Archie - the movie about Cary Grant

No I didn’t guess, thought it might be Dominic West, and IMDb is being cagey too. The actor who says his (new) name looks like a young Matthew Goode.

Anyway, looks interesting. I’ll watch.

Harry Hamlin?

If Dyan Cannon and her daughter are behind this there'll be nothing about the Gay rumors. Both women have vehemently denied them

It's Jason Isaacs.

Who really knew him?

^ I did...

Our current Cary, George Clooney.

A buncha Charlie Nobody's

Who are playing Jughead and Reggie?

OP

Are you stupid?

1) It's a series, not a movie.

Are you blind?

2) The trailer shows homoerotic scenes.

Calam Lynch

Alison Janney

So who's seen it? What do you think?

Once upon a time, I thought Matt LeBlanc could have played Cary Grant.

Jet Boy for background music in the first episode? That's quite the hint!

Where can I watch this

I downloaded it from my usual site. I don't know where else it might be. Sorry!

Is Orry-Kelly mentioned?

[quote] Once upon a time, I thought Matt LeBlanc could have played Cary Grant.

Really, I see no resemblance.

Just finished it -- I thought it was quite good, but then again, I don't know that much about Cary Grant OR Dyan Cannon. Looking forward to reading what you all have to say.

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I'll ask again...Does Orry-Kelly get mentioned?

I'm watching it now. Still in his childhood...

The first episode has a jumping timeline but I have noticed some inaccuracies like when North by Northwest was made.

The teen Archie looks like Nicole Kidman and he even wears her old fuzzy hair when he is a stilt walker.

Someone should have told the director - enough with the home movies!

Dyan hears from another budding actor that Cary is gay. She asks him and he doesn't answer her directly. He just says I have loved a lot of people.

Got through episode 2 where he is in Hollywood. No mention of Orry Kelly and the only reference to Randolph Scott is that they shared a house because it saved them money on rent.

The series improves with the last episode 4 of 4 where we see the troubled marriage between Cary and Dyan. There is one more gay reference where he comments in his 1986 one-man show that he has been accused of being gay but he doesn't see that as an insult. Of course he also doesn't say he is or was.

The series has cameos from actors as Grace Kelly, Doris Day, Alfred Hitchcock and Alma Reville, Mae West, Danny Kaye, and Audrey Hepburn.

It also shows Dyan singing on The Danny Kaye Show on TV. I didn't know she was a singer.

[quote]A buncha Charlie Nobody's

I noticed it's an all-British production (creator, director, writer, actors, etc.).

Entirely produced by ITV Studios and BritBox.

I guess Americans weren't interested, because they're usually co-financing British projects like this, especially about old Hollywood.

they weren't interested because I have file an application to trademark the name.

[quote]I didn't know she was a singer.

She was Rosemary in the How to Succeed tour, r29.

Have only two episodes been released on BritBox?

Yes, r33. But in the UK, the whole thing has aired

[quote]The series has cameos from actors as Grace Kelly, Doris Day, Alfred Hitchcock and Alma Reville, Mae West, Danny Kaye, and Audrey Hepburn.

What am I -- chopped liver?

I just finished bingeing all four episodes. Several anachronisms jumped out at me:

-- no one in the general public would've used the word "gay" to describe a homosexual in 1962.

-- the substitution of "husband and wife" for "man and wife" in the marriage ceremony didn't become common until several decades after the Grant/Cannon nuptials.

but Cary Grant said gay in Bringing up Baby which was 1938.

Good point, r37. Always thought that was underground theater slang someone slipped into the script. But the meaning is clear in the film

In 1938, "gay" meant "happy," "carefree" (as in "The Gay Divorcee" from 1934). It didn't come into wide use as meaning homosexual until the 1960s. Audiences watching "Bringing Up Baby" would not have heard the term "gay" the way we hear it.

I've seen the clip from the supposed film "Charade".

From the bit I saw, the woman they cast as the beautiful Audrey Hepburn, was downright homely.

WTF?

Audrey was lovely in Charade.

Maybe they thought it was more important for the actress to be able to do the Audrey voice which she did well. But I agree she looked more horsey than the real Audrey. But of the guest appearances the only impersonation that came close was the actor doing Danny Kaye. The Hitchcock was all wrong for the period.

Hitchcock was played by Ian McNeise, who played Bert Large for many years on "Doc Martin."

Gay rumors? How about it’s a fact that he was bisexual based on primary sources. There are few instances where a movie star created such a perfect image of someone who was not necessarily who the person really was. I’m sure some of it fell into place based on his performance in film. But he retained that image expertly in his public life. I’m going to watch the docu and hope it does justice to a remarkable story of a man’s extraordinary life and the hypocrisies and ironies of his time.

What the fuck kind of name is Cary for a man? Was Dana their second choice?

In BRINGING UP BABY Cary's character responds to the question of why he's wearing a woman's frilly negligee with: "Because I've just gone gay, all of a sudden!"

I don't really see how "gay" could be interpreted as "happy" or "carefree" in this instance with the verb "gone" preceding it, even if the implication might have gone over a few heads in 1938.

Names like Cary and Gary and Tracy and Stacey were originally surnames that became popular among aristocrats as first names for their offspring in the early 1900s.

[quote]What the fuck kind of name is Cary for a man? Was Dana their second choice?

The show tells us that the name came from a character in a play he appeared in (while still billed as Archie Leach) on Broadway (opposite Fay Wray.) When he went to Hollywood and signed a contract, they required him to change his name. "Cary" came from the character. "Grant" came from the phone book (allegedly.)

[quote]What the fuck kind of name is Cary for a man?

Would you have preferred Dash Riprock?

he comments that everything about his relationships with women went bad once he married them.

I watched the first two episodes last night. Meh. Disappointing. It must have had a very low budget, as there is almost no effort to recreate the periods involved with any accuracy. The anachronisms are so constant, sloppy and egregious it becomes hilarious. My favorite: A Touch-Tone phone in 1961, which just barely edges out the Dyan Cannon’s miniskirts (also 1961-62) as most ridiculous. I’m not even counting the usual “diversity” casting, putting black characters in places they wouldn’t have been in the relevant period.

None of the actors who play him are anywhere near as handsome as Cary Grant was (to be fair, no actor today is), although the man who plays Grant in the ‘30s is quite attractive. Then, when the show moves into the 1940s, Isaacs starts to the play the role, and he looks decades older than Grant did at the time. He’s not attractive at all in this role, which is in contrast with the still-astonishing good looks Grant had well into middle age. What were they thinking with this casting? Jason Isaacs is 60. Grant was only 41 in 1945, when the "Barbara Hutton is divorcing me" scene would have happened.

“Archie” does a decent job conveying Grant’s sadness and the degree to which his made-up persona came to be all that was left of him later in life. Isaacs is a good actor and gives a good performance, but the fact that he doesn’t look like Grant is distracting. (He does get the accent right.) The writers glide past the Randolph Scott business with a few quips, but they do the same with Grant’s first three marriages. It’s not a biopic and isn’t meant to be. Unfortunately, it's also not very entertaining and is so low-budget it feels like a network TV movie ca. 1990. A high-budget, well-made, accurate biography of Cary Grant would make a great mini-series, but this isn’t it.

Hard pass. The actor playing the gorgeous Cary Grant is ugly.

why why why?

I ain’t paying for Britbox but Jason Isaacs with his blue eyes turned brown looks more like Laurence Olivier in the advertising material.

That time he won an Oscar and Sinatra told him no topical jokes.