Buffy Sainte-Marie, Part 2

Native Americans are the only oppressed minority group large numbers of people incorrectly claim to be a part of. It’s strange. Not many people lie about being gay, Jewish, or African-American.

Has Big Bird broken his silence yet?

King Charles needs to invite her to Buckingham Palace so that Lady Susan Hussey can ask her repeatedly, “But where are you really from?” when she starts to go on about her native ”identity”.

I love, how coming from a northern tribe, she goes all in on the turquois🪶🪶

Bluffy is a joke. Why isn't the headline for Bluffy's Thread 2 snarky and jokey as well? Fail.

She even somehow has a native accent...like English isn't her first language.

R6 She must have forgotten that she was adopted by a white family at infancy. Oops.

This cunt

Buffinda Santamaria

sometimes I confuse her with Melanie.

R7 Not adopted...biologically born to.

I think Melanie is better, R10. She wrote some really great songs and her voice isn’t screechy. Buffy sounds like she’s a crying beached whale half the time. Bluffy is discount store Joan Baez.

After seeing that picture on my DL feed everyday, Buffy really does look Italian. I can see her serving me Lasagna and asking my about Uncle Guido.

Oh Melanie is better by leaps and bounds.

What an ugly thread pic looks like shit face

This thread was created just for you, r15 - it goes with your troll posts all over this site.

This whole thing does seem to be dying down.

Buffy pushes back:

""I've heard from countless people with similar stories who do not know where they are from and feel victimized by these allegations," she said. "Most importantly, this is my life — I am not a piece of paper."

I have to say her response is killing me. No mea culpa from her and Iove it.

Every time this topic comes up, I slowly realize I'm hearing Dean Martin singing "...Back in old Napoli, It's Amore" in the back of my mind.

I still strongly wonder if she is a case of a product of an extramarital affair (she looks -nothing- like her blonder siblings), and latched onto the native descent story as a way to make deal with it, while also building a folk entertainment career.

"Being an 'Indian' has little to do with sperm tracking and colonial record keeping: it has to do with community, culture, knowledge, teachings, who claims you, who you love, who loves you and who's your family," said Sainte-Marie, 82, in a written statement to The Canadian Press

She's really pathetic and quite stupid. Does she take everyone for fools?

Family members in the U.S., including Sainte-Marie's younger sister, also told CBC that Sainte-Marie was not adopted and does not have Indigenous ancestry.

Sainte-Marie said she "will not stoop to respond to every false allegation."

However, she said it was common for birth certificates to be "created" after Indigenous children were adopted or taken away from their families. She said she used a birth certificate throughout her life that was the only document she had.

She has never known if it was real, she said.

"I've heard from countless people with similar stories who do not know where they are from and feel victimized by these allegations," she said. "Most importantly, this is my life — I am not a piece of paper."

Thompson said CBC was assured by a town clerk in Stoneham, Mass., that its document on file is an original live birth certificate and it's not possible another was inserted after the fact.

Sainte-Marie also said CBC interviewed two estranged family members whom she doesn't know. She accused them of perpetuating a story fabricated by her alleged childhood abuser.

She doubles down with the same fantasy stories, and displacement and diversion tactics. Pathetic.

I think Buff is a liar, but isn’t it true that adoptive parents can sometimes be named as actual parents on birth certificates?

Has she commented on the letter she wrote to her brother?

^ scratch that, she mentioned it in R17's link

White women do this a lot.

R24 It depends on the state. The CBC documentary covers this well. Her birth certificate was signed by an attending physician present at her birth which wouldn't have happened if she were adopted.

She used the 1941 Massachusetts birth certificate as ID to get married in the 1980’s. She knew where and to whom she was born then, long after becoming Liawatha in the 1960’s.

If she married Eva Marie Saint she'd be Buffy Sainte-Marie-Saint.

It’s not too late.

I loved her in “North By Northwest” but found her to be very Nordic.

I've been reading some commentary on Facebook by native people and found some interesting stories about Buffy:

Someone who has family living on the Priapot reservation says they attend many feasts and festivals but never see her.

Someone else mentioned that she seen Buffy backstage and she seemed much more comfortable hanging out and chatting with the white performers then the indigenous ones.

There were stories of people finding pillowcases and sheets stained brown aby makeup after she'd spent the night.

Who is this person and why should I care?

The only Buffy I ever known was on TV, Buffy Summers; I do not care about fake Indian buffy, we stole their land& they got casinos.

Isn't that enough for these meth-out drunken Indians?

There’s screenshots of her son pretty much confirming Buffy’s ancestry years before this report aired.

Before Buffy’s brother was contacted by the Sesame Street producers, her uncle wrote to a local paper to say Buffy wasn’t Native American.

R35 He wrote them and I threatened his life! Don’t ever do that shit again!

Her sister and son took DNA tests and they showed she was his maternal aunt. It also showed she had zero indigenous blood. So the adoption/mom slept with a Native American man and got her pregnant story gets more and more ridiculous.

She has scrubbed her website of references to being born in Saskatchewan and being Cree. The acting Chief of the Piapot First Nation suggests she take a DNA test.

[quote]The acting Chief of the Piapot First Nation suggests she take a DNA test.

The walls are closing in, and yet Buffy is TRIPLING down on her lie! She's like the musical George Santos.

Oh, who fucking cares?

The purity tests are just a bizarre version of the Aryan/white purity tests by the fascists and white-power thugs.

R39. Or the musical Hilaria. Hilaria just went in with her charade as if no one was the wiser.

The best thing she could do is ask the CBC for air time for a rebuttal and spend the whole time speaking in what she can claim is a dying indigenous language of which she is the last surviving speaker. Then she can dare the racists to claim it’s gibberish.

The best thing she can do is move to her Sicilian homeland and hide in the mountains.

At least we know her bio family won't inherit her millions now.

Liar, liar, wampum on fire!

I’ve been a Buffy fan for decades. This is really bizarre and sad.

She was a UMass/Amherst alum like I was. I loved that.

I guess she needed something to stick out in the crowded folk world of the early 60s. And it just snowballed.

When even your son kind of gives you up, you’re sunk.

Snake oil salesman in a jingle dress!

I don’t think the allegations are true. Massachusetts birth certificates are notoriously unreliable

In spite of the lies, the message was actually spot on. Got to giver her credit. She did it better than the indigenous could do it for themselves.

That’s why it’s so weird. She was a tireless, tireless advocate for indigenous people. She did nothing to embarrass or disgrace them.

Until it turned out that everything she did was embarrassing.

buffy’s real name is Beverly Santamaria and she was born in Massachusetts to an italian american family. That’s just a fact.

She currently lives in hawaii and does nothing for the indigenous canadians that she’s spent a lifetime weirdly and dishonestly cosplaying and stealing valuable opportunities from.

And fuck pretendwomens too.

An ugly bitch for an ugly DL poster

R51 Beverly - WTF, what kind of name is that for an indigenous person from rural Canada. Nobody from a First Nations tribe is going to name their kid - Beverly. It’s just not going to happen.

I remember her on “Sesame Street.”

[quote]That’s why it’s so weird. She was a tireless, tireless advocate for indigenous people. She did nothing to embarrass or disgrace them.

Exhibit A:

To the people who don’t want to believe she is a fraud because “she looks so Native American” many of them saw her on Sesame Street as their first exposure to indigenous anything.

“You take the last cannoli and I’ll whack ya”

R57 That’s like Taco Bell is authentic because it was the first “Mexican” food you were exposed to.

I feel bad for her. I don’t know.

I sort of admire her for whipping out her self-tanned titties on Sesame Street to feed her crotch fruit in front of millions of viewers. Say what you will, but the lady’s got spunk!

r61 sucks

R60 Did you watch the documentary? Because if you do watch you might now feel so bad knowing she threatened her family with financial ruin.

why do people defend charlatans like this woman? even in this thread it’s happening. I find it quite confusing; is it fear of having liked someone who turned out to be a piece of shit?

it’s ok, you can admit to having liked a piece of shit before you knew they were one. we’ve all been there. there’s no need to double down and continue to defend the piece of shit just to save face.

Honestly, R64, I am having a hard time with this. It was a 60 fucking year charade. I was a huge fan. It still seems unbelievable to me that it went this far and got this long. And I still love her music. And I don’t know what to think anymore.

It’s shocking if you remember her from way back. She really got away with quite the scam, but I think it’s undeniable that that’s what she did.

R65 I have this issue with Michael Jackson’s music. Do I only sing along with his childhood songs before he was a child predator?

Also R65 if you want to retain your support for her you can ascribe her ethnicity swapping to her parents’ hiding their Italian heritage by hiding the Italian by modifying their surname.

👆Pardon. Ththththtat’s all folks!

r65 I do get it. I never actually liked her music myself but many people I know did.

Are you Canadian? She was pushed SO hard by the CBC and the Juno awards and whatever other lame awards we have; to me the fact that she isn’t even CANADIAN let alone indigenous Canadian is shocking. Again, she accepted tons of Canadian taxpayer funded grants and awards meant for actual indigenous Canadians. She also claimed throughout the years to be part of a number of separate indigenous groups from various parts of Canada (which makes no sense whatsoever ) until she settled on one.

It’s amazing how some extreme narcissist tendencies/confidence, some dark pancake makeup and some feathers in your hair make the white powers that be ignore all warning signs.

Meanwhile, there are still indigenous communities in Canada without potable drinking water.

It’s all just really disappointing.

Would you ever be friends with someone named Shitta?

R70, no. From the US. IT’s disappointing to hear all of that. I knew she had been raised in MA and we went to the same university (decades apart) and so I thought that was cool. I always did wonder how a Native American woman ended up in MA.

yeah r72 have you read or seen the piece that brought out the truth?

it’s pretty hard to refute especially since it was done by the Canadian broadcasting corporation that had been promoting her for many decades.

Shitta!

He’ll happened to her nose R73. It looks prosthetic.

That should be “hell” happened to her nose but autocorrect.

I just sprayed my with Kiehl’s Musk

I just sprayed my hole

Gross ugly ululating cosplaying grifter. Ew. May she choke on her silly feathers.

R79 you and I are like minded.

I am from Massachusetts. My ex from way back’s father used to always talk about how he and friends went out to a small bar in Western MA in the early 60s and Joan Baez was playing. I love Joan so I was asking him about it and he said, “Yeah, she dressed like an Indian.”

I said, “That must’ve been Buffy Sainte-Marie, actually” and a light went on in his head and he said that’s who it was.

My ex was disappointed that all these years he thought his dad saw Joan Baez live but it was “only Buffy Sainte-Marie.”

Has anyone checked in on Buffy lately?

She’s in the cucina making the gravy, R82

[quote] I always did wonder how a Native American woman ended up in MA.

There are native Americans in Massachusetts.

Buffy just isn’t one of them

She's in Foxwoods, gambling away white man's money.

That pic at the top of the thread is so weird. She looks nothing like she did in the 60s and 70s. And the nose!

What’s the link for the first thread in this conversation? I cannot find it for the life of me and a search turns up nothing.

Buffee

Liawatha, Hoax-ahontas and Fica (Italian for cunt) should be her new nicknames.

R75 Pinnochio nose from all of the lies she's told.

parents’ hiding their Italian heritage by hiding the Italian by modifying their surname

Her parents changed THEIR name for her?!!! So she could get some grift? WTF?!!!

R91 Considering she's a narcissistic cunt who falsely accused her brother of sexual abuse for trying to expose her I'm guessing she made similar threats to get them to comply.

R91, Wikipedia says that they changed it due to anti-Italian sentiment. They chose a French-sounding name instead.

I think this is the previous thread:

R93 I stand corrected. I apologize.

Oddly enough, on her first album she sings “The Incest Song.”

That’s actually the name of it.

Thank you, R94.

Anyone remember the SNL sketch that had Gilda as Buffy?

Oh shit!

The Indigo Girls covered one of her songs. BSM appeared at a time when music labels created a fictional character

What's the differnce between being a "pretendian" and somene who "identifies"? I guess the first is meant to deceive, but remember Rachel what's-her-name, the white woman who said she was black? If anyone identified passionately, it was she.

Buffii

UGLY MUG SHOT

Is Buffy on suicide watch?

Very little heard from her after the initial statement.

She’s 83, hiding out in Hawai’i.

Apparently, Dolezal initially tried to pass herself off as indigenous before African-American.

Ass face

Cunt face

Beef curtain face!!

Buffy’s Italian Beef Curtains, laced with ricotta cheese

Buffy survived the Holocaust. Facts.

R101 It's called transracial. Martina Big is transracial and Ollie London had it for a while but he was just pretending for attention.

I saw Buffy’s Oscar at the Academy Museum yesterday.

Should I have stolen it? I have half indigenous ancestry.

All these people obsessed with her looks. She’s 83 years old. She didn’t look like that when she was younger. I have no idea what happened to her nose.

MY NEZ! MY NEZ! Find your words.