Cult run by millennial grifter couple. Main doctrine is that fraus chase down and pursue their “twin flames” (usually one-sided obsessive crushes) at all costs.
Restraining orders might be issued but you don’t give up!
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Cult run by millennial grifter couple. Main doctrine is that fraus chase down and pursue their “twin flames” (usually one-sided obsessive crushes) at all costs.
Restraining orders might be issued but you don’t give up!
by Anonymous | reply 46 | July 7, 2024 12:01 AM |
I thought the husband was a sister from the first second he opened his mouth.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | November 18, 2023 4:22 AM |
I got sucked into the first episode because I was stunned. I wouldn't let that guy bag my groceries, there's no way he could persuade me of anything. People can be gullible and naive but I think they preyed on a subset of people who were also emotionally damaged. I am not sure I will continue to watch the series. Knowing that the "church" is still operating I can't see how it will have a satisfying conclusion.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | November 19, 2023 2:14 PM |
A group for mentally ill losers where they're repeatedly told to "Don't ever give up!" on harassing some poor schmuck with who they're destined to be partnered?
They must be raking in the disability and social security checks.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 19, 2023 2:24 PM |
The podcast series about this goes into greater detail about Angie and the younger guy she stalked and also has Elle’s victim tell that story. The whole thing is even more crazy than this series lets on.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | November 19, 2023 2:30 PM |
R3 - this grifting cult preys on emotionally weak, desperate women, probably by pushing them on incels who think they deserve hotter women. It’s really quite sad that anyone falls for this, or that this cult is even still in operation. I checked their Facebook page this morning and you could still comment on posts, but a short while after they closed commenting to members only. I’m guessing a lot of people have been binging this special this weekend.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 19, 2023 2:47 PM |
There’s a second documentary on Amazon called Desperately Seeking Soulmate that’s worth watching too, as it features different people and a Vanity Fair journalist who actually visited Jeff and Shaleia at their Northern Michigan mini-mansion. I watched both docs back to back. Jeff is such an immature and unrepentant asshole, it’s amazing people fell for it. There was even a “Twin Flames Diet” which was based on carb and fat heavy foods that was designed to make the followers fat, one girl gained 70 lbs. He charged people to watch him make gigantic sandwiches. He’s a total sociopath who just gets off on fucking with people.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 19, 2023 2:48 PM |
R6, which doc is better?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | November 19, 2023 2:51 PM |
Most of the women had extreme vocal fry and upspeak! Seems to be a sign of weak-minded, “traumatized,” easily manipulated followers.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 19, 2023 3:08 PM |
All I needed to read was the description above to know that no, I won't be watching.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 19, 2023 3:10 PM |
I couldn’t really say one doc is better than the other. They’re both really well done and there’s not much overlap with the people who participated. Jeff’s childhood friend and Sheleia’s father are interviewed in the Amazon one, which gives more background about where they came from. I love a good cult documentary.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 19, 2023 3:20 PM |
That Jeff guy is laughing all the way to the bank. He and his shit ugly wife should be in jail.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 19, 2023 3:37 PM |
What to do? What to do? More female members than male members. What to do? I know. We will tell a lot of females they are actually males and then we can match them. Genius!
by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 19, 2023 3:48 PM |
[quote] I love a good cult documentary.
Me too. As my life lies in ruins around me, it is uplifting to know that there are people in the world with even worse judgment who make poorer choices.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 19, 2023 4:27 PM |
[quote] What to do? What to do? More female members than male members. What to do? I know. We will tell a lot of females they are actually males and then we can match them. Genius!
It is sad how this cult undermines and exploits transgender identity by forcing it onto its members.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 19, 2023 4:37 PM |
R12 What? He tried to convince women that they are trans or lesbians?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 19, 2023 4:42 PM |
I felt the worst for Marlee - that poor 19 year old who got sent to Utah to live with a schizophrenic.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 19, 2023 6:28 PM |
Who wants to spent even 1 minute with such pathetic losers all around.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 19, 2023 6:34 PM |
Exactly R15. And they believed this nut job.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 19, 2023 11:18 PM |
I watched it all. A perverted form of Drumpf, creating his own cult . He ripped off the members , bragged and showed his mansion and Porsches . Beyond disgusting . After brainwashing members to believe they were trans he pressured them into surgery.
His goal was for every member to marry a twin flame. Since they were overwhelmingly female, he created this “ trans” brainwashing so they could couple more quickly,
It’s quite astounding . Intelligent remarks from a member of the LGBTQ community — making the point it was ANTI everything the movement stands for as this putz was dictating sexual orientations of others
by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 19, 2023 11:58 PM |
R18 What do you mean they believed him? How can someone convince you that you are the opposite gender? Did they all started taking testosterone? Had any medical procedures done?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 20, 2023 12:55 PM |
Yes r20 - they had top surgery and started hormones.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 20, 2023 1:04 PM |
R21 So how come they didn't sue this guy and he isn't behind bars?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | November 20, 2023 1:05 PM |
It seems that the forced trans are still in the cult. The ones they have left all seem to be women that came to their senses. One of the women was told to be trans and got a haircut and changed her name, but then came to her senses and left.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 20, 2023 1:23 PM |
But even if they came to their senses, they have enough stuff to start a lawsuit against him, no?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | November 20, 2023 1:45 PM |
What’s so wild is these obsessive crushes the women have on their “twin flames” seem to nothing more than limerance. And then they have this idiot unattractive couple giving them truly insane advice (violate the restraining order! break up his marriage!) and validating their obsessions.
Whereas everyone else in their real lives (friends, family, therapists) would tell them “he doesn’t care about you, you don’t know him, this is crazy, stop.”
by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 20, 2023 4:27 PM |
Flames is right, as in, the husband's can be seen from outer space. The wife is just a run of the mill, fat, frau. I'm watching it now.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | November 22, 2023 2:48 AM |
R24 Sue him for what? He's a total fucking clown. How can you convince a jury that a dipshit like this made you be trans? Is there no personal responsibility left anymore? Sorry about your luck, chick. I don't know why you went along with it but I don't think you have a case unless he personally drugged you, and shot you up with hormones, and hacked your tits off.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 22, 2023 2:52 AM |
I watched the Netflix one and then the Prime one. I think the Prime one was slightly better. Man, Jeff and Shenaynay or whatever need their asses kicked.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 22, 2023 3:12 AM |
Fucking amateurs... I died a millionaire and took 919 with me.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 22, 2023 3:17 AM |
Their shit seems like EST and all those other cults. Everything is your fault and you're the problem.
I could never be talked into stalking someone, why are these adults doing this shit? I don't know why they should be able to sue these assholes when any rational person can tell that this is shit to be avoided at all costs.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 22, 2023 3:53 AM |
Also, that lesbian couple who each had, and left, their young children, are just selfish twats.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 22, 2023 3:55 AM |
My favorite idiot Twin Flame couple is Sage and Isaiah. Not a brain cell between them. Sage an MTF and Isaiah an FTM who went through top surgery. Sage had thicker beard stubble than Isaiah and couldn’t say more than the word “Yeah!!”
And Angela. I told my partner her obsession was clearly gay when she described his reaction to her kissing him. Yet she still didn’t give up.
Jeff said homosexuality doesn’t really exist because it’s just two men having sex. They can’t be twin flames because they’re both masculine, so it’s really no more than shaking hands. I fully expected his fat, ugly wife to say “and honey, you’ve definitely shaken a lot of hands.”
by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 23, 2023 9:01 PM |
R19, I just watched it. The trans-identified female said nothing about the "LGBTQ community" or sexual orientations. "He" just spoke about the "trans community" and "gender identity" and said Twin Flames was "anti-trans" because people are supposed to work out their so-called "gender identity" themselves and not have others push it on them. Because the trans movement has never imposed a trans identity onto little kids or made butch lesbians believe that they're really men, right?
What that trans representative omitted to say, however, is that "he" and the entire trans movement have worked hard to remove any safeguards or regulations against people getting "sexual reassignment" surgery or being put on synthetic hormones. If "he" was really appalled by what had happened to those women in the Twin Flames cult then "he" would be arguing that no one should get top surgery or any other kind of "gender" surgery or synthetic hormones without a full psychological assessment and therapy plus the requirement to live as one's "chosen gender" for a certain period first. Ditto with legal "gender" changes and forcing others to use "preferred pronouns".
If the safeguards that trans activists have worked aggressively to have removed had still been in place then these women would not have been able to proceed with top surgery or changing "their pronouns" to he/him.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | December 17, 2023 8:23 PM |
I prefer Twin Peaks
by Anonymous | reply 34 | December 17, 2023 8:49 PM |
Preach R33!
by Anonymous | reply 35 | December 17, 2023 10:26 PM |
I find it very hard to sympathise with people who fall victim to these cults. You have to be a special kind of stupid, really.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | December 19, 2023 1:42 AM |
I agree R36. I mean where do we draw the line? Do we need to make people walk around with helmets and minders so they don't eat razor blades or bash their heads on walls? When do you take responsibility for your own fucking life and stop blaming others for your shit decisions?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 19, 2023 1:57 AM |
The cult leader is family. Purses falling outta his mouth whether he talks. No way he’s banging that ugly hoe.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | December 19, 2023 1:59 AM |
I can't believe he told two lesbians that lack of penis means their sex isn't real.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 20, 2024 7:50 AM |
Fascinating and sad to watch. The guy is a complete narcissist on a stratospheric power trip, praying on psychologically vulnerable young women who feel they need a partner in order to be validated and worthy.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 24, 2024 10:53 AM |
Bump
by Anonymous | reply 41 | April 11, 2024 12:19 PM |
one ep left... fucking cray what some people believe and get sucked into
by Anonymous | reply 42 | July 6, 2024 2:00 AM |
"It was all women"
So shocking.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | July 6, 2024 2:02 AM |
No difference between these cult followers and Trump worshippers
by Anonymous | reply 44 | July 6, 2024 8:17 AM |
Is the wife crazy or just stuck with the crazy husband?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | July 6, 2024 11:59 PM |
44 posts before it's a Trump thread. You slipping angel girl.
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