2016 Oscars young actress nominees - why did so many of their careers stall?

Alicia Vikander is probably seen by most Americans now aa the spokesperson for Nissan. It seems like that’s all she does anymore.

Umm, don't you mean Brie Larson, R1?

I enjoyed Vikander in HBO's Irma Vep.

None, except for Ronan, is a particularly good actress. None are exciting or charismatic.

Sigh. For us 80’s survivors, this recent group is so weak. We had Meryl, Sally, Jane, Sigourney, Kathleen Turner, Sissy, Jessica and Cher all working successfully at the same time. The movie industry has really changed.

R5, hello! I got 5 nominations in the 80s!

Sorry Glenn. I forgot you and Goldie.

Dislike this group of actors excluding the Irish lass

Weinstein created stars. He and his brothers company dominated the media and made his chosen darlings, known and sought after. What happened behind the scenes we all know now, but for a time ,they created the mystic that’s spun gold.

They have tried to make Ronan happen, and the paying public just do not fucking care for her.

I don't find anything special about Saoirse Ronan. In fact I think she's homely, dykish, something cornpone or inbred about her. And I'm not just being a cunt, I've watched a number of her films trying to understand the acclaim. I just don't fucking get it.

Asking DataLounge about young actresses is always a losing proposition. We inevitably sound like Norma Desmond lamenting how no one will ever compare to the actresses from the silent era.

That most posters on DL are probably wearing a turban and clenching a cigarette holder doesn’t help, either.

I'm a fan of her film, "Brooklyn ". Don't care about the other performers or their work

because Harvey went to prison

Saoirse has too many vowels in an unpronounceable name. I've never seen any of her films, but I did enjoy her Vogue 73 Questions video.

Ed fucking Sheeran ruined my career by typecasting me as a pretty little Galway girl.

Shur-shuh? Don't know how to pronounce the name either

I can’t even remember what Brie Larsen and Alicia Vikander look like. I know the names but I have no idea who they are and what they’re been in. I know who Rooney Mara is because she’s so ugly and angry looking all the time

No one seems to have a shelf life anymore. Even Julianne Moore and Natalie Portman can't get any traction for an Oscar nomination.

I like Saoirse Ronan a lot, but she is not really getting great parts or attention. Hopefully that will change.

Alicia Vikander and Jennifer Lawrence were Harvey girls. Jennifer can't seem to get a break, and has been replaced by Margot Robbie.

Brie Larson is a dope. Talk about going a long way on nothing.

Alicia is too busy fucking and breeding with Fassie, her husband, to make any movies

OP, what is your native language?

R19, Moore and Portman have been stars for over twenty-five years, and Portman was a child then. I think they’ve more than proven their shelf life, even if they can’t get awards traction for a movie that was merely well-reviewed.

Sometimes I think people have trouble wrapping their minds around the idea that not every movie is either a Barbie or a Babylon. There’s a lot of middle ground, and the new Portman-Moore movie looks like a prime example of that.

Where are the Pam Austins of today...the Yvonne Craigs?

Not a nominee, but Mia Wasikowska was an actress around the same period; she was in the Alice in Wonderland movies by Tim Burton. She promptly dropped off the radar.

Brie Larson is oddly non-descript for an actress. I never recognize her.

Mia was always competent but one of the blandest actresses imaginable. She has always been a charisma vacuum.

Mia was great on In Treatment. So was Dane DeHaan. Neither of them really had great careers after that though.

Brie will always have her Nissan commercials.

Oscar glory, especially in the Supporting Actress category, at a young age is pretty insignificant to Hollywood career progression. Just ask Mira Sorvino, Jennifer Connelly, Marisa Tomei, Tatum O’Neal, Anna Paquin, and Jennifer Hudson (who followed her Oscar won with a thankless role as Sarah Jessica Parker’s assistant in the Sex and the City movie).

Sweetheart, the day after the 2007 Oscar ceremony, Hollywood had Hudson remorse. She was lucky she got any roles after that. She's a horrible actress.

And the Supporting Actress category is probably the one with the worst track record of all. A large majority of winners in that category didn't even deserve nominations and their careers deserved to tank. The actresses who truly deserve the award rarely win. Since Sorvino's win in 1995, I would say they got it right or came close maybe three times.

Julianne Moore has the Susan Sarandon Curse. Every movie since her Oscar is forgettable.

Rooney Mara seems....unpleasant

R31 I resemble that remark.

Mara is another nepo baby.

Vikander was category fraud at its finest.

Marisa Tomei has had a pretty solid career since her win. 2 more Oscar nominations, and still gets plum supporting roles.

Paquin has avoided the child Star curse and still works in quality projects.

R31 - Julianne was in that lesbian drama where she was the lesbian cop who hooked up with Ellen Page before she was trans and then Julianne got cancer and Ellen couldn’t get her pension or something.

I showed my tits in Oppenheimer.

Emma Stone has done better than expected and will get an Oscar nod for “Poor Things.”

[quote] Julianne Moore has the Susan Sarandon Curse. Every movie since her Oscar is forgettable.

Honey, the movie she won the Oscar for was forgettable (as was the performance).

Mara, to her credit, was in that recent Amish Women's Study movie, which was actually pretty good; Viklander was never that great, but she's a model for luxury brands, she recently had a kid & she's banging Fassy, so there's that. Likewise, Ronan continually shows up in Jack Lowden's insta feed and not much else, but Jesse Buckley seems to have taken her place as the token Plain Faced Irish Actress. Jennifer Lawrence - good riddance

None of these actresses have any charisma or star quality at all, Saoirse can act but is the coldest fish alive and can’t play older than adolescent. Vikander is the real winner of the group - got the pointless Oscar and fucked off to spend her time enjoying Michael Fassbender’s massive sizemeat all day. I’d have easily fucked a dozen Harveys if that would be my reward.

Oh, and another point for Vikander she was in the pretty good Oliver Assayas Irma Vep miniseries.

Vikander is so bland that she barely registers on film.

Mia W said she doesn’t want to work in Hollywood productions and only occasionally does European art films, which is fine. She was good in opposite Tim Roth and Vicky Krieps in Bergman Island. Some actresses actually care about the quality of the work they do - not just Oscar bait prestige or franchise bullshit. Didn’t the average DLer once watch foreign films? Any actress who wants an actual, worthwhile role will try to work in them these days if they’re not fame whores or broke.

Mia Wasikowska is a horrible actress. Please, dear, stay far away from Hollywood.

She was one of the better Jane Eyres. Which isn’t saying much considering none of them (I’ve seen a good number of the adaptations) were really good. Looked the part more than most. Speaking of, Fassbender was laughably miscast as Mr. Rochester.

I remember watching Albert Nobbs years ago and seeing that Mia and Aaron Taylor Johnson were cast in pivotal roles and thinking, Man Glenn really wants to be the only one in this thing who shines. I'm surprised she hired Janet McTeer.

Harvey's dimwitted former flame I'm not surprised about. The comet movie I did with her was torture. I am surprised about the Irish girl. Everybody said she was going to be the next Cate Blanchett...

Ronan is one of the most overrated actresses working today. She's not untalented but I've yet to see her in anything where I've gone- wow, what a performance! Four Oscar nominations and she maybe deserved one of them. And goddamn, when she's in a bad movie (and she's been in plenty) she really stinks.

Lurking DL during the time of “Albert Nobbs” was a fucking hoot.

None of them really has that wow factor star quality that can overcome the lackluste quality of most of their films. Once they age out of being the newest young actress flavor of the month, they are screwed, unless they really luck out.

I still can’t believe Vikander won an Oscar and for The Danish Girl of all things.

Brie Larson has an Apple TV series right now and I don’t think anyone’s even started a thread about it. She was good in Short Term 12 and really only so-so in Room. I still think the Academy voters thought that was her story like she was Audie Murphy or somebody.

The last I heard of Mia Wasikowska she was in a movie where Susan Sarandon was dying slowly and I had no intention of watching it, I just hoped it was slow and painful.

[quote]I still can’t believe Vikander won an Oscar and for The Danish Girl of all things.

That year she got BAFTA noms for Danish Girl (lead) and Ex Machina (supporting) and lost to Brie Larson and Kate Winslet. She was also the lead in Testament Of Youth where she did an not unconvincing English accent and where Taron Edgerton and Jonathan Bailey play homosexual lovers.

R12 What you're trying to say is that you don't want me to love you. Say it. Say it!

[slaps him hard across the face]

I don't understand the poll question. 1996?

Any actress who wins the Oscar and parlays it into superhero movies and luxury car commercials is doomed.

Pick the biggest 5 names from these actresses:

Born in 1987: Blake Lively, Evan Rachel Wood, Sarah Snook

Born in 1988: Emma Stone, Zoe Kravitz, Ana de Armas, Alicia Vikander, Vanessa Kirby

Born in 1989: Brie Larson, Datota Johnson, Elizabeth Olson, Juno Temple, Mia Wasikowska, Jessie Buckley,

Born in 1990: Emma Watson, Jennifer Lawrence, Margot Robbie, Kristen Stewart,

Born in 1991: Shailene Woodley, Ariana DuBose

Biggest names: Margot Robbie, Emma Stone, Dakota Johnson, Kristen Stewart and Jennifer Lawrence

This is some kind of OCD working out?

Alicia Vikander winning for The Danish Girl already aged bad when it happened but that win has aged even worse now. Maybe if she won for Ex Machina it wouldn’t look as bad.

I think Jennifer Lawrence has charisma and is a capable actress when cast in the right roles, but she’s not good at picking projects. Her filmography at this rate won’t age very well.

It seems like the three most popular actresses right now are

Margot Robbie

Zendaya

Florence Pugh

Then you have the hanging on group but aging out fast

Emma Stone

Jennifer Lawrence

Scarlett Johansson

The over age 40’s don’t matter

Yeah I don’t like her r60 but lots of people seemed to love her

Stone and Johansson pick interesting projects and are much better actresses than Lawrence.

R63 Scarlett Johansson isn't a good actress.

Wait.. Emma Stone isn't a good actress, either.

Saoirse's name is just a bridge too far

Ronan's performances in Brooklyn and Lady Bird speak to her talent. She was also great in Little Women, but I honestly think was overshadowed by Pugh who made an incredibly dislikable character likable without attempting to be sympathetic. I assumed Ronan was headed toward Kate Winslet's career, culminating with an Academy Award in her early to mid 30s after multiple nominations (she already has 4), but her career has seemed to slow down post-Covid. Collaborating with Gerwig had helped but for obvious reasons wasn't an obvious choice for any of the Barbies. Jessie Buckley seems to be getting more buzz these days in terms of Irish female actors which has to sting after Saoirse spent the last decade as THE Irish female actor (with Ruth Negga also getting some acclaim). As someone upthread pointed out, however, Ronan hasn't moved out of ingenue roles and I wonder if she will get stuck like Winona Ryder unable to transition to leading lady roles.

Jennifer Lawrence is complacent. Look at her production company compared to Margot Robbie’s.

Margot gets shit done. And Jennifer Lawrence stopped filming Causeway for a year to prepare for her wedding.

It’s so true that Saoirse has fallen. People were calling her the next Meryl Streep but then she got a nose job that made her even more odd looking. Plus she is awkward with fane (closeted lesbian?).

It’s true that Margo seems very savvy compared to the oafish Jennifer Lawrence who has a ton of shelved projects.

I like Whatever Ronan. I didn’t know she had 4 Oscar noms! She seems to have a lock on the highbrow UK actress thing. Probably will be on a streaming series sooner then later.

Shelved Jennifer projects

- Sue Mengers film

- Elizabeth Holmes film

R70 Name her last film.

[quote] Shelved Jennifer projects- Sue Mengers film

Do you know this for sure? I recently did a search on Mengers and saw all the announcements about the project but nothing that said it wasn't going forward.

The Sue Mengers film was announced in 2021. It doesn’t seem to be in production but many films previously announced for Jennifer are in the same boat.

I must be the only one because I find Brie Larson's naturalness really stunning (even though you can see her working with her line delivery sometimes). If she never does anything else, she's done 2 excellent films.

I liked Alicia Vikander in Ex Machina.

Mara is one note with zero warmth or appeal. No idea why Cate Blanchett was drawn to her in Carol. Ronan is a terrific actress but she hasn't been getting great roles lately. But she will again.

I'd say of the ones you listed Jennifer Lawrence is the most successful.

Margot Robbie, Emma Stone, Zendaya and Florence Pugh are the only actresses anyone cares about right now. The others named in this thread are left fighting for those four women’s scraps. Rooney Mara is a total nonentity and doesn’t even register. If Jennifer Lawrence and Brie Larson are the current B tier, Mara is a D at best.

Well I'm completely out of touch. I couldn't pick Brie Larson or Alicia Vikander out of a lineup. I've liked Ronan in a few things. I've liked Emma Stone in a few things. I dislike Margot Robbie and I'm neutral on Emma Stone.

I like Mia whatsherface based on In Treatment and Jane Eyre.

Fave actress these days = Samantha Morton and I don't see her in enough projects.

I've liked Emma Stone in a few things and then two seconds later I'm neutral.

I suppose I'm neutral on Emma then.

Zendaya seems like a supermodel/fashion maven who acts. Yes she’s done Spider-Man and Dune, but has she proved she’s a bankable movie star to rival the likes of Robbie, Stone and Lawrence?

I’d add Sydney Sweeney to that list, R79. She’s being credited with the revival of the romcom, is opening a buzzy horror film next week, showed she has real chops in “Reality” and is the breakout “Euphoria” star. She’s ascending rapidly.

Sweeney's "ascending" as fast as her tits will take her!

She's just last year's marginally talented blonde. She'll age out in her 30's, not talented enough to make it to her 40's.

One could say the same of Margot Robbie circa “Wolf of Wall Street,” R84.

I could never see any of these actresses in a movie again and be perfectly happy.

My niece Beverley Mitchell was also poised to be “the next big thing.” It can all be taken from you at any moment, so I hope none of them get too comfortable. Save and invest, ladies.

Tell me about it.

R87 Oh dear.