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Soft White Underbelly

These videos are pretty wild and disturbing. Has this been discussed here before?

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by Anonymousreply 92March 18, 2024 5:33 AM



by Anonymousreply 1November 8, 2023 11:40 AM

[quote]Has this been discussed here before?

So many times, OP.

by Anonymousreply 2November 8, 2023 11:45 AM

What’s the story with the photographer who runs it? I came across these videos last night when I could not sleep and now a can’t for the rest of the week.

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by Anonymousreply 3November 8, 2023 11:49 AM

Oops should have done a search.

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by Anonymousreply 4November 8, 2023 11:54 AM

Sugar baby is a thing?

by Anonymousreply 5November 9, 2023 1:21 AM

This new interview is suspect to me. Polish guy who said his family moved to US when he was two years old. If so, why does he have such a strong accent. I've interacted with many Poles in NYC and their accents when speaking English never sounded like this. He sounds to me like has an Israeli (aka Hebrew) accent.

Also, I'm also quite suspicious of any male claiming to be a gigolo exclusively with female clients. I'm not saying it's impossible but very unlikely. Usually they are forced to see male clients too since there aren't enough females out there willing to pay for sex with a male.

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by Anonymousreply 6November 13, 2023 1:25 AM

Sugar Baby is a truly deluded fuck up.

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by Anonymousreply 7November 13, 2023 1:34 AM

I found the SWU videos last year and for a number of days I was just sucked into them.

I eventually came to my senses; realized I was feeding on tragic lives; confessed my sins and gave them up.

by Anonymousreply 8November 13, 2023 1:37 AM

R7 is frightening.

by Anonymousreply 9November 16, 2023 1:45 AM

R6 He came to the states when he was 11. He said his mom took off when he was 2 but he was still in Poland where he was raised by his Baba and aunt.

IMHO he looks Polish, and sounds like a lot of Slavs who move to NYC. He was probably in Greenpoint or other parts of Brooklyn that have many Polish stores and restaurants. He mentions NJ too, where there is a large Pole scene.

by Anonymousreply 10November 16, 2023 2:55 AM

R6 interjects the age old, hotly contested DL topic of male escorts with a strictly female clientele.

by Anonymousreply 11November 16, 2023 4:01 AM

New Soft White Underbelly, FTM sex worker Haskell. Munchkin sounding voice (check), facial hair (check), hypersexuality (check)

"I love to be a slut and be paid for it."

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by Anonymousreply 12November 18, 2023 3:26 PM

Haskell having sex with two cis gender males-

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by Anonymousreply 13November 18, 2023 3:28 PM

Get me a re-write on that dialogue. Oy vey!

by Anonymousreply 14November 18, 2023 3:41 PM

Had a binge phase with this channel but eventually became disgusted with myself. Grief/tragedy/porn/porn.

by Anonymousreply 15November 18, 2023 4:35 PM

This one is scary and depressing. What a waste.

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by Anonymousreply 16November 18, 2023 7:51 PM

True, it’s misery porn. Depressing. One should stay away from it.

by Anonymousreply 17November 18, 2023 7:52 PM

Apparently, attractive people are not psychiatric cases or addicts in that carefully curated world of the maker's asshole.

by Anonymousreply 18November 18, 2023 8:39 PM

I had no idea Satan worship was so prevalent in the sex industry! I wonder why that is??

by Anonymousreply 19November 18, 2023 9:45 PM

Are there any long term health consequences to having anal sex multiple times a day, 5X or more a week, with strangers?

by Anonymousreply 20November 18, 2023 10:12 PM

Yes you gonna gape 2 death

by Anonymousreply 21November 18, 2023 10:17 PM

Other than wet farts now and again…not really.

by Anonymousreply 22November 18, 2023 10:23 PM

R6 Agree that 99% of women don't pay for sex. Perhaps he offers platonic escort services i.e., "a walker" to wealthy older women.

by Anonymousreply 23November 18, 2023 10:34 PM

R23 There are so few women needing this service.

These guys at the least allow men to blow them or do muscle worship as they jack off.

by Anonymousreply 24November 18, 2023 10:56 PM

R20 Ive never heard of any snap consequences except for prolapse but I know a woman who said her female friend was such a whore that she lost complete control of her pelvic muscles. I guess she’s piss herself all the time because she couldn’t hold it. She was in her 40s.

by Anonymousreply 25November 19, 2023 2:07 AM

Lol r25 women don't lose control of their pelvic muscles because of sex. Vaginas are designed for intercourse. Women's pelvic floor muscles may weaken after childbirth, though.

by Anonymousreply 26November 19, 2023 2:13 AM

R25 is retarted

by Anonymousreply 27November 19, 2023 10:57 AM

I love the one featuring the hacker Gummo. He’s a programming genius from a hardcore white trash Florida background who made a fortune in early telecom and then mining bitcoin. Its very moving especially when he talks about his wife, who stuck by him at his lowest point.

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by Anonymousreply 28November 19, 2023 12:34 PM

What the hell is that creepy thing OP posted?

by Anonymousreply 29November 19, 2023 1:24 PM

These are tragic and we should feel empathy for them, but if R7 video subject says “literally” or “obsessed” one more time, I’ll kill it with fire.

by Anonymousreply 30November 22, 2023 11:17 AM

I only watched the one about an incest family and I felt disgusted afterwards. Those people just need help and intervention, not some filmmaker filming it for the Youtube clicks. Depressing.

by Anonymousreply 31November 22, 2023 11:21 AM

This guy films people SO badly. Everyone looks rolled in dirt.

by Anonymousreply 32November 22, 2023 12:46 PM

r23 = Joe Buck

by Anonymousreply 33November 22, 2023 1:05 PM

This is misery porn and exploitative. The guy who produces them is often in Joe Rogan and full of himself.

by Anonymousreply 34November 22, 2023 1:15 PM

The guy who films these videos pays the performers and he is known as a “talking trick”.

by Anonymousreply 35November 22, 2023 3:51 PM

It feels performative and exploitive.

by Anonymousreply 36November 22, 2023 4:15 PM

Well, at least he has a job.

by Anonymousreply 37November 22, 2023 5:46 PM

The creator is a highly accomplished commercial photographer.

It’s interesting that his day job is perfecting merchandise to the utmost degree in slick images, and his personal obsession is these grimy, burn out, broken people.

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by Anonymousreply 38November 22, 2023 6:26 PM

I sometimes wonder if Mark fucks his subjects. Or is he just a ‘talking trick’ as R35 says.

by Anonymousreply 39November 22, 2023 9:07 PM

In memory of Soft White Underbelly interviewees who have passed away

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by Anonymousreply 40November 23, 2023 6:07 PM

Here's gay sex worker Stephan's original video, who according to the video above is now deceased.

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by Anonymousreply 41November 23, 2023 6:48 PM

[quote] This guy films people SO badly. Everyone looks rolled in dirt.

I think he lights them well and it's actually flattering, IMO.

I would bet money that he (Mark) was highly influenced by Avedon's "American West" photos.

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by Anonymousreply 42November 23, 2023 6:54 PM

Just watched the in memoriam video at r40 earlier this morning. Very moving and thought provoking. Should be required viewing

by Anonymousreply 43November 23, 2023 7:00 PM

[quote]R42 I would bet money that he (Mark) was highly influenced by Avedon's "American West" photos.

Yes! Though I was at first thinking it resembled a collection by Mary Ellen Mark.

But you’re right, i was thinking of that 1985 Avedon book.

by Anonymousreply 44November 24, 2023 12:40 AM

Yet another straight guy getting involved in sex with other guys to get drug money. I actually thought this interviewee, Brandon, was gonna reveal he was FTM during this interview but he never did so I guess he really is a biological male.His voice sounding a bit like somebody speaking after sucking in some helium was what threw me off.

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by Anonymousreply 45November 27, 2023 4:03 AM

The upload today, Cameron, is a gay guy. His drag queen persona is "Elleven DiVine". I'm only half way through it but i can already tell he's trouble. Not bad looking as a dude but I feel sorry for anybody befriending him.

He says he didn't realize he was raped by two neighborhood boys while growing up with until speaking with his therapist and discovering he suffers from repressed memory trauma. (Eye roll). He's been to rehab dozens of times including one in Hawaii he went to and he wasn't even living there at the time.

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by Anonymousreply 46November 27, 2023 4:54 AM

I don’t think the guy at R45 is straight.

by Anonymousreply 47November 27, 2023 4:57 AM

R40 So much darkness and each person experiences a different kind. I know the approach is debatable but the universal lesson is a lot of us are living in our own sort of hell.

by Anonymousreply 48November 27, 2023 5:02 AM

Just some light entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 49November 27, 2023 6:47 AM

I spent 15 years in and out of meth addiction, I hustled for a bit and quit the moment I could get a real job in NYC. I met a lot of people like this along the way. Addicts crave something to fill the gaping hole they have inside themselves from rejection, indifference, and not getting enough love or feeling secure as children. You see this again and again in these interviews.

My childhood wasn’t the best, but there were good aspects and I lucked out as a teen with people that guided me along the way. I had as much fun as anyone ever could ever have getting high without dying- and walked right up to the edge of the abyss before I stopped. That was 12 years ago, and I have a life beyond my wildest dreams sober now.

Yet I shudder when people say that being an addict is a “choice”, OR those that have been sober for awhile get smug about it.. Being smug is dangerous.

Sobriety is a carefully calculated prearrangement of conditions, accountability, suggestions and awareness of consequences which “prop” up the choice to stay sober. It’s easier to do inside a fellowship of other addicts striving to as well than alone. If you are an extremely private person, free spirit or an alpha personality, you will have an extremely hard, almost impossible time doing so- because you will eventually need to relinquish control to others, deflate the ego, and lean on them for support, and surrender your will.

You could say it’s their surroundings, poverty, or being outcast, but I would argue it was instead these people died because they absolutely refused to do any of that. RIP

by Anonymousreply 50November 27, 2023 7:30 AM

R50 Who asked you, bitch? Shut up. Who fuckin asked for your story?

by Anonymousreply 51November 27, 2023 7:48 AM

Is r51 drunk?

by Anonymousreply 52November 27, 2023 8:01 AM

R51, bless your heart.

I piped up because I am NO different than any of those portrayed in these videos and have swam in the darkest depths of despair just like them. I once read an interview with a priest that helped addicts and he put it like this-

“The soul needs the struggle than it may grow stronger”.

by Anonymousreply 53November 27, 2023 8:14 AM

Agreed R51!!! Shut up ElderFuck

by Anonymousreply 54November 27, 2023 12:29 PM

I saw the guy who does this channel on joe rogan and he seems really skeevy and not at all that empathetic to me

by Anonymousreply 55November 27, 2023 12:41 PM

ElderSage R50, you hit the nail on the head. Overcoming your pride and seeking help from others is the hardest part.

by Anonymousreply 56November 27, 2023 12:42 PM

How did those people die?

by Anonymousreply 57November 28, 2023 5:17 AM

If he goes on the Joe Rogan show then he's probably an asshole

by Anonymousreply 58November 28, 2023 5:48 AM

r40, geez, Soft White Underbelly has killed more people than Glee and Celebrity Rehab combined

by Anonymousreply 59November 28, 2023 5:50 AM

That r50 r51 exchange cracked me up

by Anonymousreply 60November 28, 2023 6:23 AM

If you go to YouTube search, there are many critical videos about Mark Laita. The comments are filled with his fanboys defending him to the hilt; he has almost a disturbing cult like following. It’s really easy to be lulled into these kinds of videos. They are highly branded in their style and even Mark is branded himself usually wearing a size too small white t-shirt. They aren’t one off documentaries; it’s a never ending income producing misery train under the guise of ‘awareness’. What bothers me most is he has no mental health credentials, but he asks people who are highly ignored and vulnerable to unpack all their emotions and traumas then leaves them high and dry and moves in to the next ‘trick’. It’s a modern voyeuristic form of a side show or how Victorians used to visit mental asylums as entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 61November 28, 2023 7:54 AM

R61 has it.

by Anonymousreply 62November 28, 2023 7:58 AM

He is giving a voice to the voiceless!

by Anonymousreply 63November 29, 2023 7:19 AM

New interview up- Professional Gambler interview, Mikki Mase

This guy has a very interesting perspective on life imho. Do you think he's who he depicts himself to be? Many commenters to this video on youtube don't think so.

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by Anonymousreply 64December 15, 2023 6:53 PM

SWU YouTube posters are usually very supportive, veering into gullible, IMO. So, if they’re calling bullshit, it’s usually pretty blatant.

by Anonymousreply 65December 15, 2023 7:02 PM

I saw the about the antinatalist. She was “interesting” to say the least.

by Anonymousreply 66December 15, 2023 7:10 PM

The more I'm reading about this Mikki Mase interviewee, the scarier it gets.

It seems he has that dark triad personality type-

The Dark Triad refers to three interconnected personality traits – narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy – that are characterized by callous manipulation, selfishness, and ruthlessness. Individuals with dark triad traits are motivated by their own gain with little regard for others.

Also, redditors found out his real name-

Michael David Meiterman

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by Anonymousreply 67December 15, 2023 7:45 PM

R64- I stopped watching after 5 minutes (which I never do on that channel) I just hated this guy the minute he started talking.

by Anonymousreply 68December 15, 2023 7:46 PM

Mikki is FTM trans FYI

by Anonymousreply 69December 15, 2023 7:51 PM

[quote]because you will eventually need to relinquish control to others, deflate the ego, and lean on them for support, and surrender your will.

Speaking as a former addict myself, I just want to jump in here and say this is complete bullshit.

11 years sober here. And I didn't "turn my life over" or "relinquish control" to anybody.

Stop trying to perpetuate the bullshit idea that AA/NA is the only way to get sober. Just because that is the only way that worked for YOU doesn't mean that others cannot get sober powered by their own willpower.

by Anonymousreply 70December 15, 2023 7:56 PM

This is a report of Mikki's (mike's) dad from when he went to Federal Prison. Like father like son.

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by Anonymousreply 71December 15, 2023 8:07 PM

There is one of these kids in every rehab /halfway house/ AA meeting across America. Classic pathological ONE UPPER. Dude takes bits and pieces of everyone else's story and somehow concocts it into his own and whatever you have done hes DONE LIKE 10X that bro. I fucking smoked 50 roxi 30s while 6 girls waited in bedrooms to lick my penar" and then he actually believes it himself which is amazing. This interview should be in college campuses for psychology nationwide.

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by Anonymousreply 72December 15, 2023 8:20 PM

R70 I agree with you, that it's possible to self correct, I did with drinking at 30. I'm also very disciplined, stubborn and willful. Some people do better with the groups, as far as I'm concerned, self improvement is self improvement. If AA helped some, great, it's not for everyone, I'm agnostic so doesn't really have the same wt for me as it does others.

You're very black/white in your post. That all/nothing thinking isn't the healthiest way to navigate the world.

by Anonymousreply 73December 15, 2023 9:10 PM

Exactly, R70! Addiction is a FARCE! Fuck these nucka faggets like Teacake!

by Anonymousreply 74December 15, 2023 9:13 PM

R51 R54 YOU shut the fuck up, you fat lump of shit.

by Anonymousreply 75December 15, 2023 9:16 PM

Today's upload interview had a gay element to it. 26 year old guy from Delaware, Jason, who is a Fentanyl and Crystal Meth addict in LA. When asked how he makes money he says he begs but also says he turns tricks. ZI thought he was another gay for drug money type junkie. But no. Later on, he talks about being gay and being too afraid/ashamed to tell his father.

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by Anonymousreply 76February 27, 2024 1:32 AM

I'm curious, where are these homeless gay for drug money junkies finding their customers/johns. I know the female ones hang out on the street in drug heavy areas like Kensington Ave in North Philly but I have no idea about the male hustlers. No I'm not interested in being a client myself, I'm just curious. Any ideas?

by Anonymousreply 77February 27, 2024 2:08 AM

Sure Jan.

by Anonymousreply 78February 28, 2024 4:18 PM

Another YouTuber named Tyler (seems like an asshole) went over to the Whittakers house in West Virginia. To "investigate" what Mark (SWU creator) is doing with all of the money in the Whittaker GoFundMe. Betty Whittaker, I guess, did not stick up for Mark.

Mark posted this rebuttal. The GFM was set up to help the Ws buy the $200K house next door to their shack. However, the Ws constantly ask Mark for $ (couple thousand, few thousand) here and there for, e.g., a new car b/c they just wrecked the old car. And Mark gives them the money. Hence, there's never enough to buy the house.

Mark is so dumb when it comes to money (maybe he's OK with his personal finances, but he's dumb in how he tries to administer charity), but I believe his story.

The Whittakers are so dumb and poor that you can never teach them about saving money and delayed gratification. (Even if they got that house, I think it would be in a shambles within a short period.)

ANYWAY, Mark said he's done with the Whittakers. He was pissed at Betty for not setting the record straight with Tyler, the other YouTuber. We shall see if Mark is really done with the Whittakers.

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by Anonymousreply 79March 17, 2024 5:48 PM

For those who don't know, the Whittakers are a severely inbred family. Mark posts videos of them on YouTube and has developed a friendly relationship with them and is always giving them money.

by Anonymousreply 80March 17, 2024 5:50 PM

The Whitaker videos were the only ones I cared to watch…I’m just fascinated by the way they live in that squalor and how they communicate. Mark doesn’t seem like a very bright guy, to be honest. His interviewing skills kind of suck. Very repetitive questions, not well organized or professional at all. I think he does mean well, but he seems surprisingly naive for someone who has been at this for so long. He’s both an exploiter and exploitee in a way.

by Anonymousreply 81March 17, 2024 6:05 PM

Yeah, he's not the best interviewer. He does pay people (not sure how much) for being interviewed. Hence, lots of drug addicts.

by Anonymousreply 82March 17, 2024 6:16 PM

His best views are that trans woman Rebecca. Her story is tragic and she will be dead soon. Mark has been helping her for years and she only gets worse. Mark will be devastated when she passes. She is profoundly mentally ill, but Mark has a huge soft spot for her.

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by Anonymousreply 83March 17, 2024 9:46 PM

He. He’s a man. In a wig.

by Anonymousreply 84March 17, 2024 9:51 PM

Mark is awesome. He has a couple million subscribers, is working on the second book. and treats people with respect, so he's alright with me. I saw he is branching out a bit, talking to a divorce lawyer, Navy SEAL, other interesting people.

by Anonymousreply 85March 17, 2024 9:58 PM

85 his conversation with divorce lawyer James Sexton was so interesting that I got Sexton's audiobook (equally interesting). Made me satisfied to NOT be married

by Anonymousreply 86March 17, 2024 10:27 PM

Lisa Rinna called.

by Anonymousreply 87March 17, 2024 10:53 PM

I appreciate his channel. I want to know the intimate details of all kinds of peoples lives. In my life I’m very rarely going to encounter drug addicts and prostitutes and I admit I am curious about their lives. Maybe it’s exploitative but they are getting money and help from him.

by Anonymousreply 88March 18, 2024 2:04 AM

What Mark makes is what I consider the Most High Art. I think there is a sacredness and holiness to seeing the most outcasts of our society. He’s showing us America. Yet you judge him for showing you what is happening in our country? He’s a Studs Terkel with a video camera. Also, Mark’s eye and aesthetics are *impeccable.*

I also think that these people matter, their lives matter, and they deserve to be heard, even if they aren’t sober, because that’s the version of who they are right now. I can totally understand someone not wanting to see the marginalized of our country because it is indeed disturbing. But I still say their lives matter, their stories count too, and for most of them, it’s the only time they’ve ever felt heard or seen, ever. Many of them say the comments really filled them with immense joy and they felt love from people, love as a human being who is suffering. So if you comment, chances are they read it, and you are at least letting them know that they matter, that you’re glad you heard their story.

Life isn’t fair, it isn’t pretty. There are winners and losers. But what Mark hopes for, as does Peter Santanello, is that they can cover creating awareness, then someone else can deal with the solutions. And the solutions are incredibly complex. Underneath homelessness is addiction, under that mental illness, under that incarceration and gangs and pimps and sex work, and under all that is massive childhood trauma. Building tiny houses won’t fix this problem because it’s much much deeper.

Mark isn’t perfect. But I like that he brings the topic back to the same central themes: no role models, no stability, full opportunity to do anything with their lives, etc etc etc. These people are a living billboard for what childhood trauma can do to lives. I hope Mark never stop until someone who works for the government sees it and it motivates them to bring change to our policies.

by Anonymousreply 89March 18, 2024 5:17 AM

I tried to watch a video featuring "Rebecca." I didn't find it compelling.

by Anonymousreply 90March 18, 2024 5:20 AM

They aren’t always compelling r90. But Mark has gone over 4,000, so there is a lot variety.

by Anonymousreply 91March 18, 2024 5:30 AM

R91, yes, I've seen many of his videos. I'm referring only to the Rebecca videos. Mark & his audience seem to find Rebecca compelling and there are multiple videos featuring Rebecca.

by Anonymousreply 92March 18, 2024 5:33 AM
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