Anyone else watching Twin Flames docuseries?

I thought the husband was a sister from the first second he opened his mouth.

I got sucked into the first episode because I was stunned. I wouldn't let that guy bag my groceries, there's no way he could persuade me of anything. People can be gullible and naive but I think they preyed on a subset of people who were also emotionally damaged. I am not sure I will continue to watch the series. Knowing that the "church" is still operating I can't see how it will have a satisfying conclusion.

A group for mentally ill losers where they're repeatedly told to "Don't ever give up!" on harassing some poor schmuck with who they're destined to be partnered?

They must be raking in the disability and social security checks.

The podcast series about this goes into greater detail about Angie and the younger guy she stalked and also has Elle’s victim tell that story. The whole thing is even more crazy than this series lets on.

R3 - this grifting cult preys on emotionally weak, desperate women, probably by pushing them on incels who think they deserve hotter women. It’s really quite sad that anyone falls for this, or that this cult is even still in operation. I checked their Facebook page this morning and you could still comment on posts, but a short while after they closed commenting to members only. I’m guessing a lot of people have been binging this special this weekend.

There’s a second documentary on Amazon called Desperately Seeking Soulmate that’s worth watching too, as it features different people and a Vanity Fair journalist who actually visited Jeff and Shaleia at their Northern Michigan mini-mansion. I watched both docs back to back. Jeff is such an immature and unrepentant asshole, it’s amazing people fell for it. There was even a “Twin Flames Diet” which was based on carb and fat heavy foods that was designed to make the followers fat, one girl gained 70 lbs. He charged people to watch him make gigantic sandwiches. He’s a total sociopath who just gets off on fucking with people.

R6, which doc is better?

Most of the women had extreme vocal fry and upspeak! Seems to be a sign of weak-minded, “traumatized,” easily manipulated followers.

All I needed to read was the description above to know that no, I won't be watching.

I couldn’t really say one doc is better than the other. They’re both really well done and there’s not much overlap with the people who participated. Jeff’s childhood friend and Sheleia’s father are interviewed in the Amazon one, which gives more background about where they came from. I love a good cult documentary.

That Jeff guy is laughing all the way to the bank. He and his shit ugly wife should be in jail.

What to do? What to do? More female members than male members. What to do? I know. We will tell a lot of females they are actually males and then we can match them. Genius!

[quote] I love a good cult documentary.

Me too. As my life lies in ruins around me, it is uplifting to know that there are people in the world with even worse judgment who make poorer choices.

[quote] What to do? What to do? More female members than male members. What to do? I know. We will tell a lot of females they are actually males and then we can match them. Genius!

It is sad how this cult undermines and exploits transgender identity by forcing it onto its members.

R12 What? He tried to convince women that they are trans or lesbians?

I felt the worst for Marlee - that poor 19 year old who got sent to Utah to live with a schizophrenic.

Who wants to spent even 1 minute with such pathetic losers all around.

Exactly R15. And they believed this nut job.

I watched it all. A perverted form of Drumpf, creating his own cult . He ripped off the members , bragged and showed his mansion and Porsches . Beyond disgusting . After brainwashing members to believe they were trans he pressured them into surgery.

His goal was for every member to marry a twin flame. Since they were overwhelmingly female, he created this “ trans” brainwashing so they could couple more quickly,

It’s quite astounding . Intelligent remarks from a member of the LGBTQ community — making the point it was ANTI everything the movement stands for as this putz was dictating sexual orientations of others

R18 What do you mean they believed him? How can someone convince you that you are the opposite gender? Did they all started taking testosterone? Had any medical procedures done?

Yes r20 - they had top surgery and started hormones.

R21 So how come they didn't sue this guy and he isn't behind bars?

It seems that the forced trans are still in the cult. The ones they have left all seem to be women that came to their senses. One of the women was told to be trans and got a haircut and changed her name, but then came to her senses and left.

But even if they came to their senses, they have enough stuff to start a lawsuit against him, no?

What’s so wild is these obsessive crushes the women have on their “twin flames” seem to nothing more than limerance. And then they have this idiot unattractive couple giving them truly insane advice (violate the restraining order! break up his marriage!) and validating their obsessions.

Whereas everyone else in their real lives (friends, family, therapists) would tell them “he doesn’t care about you, you don’t know him, this is crazy, stop.”

Flames is right, as in, the husband's can be seen from outer space. The wife is just a run of the mill, fat, frau. I'm watching it now.

R24 Sue him for what? He's a total fucking clown. How can you convince a jury that a dipshit like this made you be trans? Is there no personal responsibility left anymore? Sorry about your luck, chick. I don't know why you went along with it but I don't think you have a case unless he personally drugged you, and shot you up with hormones, and hacked your tits off.

I watched the Netflix one and then the Prime one. I think the Prime one was slightly better. Man, Jeff and Shenaynay or whatever need their asses kicked.

Fucking amateurs... I died a millionaire and took 919 with me.

Their shit seems like EST and all those other cults. Everything is your fault and you're the problem.

I could never be talked into stalking someone, why are these adults doing this shit? I don't know why they should be able to sue these assholes when any rational person can tell that this is shit to be avoided at all costs.

Also, that lesbian couple who each had, and left, their young children, are just selfish twats.

My favorite idiot Twin Flame couple is Sage and Isaiah. Not a brain cell between them. Sage an MTF and Isaiah an FTM who went through top surgery. Sage had thicker beard stubble than Isaiah and couldn’t say more than the word “Yeah!!”

And Angela. I told my partner her obsession was clearly gay when she described his reaction to her kissing him. Yet she still didn’t give up.

Jeff said homosexuality doesn’t really exist because it’s just two men having sex. They can’t be twin flames because they’re both masculine, so it’s really no more than shaking hands. I fully expected his fat, ugly wife to say “and honey, you’ve definitely shaken a lot of hands.”

R19, I just watched it. The trans-identified female said nothing about the "LGBTQ community" or sexual orientations. "He" just spoke about the "trans community" and "gender identity" and said Twin Flames was "anti-trans" because people are supposed to work out their so-called "gender identity" themselves and not have others push it on them. Because the trans movement has never imposed a trans identity onto little kids or made butch lesbians believe that they're really men, right?

What that trans representative omitted to say, however, is that "he" and the entire trans movement have worked hard to remove any safeguards or regulations against people getting "sexual reassignment" surgery or being put on synthetic hormones. If "he" was really appalled by what had happened to those women in the Twin Flames cult then "he" would be arguing that no one should get top surgery or any other kind of "gender" surgery or synthetic hormones without a full psychological assessment and therapy plus the requirement to live as one's "chosen gender" for a certain period first. Ditto with legal "gender" changes and forcing others to use "preferred pronouns".

If the safeguards that trans activists have worked aggressively to have removed had still been in place then these women would not have been able to proceed with top surgery or changing "their pronouns" to he/him.

I prefer Twin Peaks

Preach R33!

I find it very hard to sympathise with people who fall victim to these cults. You have to be a special kind of stupid, really.

I agree R36. I mean where do we draw the line? Do we need to make people walk around with helmets and minders so they don't eat razor blades or bash their heads on walls? When do you take responsibility for your own fucking life and stop blaming others for your shit decisions?

The cult leader is family. Purses falling outta his mouth whether he talks. No way he’s banging that ugly hoe.

I can't believe he told two lesbians that lack of penis means their sex isn't real.

Fascinating and sad to watch. The guy is a complete narcissist on a stratospheric power trip, praying on psychologically vulnerable young women who feel they need a partner in order to be validated and worthy.

Bump

one ep left... fucking cray what some people believe and get sucked into

"It was all women"

So shocking.

No difference between these cult followers and Trump worshippers

Is the wife crazy or just stuck with the crazy husband?

44 posts before it's a Trump thread. You slipping angel girl.