2016 Oscars young actress nominees - why did so many of their careers stall?
The merits of Brie Larson were discussed in the thread about the lack of success for The Marvels and it's true that it didn't go to plan.
When she won in 2016 she was nominated alongside Jennifer Lawrence and Saoirse Ronan with Rooney Mara and Alicia Vikander nominated as supporting, despite both being the shared lead.
So who has gone on to great things?
Saoirse Ronan (1994) followed up Brooklyn with another 2 best actress nominations and is in Steve McQueen's upcoming Blitz
Brie Larson (1989) did the Marvel film, the film where Naomi Watts played her mother, she directed a movie no one saw and did something on Apple TV
Jennifer Lawrence (1990) had some good reviews and a Golden Globe nomination for Don't Look Up but hasn't done anything else of note, and was mocked for her recent comcom.
Alicia Vikander (1988) did a load of films no one saw, including that baby in a boat one, she became Lara Croft and did something on HBO no one bothered watching
Rooney Mara (1985) had an unremarkable part in Lion and was outshone by Nicole Kidman and Dev Patel, did a load of movies no one saw and was part of the ensemble cast in Women Talking, which no one saw. And she as in Nightmare Alley but I can't remember who as, but she was outshone by Cate Blanchett and Toni Collette.
The following year Emma Stone (1988) won for La La Land and then Margot Robbie (1990) got her first of two nominations in 2018. Along with Saoirse Ronan they're the 3 top choices. Florence Pugh (1996) is catching them up.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 21, 2023 7:06 AM
Alicia Vikander is probably seen by most Americans now aa the spokesperson for Nissan. It seems like that’s all she does anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 13, 2023 10:26 PM
Umm, don't you mean Brie Larson, R1?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 13, 2023 10:28 PM
I enjoyed Vikander in HBO's Irma Vep.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 13, 2023 10:34 PM
None, except for Ronan, is a particularly good actress. None are exciting or charismatic.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 13, 2023 10:38 PM
Sigh. For us 80’s survivors, this recent group is so weak. We had Meryl, Sally, Jane, Sigourney, Kathleen Turner, Sissy, Jessica and Cher all working successfully at the same time. The movie industry has really changed.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 14, 2023 1:20 AM
R5, hello! I got 5 nominations in the 80s!
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 14, 2023 1:24 AM
Sorry Glenn. I forgot you and Goldie.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 14, 2023 1:29 AM
Dislike this group of actors excluding the Irish lass
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 14, 2023 1:40 AM
Weinstein created stars. He and his brothers company dominated the media and made his chosen darlings, known and sought after. What happened behind the scenes we all know now, but for a time ,they created the mystic that’s spun gold.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 14, 2023 2:02 AM
They have tried to make Ronan happen, and the paying public just do not fucking care for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 14, 2023 2:06 AM
I don't find anything special about Saoirse Ronan. In fact I think she's homely, dykish, something cornpone or inbred about her. And I'm not just being a cunt, I've watched a number of her films trying to understand the acclaim. I just don't fucking get it.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 14, 2023 2:42 AM
Asking DataLounge about young actresses is always a losing proposition. We inevitably sound like Norma Desmond lamenting how no one will ever compare to the actresses from the silent era.
That most posters on DL are probably wearing a turban and clenching a cigarette holder doesn’t help, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 14, 2023 2:52 AM
I'm a fan of her film, "Brooklyn ". Don't care about the other performers or their work
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 14, 2023 2:56 AM
because Harvey went to prison
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 14, 2023 2:59 AM
Saoirse has too many vowels in an unpronounceable name. I've never seen any of her films, but I did enjoy her Vogue 73 Questions video.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 14, 2023 3:01 AM
Ed fucking Sheeran ruined my career by typecasting me as a pretty little Galway girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 14, 2023 3:03 AM
Shur-shuh? Don't know how to pronounce the name either
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 14, 2023 3:05 AM
I can’t even remember what Brie Larsen and Alicia Vikander look like. I know the names but I have no idea who they are and what they’re been in. I know who Rooney Mara is because she’s so ugly and angry looking all the time
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 14, 2023 3:05 AM
No one seems to have a shelf life anymore. Even Julianne Moore and Natalie Portman can't get any traction for an Oscar nomination.
I like Saoirse Ronan a lot, but she is not really getting great parts or attention. Hopefully that will change.
Alicia Vikander and Jennifer Lawrence were Harvey girls. Jennifer can't seem to get a break, and has been replaced by Margot Robbie.
Brie Larson is a dope. Talk about going a long way on nothing.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 14, 2023 3:50 AM
Alicia is too busy fucking and breeding with Fassie, her husband, to make any movies
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 14, 2023 4:01 AM
OP, what is your native language?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 14, 2023 4:15 AM
R19, Moore and Portman have been stars for over twenty-five years, and Portman was a child then. I think they’ve more than proven their shelf life, even if they can’t get awards traction for a movie that was merely well-reviewed.
Sometimes I think people have trouble wrapping their minds around the idea that not every movie is either a Barbie or a Babylon. There’s a lot of middle ground, and the new Portman-Moore movie looks like a prime example of that.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 14, 2023 5:10 AM
Where are the Pam Austins of today...the Yvonne Craigs?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 14, 2023 5:16 AM
Not a nominee, but Mia Wasikowska was an actress around the same period; she was in the Alice in Wonderland movies by Tim Burton. She promptly dropped off the radar.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 14, 2023 5:38 AM
Brie Larson is oddly non-descript for an actress. I never recognize her.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 14, 2023 5:47 AM
Mia was always competent but one of the blandest actresses imaginable. She has always been a charisma vacuum.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 14, 2023 5:51 AM
Mia was great on In Treatment. So was Dane DeHaan. Neither of them really had great careers after that though.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 14, 2023 6:48 AM
Brie will always have her Nissan commercials.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 14, 2023 6:48 AM
Oscar glory, especially in the Supporting Actress category, at a young age is pretty insignificant to Hollywood career progression. Just ask Mira Sorvino, Jennifer Connelly, Marisa Tomei, Tatum O’Neal, Anna Paquin, and Jennifer Hudson (who followed her Oscar won with a thankless role as Sarah Jessica Parker’s assistant in the Sex and the City movie).
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 14, 2023 2:07 PM
Sweetheart, the day after the 2007 Oscar ceremony, Hollywood had Hudson remorse. She was lucky she got any roles after that. She's a horrible actress.
And the Supporting Actress category is probably the one with the worst track record of all. A large majority of winners in that category didn't even deserve nominations and their careers deserved to tank. The actresses who truly deserve the award rarely win. Since Sorvino's win in 1995, I would say they got it right or came close maybe three times.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 14, 2023 4:10 PM
Julianne Moore has the Susan Sarandon Curse. Every movie since her Oscar is forgettable.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 14, 2023 5:05 PM
Rooney Mara seems....unpleasant
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 14, 2023 5:09 PM
R31 I resemble that remark.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 14, 2023 5:12 PM
Mara is another nepo baby.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 14, 2023 5:15 PM
Vikander was category fraud at its finest.
Marisa Tomei has had a pretty solid career since her win. 2 more Oscar nominations, and still gets plum supporting roles.
Paquin has avoided the child Star curse and still works in quality projects.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 14, 2023 5:15 PM
R31 - Julianne was in that lesbian drama where she was the lesbian cop who hooked up with Ellen Page before she was trans and then Julianne got cancer and Ellen couldn’t get her pension or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 14, 2023 5:17 PM
I showed my tits in Oppenheimer.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 14, 2023 5:28 PM
Emma Stone has done better than expected and will get an Oscar nod for “Poor Things.”
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 14, 2023 5:51 PM
[quote] Julianne Moore has the Susan Sarandon Curse. Every movie since her Oscar is forgettable.
Honey, the movie she won the Oscar for was forgettable (as was the performance).
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 14, 2023 6:06 PM
Mara, to her credit, was in that recent Amish Women's Study movie, which was actually pretty good; Viklander was never that great, but she's a model for luxury brands, she recently had a kid & she's banging Fassy, so there's that. Likewise, Ronan continually shows up in Jack Lowden's insta feed and not much else, but Jesse Buckley seems to have taken her place as the token Plain Faced Irish Actress. Jennifer Lawrence - good riddance
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 14, 2023 6:32 PM
None of these actresses have any charisma or star quality at all, Saoirse can act but is the coldest fish alive and can’t play older than adolescent. Vikander is the real winner of the group - got the pointless Oscar and fucked off to spend her time enjoying Michael Fassbender’s massive sizemeat all day. I’d have easily fucked a dozen Harveys if that would be my reward.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 14, 2023 6:38 PM
Oh, and another point for Vikander she was in the pretty good Oliver Assayas Irma Vep miniseries.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 14, 2023 6:41 PM
Vikander is so bland that she barely registers on film.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 14, 2023 6:43 PM
Mia W said she doesn’t want to work in Hollywood productions and only occasionally does European art films, which is fine. She was good in opposite Tim Roth and Vicky Krieps in Bergman Island. Some actresses actually care about the quality of the work they do - not just Oscar bait prestige or franchise bullshit. Didn’t the average DLer once watch foreign films? Any actress who wants an actual, worthwhile role will try to work in them these days if they’re not fame whores or broke.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 14, 2023 6:45 PM
Mia Wasikowska is a horrible actress. Please, dear, stay far away from Hollywood.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 14, 2023 6:46 PM
She was one of the better Jane Eyres. Which isn’t saying much considering none of them (I’ve seen a good number of the adaptations) were really good. Looked the part more than most. Speaking of, Fassbender was laughably miscast as Mr. Rochester.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 14, 2023 6:49 PM
I remember watching Albert Nobbs years ago and seeing that Mia and Aaron Taylor Johnson were cast in pivotal roles and thinking, Man Glenn really wants to be the only one in this thing who shines. I'm surprised she hired Janet McTeer.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 14, 2023 6:54 PM
Harvey's dimwitted former flame I'm not surprised about. The comet movie I did with her was torture. I am surprised about the Irish girl. Everybody said she was going to be the next Cate Blanchett...
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 14, 2023 6:54 PM
Ronan is one of the most overrated actresses working today. She's not untalented but I've yet to see her in anything where I've gone- wow, what a performance! Four Oscar nominations and she maybe deserved one of them. And goddamn, when she's in a bad movie (and she's been in plenty) she really stinks.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 14, 2023 6:58 PM
Lurking DL during the time of “Albert Nobbs” was a fucking hoot.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 14, 2023 6:58 PM
None of them really has that wow factor star quality that can overcome the lackluste quality of most of their films. Once they age out of being the newest young actress flavor of the month, they are screwed, unless they really luck out.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 14, 2023 7:00 PM
I still can’t believe Vikander won an Oscar and for The Danish Girl of all things.
Brie Larson has an Apple TV series right now and I don’t think anyone’s even started a thread about it. She was good in Short Term 12 and really only so-so in Room. I still think the Academy voters thought that was her story like she was Audie Murphy or somebody.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 14, 2023 7:08 PM
The last I heard of Mia Wasikowska she was in a movie where Susan Sarandon was dying slowly and I had no intention of watching it, I just hoped it was slow and painful.
[quote]I still can’t believe Vikander won an Oscar and for The Danish Girl of all things.
That year she got BAFTA noms for Danish Girl (lead) and Ex Machina (supporting) and lost to Brie Larson and Kate Winslet. She was also the lead in Testament Of Youth where she did an not unconvincing English accent and where Taron Edgerton and Jonathan Bailey play homosexual lovers.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 14, 2023 7:13 PM
R12 What you're trying to say is that you don't want me to love you. Say it. Say it!
[slaps him hard across the face]
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 14, 2023 7:45 PM
I don't understand the poll question. 1996?
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 14, 2023 7:56 PM
Any actress who wins the Oscar and parlays it into superhero movies and luxury car commercials is doomed.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 14, 2023 8:00 PM
Pick the biggest 5 names from these actresses:
Born in 1987: Blake Lively, Evan Rachel Wood, Sarah Snook
Born in 1988: Emma Stone, Zoe Kravitz, Ana de Armas, Alicia Vikander, Vanessa Kirby
Born in 1989: Brie Larson, Datota Johnson, Elizabeth Olson, Juno Temple, Mia Wasikowska, Jessie Buckley,
Born in 1990: Emma Watson, Jennifer Lawrence, Margot Robbie, Kristen Stewart,
Born in 1991: Shailene Woodley, Ariana DuBose
Biggest names: Margot Robbie, Emma Stone, Dakota Johnson, Kristen Stewart and Jennifer Lawrence
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 14, 2023 8:11 PM
This is some kind of OCD working out?
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 15, 2023 1:02 AM
Alicia Vikander winning for The Danish Girl already aged bad when it happened but that win has aged even worse now. Maybe if she won for Ex Machina it wouldn’t look as bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 17, 2023 1:30 AM
I think Jennifer Lawrence has charisma and is a capable actress when cast in the right roles, but she’s not good at picking projects. Her filmography at this rate won’t age very well.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 17, 2023 1:32 AM
It seems like the three most popular actresses right now are
Then you have the hanging on group but aging out fast
The over age 40’s don’t matter
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 17, 2023 2:21 AM
Yeah I don’t like her r60 but lots of people seemed to love her
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 17, 2023 4:07 AM
Stone and Johansson pick interesting projects and are much better actresses than Lawrence.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 18, 2023 5:12 AM
R63 Scarlett Johansson isn't a good actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 21, 2023 1:00 AM
Wait.. Emma Stone isn't a good actress, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 21, 2023 1:01 AM
Saoirse's name is just a bridge too far
|by Anonymous||reply 66||November 21, 2023 1:05 AM
Ronan's performances in Brooklyn and Lady Bird speak to her talent. She was also great in Little Women, but I honestly think was overshadowed by Pugh who made an incredibly dislikable character likable without attempting to be sympathetic. I assumed Ronan was headed toward Kate Winslet's career, culminating with an Academy Award in her early to mid 30s after multiple nominations (she already has 4), but her career has seemed to slow down post-Covid. Collaborating with Gerwig had helped but for obvious reasons wasn't an obvious choice for any of the Barbies. Jessie Buckley seems to be getting more buzz these days in terms of Irish female actors which has to sting after Saoirse spent the last decade as THE Irish female actor (with Ruth Negga also getting some acclaim). As someone upthread pointed out, however, Ronan hasn't moved out of ingenue roles and I wonder if she will get stuck like Winona Ryder unable to transition to leading lady roles.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 21, 2023 1:22 AM
Jennifer Lawrence is complacent. Look at her production company compared to Margot Robbie’s.
Margot gets shit done. And Jennifer Lawrence stopped filming Causeway for a year to prepare for her wedding.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 21, 2023 1:34 AM
It’s so true that Saoirse has fallen. People were calling her the next Meryl Streep but then she got a nose job that made her even more odd looking. Plus she is awkward with fane (closeted lesbian?).
It’s true that Margo seems very savvy compared to the oafish Jennifer Lawrence who has a ton of shelved projects.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||November 21, 2023 1:57 AM
I like Whatever Ronan. I didn’t know she had 4 Oscar noms! She seems to have a lock on the highbrow UK actress thing. Probably will be on a streaming series sooner then later.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||November 21, 2023 2:14 AM
Shelved Jennifer projects
- Sue Mengers film
- Elizabeth Holmes film
|by Anonymous||reply 71||November 21, 2023 2:30 AM
[quote] Shelved Jennifer projects- Sue Mengers film
Do you know this for sure? I recently did a search on Mengers and saw all the announcements about the project but nothing that said it wasn't going forward.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||November 21, 2023 5:19 AM
The Sue Mengers film was announced in 2021. It doesn’t seem to be in production but many films previously announced for Jennifer are in the same boat.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 21, 2023 7:06 AM