Seeing a Guy who is a "Republican"

Ask him when’s the last time he had an abortion.

Plain and simple: your new boyfriend is a racist, sexist piece of shit. Dump his fucking ass ASAP.

Ask him if he believes men can have an abortion.

Note- he is a great person who will drop everything to do something for someone.

He has a love of books, opera, classical music, wine, travel, and politics. I have learned so much from him. He always breaks things down where I can understand them.

Nowhere do you say how you feel about any of these issues OP. How do you?

By chance would your new boyfriend's name be Tim Scott or Mike Johnson?

[quote]thinks their needs to be reform on transiting

I agree. We need to invest in high speed rail, while also improving our bridge infrastructure.

Does he believe that the issue of human slavery should be decided by the states?

R5 I honestly don't know enough on politics to really have an opinion. I just want everyone to be happy. Politics is too ugly for me

How is he racist?

Smother him in his sleep.

Seems like a center road kind of guy. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just that both sides like to fly to the extremes and are stupidly loud about it.

He’s a member of a party that actively seeks to harm communities of color through things like racial gerrymandering and voter suppression.

If he’s not racist, he’s complacent being a part of a group that, as a body, is.

[quote]He does think gay marriage is a Constitutional right

What a shocking coincidence that the civil right he doesn't think should be left up to the states is the one that directly impacts him!

[quote] but thinks their needs to be reform on transiting

R7 beat me to the punch on one aspect, but I’m gonna damn well say it…

Oh Dear!

OP, when you bring him his martini, and he puts down his New York Post, does he make fun of your puny cocklet?

[quote] He doesn't think abortions should be legal after 12-15 weeks, unless the life of the mother is at stake.

How close does the mother have to be to death for this to kick in, as far as he's concerned? Absolutely 100% verge of death, as seems to be the case in wingnut states, or something else? What if it's the fetus that is dying, or doomed to die within a short time after being born? What about rape and incest? Why 15 weeks? What is sacred about that number? What if it's 20 weeks? What is the big moral difference?

"What should I do? "

Put a pillow over his face and sit on it 😜

Calm down libtards. If you go through life hating everyone who doesn't think like you and vote like you, you are the prejudiced ones. There have to be multiple points of view to make a society get to the best ideas. Equating all republicans as pro slavery is silly. Remember civil discourse? Some of you sounds like a bunch of hysterical ninnies.

He of course thinks slavery is wrong and should not be given to the states. How did we jump to that anyway?

He is a good person overall. I would definitively be more of the feminine/domesticated one. He reads the NYT and the WSJ. He also likes the PBSNewshour, Firing Line, and Frontline.

His favorite films are Lawrence of Arabia and The Maltese Falcon. He's only 30!

OP, level with us. He has a huge cock and you hate his politics.

R21 We haven't had sex yet. We've only been seeing each for about a month and he says he only sleeps with people he is committed to, which I respect.

How much time does he spend in log cabins?

do you hand him his slippers, smoking jacket and a martini when he comes home from work?

There is no such thing as a "Federalist." There are only assholes who believe that states should have all the power - until a state's VOTERS overwhelmingly for something that "Federalists" don't like. THEN they believe whatever it is should be federally banned.

This guy sounds like a hypocritical asshole and he will become more and more of one over time. Guaranteed.

OP = Stepford Wife.

[quote] Calm down libtards.

I am calm, Yoda calm.

[quote] If you go through life hating everyone who doesn't think like you and vote like you, you are the prejudiced ones.

Prejudice is about prejudging what somebody's views and outlook and intelligence and goodness are, depending on external factors. When you know their views and outlook, you are dealing with something else and not some "prejudice."

[quote] There have to be multiple points of view to make a society get to the best ideas.

True, but trivial. There can certainly be points of view that actually make you a bad person for embracing them. Very much including political points of view. And of course, some ideas are just stupid and wrong and have no real value, even in support of some mythical goal of diversity of viewpoints.

[quote] Equating all republicans as pro slavery is silly. Remember civil discourse? Some of you sounds like a bunch of hysterical ninnies.

Yes, I do remember civil discourse, in the faraway time. Sadly it was all in ancient history, and there are no written records or survivors. By the way, if your first sentence contains the word "libtards" you may want to rethink how civil your own discourse is.

I get the impression that his family has money. Just from the way he talks and acts.

He doesn't watch TV like the Real Housewives, which I love. He reads or watches the news or classy movies like Lawrence of Arabia or Gosford Park.

Oh, God. Is he from the South?

This won’t end well as you’re not compatible.

Are you entering into one of those can’t be broken Mike Johnson kind of marriages ? If not then quit overthinking and enjoy yourself.

I've only skimmed this but feel like I know too much. I wish y'all the best, OP, although I think that this won't end well.

So I think a lot of his Republicanism is from being in this white upper class shelter his entire life. He also has an MBA and a JD. He is very economic and academic minded. I think he has never met a "real" person until me.

R29 He is from New Hampshire, but we live in the south.

OP? What makes you a "real" person? Just curious.

R32

Let’s hope your man is a reader of DL because that would solve your problem. His politics would no longer be an issue.

Your boyfriend is a terrible person. There's no getting around it. Yes, he may be kind to those around him, and help others when help is needed. But essentially he approves of, and votes for, people who would deny you your constitutional rights as a citizen, he votes for people who would take away needed money from the poor and give it to the rich, he votes for people who do their best to restrict the rights of all minority groups, from women to people of color etc.

No matter how nice he may seem to you, he is not nice. He is, again, a terrible person.

R33 Real person as in I had a middle class childhood, I went to a small state school where I struggled to pay rent, I got a crappy cubicle job out of college, etc. I watch reality tv and listen to rap music.

He went to private schools his entire life. He watches PBS and only listens to classical music.

We have class differences, but we like each other. I have always thought of myself as super liberal but he has some great points and I brought it to DL to discuss.

OP, come off it. You never had sex? Do you kiss and make out?

[quote] Prejudice is about prejudging what somebody's views and outlook and intelligence and goodness are

Prejudice!

Wrote a song ‘bout it! Want to hear it?

Here it go!

[QUOTE]He of course thinks slavery is wrong and should not be given to the states. How did we jump to that anyway?

Because prior to the American Civil War the issue of slavery WAS entirely in the hands of the states and your "Federalist" boyfriend wants to return to the good ol' days when this country was more divided than it is now. You sound like kind of person that the thread below is all about.

OP, you stated you didn’t know much about politics and then you said you’re “super liberal”???

This thread is FAKE.

I think you have to be trolling or you’re a complete idiot.

R25 is absolutely correct. Not quite the same thing as dealing with hypocritical Federalists, but along the same lines.

I worked with a guy awhile ago who was a selectman or some leader in his tiny, podunky New Hampshire village. He was telling me about how great it was that most everyone there were libertarian and left each other to their own business.

EXCEPT for the one house and property that became very trashy when its owners died and their kids neglected it. The town had to take custody of it and force the children to sell it. It was bought by someone who spun it off and sold it to Dollar General or some other shitty store. They erected a too-large eyesore of a sign and put the driveway entrance on the wrong street, in the opinion of the townspeople. So the council this coworker was on was currently trying to fight that and tell the store what they needed to do with their own property.

Someone up thread seems to think that gerrymandering is only done by one party.

That is complete bullshit.

Frankly, I think we should ask Canada to draw our electoral district boundaries based solely on geography. That would eliminate any and all gerrymandering.

How big is his cock?

[quote]he says he only sleeps with people he is committed to,

Oh... that means there's Sum Ting Wong

OP, in this thread you've claimed "I honestly don't know enough on politics to really have an opinion. I just want everyone to be happy. Politics is too ugly for me"...

But in another thread ('𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐇.𝐖. 𝐁𝐮𝐬𝐡'), you said, "I have spent a lot of time studying modern politics and the American presidents from Eisenhower to Biden."

Which is it?

(You're also the one who, on the '𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐮𝐩 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐜𝐡' thread, trolled, "I am a gay Presbyterian please help." )

As an outsider I find American politics so soul destroying. You are either Blue or Red and nothing in-between.

[quote]He says he is a federalist, that is giving more power to the states. He says things are done better at the state level. He said taking issues like abortion to the states was the right thing and the responsibility is on the citizens to educate people on the issues and register them to vote.

On some issues, you cannot have a patchwork of legislation, especially when some states decide that going across state lines to engage in a perfectly legal activity in that state is breaking the state law.

Ask you bf whether he's in favor of a democracy or a republic. You'll have an answer about whether he knows what he's talking about or whether it's all just convenient soundbites to hide his true nature.

R19 voted for a carnival barker to be president but thinks liberals are "ninnies"

Where do you live r48? How "in between" are you as far as your own country's politics are? Be honest. Everybody likes to picture himself as the perfect centrist, but really, are you? Are you even mildly leftist in your country, and if you are, just what do you say the Republicans in the U.S. are correct about?

Jesus Christ, OP, is your name Opie?

When did "federalism" come to mean "giving more power to the states"? Are Republicans fucking retarded?

I was going to ask the same question, R53.

R47

“Which is it”

The op is obviously a teller of tall untruthful tales. They are not to be trusted or believed. Like this made up story.

Who would believe that any sane person would spread the personal details of someone they allegedly liked on the internet for 100s maybe 1000s of people in time to read.

Enough info posted on line about who he is so that someone with just a little bit of natural detective in them could track the alleged real person down. It’s a very small state.

I am going with this is all bullshit. For the sake of the alleged boyfriend I hope so.

Who is he planning on voting for in 2024?

Program Major Book Troll lives!

It’s even worse if he’s from NH. I can imagine how unpleasant it would be to have to listen to what hateful rhetoric and rationalizations that he says. OP needs to improve the concern troll game. Here is an appropriate bootstrapping link

[quote] He says he is a federalist, that is giving more power to the states.

This is literally the exact opposite of what federalism means.

a supporter of federal government

1. : a supporter of federal government. especially, often capitalized : a supporter of the adoption of the U.S. Constitution. 2. capitalized : a member of a major political party in the early years of the U.S. favoring a strong central national government.

Did you find out from him if Rosanne was acting as a weapon during the recent dump rally by achieving a unique sound frequency to trigger the libs?

Log Cabin troll

1/10 EST

🫵🏻

So - your boyfriend has these theories of how things should work, but let's look at fucking reality.

Republicans try to suppress voting anywhere they can and gerrymander to keep themselves in power.

Republican administrations have single-handedly blown up our deficit every time they're in power, then when they're not in power, say we have to be more budget-friendly and not spend so wrecklessly.

Republicans have not offered a single policy to help the lives of the middle and lower classes in the last 20 years - just block it.

Republicans are AGAINST healthcare access for all and want to reduce or eliminate Social Security and Medicare - yes, they do.

And look at their base. Racists, Fascists, White Supremacists, People who want to ban books, people who are anti-gay.

Why would a gay man look at that party and who it's filled with and say - yep, that's the one for me! Particularly a gay man?

Your boyfriend sounds like a rose-tinted idiot, if I can be honest. He believes in political theory more than actual practice and what is currently going on.

It’s an EST

Like DL is not full of rich white folks

R2 I do find it interesting that the same people (far left liberals) who categorize a group of people (conservatives) like that and think that’s fine lose their shit when someone else says “all Muslims are terrorists” or “all blacks are criminals.”

Someone who is center right is going to be very different than someone who is far right, just like someone who is center left (me) is going to be very different than someone who is far left (you).

R65 fails to understand recent changes in the two party system’s respective coalitions.

R66 I know perfectly well. The far right and far left are both batshit crazy.

No—that’s not it.

R68 Yes it is

One party has gone entire over the edge—against government for the common good, in favor of a populist autocracy simply for the sake of power. The other party hasn’t. FIFY R67

R69 troll on, dude…but you’re just treading water.

My bf says there are three parties:

Democrats

Republicans

MAGA Trumpers

R70/R71 Are you talking about the party or the people? The party, yes. The people have varying reasons for why they vote the way they do. Personally, I couldn’t bring myself to vote republican, but I also understand that the Democratic Party isn’t doing shit to help the people either.

So, what should I do about my bf?

[quote] So, what should I do about my bf?

I think you should have him fuck you before you call him your bf again. Currently, all you are to him is an acolyte/sycophant sucking up everything except his cock, balls and DNA.

R73 needs to learn how to read .

R75 Okay lol. I will make my move. Is he a moderate Republican?

R76 No, YOU need to learn how to read. I was talking about individual voters, not the parities themselves.

If he’s a Republican then he’s also a sloppy pig bottom who will cry after he comes. They always are.

Read the damned thread title ..and then the thread. Jesus Christ.

[quote] I honestly don't know enough on politics to really have an opinion. I just want everyone to be happy. Politics is too ugly for me

[quote]He doesn't watch TV like the Real Housewives, which I love. He reads or watches the news or classy movies like Lawrence of Arabia or Gosford Park.

OP, if this isn't a parody thread, a cultured, obviously wealthy man who holds that his own rights should be sacred while everyone else's should be left up to state legislatures is the perfect husband for you.

R81 why do you say that?

There are many things which even moderate Republicans have supported, long before Trump came along, which make anyone still willing to be an open member of the modern Republican Party immediately suspect.

OP, at best they are the type who would go against their ethics and morals to get a couple of points off their effective tax rate. Never forget that your new fellow will drop you the second it benefits himself.

R27 really owned R19.

Damn. That was precise and brutal.

Knew this was an EST the second I read OPs states' rights loving new guy was also a "Federalist".

OP went and got some terms screwed up, mixed around, and all fucked up.

He’s a fucking idiot, and you are too OP.

Not a a troll!

R73 - the Democratic party aint helping people either? You're either stupid or high.

I choose the former. Look it up you lazy fool.

R27 Oh, Honey. Libtards is me being kind. And look at your trying to break down my post. I'm flattered. Mainly because I was drunk when I wrote it. Fa la la la la la la la la.

There are no centrist Republicans anymore. They're all MAGA, some are just ultra MAGA and others are MAGA lite. Now you can still consider yourself conservative or centrist, but if you use the term "Republican" you are a MAGA, period. It's the party of Trump now, just own it.

[quote]He said taking issues like abortion to the states was the right thing

Ask him why the Republicans are trying to take it AWAY from the states now. Ask him why Lindsay Graham and Tim Scott want a national ban.

R51, I live in one of those 'Socialist' countries that so called Repugs hate with a passion. Politics here is not mentioned much and no one talks about who they voted for etc. My partner of 40 odd years was bought up centre-right. I was bought up a leftie/greenie and neither of us are religious. Life's easy without politics screwing with people. As I've said on another thread America needs more political parties, your 2 party system is f*cked.

You just need to see if the dick is worth it, OP. Him holding back and not fucking either means he has small balls (low sex drive), he's fucking around or is used to guys just wanting his dick (and nothing else) after they see him naked.

Most likely option 1.

R13, Muslims are members of a religion that seeks to throw gays off rooftops. Let’s ban Muslims from coming into the US. Even moderate Muslims are complicit in that problem.

So - your boyfriend has these theories of how things should work, but let's look at fucking reality.

[quote]Republicans try to suppress voting anywhere they can and gerrymander to keep themselves in power.

So? Democrats want to let more and more people across the border so that they can get more blue voters and get more power.

[quote]Republican administrations have single-handedly blown up our deficit every time they're in power, then when they're not in power, say we have to be more budget-friendly and not spend so wrecklessly.

True. The last president to balance the budget was Bill Clinton.

[quote]Republicans have not offered a single policy to help the lives of the middle and lower classes in the last 20 years - just block it.

What have Democrats done?

[quote]Republicans are AGAINST healthcare access for all and want to reduce or eliminate Social Security and Medicare - yes, they do.

Because it costs money, especially when the cost of healthcare has become exorbitantly high. But some Republicans would rather replace social security with UBI.

[quote]And look at their base. Racists, Fascists, White Supremacists, People who want to ban books, people who are anti-gay.

There are Democrats that want to ban books as well, like To Kill a Mockingbird and Huck Finn. And the Democrats have their own extremists, like the “peaceful protesters” of 2020.

[quote]Why would a gay man look at that party and who it's filled with and say - yep, that's the one for me! Particularly a gay man?

Why would a gay man look at a party that wants to medically transition proto-gay children and think, “Yep, that’s the party for me.”

Your boyfriend sounds like a rose-tinted idiot, if I can be honest. He believes in political theory more than actual practice and what is currently going on.

R72, your BF is an idiot. The Republican Party is MAGA.

With the Dems, yes, there are some far leftists but they are mostly out there on their own.

In the GOP, the far right is the base of power.

The U.S. is the argument against Federalism. States would be corrupt, fiefdoms that would destroy democracy. Look at FL or TX. Those states cannot be left to govern themselves, they would erode the U.S. constitution if given the chance.

R97

Yes democracy is far too important to our way of life to entrust it to the people the voters.

People love voting, the will of the people, and most of all democracy , right up until they find themselves on the short end of election results. Then it’s the people who can’t be trusted.

R91 I asked him about this. He said a nation ban was "ridiculous."

He said states voting on abortion, like Ohio, is how a democracy should work. He said Republicans have fought to get Roe overturned and back to the states for 50 years and they finally got it, but they are being greedy. He said they are being unrealistic because a national ban would never pass in the House or Senate as close as it is. He said there are a few pro-choice Republican Senators.

We were texting last night and this is what he sent:

"Civics education is the most important issue facing our democracy. A majority of Americans can name more American Idol judges than Supreme Court justices. That is a major problem facing our country if we expect people to vote. We must educate them. Look at Georgia. When Stacy Abrams lost she educated citizens and helped them register to vote. Georgia turned blue. while I disagree with Abrams on many issues, she did what good citizens should do: educate people in civics and voting.

Several people have been fighting for the civics cause: Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and David Souter, the Hollywood actor Richard Dreyfuss, Condoleezza Rice, the historian David McCollough, just to name a few. There was a bipartisan Senate bill last year sponsored by John Cornyn and Chris Coons on civics education funding. I am excited to see what this leads to."

I don't know who the bigger idiot here is: the neanderthal boyfriend with his air of privilege and entitlement or the queen who keeps running back here seeking out the opinions of people on an anonymous message board.

[quote] As I've said on another thread America needs more political parties, your 2 party system is f*cked.

Agree, especially since one of those parties at this point is just a cult built around a needy corrupt clown. I do wish the House had a more parliamentary structure, or maybe dissolved parties altogether. One of the stupid dynamics we've developed is this need for the House to either be the sworn enemy of the president, fighting him bitterly every step of the way, or an extension of the White House, carrying out his plans and proposals. Not really how it was ever supposed to work. Would love to see coalitions forming and dissolving based on the issue at hand instead.

But since the House can barely get its shit together in time to pass a budget, major constitutional changes are probably beyond hope.

R101 okay rude

I am honestly asking for advice?

And while we're on the topic of the states being independent, the blue states are carrying the red states. Places like NY or Cally spend a dollar in tax revenue but only get back a percentage. Poor shitholes like Mississippi and Alabama contribute less to the Treasury but get back more in subsidies.

We're carrying these backward, third world states. They would immediately collapse into Somalia if left to their own devices. So the whole states rights thing is bullshit, we need a Federal government.

If nothing else, the civilized states should come together to form some kind of public option for health care. California can do it by itself, but for most states, some kind of coalition will probably be necessary, and yes, that brings in weird and stupid complications. But still, it would be worth it. The entire Midwest should have some kind of public option buy-in. We all know the primitive South will make any reasonable thing impossible in Congress, so states will have to come together themselves.

In that sense, OP, I see what your boyfriend is getting at with "federalism."

[quote]Agree, especially since one of those parties at this point is just a cult built around a needy corrupt clown.

So sad and so true.

[quote]Civics education is the most important issue facing our democracy.

From someone who inverts the definition of Federalism 180°. Dunning, meet Kruger.

OP you don't seem very bright, and come off as feeling extremely inferior to your "boyfriend," who you seem to think hung the moon and stars. Have you written a song for him yet? A sonnet? (that's a type of poem, by the way).

You also seem extremely naive and are acting like a teenager. You're seeking validation from him, and from us. You seem to think this guy's shit doesn't stink, when it does. He sits on a toilet like the rest of us and what comes out of his ass STINKS. Stop acting like this guy is some movie star or bright and intelligent political thinker.

You're infatuated. You need to have sex with this guy and get it over with because your idolization of him is a bit much.

R109 Wow. That is really harsh. I might not be the smartest person here but I have a heart. He is a person who has taught me a lot about culture and history I never would have known before.

You are all talking politics and not what I asked.

Well, r110, your original question was:

[quote] I have been seeing a guy who says he is a Republican. What should I do?

Who the fuck knows? Do you like him? Stay with him. Do you not like him? Break up with him. Should you ask a bunch of strangers online if you like him or don't like him? No, you should not.

Either way, who the fuck knows if you don't.

Glad you have a heart, but try not to be a complete moron about everything else.

R111 I am conflicted that's why I am asking.

OP are you dating Kelsey Grammer? His texts are giving wannabe erudite. Maybe I'm being overly sensitive, but he comes off as condescending. Does this man ever ask you what YOU think about abortion, states rights, immigration, etc? And do you know how YOU feel about these issues?

I think you're focusing on his actions VS your feelings. Also, and this is my opinion: if you live in America, being "apolitical" = complacent. Do you vote, at least?

R95 is stupid and unhinged.

R113 He does ask me, but I am not well informed really.

I think abortion is sad and wish it didn't happen. It is sad for everyone involved. But I'm not a woman. My mother taught me to not talk politics or religion because it was too divisive. she said art and travel were better topics to discuss.

R102 doesn’t understand why we in fact have a two-party system…and why that won’t change in anyone’s lifetime. It is what it is. For simplicity’s sake:

Excerpt: The need to win popular support in a republic led to the American invention of voter-based political parties in the 1790s. Americans were especially innovative in devising new campaign techniques that linked public opinion with public policy through the party. Political scientists and historians have divided the development of America's two-party system into six or so eras or "party systems", starting with the Federalist Party, which supported the ratification of the Constitution, and the Democratic-Republican Party or the Anti-Administration party (Anti-Federalists), which opposed a powerful central government.

So it goes ;)

Who is a currently-serving Republican that your BF thinks is a great politician and thinks like him?

[quote]I think abortion is sad ...

Such negativity! You need to make a party of it. 🎉

R119 He said something about Choffee?

He does like New Hampshire Senator Greg

I understand why we have political parties r116. I think they are often a hindrance and get in the way of actual government.

[quote] He's only 30!

Oooh, that's a very bad sign if he has those views already.

[quote]Several people have been fighting for the civics cause: Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and David Souter, the Hollywood actor Richard Dreyfuss, Condoleezza Rice, the historian David McCollough, just to name a few. There was a bipartisan Senate bill last year sponsored by John Cornyn and Chris Coons on civics education funding. I am excited to see what this leads to."

You don't think it's red flag that he mostly mentions Republicans? He's taking advantage of your naivete and lack of interest in politics because in reality more educated people in things like Civics vote Dem. College educated people are more likely to vote Dem.

I think you disregard the practical reality of our system. The system (including the parties as a political construct) is not necessarily the problem, as we’ve managed to come this far since 1789. The American people need a secular awakening, so to speak…it will come, even if I and most others here in DL won’t be here to see it.

R213^

R123 correction^

He likes Nikki Haley

🫣

[quote]He likes Nikki Haley

Cancel him at once, OP.

R129 Pro-life Haley? Why doesn't your bf want straight people (and raped women) to make the decision themselves on that question? What's with this desire to control other people's medical and lifestyle choices?

[quote] He's taking advantage of your naivete and lack of interest in politics because in reality more educated people in things like Civics vote Dem. College educated people are more likely to vote Dem.

There are a lot of college educated people who don’t accurately civics or the Constitution, especially young people today who get a lot of misinformation for peers and even from professors. For example, college educated people who think the federal government can do whatever it needs to do for the public good have no understanding of enumerated powers.

You could do better, OP. Call me.

Why did you feel the need to make this story up OP? Looking at your previous posts, R47 nailed it. Are all of your posts lies?

Is this whole story some sort of weird trolling attempt to imply there are good Log Cabin Republicans OP? I can answer that: NO. They'll be the first ones shoved in the ovens or sent to the camps if Dump takes over. Anyone labeling themselves as Republican anymore are MAGA trash.

R129 Then he's self-loathing and hates you as well.

"When I was in school you didn’t have sex ed until seventh grade. And even then, your parents had to sign whether you could take the class. That’s a decision for parents to make.”

[quote]Seeing a Guy who is a "Republican"

I bet he cries when he cums.

R139 Rex van de Kamp? lol

OP was just outed as a troll and you’re still engaging with it.

Nikki Haley is pro gay marriage. I don’t want to get into an entire thing about her, but if we were going to have a Republican president, she wouldn’t be marching us off to camps.

This is very slippery r142. Government is a necessary part of any legal gay marriage. This seems more in support of a couple of gay guys living together basically as roommates, with no legal implications.

[quote] “This is what I’ll tell you: People should live the way they want to live. I believe in freedom. I believe in making sure that people can live the way they want to live, and I believe the government needs to stay out of the way.”

[quote]Nikki Haley is pro gay marriage. I don’t want to get into an entire thing about her, but if we were going to have a Republican president, she wouldn’t be marching us off to camps.

Bless your heart for believing anything a Republican says.

To be fair, Nikki Hailey is the best Republican.

Otherwise it would be DeSantis, Ramaswamy, or Trump

Nikki Haley is for Nikki Haley.

There, fixed it for you.

R122 Moderate Judd Gregg, hasn't been a New Hampshire senator for 13 years. When last seen, the 76-year old was lecturing at Dartmouth.

R147 I believe that is who he said he admired.

dump his ass

[quote] if we were going to have a Republican president, she wouldn’t be marching us off to camps

Well, she just kind of clears the bar, then, doesn't she?

I sent him a text asking which politicians he admired. His response:

Judd Gregg

John and Lincoln Chafee

Olympia Snowe

Colin Powell

James Baker

Scott Brown

Condoleezza Rice

Chris Sununu, but said he has been catering too much to the MAGA movement

[quote] Nikki Haley is for Nikki Haley.

More like Nimrata Randhawa is for Nimrata Randhawa.

Mitt Romney too

[quote] "When I was in school you didn’t have sex ed until seventh grade. And even then, your parents had to sign whether you could take the class. That’s a decision for parents to make.”

I agree with this.

[quote]R142: Nikki Haley is pro gay marriage. I don’t want to get into an entire thing about her, but if we were going to have a Republican president, she wouldn’t be marching us off to camps.

There's a lot of things that presidents do not directly determine, like inflation, gas prices, abortion, or gay marriage. When a president is elected, however, it sweeps their entire party into power, and this is what translates into policies on the ground. So, regardless of what Nikki Haley says is her personal opinion of LGBTs, the policies will still be determined by the Republican Party at large. It is against LGBT rights, and if homophobic assholes decide to bring a suit against some aspect of those rights, it can still get enacted at the state or federal level, or get handed off to the theocratic majority in the Supreme Court and passed into law. Nikki Haley's personal tolerance will protect no one.

R104 Why is that a question? OP has upspeak? I bet he does?

[quote]"When I was in school you didn’t have sex ed until seventh grade. And even then, your parents had to sign whether you could take the class. That’s a decision for parents to make.”

[quote]I agree with this.

She's equating "saying gay" in a classroom with "sex ed," dumbass. You agree that kids shouldn't be allowed to mention gay orientation in school, even if they mention their same-sex parents or uncle or whoever? Because whatever weaselly excuses and evasions Republicans make, that's what this law boils down to—which Nikki thinks doesn't go far enough.

John Chafee and Colin Powell are dead, and Lincoln Chafee identified Democrat and Libertarian. Olympia Snowe left office over a decade ago. Your bf might as well say he likes Abraham Lincoln too.

Ninety-three year old Baker endorsed Dump in both elections. Senile?

Has OP died from shame yet?

OP and his boyfriend are at the shrine of William F. Buckley, praying for guidance.

What the fuck is this entire thread about?

Don't engage this obvious - and endlessly rancid - troll.

R158 I'm just being honest with what he said!

Obviously, he has a huge cock. The only reason to stay.

Well, DOES he have a huge cock OP?

Does he read National Review?

So OP is dating a God damned idiot. The only thing more stupid than the repug boyfriend, is idiot OP

R164, OP’s “boyfriend” won’t have sex with him, because they don’t have a commitment. OP respects this.

Not only does OP respect this, R167, he apparently believes it!

[quote] OP and his boyfriend are at the shrine of William F. Buckley, praying for guidance.

Guidance to OP’s boyfriend’s zipper! Apparently neither of them can find it because they’re more interested in discussing politics wrongly.

They’d probably fuck up the fucking as well.

Wasn't this Republican boyfriend saving himself or some such shit? You're gay men, go ahead and fuck. That's what we do.

There’s obviously something wrong if they haven’t fucked yet. Maybe he’s not aware that they’re dating.

R171 Maybe someone hasn't reached the age of consent yet?

r171, right, I'd say walk on by

He said he liked Rex Tillerson!

Has he said that he likes dick yet?

So what attracts you to this guy or is he attracted to you and forcing you to accept how he is?

R176, OP explained at R4 what attracts him to this gentlemanly reactionary. And nothing is forcing OP to accept how the guy is; OP is a shit-stirring troll, as is shown by R47 and elsewhere.

OP, I think LIndsey Graham is more your speed.

OP, did you even kiss or make-out? Surely, you had to feel the outline of his cock, if he was hard.

We kissed last night. It was magically. He is definitely in charge

R180 = OP

OP is he a Republican or a “Republican?”

R182 He is a "Republican," not a Conservative

Op/r32 is fake. No way someone that doesn’t know anything about politics is a real person. It’s too ugly for you? Bitch please!

You’re either a troll or a fucking idiot.

Both, actually, R184

I stayed over at his place last night. By the time I got out of the bathroom, he was making breakfast and listening to Brahms. He even had coffee ready for me.

I want to be his house husband now ;)

Fabulous OP, did you sleep on the couch?

R187 No we slept in the same bed

[quote] No we slept in the same bed

Whore!

R189 I am I guess. But he makes me feel secure and safe

He makes you feel safe now, OP. Just wait until he sends you to one of the camps.

He is going to spend Thanksgiving with his family in New Hampshire. It will just be him and his parents. That is so small and quiet. And sad.

Sounds about right, OP. You want a happy, warm, Thanksgiving filled with friends and family? Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and make that happen for yourself! Your bf’s family has theirs, they are telling you to kindly fuck off.

R193 No we had different plans already

Any other advice?

I think it is clear he is the top in charge

I'm sure leaving a woman's right to vote and slavery to individual states is a great idea too.

R4 "He always breaks things down where I can understand them."

OP you probably do deserve him then if he manipulates you like that, BTW your boyfriend sounds like an idiot.

R197 That is so rude.

Also he has a big cock

Right wing gays are usually well hung. It’s compensation for having to deal with them.

Tell him to stop making up little stories. Then tell him to tell you the same thing.

OP Substitute the word asshole for Republican and what you should do will become clear.