 AM|
Exactly, R147, and in addition Jimmy knew the Russian ways. He understood Putin better than any PResident who came after him.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||November 20, 2023 1:34 AM|
R146, both Maria & her cousin Caroline attended Nancy's funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||November 20, 2023 1:38 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 150||November 20, 2023 1:39 AM|
Maria Shriver & Nancy Reagan were both former first ladies of California.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||November 20, 2023 1:47 AM|
The thing about Rosalynn and Jimmy is that t hey did the work. They didn't pose, or mouth platitudes, or admonish people to "just say no!" or any other bullshit. They showed up and they did the work.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||November 20, 2023 2:17 AM|
Did Rose A Lynn show poosy to nice man to get arranged marriage?
|by Anonymous||reply 153||November 20, 2023 2:21 AM|
R145, Frances Cleveland was the last surviving 19th Century First Lady; she died in 1947.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||November 20, 2023 2:24 AM|
Thanks for sharing, VOTN.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||November 20, 2023 2:28 AM|
Even if Daddy and the Slovenian whore dont show up, I bet the Feckless Cunt, Jared, and maybe Junior (+ Gargoyle) will crash the funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||November 20, 2023 2:30 AM|
Hopefully Jimmy won't have to carry on too long without her.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||November 20, 2023 2:30 AM|
R157, it seems she died at home. When they announced Friday, that she'd entered Hospice care they meant no more hospitals, just keep her comfortable. And that means Jimmy was probably with her when she passed. So they said their good byes, but I agree, I believe Jimmy will not be far behind. A matter of weeks at most.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||November 20, 2023 2:56 AM|
MSNBC announces Mrs Carter's death
|by Anonymous||reply 159||November 20, 2023 3:06 AM|
RIP pretty first lady - you man will meet you soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||November 20, 2023 3:16 AM|
I think it had been some time since a US President or First Lady has died below the age of 90.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||November 20, 2023 3:16 AM|
[quote]That cunt Melania had better not show up.
She'd be as nervous as a whore in church.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||November 20, 2023 3:44 AM|
She'd BE a whore in church!
|by Anonymous||reply 163||November 20, 2023 4:05 AM|
Jackie was 64 when she died in 1994, R161. And Pat Nixon was 81 when she died a year earlier.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||November 20, 2023 6:34 AM|
So let me get this straight… Jimmy Carter’s daughter June married Van Johnson?
|by Anonymous||reply 165||November 20, 2023 6:43 AM|
No, R165, it was his daughter Lynda. And she married Van Heflin.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||November 20, 2023 6:52 AM|
Regarding what r59 wrote— Rosalynn did the White House tour with Nancy in 1980, but Nancy, true to form, acted like a cunt. From the Kitty Kelley book:
“The traditional tour of the White House for the future First Lady, conducted on November 20, 1980, had been especially uncomfortable for Rosalynn Carter, who was still smarting from her husband’s humiliating defeat.
“It was awkward, totally awkward,” recalled Mary Finch Hoyt, Mrs. Carter’s press secretary. “I felt so protective of Rosalynn at that point, having somebody just come into your house and open up your closets, which is exactly what happened. … After all, Mrs. Carter was still First Lady, and the White House was still her home.”
Another Carter aide was shocked to hear Mrs. Reagan say, “Where are the closets? Betty Ford says you’ve got some great closets around here. That’s what I’d like to see first. The closets.”
“Mrs. Carter was cordial,” continued Mary Hoyt, “but it was difficult for her, especially when she tried to describe the history of some of the rooms and all Nancy Reagan wanted to know about was the closet space. Mrs. Carter was quite shocked by that
. Later she said, ‘All she cared about was the closets. That’s all she cared about. Closets. Closets. Closets.’ I think that was the point where Rosalynn turned the tour over to the chief “usher, Rex Scouten, who finished escorting Mrs. Reagan through the state rooms.
Then Mrs. Reagan insisted on coming back two more times with her decorator, Ted Graber, to go over the floor plans and check out the closets again. They came once while the Carters were at Camp David.”
In briefing the press later, (press secretary ) Robin Orr said Mrs. Reagan had been shown everything “except for two of the kids’ rooms, which Mrs. Carter said weren’t tidy enough to be seen.”
Mamie Eisenhower was a cunt to Jackie on their tour. Jackie was recuperating from JFK Jr’s birth and was using a wheelchair at the time if she had to walk long distances. Jackie’s people asked for a wheelchair to be available in case it was needed. When Mamie heard, she refused to allow this and made Jackie walk the length of the White House with her.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||November 20, 2023 7:06 AM|
Worried about closer spaces to fill with clothing she did not pay for.
The humiliating defeat was also a grift.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||November 20, 2023 7:22 AM|
Worried about closet spaces to fill with clothing she did not pay for.
The humiliating defeat was also a grift.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||November 20, 2023 7:23 AM|
I recall that Nancy also asked the Carters if they could move out of the White House, to Blair House, before the inauguration.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||November 20, 2023 11:23 AM|
R164. Yes, so not for almost 30 years. Notably the two most recent deaths below 90 were of smokers.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||November 20, 2023 3:45 PM|
Although Richard Nixon was not and he died shortly after his wife.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||November 20, 2023 3:48 PM|
^ Interestingly - or not - the ten-month older Pat lived almost the exact number of days as Dick, with each dying at 81 years & 3+ months.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||November 20, 2023 4:01 PM|
Fun fact: Nixon was so desperate to woo Pat that he used to drive her to dates with other men. Just another element of the general weirdness that comprised Richard Nixon.
He cried at her funeral, thus proving that he really did have a heart in there somewhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||November 20, 2023 4:17 PM|
Interesting, both presidents Reagan and Ford went to Pat’s funeral. Reagan was no longer president by then, it was June 1993. I wonder if Dump will be invited to anyone’s funeral (ex-presidents and spouses). Maybe he’ll precede them and Melania will show up wearing a red dress.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||November 20, 2023 4:22 PM|
Nixon was pissed that neither Clinton came to Pat’s funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||November 20, 2023 4:28 PM|
How old was Barbara Bush when she died, and when did George H.W.Bush die?
|by Anonymous||reply 177||November 20, 2023 4:38 PM|
She finally did something about those age spots, r177.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||November 20, 2023 4:43 PM|
R176, Nixon was especially angry that Hillary did not attend Pat’s funeral.
A sitting President flying across the country to attend a former First Lady’s funeral is a stretch, especially where I doubt they ever even met.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||November 20, 2023 4:46 PM|
Both Clintons attended Jackie O’s funeral but Bill only went to the graveside service. It was in DC so presumably it wasn’t too far a stretch to travel to.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||November 20, 2023 4:48 PM|
R172, Barbara died in April 2018 at 92. Her husband died later that year.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||November 20, 2023 4:48 PM|
Eleanor Roosevelt had four Presidents at her 1962 funeral, and Jackie.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||November 20, 2023 4:49 PM|
Funeral services have been announced.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||November 20, 2023 4:50 PM|
[quote] Eleanor Roosevelt had four Presidents at her 1962 funeral, and Jackie.
People were more civilized back then, and had respect for the President and First Lady.
Nowdays, people are all trash.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||November 20, 2023 4:52 PM|
The funeral plans are further away than I expected. Maybe to give Jimmy enough time to die, too, so they can have a joint funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||November 20, 2023 4:53 PM|
Traffic snarls in Atlanta. Be prepared. I might go over to the Carter Center and leave a nice little bouquet from TJ's but I'll do it this week, so when Rosalynn comes she will see all the beautiful flowers.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||November 20, 2023 4:53 PM|
R182, Jackie, Lady Bird and Bess Truman were at Eleanor’s funeral, but no sign of Mamie Eisenhower.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||November 20, 2023 4:54 PM|
[quote] I might go over to the Carter Center and leave a nice little bouquet from TJ's but I'll do it this week, so when Rosalynn comes she will see all the beautiful flowers.
Rosalynn won't be "seeing" anything.
Because she's dead.
But it's nice of you to take flowers. Other people will be able to enjoy them.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||November 20, 2023 4:55 PM|
R184, Eleanor Roosevelt would rank highly on a list of American Presidents, much less a list of First Ladies. One of the most influential American women in history, full stop.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||November 20, 2023 4:55 PM|
Technically, only three, R182, as LBJ would have to wait another year before he became president.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||November 20, 2023 4:56 PM|
[quote] no sign of Mamie Eisenhower
She was busy at Area 51, working with the aliens.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||November 20, 2023 4:57 PM|
[quote]no sign of Mamie Eisenhower
She had to wash her bangs.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||November 20, 2023 4:59 PM|
Do our non-US contributors - who may likely be bypassing this thread - shake their heads in disbelief in the interest Americans have in the families of their head of government?
|by Anonymous||reply 193||November 20, 2023 5:01 PM|
You know, context is everything. When Eleanor was First Lady running all over the place and making speeches,, writing a newspaper column, it was completely unheard of, especially for a woman of her class. And she topped it off by being the first chairman of the United Nations Commission on Human Rights. I think the most consequential First Ladies were Abigail Adams, Eleanor Roosevelt, Jacqueline Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. Rosalynn made significant contributions too.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||November 20, 2023 5:07 PM|
R185, Obviously, they wanted to wait until after Thanksgiving.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||November 20, 2023 5:09 PM|
She’s being buried in her former back yard?
|by Anonymous||reply 196||November 20, 2023 5:11 PM|
R195, they could have had her funeral Tuesday or Wednesday.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||November 20, 2023 5:16 PM|
R194, I would place Lady Bird above Jackie in my ranking of consequential First Ladies.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||November 20, 2023 5:17 PM|
R197, Too soon for those traveling to Georgia, especially this week.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||November 20, 2023 5:19 PM|
How much longer will 95-year-old Ethel Kennedy be with us?
Yes, she was not a FLOTUS, but the media will treat her death as if she were.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||November 20, 2023 5:29 PM|
I loved Ethel’s response to Tom Brokaw’s 20th assassination anniversary interview when he asked her why she had never remarried. “I had the best,” she said. The forever youthful Bobby would be 98 today were he still alive.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||November 20, 2023 5:34 PM|
[quote]Do our non-US contributors - who may likely be bypassing this thread - shake their heads in disbelief in the interest Americans have in the families of their head of government?
Some people have an interest in historical figures, r193.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||November 20, 2023 5:36 PM|
[quote]I loved Ethel’s response to Tom Brokaw’s 20th assassination anniversary interview when he asked her why she had never remarried. “Nobody asked” she said.
Fixed it for you
|by Anonymous||reply 203||November 20, 2023 5:38 PM|
How ironic, Mrs. Lincoln, that our greatest president was married to you, perhaps our worst First Lady.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||November 20, 2023 5:40 PM|
After Jimmy passes, I think the next former President to die will be George W. Bush. He really looks like shit these days. I think he never quit drinking and will die of cirrohis or pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately for the world, it should be Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||November 20, 2023 6:12 PM|
R205 I think
|by Anonymous||reply 206||November 20, 2023 6:19 PM|
Another interesting fact is that Trump, W. & Clinton, in that order, were born in three successive months of 1946. And although the 1950s were the peak of the Baby Boom, it’s looking very likely that the decade will not produce a president. Like the 1930s & 1810s. The only decades not to produce a president following Washington’s 1730s representation.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||November 20, 2023 6:25 PM|
Let’s arrange a one-way ticket to Tallahassee for Wendi.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||November 20, 2023 6:26 PM|
^ Oops, wrong thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||November 20, 2023 6:33 PM|
R194, I would add to that list Dolley Madison, who really created the uniquely unofficial position of First Lady and the concept of bipartisanship in our early government. She not only ran Washington during her husband’s time in office, she lived for a decade across the street from the White House and was the grand dame of Washington.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||November 20, 2023 6:54 PM|
[quote] I would add to that list Dolley Madison
I fucking love her desserts.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||November 20, 2023 6:56 PM|
[quote] It was in DC
Actually a little outside of the District.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||November 20, 2023 6:59 PM|
It is interacting to think that had Ethel become First Lady we would still have a living First Lady from1969.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||November 20, 2023 7:29 PM|
[quote] And although the 1950s were the peak of the Baby Boom, it’s looking very likely that the decade will not produce a president.
Given that US presidential nominees are becoming more and more ancient, I wouldn't rule it out.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||November 20, 2023 7:36 PM|
If Ethel had become First Lady she probably would have popped out 2-3 more kids while in the White House. She had just turned 40 when RFK died and she loved being pregnant.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||November 20, 2023 7:41 PM|
R214, I thought Andrew Cuomo was a possibility, but that’s not going to happen. And there aren’t any serious candidates left in either party for ‘28 & beyond who were born in the ‘50s who are being mentioned.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||November 20, 2023 7:42 PM|
I think after Carter dies, Clinton will be next. He looks pretty frail.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||November 20, 2023 7:48 PM|
Andrew Cuomo would have been great. Sometimes I wonder if he was sabotaged by the Repukes.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||November 20, 2023 7:49 PM|
R215, Ethel had her children via Caesarian, so they were cut out of her.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||November 20, 2023 7:52 PM|
R218, Andrew was sabotaged by the State Democratic Party. LOL! They couldn't stand him. He was always a prick and when his father was alive he made a lot of enemies. He has a very unattractive personality, he is very arrogant and doesn't deal with the horse trading necessary to get things done. He was lucky he had COVID. It was similar to 9/11 making Rudy look good.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||November 20, 2023 8:04 PM|
R219. I thought there was a limit to the number of caesareans you could have.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||November 20, 2023 8:36 PM|
I think we need to expand our search. The media either overlooks Harris or makes fun of her. Determined to promote the impression "no one likes her" or that she is incompetent. I am not going to take the bait. And remember how they trashed Amy? Kamala is really is doing a very good job. I follow her on instagram and twitter and her husband too. I also follow Hillary, and the Bidens. I follow the Obamas. I follow Pete and Amy. If all you do is depend on the so called mainstream media you will not get anything resembling a decent perspective. The media is all about hype, promoting fear and division and controversies. Klobuchar is great, but we need her in the Senate and I hope to God Schumer steps aside in 2025 so she can assume a leadership role. Kamala and Elizabeth Warren together would make a great ticket. Right now we have to make sure Sherrod Brown gets re elected in Ohio. Ruben Gallegos in Arizona (He's primarying Sinema.) And Who ever replaces Feinstein. There's a couple more. Manchin. We have to keep that seat Democratic.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||November 20, 2023 8:37 PM|
[quote](He's primarying Sinema.)
He doesn't have to primary her because she left the Democratic party.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||November 20, 2023 8:54 PM|
R223. You're right. I forgot. Well, anyway he ought to win. And if she runs as a 3rd party candidate we may get the Squirrely Kari Lake Crazy Lady. So we have a lot of work to do. Let's also pray that Mitch McConnell does the right thing...and dies.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||November 20, 2023 8:57 PM|
[quote]I’m bringing Bill with me to the funeral because I am not sitting next to Michelle.
Why not? You sat next to her at Betty Ford's memorial service just fine!
On that topic, Rosalynn Carter gave a speech at Betty's memorial (not her funeral) which used to be online in its entirety and it was quite beautiful. As many know in their post-Presidential years the Fords and the Carters developed a deep friendship. In her lovely, soft speaking voice Rosalynn ended her remarks about Betty Ford by simply saying, "It was my privilege to know her" and you wanted to cry, it was so simple and honest.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||November 20, 2023 8:59 PM|
[quote] s many know in their post-Presidential years the Fords and the Carters developed a deep friendship.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Their mutual oathing of the Reagans brought them together.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||November 20, 2023 9:14 PM|
I bet Rosalynn couldn't suck a cock like a professional!
|by Anonymous||reply 227||November 20, 2023 9:16 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 228||November 20, 2023 9:17 PM|
R221, That is usually true, but if the mother is in excellent physical condition and has a strong stomach wall, multiple Caesarians are not an issue.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||November 20, 2023 9:34 PM|
R229. She did have 11, however. Seems her womb would just be a mass of incisions.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||November 20, 2023 10:23 PM|
[quote]I fucking love her desserts.
Dolly Madison desserts must have been named after someone else, because the onetime first lady's first name is misspelled.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||November 20, 2023 11:02 PM|
R230, From an Internet site . . .
“Deborah had done nursing training before her marriage so she read up all the books she could find, searching for information about Caesarean birth. "It seems to be there is a whole area that doctors just don't know about. That's why they try to make me afraid." One encouraging fact was that Ethel Kennedy had all of her 11 children by Caesarean.
By the time her seventh baby was born, Laser treatment was being used during the operation which speeded up the healing of her wound. "I bounced back and came home on the third day," she said.“
|by Anonymous||reply 232||November 20, 2023 11:17 PM|
That funeral schedule might be the thing that finally takes Jimmy out.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||November 21, 2023 1:36 AM|
R232. The idea that she had 11 caesareans seems to be an internet myth. Contemporary accounts report five, which is still quite a large number.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||November 21, 2023 1:40 AM|
R234, Jackie had four Caesarian births.
“Kennedy's first pregnancy in 1955 ended in a miscarriage; she gave birth by cesarean to a stillborn daughter, Arabella, in 1956; Caroline was born via planned cesarean in 1957; and John Jr. was born via emergency cesarean in 1960. Patrick was born via cesarean in 1963. Her five pregnancies had resulted in only two living children.”
|by Anonymous||reply 235||November 21, 2023 1:48 AM|
Please let me know if you want me to start a thread on Ethel and Jackie’s uteruses, and whether their fetuses were pushed out of their stretched out pussies or surgically removed. I am sure the dessicated old queens here are experts on birth canals and vaginas.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||November 21, 2023 1:56 AM|
I know what jimmy’s mother thought about her uterus and what came out of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||November 21, 2023 1:59 AM|
Fun fact-Miz Lillian’s uncle was Berry Gordy’s grandfather.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||November 21, 2023 2:03 AM|
You type cunty, R236.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||November 21, 2023 2:04 AM|
Thanks cunt at r239
|by Anonymous||reply 240||November 21, 2023 2:09 AM|
R239. But he is amusing.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||November 21, 2023 2:10 AM|
Here she is with mass murderer and war criminal George W. Bush:
|by Anonymous||reply 242||November 21, 2023 2:13 AM|
Bette Davis interviews Rosalynn Carter @ 31:08.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||November 21, 2023 2:17 AM|
Cesareans were sometimes used to prevent STIs being transmitted from mother to child during labor. Ethel and Jackie must have been riddled with diseases.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||November 21, 2023 2:25 AM|
Miss Lillian delivered Rosalynn & all her siblings.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||November 21, 2023 2:26 AM|
I didn't attend Mrs. Roosevelt's funeral because I needed a "me day" with my butler Roscoe.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||November 21, 2023 2:30 AM|
Perhaps the funeral was on the same day that Mamie Eisenhower always set aside to inventory her supply of canned creamed spinach.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||November 21, 2023 2:36 AM|
Will the Tyler grandson attend?
|by Anonymous||reply 248||November 21, 2023 3:30 AM|
I don't think anyone loathed the Reagans more than Barbara Bush. And talk about how a VP has to be a good soldier,, you have to believe that Bush 41 was ten times smarter than Ronnie and had to grit his teeth many times.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||November 21, 2023 4:04 AM|
Bar Busk loathed everyone. Bush Sr was a bit of a dim bulb.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||November 21, 2023 4:10 AM|
Before I go to ladies funeral, show me farm where they grow penis.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||November 21, 2023 4:28 AM|
Bar Bush was an old cunt!
|by Anonymous||reply 252||November 21, 2023 5:16 AM|
Bar had a vagina full of teeth and razor blades.
Nancy could unhinge her jaw, like a python devouring prey. Her mouth could then open wide, like barn doors, and take in large objects, which is why she is the undefeated greatest Hollywood cocksucker of all time.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||November 21, 2023 6:55 AM|
[quote]Bar Bush was an old cunt!
Which is why she's a DL icon.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||November 21, 2023 9:57 AM|
[quote] Bush 41 was ten times smarter than Ronnie
Which means he had a grand total of ten brain cells
|by Anonymous||reply 255||November 21, 2023 1:21 PM|
That Roxanne Carter! She’s a hoot!
|by Anonymous||reply 256||November 21, 2023 1:44 PM|
When I said Bush 41, was 10 times smarter than Ronnie, I was not suggesting Bush was any kind of rocket scientist. LOL! And next time someone tries to talk to you about their concerns about Biden's age, please remind them that Reagan suffered from Alzheimer's and was shielded from exposure by the press, as much as by the White House. Many of them knew. I'd go bike riding with Joe any day. My enduring image of Trump is a picture of him boarding Air Force One with toilet paper trailing from his shoes. Trump's rants grow more violent and more vicious and threatening every single day. The rants of someone who is clearly unstable and disturbed. So I'm fine with Joe stumbling on a name now and then. Joe's slip ups are not indicative of anything. I'm in my 60's and I sometimes have problems remember the names of my nieces and nephews. All the shit about Biden being old is really not so veiled attacks on Kamala. The Republicans do not want to deal with her and they are very pissed off about the way she did them on Judiciary. She was fucking lethal.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||November 21, 2023 5:09 PM|
R174 I read here on datalounge nixon was a wife beater
|by Anonymous||reply 258||November 21, 2023 5:35 PM|
R258, I've read several books about Nixon, or his role in various messes, and I've also read he was abusive, not necessarily physically, but more like a psychological and emotional abuser. And a drunk. He and Pat were alcoholics. Another secret hidden from the public. You know, with all these former Trump aides coming forward talking about how dangerous he is and he shouldn't be POTUS, they always cite some incidents or situation in the WH where they alone prevented some major catastrophe. Now I don't doubt them, and I'll safely bet Trump's WH was even worse than described, but it made me think about these previous PResidents and how they had serious flaws that we never heard about.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||November 21, 2023 5:46 PM|
I feel like we're all here at Rosalynn's wake, gossiping....
|by Anonymous||reply 260||November 21, 2023 5:47 PM|
[quote] Bar Bush was an old cunt!
That old bitch had everybody's number, including her dipshit son Dubya. And that's why we love her at the DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||November 21, 2023 6:17 PM|
Mrs. Carter's funeral(s) will begin on Monday the 27th. On Monday she'll lay in repose at Ga. Southwestern Univ. in Americus, Ga.. Then on Tuesday she will be taken to the Carter Presidential Center in Atlanta to lay in repose there with a funeral service held at Glenn Memorial Church on the campus of Emory University/Atlanta. She will then be returned to Plains for a 2nd funeral on Wednesday at their local church, with burial on the Carter family home grounds.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||November 21, 2023 6:26 PM|
I wonder if Jimmy will be able to attend the Service? I'm going to say yes, he will be at their local Church in Plains. But I don't think he will make the rest of the journey. Although he might just go to the Carter Center briefly. I also wonder if Andrew Young will show up He is in his 90's now and in a wheel chair. May not be up to it, but he is certainly a very close friend. Jimmy appointed him Ambassador to the U.N. and he was a Congressman from Georgia before he was Mayor.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||November 21, 2023 6:30 PM|
Jimmy stopped his cancer treatments, probably in an effort to let Rosalynn go first. That kind of love story is rare but knowing it happens gives this crusty old curmudgeon hope.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||November 21, 2023 9:34 PM|
Who will deliver the eulogy at the service at Emory?
|by Anonymous||reply 265||November 21, 2023 9:40 PM|
She and Jimmy will be buried under a willow tree on the family home property. The Carter's home sits on property that is managed by the federal government and will always be.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||November 21, 2023 11:28 PM|
Not after I cut the budget for that! HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 267||November 22, 2023 12:39 AM|
A charming Rosalynn talks to David Letterman & 14-year old Amy.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||November 22, 2023 3:10 AM|
[quote]She and Jimmy will be buried under a willow tree on the family home property.
I suppose they thought a golf course wasn't good enough for them!
|by Anonymous||reply 269||November 22, 2023 3:45 AM|
Amy Carter was the ugly daughter prior to the ugly daughter of Chelsea Clinton.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||November 22, 2023 7:39 AM|
This neighbor friend from Plains says she cooked for them several times a month for years, and the other day Jimmy had some spaghetti after Rosalynn passed on. She cooked a big batch for the family and she'd be cooking Jimmy some bacon and eggs today. So it seems like, to me, Jimmy is able to eat solid foods etc. and his hospice decision is more one about not wanting to go to the hospital and get treated for anything, instead just stay home and be comfortable. Palliative care.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||November 22, 2023 12:51 PM|
I wonder if Laura Bush, Hillary, and Michelle will be there. I expect Jill Biden to attend.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||November 22, 2023 1:26 PM|
^Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||November 22, 2023 3:02 PM|
Laura Bush would consider it bad manners to not attend. She will avoid the spotlight and write the family a private handwritten note of condolences.
Hillary always goes because Rosalynn was a Democrat. Hillary likes to be seen in public, but won't make any public comments.
Michelle and Barack will go and probably draw a lot of attention. They can't help it. They will probably make public comments too.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||November 22, 2023 3:07 PM|
I don't think Barack will come. Only Michelle. First ladies for the former First Ladies. It's only going to be a short time until they all have to gather for Jimmy. Al Gore was close to Jimmy. I have no idea whether there will be anyone from the Gore family. The cool people I was familiar with from his campaign and his administration are all dead. Hamilton Jordan, Jody Powell, Gerald Rafshoon.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||November 22, 2023 5:03 PM|
R275 Michael Blumenthal is still around. He might be the last one besides Jimmy.
Cyrus Vance and James Schlesinger died a long time ago. Zbigniew Brzezinski died a few years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||November 22, 2023 5:10 PM|
Will either of the surviving Mondale kids be present?
|by Anonymous||reply 277||November 22, 2023 5:20 PM|
I'm in Atlanta and thinking about going to the Carter Center on Tuesday. I honestly worry about covid tho after Thanksgiving get togethers. And I'll say it again. Rosalynn had amazing style. How in the hell did she manage to look timeless in the 70s? When you do see her in a really 70's outfit, it's a flattering look of a cool 70's trend.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||November 22, 2023 6:03 PM|
[quote] Current first lady Jill Biden, as well as Vice President Kamala Harris and second gentleman Doug Emhoff, are also scheduled to travel to Atlanta for the services
|by Anonymous||reply 279||November 23, 2023 3:22 AM|
Smart for Biden to go to Georgia.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||November 23, 2023 3:29 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 281||November 23, 2023 3:53 AM|
The Carters were very decent people. We now live in a world where decency is scarce.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||November 23, 2023 9:23 PM|
[quote] I bet Melania will go
Ivanka more likely.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||November 23, 2023 9:25 PM|
[quote]I bet Melania will go
Not without her "I really don't care" jacket.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||November 24, 2023 9:23 AM|
Theodore White, the chronicler of US presidential campaigns for decades through the 1980 election, wrote that there were only four candidates he covered he was sure were faithful to their wives. I can’t remember the fourth one, but the other three - I believe - were Harry Truman, George Romney & Jimmy Carter.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||November 24, 2023 8:29 PM|
I was mistaken. There were not four faithful men, only the three I named:
"The acceptance of casual partners was a part of politicians’ lives, White wrote in his memoir. Among the scores of politicians he knew, he said he was reasonably certain that only three — Harry Truman, George Romney and Jimmy Carter — 'had denied themselves the pleasures' of extramarital liaisons."
|by Anonymous||reply 286||November 24, 2023 9:00 PM|
^ There’s a lot of candidates in that era not mentioned that surprise me.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||November 25, 2023 2:56 AM|
I can’t see Gerald Ford fooling around on Betty. Or Ronald Reagan, for that matter; I am pretty sure Nancy carried his cock and balls around in a Judith Lieber purse.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||November 25, 2023 4:15 AM|
Yeah, R288, but White was obviously in a much better position to make that judgment.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||November 25, 2023 12:12 PM|
R286, Who would want to stray when he had this at home?
|by Anonymous||reply 290||November 25, 2023 12:38 PM|
Come keep me company, Rosalynn.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||November 25, 2023 12:46 PM|
Of course, Donald Trump's rise predated Teddy White. Surely, White would have included Trump among the few faithful.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||November 25, 2023 2:04 PM|
R292, Not to mention a certain former Governor of Arkansas.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||November 25, 2023 2:20 PM|
Mitt, like his father, would surely have landed on White's list.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||November 25, 2023 2:42 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 295||November 25, 2023 5:20 PM|
Bette Davis interviews Rosalynn Carter for the Dinah Shore Show (at 31:08):
|by Anonymous||reply 296||November 25, 2023 6:42 PM|
R296 is a plagiarist.
|by Anonymous||reply 297||November 25, 2023 6:47 PM|
It doesn't sound like Jimmy is in anything close to good shape but he plans on coming to the funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||November 25, 2023 11:25 PM|
R182 JFK not wearing an overcoat.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||November 25, 2023 11:39 PM|
R257 You don't think Biden has been shielded by the press? I haven't seen mainstream media expose his feebleness the way independent media has. Where are the in-depth interviews with the tough, probing questions?
|by Anonymous||reply 300||November 25, 2023 11:42 PM|
[quote] I haven't seen mainstream media expose his feebleness the way independent media has.
Please share some clips to the non partisan independent media you are referring to.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||November 25, 2023 11:49 PM|
Btw ^^^: here is the highly respected Columbia Journalism Review out with a new report that says:
[quote] Political coverage at even the largest and most consequential newspapers consists almost exclusively of horse race reporting and campaign gossip. Actual issue and policy examinations were nearly nonexistent.”
[quote] We found that the Times and the Post shared significant overlap in their domestic politics coverage, offering little insight into policy. Both emphasized the horse race and campaign palace intrigue, stories that functioned more to entertain readers than to educate them on essential differences between political parties. The main point of contrast we found between the two papers was that, while the Post delved more into topics Democrats generally want to discuss—affirmative action, police reform, LGBTQ rights—the Times tended to focus on subjects important to Republicans—China, immigration, and crime.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||November 25, 2023 11:57 PM|
The pic of JFK with Truman in R182’s link reminds of the great quote from Truman in 1960 about candidate JFK. The famously anti-Joe Kennedy made it clear that it wasn’t JFK’s Catholicism that troubled him. “It’s the pop, not the Pope,” Truman emphasized.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||November 26, 2023 12:01 AM|
R299, Nor did he wear one on his Inauguration Day, when it was freezing cold.
Instead, he wore thermal long underwear..
|by Anonymous||reply 304||November 26, 2023 12:26 AM|
Nancy had their master bedroom wallpapered with something out of a Hitchcock movie! Birds all over the bedroom walls. I don't know how they slept.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||November 26, 2023 12:55 AM|
Jimmy will be in his wheelchair. Barring some unforeseen event, I doubt anyone would want to tell him he could not be at his wife's funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||November 26, 2023 3:26 AM|
If the pic from the summer parade is indicative of how he now looks, I think most will be shocked at his appearance.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||November 26, 2023 3:32 AM|
[quote]Or Ronald Reagan, for that matter; I am pretty sure Nancy carried his cock and balls around in a Judith Lieber purse.
Supposedly he cheated on her while he was governor. He said something to the effect that wives always know.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||November 26, 2023 5:59 AM|
[quote] Nor did he wear one on his Inauguration Day, when it was freezing cold. Instead, he wore thermal long underwear..
Now why didn't I think of that?
|by Anonymous||reply 309||November 26, 2023 2:53 PM|
All the former First Ladies will be in attendance. Ali Velshi, filling in for Nicolle Wallace, reported at the end of the show that Laura, Michelle & Melania would be present. He did not include Hillary.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||November 27, 2023 11:34 PM|
CBS is reporting both Clintons will be in attendance.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||November 27, 2023 11:50 PM|
Even though Hillary was First Lady for 8 years, it feels like everyone thinks of her as a former Senator, Secretary of State or Presidential Candidate.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||November 27, 2023 11:55 PM|
[quote]Even though Hillary was First Lady for 8 years, it feels like everyone thinks of her as a former Senator, Secretary of State or Presidential Candidate
Gee, I can't imagine why.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||November 28, 2023 12:19 AM|
R313. None of those roles would lead to an automatic invitation to the funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 314||November 28, 2023 12:21 AM|
Never heard of her
|by Anonymous||reply 315||November 28, 2023 12:23 AM|
I don't get your point, r314. She was all of those things...including First Lady. I don't know of anybody who has forgotten she was the latter.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||November 28, 2023 12:25 AM|
The subject of Mrs. Carter’s death came up in a conversation I had with a woman who works for a family member. One thing led to another with her expressing her understanding that it was a requirement that a president be married. I said no, the Constitution only requires that you be at least 35 & a naturalized US citizen.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||November 28, 2023 3:37 AM|
R316. The pont is that although those other positions are arguably greater accomplishments, you don’t get the kind of prominence from them that you get from being First Lady. In the long run, that is primarily what she will be remembered fur and why she received an automatic invitation to the ceremony.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||November 28, 2023 4:23 AM|
R317 I thought you also had to be born in the United States, not a naturalized citizen. A naturalized citizen is one who was not born here but acquires citizenship.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||November 28, 2023 6:02 AM|
Not so, R319. Both John McCain & George Romney were born outside the US to American parents.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||November 28, 2023 6:42 AM|
“Look at that. Just enough seats for the legitimate wives.”
|by Anonymous||reply 321||November 28, 2023 7:17 AM|
Melania should not be there. She never wanted to be Vairst Leddy and did next to nothing in the role, exceptdenounce Christmas and chop down Jackie O's rose garden. She has not participated in Turd's latest fake POTUS campaign donation grift. Her husband is a lying, cheating, thieving insurrectionist and election denier. And the Carter's hated them.
I hope someine throws a pie at her.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||November 28, 2023 8:34 AM|
R320 et Al, from Wikipedia:
The U.S. Constitution uses but does not define the phrase "natural born Citizen" and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its exact meaning. The consensus of early 21st-century constitutional and legal scholars, together with relevant case law, is that natural-born citizens include, subject to exceptions, those born in the United States. As to those born elsewhere who meet the legal requirements for birthright citizenship, the consensus emerging as of 2016 was that they also are natural-born citizens.
It definitely is confusing, but I believe McCain and Romney were born in US territories, so they are considered natural-born citizens.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||November 28, 2023 1:21 PM|
R323, Romney was born in Mexico to missionary Mormon Americans. McCain was born to an American military couple stationed outside the then-48 United States. But wherever he was born, he or someone similarly situated would be eligible to be president.
|by Anonymous||reply 324||November 28, 2023 2:12 PM|
I remember when this came up about Governor Jennifer Granholm, and even earlier about Kissinger. Granholm was a favorite of Bidens when he was VP. He appointed her our Energy Secretary. But when she was governor of Michigan she was an up and coming Democratic star, and speculation rose asto her eligibility to run for POTUS. She was born in Canada to Canadian parents. She was Canadian until she became an American citizen. Same with Kissinger, back in the 70's, when he had his 5 minutes of popularity, the "swinging bachelor" who was a shameless self promoter.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||November 28, 2023 3:51 PM|
Yes, Granholm, along with Schwarzenegger, would not be eligible.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||November 28, 2023 4:03 PM|
Wow, the Robbs are both walking with canes.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||November 28, 2023 6:12 PM|
^ I love seeing the past White House families at these gatherings.
|by Anonymous||reply 328||November 28, 2023 6:15 PM|
Jonathan Alter is confirming why Jimmy went into hospice, to be present for Rosalynn. Not because he was especially near to death.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||November 28, 2023 6:24 PM|
I need to go to MSNBC. Aside from the First Ladies and the two PResidents I didn't see any of the others. Fuck CNN.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||November 28, 2023 8:05 PM|
Jimmy can't speak. I remember when that happened to my mother who was 91. It was just a couple of weeks until she finally decided to let go and slip away.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||November 28, 2023 8:09 PM|
R330, I was on MSNBC, and I only saw the Robbs. I believe all the channels use the same feed, so you didn't miss anything..
|by Anonymous||reply 332||November 28, 2023 8:13 PM|
I thought I saw Julie Nixon in the church Her hair was shoulder length, reddish blonde and she was wearing glasses.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||November 28, 2023 8:34 PM|
I didn't see Julie. That would be a surprise since, as noted upthread, her sister has been the sole family representative for years.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||November 28, 2023 8:46 PM|
R174 "He’s not that big but he knows how to satisfy a girl".
|by Anonymous||reply 335||November 29, 2023 2:34 AM|
Her husband, the former POTUS who is very ill and in a decline showed up to the funeral to pay his respects to his late wife. Class. Act. I am so sorry to see them go.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||November 29, 2023 3:03 AM|
My friend Julie is a major CUNT R334!
|by Anonymous||reply 337||November 29, 2023 6:01 AM|
Julie & her husband endorsed Obama in ‘08,
|by Anonymous||reply 338||November 29, 2023 5:43 PM|