There's a new trailer for Mary & George, the upcoming miniseries about King James and his boytoy
|by Anonymous||reply 96||December 6, 2023 4:31 PM|
Wow! I love Julianne Moore, seriously -- and this looks like one of her better projects.
I will eagerly await.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 17, 2023 1:48 AM|
It'll either be really good or really bad - and not in a campy fun way.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 17, 2023 2:28 AM|
Looks cheap. And her accent … oy vey.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 17, 2023 2:32 AM|
This looks very fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 17, 2023 5:42 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 17, 2023 6:03 AM|
Not really into period shows, but I'll give this a go because of the gay content. Had no idea this was even in the works, Galitzine is killing it.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 17, 2023 9:46 AM|
Scotland here. They always get Mary Stuart’s accent wrong. She was raised in France from the age of five, and considered herself a Frenchwoman. Saoirse Roman’s accent was the worst, absolutely hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 17, 2023 11:11 AM|
Oh that looks GOOD.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 17, 2023 11:15 AM|
Julianne Moore cannot do accents. Does NO one remember her travesty of a Boston accent on 30 Rock?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 17, 2023 11:27 AM|
Director Oliver Hermanus made Beauty (2011) which I saw.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 17, 2023 11:28 AM|
Also behind Living from last year, which Bill Nighy got raves for. And the upcoming The History of Sound with Mescal and O'Connor, and he's doing an Alexander McQueen biopic as well. Busy beaver, good for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 17, 2023 11:43 AM|
The other two directors attached so far, Florian Cossen and Alex Winckler, are less known, but extremely cute.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 17, 2023 11:47 AM|
Moore is a mix of English and Scottish so she’s a good look for the character. And she’s a great actress. Pity about the accent though.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 17, 2023 11:50 AM|
Julianne Moore in a gay movie. What a surprise. She's always aweful.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 17, 2023 11:54 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 17, 2023 11:55 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 17, 2023 11:55 AM|
Be faster next time, bitch.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 17, 2023 11:56 AM|
This looks amazing. What a crazy story. Nicholas Galatzine is such a great actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 17, 2023 12:52 PM|
Iggy Pop! How HIP! Also Julianne has amazingly successful ageless plastic surgery.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 17, 2023 12:57 PM|
R7. Mary Stuart is nowhere to be found in that clip…as she would have been long dead.
But you are correct that she spoke with a French accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 17, 2023 1:16 PM|
Could be interesting, but isn't the more compelling story that he threw her mother under the bus at the end to secure his own place as the heir to the throne?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 17, 2023 1:36 PM|
What and who are you talking about? ^
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 17, 2023 1:39 PM|
Can Nick ever play straight?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 17, 2023 1:42 PM|
Is this the King James who wrote the bible?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 17, 2023 1:42 PM|
The very same.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 17, 2023 1:47 PM|
R19 Julianne is probably getting old school work, skin deep face-lifts, no botox. She has to actually be taking care of herself too, because I've seen her up close in person and for a 62 year old pale redhead her skin is incredible.
I've always thought she was very beautiful but is never really talked about as one of our most beautiful actresses?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 17, 2023 3:45 PM|
[quote]for a 62 year old pale redhead her skin is incredible.
She has obviously stayed out of the sun!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 17, 2023 3:57 PM|
I love Julianne. I hope she gets an Oscar nomination for Supporting for May December. She was excellent. But I can think of several roles where she deserved a nomination and got nothing—especially Magnolia.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 17, 2023 10:06 PM|
Count us IN !
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 18, 2023 3:48 AM|
It looks fabulous. This is the perfect show for people like myself who avoided Fellow Travelers because it’s too self-serious.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 18, 2023 4:50 AM|
[quote] Julianne Moore cannot do accents. Does NO one remember her travesty of a Boston accent on 30 Rock?
I can't say that I do.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 18, 2023 4:53 AM|
[quote]because it’s too self-serious.
Gods forbid we had drama as a TV genre.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 18, 2023 4:56 AM|
[quote]Is this the King James who wrote the bible?
No, he just had it translated. Apparently, god wrote it with a bunch of ghost writers doing the actual transcriptions.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 18, 2023 5:13 AM|
I’m in it for Tony Curran.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 18, 2023 5:46 AM|
Curran is a really good actor
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 18, 2023 6:10 AM|
The Duggars and their ilk adore the KKV, so I’m looking forward to their tuning in and getting a scorching eyeful of bum sex
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 18, 2023 6:16 AM|
Someone should tell Mike Johnson that this is an epic about the King James Bible to get him to tune in 🤣 😂
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 18, 2023 6:21 AM|
That was an incredible trailer. I am definitely in. This looks fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 18, 2023 6:41 AM|
Yes, a film about sexual repression, political persecution of homosexuals, and AIDS should be played as high comedy!
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 18, 2023 1:27 PM|
It's either camptastic or a bunch of talented elderactors carry it off. First time I've ever seen Nicola Walker do a costume picture, so it's worth giving a look just for that.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 18, 2023 1:35 PM|
This is my kind of trash--hot, historical, highbrow-ish. Like the Tudors and the then much hotter Henry Cavill.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 18, 2023 2:10 PM|
Nicholas is really pushing the envelope isn't he? This movie looks very raw. I'm here for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 18, 2023 2:12 PM|
Yes yes yes who is that pretty boy? They do rule the world, you know.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 18, 2023 2:14 PM|
Looks like Nicky is topping.. for a change.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 19, 2023 12:57 AM|
As a relative of his, I think it runs in the family to be truthful.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 19, 2023 2:00 AM|
Looking forward to this Curran, Moore and Walker are all good actors. Nicholas is there for looks!
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 19, 2023 2:18 AM|
Nicholas Galitzine is a little minx, isn't he?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 19, 2023 4:02 AM|
R46, not just looks, he's a pretty good actor, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 19, 2023 1:47 PM|
I’m confused. That guy is the King of England. The King James as in the “King James Bible”, right?
And he’s a . . . Um, he enjoys . . . Um, he’s into guys?
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 19, 2023 6:03 PM|
[quote]I’m confused. That guy is the King of England. The King James as in the “King James Bible”, right?
He had the bible translated for purely political reasons, not spiritual ones.
It was to address issues with the puritans and position himself both as a political and spiritual leader - most likely because the puritans have a thing against buggery - as we continue to see with their descendents, at least in thought, the fundie nutbags
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 19, 2023 6:24 PM|
Nicholas Galitzine and Tony Curran while filming.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 20, 2023 1:20 AM|
^ Fun couple. So Galitzine is buggering the King? Thought Villiers was a notorious bottom?
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 20, 2023 1:22 AM|
James I was "cock mad". He was Scot but his collection of pretty boys were called His Majesties Les Mignons (from mignon, French for "the darlings" or "the dainty ones"). Villiers was his choice filet Mignon.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 20, 2023 1:37 AM|
I have a serious crush on Nicholas. I'm half a step away from becoming his internet stalker.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 20, 2023 1:38 AM|
The Matt Damon Trolling is so fresh and funny, DL at its finest. Keep up the good work R49. Your comedy stylings really make a thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 20, 2023 1:41 AM|
^ Those are cock sucking lips if every I saw them.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 20, 2023 2:29 AM|
Nicholas is dreamy. Those lips....
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 20, 2023 3:25 AM|
Did Nicholas get that obnoxious mole removed?
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 20, 2023 3:30 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 20, 2023 3:37 AM|
I expect lots of gulps and bulging eyes and mid-sentence pauses from Our Nicola.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 20, 2023 3:47 AM|
I hope she breaks the fourth wall like she does in Annika. Little asides about buggery and the politics of the day.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 20, 2023 3:43 PM|
Well at least Nick won't need to bring a girlfriend to a public premiere.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 21, 2023 3:25 PM|
Nicky's third gay role he will defiantly be growing a beard very very soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 21, 2023 4:40 PM|
Bingo! Available, actress, attractive, has had experience dating homosexuals, works a mean peg.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 21, 2023 4:44 PM|
Julianne Moore is not playing Mary Stuart. She's playing Mary Villiers, the mother of George Villiers, the last, most important, and most influential favorite of James VI/I.
Historians are still divided over whether their relationship was physical. I believe that stems from residual homophobia. There may not have been a semen-stained hose, but I believe James VI/Ihad a physical relationship with his last favorites, Robert Carr and George Villiers. His earlier ones were more likely based upon looking for a father figure in his first to boon companions with one or two exceptions.
This series will no doubt sex it up to appeal to contemporary tastes. They need not do so, because there's plenty of salacious details to make the story appealing without going overboard.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 21, 2023 4:52 PM|
[quote] His earlier ones were more likely based upon looking for a father figure in his first to boon companions with one or two exceptions.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||November 21, 2023 4:54 PM|
R66, James VI's father was murdered a year after James' birth. He last saw his mother when he was two. As a child, his tutor, George Buchanan, taught him that his mother represented all that was wrong with Scotland. His first favorite was an older cousin, who paid attention to him and was rather cosmopolitan. James was around 13 at the time, and he was probably looking for a father figure. As James grew older, it was obvious that he was attracted to handsome, young men. Were the relationships sexual? Maybe. But there's no smoking gun (or semen stained hose or doublet). One of them was a Scottish noble who saved him from an assassination attempt. Some years after James succeeded Elizabeth to the English throne, Robert Carr, an attractive younger, Scottish noble who came to England with James in 1603, caught the king's attention. In all probability, they became lovers. This did not prevent James from writing that sodomy was the worst possible sin and not worthy of forgiveness. Carr gained considerable influence over James and over policy (and through Carr, a pro-Spanish faction). To curtail that influence, an anti-Spanish faction at the English court arranged a meeting between the king and a young, attractive, minor English noble...George Villiers. Carr fell from the king's favor because of his (and his wife's) involvement in the murder of a Svengali-like figure around Carr. Villers attained greater influence over James and policy than Carr ever had. I have no doubt they were lovers. As an historian, I cannot say that definitively because there is, as I wrote, no semen stained hose or doublet.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 21, 2023 6:08 PM|
Camila Cabello? Seriously?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 21, 2023 6:22 PM|
“Some years after James succeeded Elizabeth to the English throne, Robert Carr, an attractive younger, Scottish noble who came to England with James in 1603, caught the king's attention.”
So he came to London with James in 1603 but did not catch the king’s eye until some years later. Was that eye wonky?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||November 21, 2023 6:27 PM|
Nicholas can leave semen stains on my socks anytime he wants!!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 70||November 21, 2023 6:43 PM|
R8, that pic is from the time they worked in C'inderella' together. Nothing to see there.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||November 21, 2023 7:00 PM|
Bitch face Julianne Moore is in it? No thank you.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||November 21, 2023 7:59 PM|
Nick appears to be touching her, R71.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||November 21, 2023 10:10 PM|
Does anyone else prefer Nick as a blond, as in RW&RB?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 21, 2023 10:11 PM|
R69, Robert Carr came from a Scottish noble family who began his service at the Scottish court as a boy. It is unclear what his position was. After he came down from Scotland, Carr became one of the grooms of the bedchamber, one of a number of attendants in the inner sanctum of the court with close access to the king. He caught the king's eye a few years later in 1607, when he fell from his horse and broke his leg during a jousting tournament. He did not play a political role until after 1612. James never stood in the way of his favorites marrying. And Carr around 1613 becomes infatuated, begins an affair, and falls in love with Frances Howard, a great beauty but in an unhappy marriage to the 2nd earl of Essex. Her family sees its horizons brighten if she marries Carr, the king's favorite. All the while Carr has a friend, Thomas Overbury, who acts as Carr's point man/tutor/Svengali behind the scenes. James will do anything to please his favorite, and he helps to ram through an annulment of her marriage under questionable reasons (non consummation). Overbury is unhappy that his prospects grow dimmer when Carr falls under the influence of the Howards. The Howards want Overbury out of the way, so they get James to offer Overbury a position as his envoy to Muscovy. Overbury realizes he's being sidelined and refuses. James claps him in the Tower, where he dies several months later under mysterious circumstance. About a year later it comes to light he was poisoned, and it was Frances Howard who was behind it. It causes a huge scandal. It's at this juncture that a anti-Howard faction sought to undermine their influence on the king by engineering the meeting between the young, handsome George Villiers and James. The scandal leads to the fall and arrest of Carr and his wife (her for murder). They are found guilty and locked up in the Tower until a few years later when James exiles them to their estates.
This is the far more interesting tale worthy of dramatization. I'm sure this series will touch upon it. As for Villiers, he uses his position as favorite to enrich himself and his family.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||November 22, 2023 12:25 AM|
I do, R74.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||November 22, 2023 12:27 AM|
Between this movie and RW&RB, Nicholas has had more gay anal intercourse than me this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 22, 2023 1:55 AM|
So a few years, not several. That makes some better sense.
That entire line of Stuarts were a bit off, though they tried to pretend otherwise.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||November 22, 2023 2:09 AM|
Oh I very much agree about the Overbury affair, Bonnie Prince. I've been wishing for years somebody would do something with that whole story.
What a glam couple they must have been. Robert Carr, the beautiful boytoy of a king. But Frances Howard was on a whole other level. A Howard, first of all, but connected to Essexes (that ex-husband of hers was the son of the Essex who was Elizabeth's last great love), Walsinghams, Cecils, and everyone else who mattered. She was like the embodiment of the old Elizabethan ruling class. And then caught up in this whole weird story. Dragged into court, not for the traditional, normal Howard offenses of treason and royal adultery, but for poisoning some guy in the Tower? Sordid!
|by Anonymous||reply 79||November 22, 2023 2:27 AM|
You don't have to have semen stained anything dear. We have the letters James wrote to Villlers calling him his WIFE. Don't give me this disingenuous revisionist rot that " well that's the way heterosexual men wrote to each other back in the day." No they don't and no they didn't and all their contemporaries knew they were buggers. The end.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||November 22, 2023 2:58 AM|
[quote] It'll either be really good or really bad - and not in a campy fun way.
That trailer is pure camp.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||November 22, 2023 3:04 AM|
His wife? Wait a second . . .
|by Anonymous||reply 82||November 22, 2023 4:52 AM|
It is pure camp and that's why it looks like incredible fun. Everything teenagers online call camp today is just bad and tacky - a totally different thing - this looks entertaining.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||November 22, 2023 4:31 PM|
Dylan Brady will play Robert Carr in Mary & George
|by Anonymous||reply 84||November 23, 2023 6:29 AM|
Jesus talk about "cock sucking lips".
|by Anonymous||reply 85||November 23, 2023 6:30 AM|
King James and his mignons.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||November 23, 2023 6:33 AM|
R69/ R85 Robert Carr, an attractive younger, Scottish noble who came to England with James in 1603, caught the king's attention.”
Have heard of 'Black Irish" but not 'Black Scot.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||November 23, 2023 6:37 AM|
Glad they didn't go with the wig and goatee . Contemporary look is best on Nicky.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||November 25, 2023 5:16 AM|
Is Nicholas Galitzine getting typecasted or what?
|by Anonymous||reply 89||November 25, 2023 5:21 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 90||November 25, 2023 5:23 AM|
^ No doubt her next role will be as a WWF wrestler pussy hound in a bad wig.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||November 25, 2023 5:31 PM|
LOL - I never made the connection between "mignon" and "minion" until this thread. They had both occupied completely separate places in my brain, so the derivation of the latter from the former never crossed my mind.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||November 26, 2023 3:33 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 93||November 26, 2023 4:17 AM|
Tony Curran, Laurie Davidson, and Nicholas Galitzine on location at Knole House in Sevenoaks, UK while filming . Looks like it was a nude scene as they are wearing warming wrappers between takes.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||December 4, 2023 3:53 AM|
^ "location at Hole House
|by Anonymous||reply 95||December 4, 2023 3:54 AM|
Nikita pursing those cock sucking lips.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||December 6, 2023 4:31 PM|