Nikki Haley Opens with 10 Point Lead on Biden for President
Are these people serious? I’m expecting Trump to have a meltdown any minute now.
[quote]NEW POLL: President Biden trails GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley by 10 points in 2024 matchup.
[quote]The poll found Haley with 55 percent to Biden’s 45 percent, a notably more significant margin than that of former President Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 21, 2023 1:53 PM
Nimarata Randhawa - Vivek Ramaswamy 2024!
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 18, 2023 1:32 AM
This CUNT will never be President of the United States.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 18, 2023 1:36 AM
Yeah, this is one of those bullshit polls. Not that I think they are actually lying about numbers or anything. But a lot of the respondents are doing the dumb bitch thing: I have no idea what Nikki Haley is really like or what she stands for so I'll create this fantasy in my mind and decide she's what I want in a president. I don't take polls seriously before there is an actual campaign between two actual people with actual positions and personas.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 18, 2023 1:36 AM
“This is not a nursing home! I care…. A LOT!”
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 18, 2023 1:39 AM
Is she the Plan B if Trump's out, due to trials etc?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 18, 2023 3:04 AM
She is all over the place. She just told Sean Hannity that if she were governor she would signed a 6 week abortion ban. Then she said that she would pull us out of the UN and out of the Paris Climate Treaty. This in in contract to her more centrist act. I can’t believe she actually thinks this will help her win an election. Maybe win the primaries, I don’t know but she’s giving Democrats a lot of sound bites and footage to run of her next year.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 18, 2023 3:16 AM
Keep my poll out of your voice!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 18, 2023 3:17 AM
Get a fucking grip. These polls are so ultra meaningless.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 18, 2023 3:26 AM
Most people have little idea who she is.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 18, 2023 4:09 AM
This proves that all of these polls are just garbage created to generate headlines. Why would Nikki Haley poll 10 points ahead of Biden? Where? National polling is a joke anyway since we have an Electoral College.
This bullshit must be so frustrating for the Biden campaign.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 18, 2023 5:17 AM
The Hill is a right wing operation so they print this garbage all the time. It certainly would be news if during the upcoming GOP Primary Elections Nikki Haley got more than 12%-15% in any one state. I wonder when The Hill will print that, lol.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 18, 2023 5:35 AM
Keep thinking that, liberals. You thought the same thing about Hillary, making her totally overconfident.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 18, 2023 9:09 PM
Absolutely no one should be discounted against Biden, especially since the "liberal media" is doing absolutely nothing to help him and bring to the public the accomplishments of his administration; they are all-Trump all the time. Nowhere from the Biden people is there anything about why people should vote FOR him, just why Trump is bad. Unless the Dems put forth a case for him, Trump has a great chance of winning.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 18, 2023 9:34 PM
I'm guessing it's a lot of Republicans who are embarrassed of Trump and know Nikki being the first woman President would piss of liberals and kill Hilary Clinton.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 18, 2023 9:42 PM
Polls also show that the ability to win is a low priority for Republican voters. They want Trump front and center, even if it means losing the race.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 18, 2023 9:48 PM
I will never understand why this country is so determined to serve Donald Trump when he's done absolutely NOTHING for the country. I just don't get this reversal. There are people willing to put him back in the WH just so he can have "his" DOJ put a stop to the federal cases against and do lord knows what to the state prosecutors. So he can pardon and release all of these J6 thugs who have been found guilty and sentenced. I do not get it.
People must really hate this country. It used to be a Presidential candidate actually made campaign promises related to improving people's lives but all we've heard from Trump is vengeance and how he's going to ruin this country for decades to come and ruin our standing in the world by ceding to Putin. I don't understand the support for him other than he's a cult leader.
And Americans are really fucking themselves over. It took Germany really 5 decades, at least, to truly change the perception of themselves in the world. This authoritarian thing is a proven short term, DEAD END. And yet these fucking stupid Trump supporters are willing to plunge us into decades of stasis and decay where nothing will progress forward positively in any manner. Unbelievable.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 19, 2023 1:24 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that the people constantly making a point of calling her Nimrata Randhawa are racist fucks trying to say that she isn't a real American? Nikki is a credible nickname (like Bill instead of William Clinton) while Haley is her married surname.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 19, 2023 1:36 PM
Have they polled Kim Kardashian versus Biden?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 19, 2023 1:39 PM
Bitches, the important lesson that should be gleaned from this poll is that people look favorably on voting for someone YOUNGER and NEW. Fucking ridiculous these old politicians can’t exit gracefully, both Trump and Biden. If Nikki Haley gets the nomination and runs against Biden, she wins. This superficial culture is fucking terrified of aging, youth will always have an advantage over seniority.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 19, 2023 1:47 PM
The same bitches on here posting MIGHTY JOE BIDEN everyday are probably also in another thread making fun of Madonna for not acting her age.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 19, 2023 1:50 PM
R17 They're the liberal mirror universe version of the "Barak HUSSEIN Obama" people.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 19, 2023 1:54 PM
You see The Hill as a Right learning blog and thus discount a poll done by someone else.
But when organizations do a poll about The Hill almost all results shows it as a left leaning blog although your opinions might outweigh actual polls.
So a woman who can’t possibly get the GOP nod , unless don drops out, is way ahead of Biden but the guy who is going to get the gop nod, Donald trump, is only slightly ahead of Biden. That is called good dem news today.
Trump-Haley (which I do not think she would accept) would crush Biden-Harris it seems if the election were held today.
This law school had been doing surveys for years. They generally get a very good score for accuracy from 538.
If it’s Trump-Haley vs Biden-Harris it may be that the only thing that could stop trump is Romney+ someone running as a 3rdParty ticket.
Will progressives go from head in sand one November to jumping out of tall windows the next November?
Stay tuned to find out.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 19, 2023 1:59 PM
A lot of the polls today are purposely skewed to lean a certain way rather than be a true objective indicator.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 19, 2023 2:00 PM
I predicted years ago that Nikki Haley would be the first woman President of the US. She may not make it in 2024 but she's a lock in 2028. I
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 19, 2023 2:03 PM
I honestly think that even if something happens to Trump meaning that he's out of the race, more of his horrible voters would move to DeSantis than to Haley, so I don't see Haley having much chance. Even now, with Trump in the race, DeSantis is polling better than Haley.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 19, 2023 2:04 PM
I can tell a professional when I see one post. You are someone who no doubt is a survey professional and you have lots of professional training in surveys. I am betting graduate training
Excellent insight noting is real it’s all skewed to lean a certain way.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 19, 2023 2:07 PM
[quote]Keep thinking that, liberals. You thought the same thing about Hillary, making her totally overconfident.
Fair point, but we've had many local and national elections in the past seven years on which to base our opinion of polls like this one. And your observation, in fact, would mean that Nikki is the one in danger of overconfidence.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 19, 2023 2:08 PM
First the election is a year away, second she's anti-abortion and she has already announced she is going after Social Security and Medicare.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 19, 2023 2:11 PM
She really isn't even going to get the nomination. Why do you stress yourselves so much about her? The only way she gets it is if both Trump and DeSantis drop dead or drop out which is highly unlikely.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 19, 2023 2:13 PM
She can complete a sentence and that is basically all it will take to beat Biden. Im furious, what are fucking democrats thinking. Save Gavin for 2024? There isn’t going to be a 2024 if we don’t win.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 19, 2023 2:30 PM
She's saying what she had to in order to get primary votes. If she ran for President, she'd rush into the center. She was the SC Governor who toke the Confederate logo off their flag. She's a POC whose son in law is black and will soon have black grandkids. She's attractive and smart. I'm not predicting for 2024 but she'll be a force for years.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 19, 2023 2:55 PM
[quote]She can complete a sentence and that is basically all it will take to beat Biden.
Dude, women and not going to give up abortion and people are not going to give up their Social Security. It's a year away and Dems haven't even begun to fight. Unclench for a while
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 19, 2023 5:13 PM
I'm a leftist - not a liberal, but an actual leftist - and I will actually sit this election out which I have never done before, if it ends up being Nikki Haley vs Biden. I cannot stand it when people do not know when to exit with dignity. Women no longer have the constitutional right to their own bodies because Ruth Bader Ginsberg fucked everyone over. Never again. Biden promised he would run for one term in 2020 and he needs to do what is right for the country.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 19, 2023 5:28 PM
That’s brilliant, r36! Ruth Bader Ginsburg expected to be replaced by the first female president. “Actual leftists” who pioneered your strategy in 2016 made sure RBG was not only replaced by a self-described handmaiden, but that she was accompanied by two more conservative justices who helped overturn Roe and affirmative action and voting rights. You are so so noble.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 19, 2023 5:33 PM
[quote] Biden promised he would run for one term in 2020
A lot of people speculated he might make such a promise, but he never actually did. I’m not surprised he’s running again. I’m just surprised he’s doing such a shitty job campaigning. Hopefully his team is just waiting til it gets closer to the actual election to kick things into high gear.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 19, 2023 5:35 PM
The Hill is a right wing rag. Don't give them the clicks. Nimrata ain't beating Biden by 10 points. They should AT LEAST try and make it sound reasonable, like a 1 point win.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 19, 2023 5:36 PM
[quote] Ruth Bader Ginsburg expected to be replaced by the first female president.
Then she was a fucking stupid bitch because she would have had to go back to George Bush I to find a time when the incumbent party controls the White House for three consecutive terms. And before that, it was FDR/Truman. It was more likely than not 2016 was going to have a Republican victor.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 19, 2023 5:42 PM
[quote] can tell a professional when I see one post. You are someone who no doubt is a survey professional and you have lots of professional training in surveys. I am betting graduate training Excellent insight noting is real it’s all skewed to lean a certain way.
Elon Musk has joined the chat
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 19, 2023 5:44 PM
[quote] I'm a leftist - not a liberal, but an actual leftist
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 19, 2023 5:48 PM
Here he is folks the self proclaimed leftist who Donald Trump is counting on in order to pull another MAGA victory out.
Trump says “thank you thank you thank you I could not do it without you”
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 19, 2023 5:50 PM
The leftist standing on principle - voting for Jill Stein - are the people who got us into this mess. And no matter what happens, it’s always the Democrats who are tasked with sorting it out.
I hope you choke on your “actual leftist” principles, R36. You fuckin’ snob.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 19, 2023 6:17 PM
These self proclaimed leftist who let trump in the back door against Clinton and will do it again with Biden are worse than MAGA.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 19, 2023 6:20 PM
Don’t be mad at me. I voted for Hillary and even canvassed in a big swing state. Most people on the left held their nose and voted for her out of hatred of Trump. Hillary lost on her own terms. No one forced her to call them “deplorables.”
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 19, 2023 6:28 PM
And Hillary lost because she took the Rust Belt for granted, even almost losing the most Democratic state in the country presidential election-wise, Minnesota (Humphrey’s only carry). The Jill Stein voters in Portland and Austin didn’t tip the election.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 19, 2023 6:31 PM
Is the Jill Stein campaign shilling on here? 77,000 votes in 3 swing states lost her the electoral college. These presidential elections can lose the swing states by a point or two, so a vote for a spoiler like Jill Stein, RFK Jr, Manchin, Cornel West, and any other fool is like giving a vote to Trump.
That fucking bitch Stein should just move to St. Petersburg already. She's funded by Vlad.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 19, 2023 7:06 PM
If Romney does come in , if he assumes Biden can’t hold serve and would lose to Trump, Romney a d May e Manchin, as a 3Rd Party ticket that is one that just might win.
That is a ticket that could excite those tired of alleged right or left extremes and comfortable in the center. If Biden continues to fall and there is no evidence the Dems are going to do something about it, I think Romney could be a real thing.
It would be be of the most exciting and crazy elections of modern history. And if Romney picked a VP better received than Manchin…..
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 19, 2023 7:14 PM
Jesus Christ the Democratic Party IS the centrist party. For fucks sake, fucking "centrists" are just what the 80s and 90s called country club Republicans, educated probusiness elitists who didn't really share many of the values of the koolaid drinkers in the Christian Coalition because they lived in the Northeast.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 19, 2023 7:28 PM
[quote] First the election is a year away, second she's anti-abortion
She’s personally against abortion. She tries playing both sides but it’s pretty clear that she doesn’t care about the issue.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 19, 2023 8:07 PM
R50 is our resident commie.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 19, 2023 8:08 PM
[quote] No one forced her to call them “deplorables.”
You don’t think David Duke is a deloprable? Why is it that Trump gets to be politically incorrect? Trump even trashed veterans when he ran. Go fuck yourself.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 19, 2023 8:09 PM
Trump wouldn’t even denounce David Duke’s support.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 19, 2023 8:09 PM
Trump just used Hitler talk to call his opponents "vermin". And the crowd cheered. They are FUCKING DEPLORABLE TRASH. Hillary was correct, as usual.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 19, 2023 8:11 PM
It’s too soon to start doing the Indian “pat the dog, screw in the lightbulb” happy dance.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 19, 2023 8:25 PM
Tonight’s middle weight championship bout features two longtime favs
In the Pink trunks we have the Vermin and they are facing off against the FUCKING DEPLORABLE TRASH in their normal Black trunks.
They will go full on total unlimited name calling until one side gives in. It could be long and loud.
Both sides think they are right and both sides think the other should die but tonight it’s all about name calling. Get ready to rumble
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 19, 2023 8:55 PM
Haley is dangerous because rethugs will line up behind her, as they always do, and a certain very vocal segment of Dems will vote for her because she's a woman and not a white male of the patriarchy establishment elite.
Vivek Ramaswamy is also a danger for the same reason.
Do not underestimate either of these people.
We all need to work actively to ensure a second Biden term if he runs or whoever his Dem successor is if he doesn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 19, 2023 9:12 PM
[QUOTE]Vivek Ramaswamy is also a danger for the same reason.
Ramaswamy is a manic/coked up loon. If he hypothetically had the nomination, I think people would see that and be turned off.
What about DeSantis? The guy is just as bad as Trump, but would he be electable in a general election?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 19, 2023 9:55 PM
She's sane and Dump isn't. That's a big difference.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 19, 2023 10:26 PM
The American electorate is a scary combination of uneducated, ignorant, and gullible. Just the way the GOP wants it.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 19, 2023 10:41 PM
I would vote for Nikki if it would break the fascist fever and we could go back to center-right/center-left consensus. But I think that it’s more like a political rabies infection and the victim needs to die.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 20, 2023 1:57 AM
As a Democrat, I suspect she would beat Biden handily if she were the Republican nominee. Luckily, she's never going to be the Republican nominee.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 20, 2023 2:58 AM
[quote]I would vote for Nikki if it would break the fascist fever and we could go back to center-right/center-left consensus.
It would validate that the facist fever is the "will of the people" and embolden them into more egregious antics.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 20, 2023 3:08 AM
I am really worried....god help us if Trump gets in or a far right candidate.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 20, 2023 3:44 AM
Will the White House smell like curry?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 20, 2023 5:11 AM
R67 is yet another cringeworthy racist piece of shit. Oh, and curry is delicious.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 20, 2023 5:14 AM
^ Calm down and change your tampon. She's Indian, I was making a joke.
Also, as stated many, many times before, the racist and misogynistic Republicans will not elect and Indian woman named Nimrata to be the President.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||November 20, 2023 6:11 AM
Also, as stated many times Trump will never defeat H Clinton, you know how many fucking times that was stated? And how well that worked.
Stating things often is not a plan, if trump drops out they will indeed nominate her, not desantis, and she will win,
Not stating that will not change the future,
The left the greens the lazy ignorant youth are going to fail you and the Dems.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||November 20, 2023 10:06 AM
No, Biden is going to fail the Democrats if he doesn’t drop out.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||November 20, 2023 11:51 AM
LOL and you think Joe dropping out will save the country from the left , the greens, the lazy American youth that will stay home and not vote?
If it’s not Joe it will be someone else that has Dems , lefties, the liberals, the POC, gays, upset and angry that they are on the ticket and not their guy or gal.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||November 20, 2023 12:28 PM
Interesting article opinion piece in the NYT .
If Haley drops out most of her support goes to desantis. If desantis drops out most of his support goes to Trump.
But if Haley-Desantis could come together and they have some favorable wind at their back it’s not totally impossible they might sneak by Donald.
IMO they beat Biden-Harris unless a massive turn out of people will likely not turn out.
They will have softened their message on abortion.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||November 21, 2023 11:41 AM
[quote]LOL and you think Joe dropping out will save the country from the left , the greens, the lazy American youth that will stay home and not vote?
No, I think Joe will save the country from the INDIFFERENT AMERICAN CONSUMER.
Politics is show business and Joe Biden 2024 is a SEQUEL NOBODY WANTS. This IP is exhausted and the fan base is dwindling. Time to recast Bond.
Stupid daddy fetish queens preaching an old man saving us like it’s some kind of gospel because their fathers didn’t hug them enough before they died.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 21, 2023 12:16 PM
[quote]But if Haley-Desantis could come together and they have some favorable wind at their back it’s not totally impossible they might sneak by Donald.
It's also "not totally impossible" that a government scientist discovers an anti-aging mechanism and Joe Biden becomes younger and more physically agile before our eyes. But I wouldn't count on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||November 21, 2023 12:17 PM
Joe won’t get any younger but it’s not a stretch to see desantis hook up with Haley in an attempt to knock off trump. At that point they would get virtually every non MAGA total trump supporter to flock to them
That’s a ticket that could win maybe would win in the general election. it’s exactly what so many in the gop say they want. And that ticket should satisfy all those calling for the old people to die off.
My bet is that is a lot more likely than Joe turning 78 next year. About even money with Joe being in the race next October.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||November 21, 2023 12:58 PM
It could win them the general election, R76, but neither of them are going to triumph over Trump in the GOP primary. The remaining candidates together are pulling half of Trump's numbers.
That said, I've had a gut feeling for a long while that Trump is not going to be the eventual GOP nominee for one reason or another.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 21, 2023 1:53 PM