This generation is revolting.
Gen Z TikTok users post support for Osama Bin Laden’s anti-American propaganda letter
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 23, 2023 9:17 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 19, 2023 6:51 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 19, 2023 6:51 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 19, 2023 6:51 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 19, 2023 6:52 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 19, 2023 6:52 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 19, 2023 6:52 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 19, 2023 6:52 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 19, 2023 6:53 PM|
Who'd have known that Tanequa, Sholandra, Eboni et al would be so clued in to Middle Eastern politics.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 19, 2023 6:59 PM|
The Guardian has now deleted the letter on their website after this Tik Tok thing. So did a lot of other media companies. Now it's very hard to find it anywhere on-line. It's like the powers that be don't want people reading what's in it.
It's also interesting that even though the letter has been out now for 20 plus year now, the media made no effort to report on it or its contents in that time. Why might that be?
The official spin after 9/11 was that we were attacked by terrorists because of our 'freedoms' which they didn't like. I remember Netanyahu was even saying how dangerous it was for Israel to continue to support the USA 'cause it made them a target.
Well, the contents of this letter make clear the motivation for the attacks was in part because of America's unwavering (economic, military, diplomatic) support for Israel which basically according to them was created after stealing Arab lands and its dispossession of its native residents.
Funny how no one, President Bush, mainstream media (CNN, NBC, ABC, NY Times et al), Netanyahu etc etc . would mention any of this coming to light as their reason/motivation for attacking us.
Now why wouldn't they want US citizens to know the real motivations behind the planning and implementation of these 'terrorist' acts? You figure it out.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 19, 2023 7:16 PM|
Do LaShaquanishia, Candesha, Charrdannay or LaQuanrda not feel conflicted that McDonalds is being targeted by Pro-Palestine?
Ain't that where they do their weekly grocery shopping.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 19, 2023 7:34 PM|
Now I really want to read the damn thing!
I do love how these kids ALL react the same way (ie, "I'm having an existential crisis..."). It's almost like they have no critical skills and just ape what someone else said before them.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 19, 2023 11:17 PM|
Naw. They are just ignorant - having never gotten a good public school education.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 19, 2023 11:19 PM|
I read it on the Newsweek site.
I’ll probably get hate but some parts are fucking spot on. 🤷🏻♀️
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 19, 2023 11:25 PM|
FULL TEXT: OSAMA BIN LADEN'S 'LETTER TO AMERICA'
November 24, 2002
Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple: (1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.
a) You attacked us in Palestine:
(i) Palestine, which has sunk under military occupation for more than 80 years. The British handed over Palestine, with your help and your support, to the Jews, who have occupied it for more than 50 years; years overflowing with oppression, tyranny, crimes, killing, expulsion, destruction and devastation. The creation and continuation of Israel is one of the greatest crimes, and you are the leaders of its criminals. And of course there is no need to explain and prove the degree of American support for Israel. The creation of Israel is a crime which must be erased. Each and every person whose hands have become polluted in the contribution towards this crime must pay its price, and pay for it heavily.
(ii) It brings us both laughter and tears to see that you have not yet tired of repeating your fabricated lies that the Jews have a historical right to Palestine, as it was promised to them in the Torah. Anyone who disputes with them on this alleged fact is accused of anti-semitism. This is one of the most fallacious, widely-circulated fabrications in history. The people of Palestine are pure Arabs and original Semites. It is the Muslims who are the inheritors of Moses (peace be upon him) and the inheritors of the real Torah that has not been changed. Muslims believe in all of the Prophets, including Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all. If the followers of Moses have been promised a right to Palestine in the Torah, then the Muslims are the most worthy nation of this.
(Full text of letter at link)
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 19, 2023 11:34 PM|
Queers for the Taliban doesn’t seem that far-fetched at the close of 2023.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 19, 2023 11:41 PM|
OP it must be hard to live yet be so intellectually limited with no information literacy. R2 and R3 are bin Laden supporters. She is making fun of this asinine meme.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 20, 2023 1:01 AM|
R2 and R3 are NOT bin Laden supporters.... I meant to type
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 20, 2023 1:02 AM|
[quote]FULL TEXT: OSAMA BIN LADEN'S 'LETTER TO AMERICA'
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 20, 2023 1:27 AM|
Thanks R15. I do remember reading that now.
How can anyone read that and not worry about what Islam is really all about? Osama makes it real clear what they actually want: Islam to rule everywhere.
I hate religion so fucking much. All of them. I will NEVER understand why we correctly and justifiably attack Christianity but give Islam a pass. Never.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 20, 2023 2:20 AM|
Now they’re saying that bin Laden was right as it has to do with colonialism.
We really need mandatory conscription.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 20, 2023 3:28 AM|
And to think TikToc deleted my comment on a video with Margery Taylor Green within the hour after I posted. I posted “Idiot”. They said it was not within their community guidelines
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 20, 2023 3:37 AM|
[quote] Now they’re saying that bin Laden was right as it has to do with colonialism.
Ask the black Africans living in Sudan, Somalia, Djibouti what they think of Arab Muslim colonialism.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 20, 2023 3:41 AM|
National service would do wonders for this generation. Give them two years of consistent routine to figure their shit out. Put them on infrastructure projects throughout the country and hopefully provide them with some tangible skills.
And shut fucking TikTok down. Enough cultural pollution. These kids don't know enough to understand they're being played.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 20, 2023 3:44 AM|
Everyone should read that letter.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 20, 2023 4:35 AM|
I already knew America’s unwavering support of Israel, military presence in Saudi Arabia, and the bombings of many Muslim countries was motivation for the 9/11 attacks. Are people seriously just learning this?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 20, 2023 4:41 AM|
[quote]National service would do wonders for this generation. Give them two years of consistent routine to figure their shit out. Put them on infrastructure projects throughout the country and hopefully provide them with some tangible skills.
Send them to Afghanistan
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 20, 2023 4:46 AM|
(2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you
(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 20, 2023 4:46 AM|
(vii) You are a nation that practices the trade of sex in all its forms, directly and indirectly. Giant corporations and establishments are established on this, under the name of art, entertainment, tourism and freedom, and other deceptive names you attribute to it.
(viii) And because of all this, you have been described in history as a nation that spreads diseases that were unknown to man in the past. Go ahead and boast to the nations of man, that you brought them AIDS as a Satanic American Invention.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 20, 2023 4:48 AM|
These kids have lost their fucking minds...if they ever had one to begin with.
Being played by propaganda, on a propaganda tool, and they have no clue.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 20, 2023 4:58 AM|
Keep in mind, half of them weren't even born when 9/11 happened and the other half were too young to remember it.
Maybe they need to watch a few hostage beheading videos to see just how evil the followers of the "religion of peace" actually are.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 20, 2023 5:18 AM|
I love how people are more interested in attacking those who react to or have an opinion about this letter than addressing the substance of the letter itself.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 20, 2023 5:27 AM|
Great comment, r10.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 20, 2023 5:28 AM|
Don’t look at us!
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 20, 2023 6:57 AM|
Bill Maher said last week: “If you told Gen Z that the NSA in America was reading their DMs they’d be hysterical and outraged, but if you told them that the CCP was spying on them via TikTok they’d be like ‘oh well’.”
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 20, 2023 7:05 AM|
[quote] Well, the contents of this letter make clear the motivation for the attacks was in part because of America's unwavering (economic, military, diplomatic) support for Israel which basically according to them was created after stealing Arab lands and its dispossession of its native residents.
Complete nonsense. Bin Laden and his cronies wanted America out of the holy places and the reestablishment of the caliphate. Of course they invoked Israel/Palestine because that’s a cause that brings all Muslims together. But that was just tossed in. He was a rich guy with too much time on his hands who wanted to see lots of people murdered in pursuit of his crazy medieval ideas.
It’s not a crazy medieval idea to see the Palestinians as deserving to govern themselves and live free of occupation, dispossession, and collective punishment. Those are basic human rights.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 20, 2023 7:15 AM|
[quote] How can anyone read that and not worry about what Islam is really all about?
How can anyone read the writings of Meir Kahane and not worry about what Judaism is really all about?
How can anyone read the writings of David Duke and not worry about what Christianity is really all about?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 20, 2023 7:22 AM|
Is R15's translation of the letter authentic does anybody know? I haven't seen the letter and I can't find it on google.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 20, 2023 7:57 AM|
(OK I found the original Guardian page on way back).
I'm obviously the only one who's never seen it. He even talked about Clinton's blow job. He says the US created AIDS, There are a lot of ravings about religious garbage like how we must practice Sharia law and he also calls on our entire society to reject homosexuality - almost other things. Fuck him and fuck all of them who believe that horrible shit. What they did was terrible and has changed our world forever.
But it's very confronting reading because a lot of what he says is factually true. I'm shocked how detailed they are about why they did it. It's too long.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 20, 2023 8:11 AM|
The U.S. is going to end up with far Right winger in the next decade as President, and I’m not talking Trump. You have a generation that is pro-communism, anti-American, anti-Jew, anti-white, and can’t survive on their own, not due to economic hardships, but social retardation. They’re going to be completely out of control and a burden on society. We’re going to end up with someone who will have to bring the hammer down on them. Mark my words. Even the hippie boomers weren’t this insane. These kids are self-diagnosing themselves with all types of shit thanks to TikTok, even giving themselves Tourette’s. They’re drugged, lazy, and dumb as shit. These are the idiots who will one day be in power. God help us.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 20, 2023 8:11 AM|
Sorry - R39 was to provide authentication for R15's link.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 20, 2023 8:13 AM|
Everything is coming apart at the seams R40.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 20, 2023 8:14 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 20, 2023 8:17 AM|
I have no idea what that means R43.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 20, 2023 8:20 AM|
R40 here’s a theory: the psychotic Gen Zers are starved and dying for discipline and direction so they’re now subconsciously longing for extremist Islamic control to get them in-line. Older Americans generations have let the youth run amok, it’s not some innocent Eddie Haskell or Dennis the Menace shit. They’re dangerous, the Palestine allegiance and now this is insane.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 20, 2023 8:35 AM|
The letter is deranged word salad from a deeply disturbed mind (obviously).
I loathe TikTok and self righteous, sanctimonious Gen Z never ceases to sink lower and lower.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 20, 2023 9:19 AM|
How long before they find some real interesting stuff in “Mein Kampf”?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 20, 2023 9:30 AM|
Ship those ugly brats to Gaza!
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 20, 2023 12:02 PM|
Same, r39. He even calls out America’s failure to ratify the Kyoto Protocol, lol. The religious / morality bits are idiotic / insane (to say the least), but if we’re truly being as objective as possible, he clearly demonstrates an impressive understanding of then-current politics and US history.
“xi) You have destroyed nature with your industrial waste and gases more than any other nation in history. Despite this, you refuse to sign the Kyoto agreement so that you can secure the profit of your greedy companies and*industries.“
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 22, 2023 2:15 AM|
“(x) Your law is the law of the rich and wealthy people, who hold sway in their political parties, and fund their election campaigns with their gifts. Behind them stand the Jews, who control your policies, media and economy.”
I don’t think anyone can deny the first sentence…
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 22, 2023 2:18 AM|
The problem that will become of free speech is that people are insatiable, they’ll always move the goalposts when there are no limits, people have been testing the line for decades. Now we have a generation of Anarchists, they think they won’t be happy until they’re Kardashian level but even then they’d be unhappy. All these people screeching about abuses of power are just pissed that they can’t abuse power. They don’t want the abuse and the power structure to disappear they just want to be on the other side of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 22, 2023 2:25 AM|
^ ummm. What?
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 22, 2023 2:32 AM|
Osama's billionaire daddy had 22 wives and 52 children. Osama had at least 5 wives including his first cousin, and 20 something children.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 22, 2023 7:47 PM|
He does talk about Clinton's BJ (he has a lot in common with Republicans, tbh), and then he says this:
[quote]Is there a worse kind of event for which your name will go down in history and remembered by nations?
Really? THAT'S the worst thing we've done?
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 23, 2023 9:17 AM|